Update on Ismail and His Ongoing Treatment

JohhnyLee


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Message Posted:
28/01/2012 11:57

Sorry it's been a while.



Our Interpreter Yasin spoke with Ismail's dad Cemal yesterday. We were hoping 3 weeks ago to have sent Ismail to istanbul for further tests .unfortunately Ismail was unwell and has spent the last 3 weeks in hospital in Hati



Due to his low blood count he has been given 3 units of blood, he now has a virus which could have come from the hospital or from the blood.



They are hoping to get him to either Ankara or Istanbul shortly. We are in a position to finance this and still retain the Bone Marrow fund.



But now there is a problem with travel due to weather, severe snow.



It is a really an awkward time for the family due to Cemal, (Ismail's dad) having to work very very long hours in Cyprus and his wife Fatma and 3 young children being in Hati .



Ismail is one brave little lad who is certainly having more than his fair share of pain and trauma.



Once again thank you to everyone who is supporting Ismail. You have given this family hope.

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 13:29

Lee,



Thanks for the update, it's seems that it will be a long and arduous road for little Ismail. It is a worrying time for all who care about him. Our thoughts are with him and his family.

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 13:49

Please tell me that the Cheshire Home is not still taking a percentage of the money raised for Ismail. I also note that the statement that was going to be made on Wednesday, by Cheshire Home has , has not appeared.

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 13:50

Please tell me that the Cheshire Home is not still taking a percentage of the money raised for Ismail. I also note that the statement that was going to be made on Wednesday, by Cheshire Home has not appeared.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 14:26

Radio Angel, No do not fear. This ceased around Sept. 2010.



I was not as green as I am cabbage looking. But this is what made the two men in question turn on me and do alot of damage to ismail's appeal.



Please note, as I mentioned in another topic. I found most of the people at Chesire Homes to be good people.



But I know for a fact that the commitee were not told the truth about me no longer being involved with them.



I have a newspaper article somewhere stating that the moneys I gave them are LODGED with them for Ismail's new arm.



Maybe they would like to UNLODGE it because we could really use it for his travel etc. as I explained at the time to Richard.



What is the point of me giving you Ismails New Arm Fund. Now he has cancer.



IE. Lets beat the Cancer we can sort the arm later. I thought this made sense.



I am going off topic so lets put it back on, sorry my fault. Any money raised for Ismail goes to Ismail.

EamonnMc


Joined: 18/06/2010
Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 14:39

Lee,

Your integrity is not in question. From what you say, it's a pity the same can't be said about others. Keep up the good work, it's very worthwhile and is paying dividends.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 15:02

Thanks for the update Lee poor little Ismail continues his hard fight.





Keep up all the good work we are behind you all the way.







Maria and Vic.xx

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 16:26

Re Message 5. Do you mean that Cheshire Homes is still holding funds for Ismail, that they are not releasing, even though Ismail is critically ill, and may not even survive to use that arm if he does not get the treatment he needs NOW ? If this is so, who decided this and why ?

philbailey


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Message Posted:
28/01/2012 20:07

Back to the top

RadioAngel


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Message Posted:
28/01/2012 20:44

This silence is could make me think I have gone deaf...

RadioAngel


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Message Posted:
28/01/2012 20:46

I wish you could correct posts .....pardon ?

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 21:05

This poor family is suffering so much. They are, however, very lucky to know that they are not alone, that there are lovely people who care about them and will do their best to alleviate their suffering.



Who cares about an arm when the child is fighting for his life? His poor parents must be so frightened and worried.



I wish we could do more for them.

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 21:16

Hi Lee,

Since we ceased working together on the Ismail project I have not kept fully up to date with your good efforts on his behalf, and as you may have read I am involved in trying to unravel the financial mess left behind in the wake of Festival-11.

If I remember correctly, Richard Currie "franchised" you the name of Cheshire Home for 20% of the moneys raised, this legitimised your fund raising events and so helped both organisations in the end.



Correct me if I am wrong and it was a while ago, but I don't remember any moneys being lodged with Cheshire Home as such, was not the remainder of the fund used outside of the Home's activities in helping Ismail with his fight?



Best Regards

TonyE

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 22:07

Yes Tony you are quite correct and we had no objection whatsoever in paying the 20 %, but it was Richard If I recall who used the phrase lodged.



Yes the rest of Ismails fund was and is used outside C.H. actiivities. (We had no choice it was left to Yasin and myself to deal with the entire situation). With Ismail and his family stranded in Turkey.



I wish you luck with sorting out the current situation. I know from working closely with you, that with your integrity and professionlism you will hopefully be able to get things right. I don't envy you.



Good Luck and Kind Regards Lee.

elkiton



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Posts: 514

Message Posted:
28/01/2012 23:13

Thank you Lee,

You will appreciate that I need a year's franchise on pencil lead and calculator batteries to sort this one !

I think it would perhaps be useful to our viewers to suggest that Cheshire Home did not in any way abandon Ismail. Shall we say that as different skills were required to sort the present problem, it was more a strategic decision that the source of these skills lay elsewhere ?



TonyE

philbailey


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Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 02:14

What charity takes a %



and for what ?

snakes



Joined: 28/10/2008
Posts: 1512

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 10:14

Having been heavily involved with Ismails plight from the start and very touched by the support given by ALL especially Lee and Jan Hickens, and find any kind of financial trading within "Charities" quite alarming ! Do I understand from the last few posts that Johnny Lee was under the impression that the 20% commission taken by "Cheshire Homes" was held (lodged) and is still available ? regards Barry

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 10:25

Is this link with another charity for a percentage a way to avoid the very costly legalities and permissions required here to run a charity without the government taking lots of the funds?



Just asking the question, have no knowledge or motive. I am sure Johnny Lee knows that.



Just do not understand

Marion


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Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 10:45

I am hoping to run an article soon to clarify the Ismael situation and give an update on the Festival 11 - and of course both involve the name of cheshire Home. I honestly believe that Lee did what he thought was best and expedient, and of course the problem (as I see it - and yet to be advised otherwise ) is that what started as a deformity and the need for a prosthesis for Ismail developed into treatment for cancer which is outside the scope of Cheshire Home. So it got complicated from the outset.

But I will try to write a full and fair article because there are so many undercurrent,s accusations, misunderstandings and who knows what else that need to be clarified for the sake of charity itself, and the names of many involved within it.

If anyone has anything to contribute, I would love to hear from you, as I do honestly feel (not being involved directly in any of this, and sohave no biases) that some beautiful clear waters have been turned into bowls of mud in the last year or s

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 10:46

Yes suehowlittle you are spot on. As I said earlier we had no objection to this what so ever.



80 % for Ismail is better than Zero.



But I later learned that as for collecting amongst ouselves IE. you kindly gave us money for a birthday present for Ismail. People sometimes give me money and say put this in Ismail's fund. Perfectly legal.



No different to me saying Hi Sue, heres 50 lira for you (a gift)



But Richard Currie stated in the newspaper, the money was LODGED, this was said to make it sound pretty at the time.



Well in my book if you say something you should adhere to it. (Don't get me wrong we are not after the money back) but I am sick of lies and whitewash.



It would be nice if we could please get this back on track and maybe some more people could send Ismail their blessing.

TopTen


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 1246

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 11:03

You know Lee that Ismail is in all our prayers,and you know that the people who have supported you, and Jan, will continue to do so.What is the latin phrase that in the English language goes something like."Don,t let the b#####ds grind you down" Lee keep doing what your doing, you can be proud of what you and Jan have achieved for this little lad,and his family.



Lizzie & Ken xx

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 11:27

Lee,



I fully endorse the comments made by TopTen.



Keep going and remember you have lots of supports.



Give me a call if we can help.



Perhaps we can organise a Pearl gig in aid of Ismail?



Art.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 12:24

Thanks Top Ten , Magicart and all of the other posts. OK we will keep you posted over the next few weeks, at the moment there is nothing pressing but of course that can change at any time. Thank You.

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 12:31

Hi Tommy Lee. Would you like to do a radio interview at BRT updating us on Ismail progress. ? Also maybe get a few more donations in ? If so please email me at radioangel@hotmail.co.uk

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 14:21

Hello Radio Angel. (Tommy Lee ) that's a new one, wasn't he married to Pamela Anderson !!!!! I should be so lucky.



Yes It would be a pleasure, I will email you in next few day's. Thank You.

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 15:12

Msg 21 - I think it is something along the lines of " per ardua astra, (something else) then illegitima carborundrum. Many moons ago my husband (deceased) was in the airforce and it was his favourite saying.

I know the 'per ardua astra is power to the skies and the rest is self explanatory.



Anyway, off track for which I apologise.



We need to have a huge drive to raise more money for this little boy's assistance. Johnny, what you and Jan have done is marvellous - no-one could have done more. I hope the people on here who read this thread realise that.



Prayers for Ismael are needed but so is hard cash.



I have a rather large collection of books, is there any way that I could auction them myself to raise some dosh? I really do not want to stand at a stall in Lambousa or anywhere else.



Is it possible to auction them on here do you think to raise more money for the fund?

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 15:31

Just enlarging on the above idea, would anyone else be interested to auction anything else off. It might just be a bit of a new idea to raise funds.



Goodness me, when I think about it I do have quite a lot of stuff which could be auctioned to raise money.



Would we need a government licence?

snakes



Joined: 28/10/2008
Posts: 1512

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 18:43

Hello Lee (Tommy) great ! Please ensure Radioangel plays Ismails CD on the program as I note the "Pork Shop" have sold out !!!! They very kindly played a while ago and could help in a small way cos as Tesco says "every little helps" regards Barry

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
29/01/2012 21:07

Yes Barry of course I will. There were a few CDs left at Pork shop I have them now. I always play it when I gig.



Suehowlittle I will contact you this week, yes I am sure we can do something and no we would not need a licence to sell your own private items and thank you very much.

deputydawg


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Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 14:43

Lee, can you please confirm when and where your next gig is ?

JohhnyLee


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Message Posted:
30/01/2012 14:56

deputydawg how lovely to hear from you. Hope you and Jan are well.



I will be at Almond Sports bar this Fri. (Stand By Me ) Ben e. King.

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 15:06

Hi Johhny ( Tommy ! ) Lee re post 28 I would love to play the Ismail CD again on the radio show. I will wait to hear from you.



Fond Regards Pamela......

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 16:39

Look forward to meeting you Pamela. You know what they said about Tommy Lee ??



If you don't I can't tell you on a public forum.

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 17:25

Ha ha ha . I know...he had lots of tattoos ??

EamonnMc


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Message Posted:
30/01/2012 17:41

And Pamela wasn't a real woman...too much silicon between the valleys ! lol.

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
30/01/2012 18:07

Thanks Lee. Reach out, I'll be there. The Four Tops.