Beware of John Hawker

john1234


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 321

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 19:11

Dear All,



Beware of the man who goes by John Hawker, he raises parrots.

He is wanted in the UK

Works illegally here.

He rented a house from me and left me thousands of TL's in bills and unpaid rent and maintenance fees.

Don't do business with hum, be warned.



Feel free to write me for further details!

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 19:13

What crime in the UK?

john1234


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 321

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 19:28

He stole money from his Ex-wife and son, thousands of GBP.



Turns out the man rents places every few months and leaves bills and damage everywhere he goes.

He made quite an impression on me so I never asked to see that the bills have been paid, after all he is not a college student.

I was good to him, made sure he felt at home and used me but this will catch up with him very soon because until I am paid all that he owes me, he won't be able to leave the island and I have plenty of time to wait, I'm not going anywhere.



It is just disgusting to do this especially to a good landlord like me, he even stole my black-out and curtains and left numerous holes in my walls and his parrots left parrot-crap everywhere.

The man must be deranged but even sick and crazy people pay their bills and have some integrity.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 19:32

Does he sell the parrots?

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 21:43

Who's a pretty boy then )

Trina


Joined: 30/01/2012
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 21:53

i know him hes a pervert aswell!!! he speaks to women online!! loads of them. i dont understand he seems a weird one aswell!!



Thanks for the heads up!

MaryB


Joined: 04/01/2012
Posts: 49

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 23:51

What does he look like? And does anyone know where he is currently living?



Mary

AndyR



Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 317

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 00:27

I've never heard of this chap, nor do I know John1234, who started the thread.

It worries me deeply that these kind of comments can be made on a public forum. They may be totally true. Equally, they may be totally false, I have no personal knowledge one way or the other. If true, pursue him legally. If false, it could destroy an innocent persons character.

Surely it would be better to give such warnings in general terms without naming a specific person. Enough detail could be given so that the person is easily identifiable if they try to pull the same stunt again with someone else.

Can I emphasise, I do not know the poster or the person he talks about. My point is simply that a public forum is open to abuse in many ways, character assasination being one of them. This could potentially be a very good example of that.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 00:34

Pursue him legally (msg 8)

have you read the threads on squatters

up to six years to get justice





Again I know neither of these people

and is not a reflection on them

just an observation on the legal system

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 03:42

How can you prevent him leaving the Island until he has discharged his indebtedness to you? I ask because a student called CANSU (first name, as someone has said, enough detail to recognise her if she tries to rent from you, but not enough to identify her, if not) has left hundreds of pounds of debt by not paying electricity, water, maintenance or, of course, rent...with one excuse after another...

john77


Joined: 04/11/2011
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 10:32

john hawker left the island 10 days ago....the gentleman who posted this thread set up a false Facebook account in johns name....

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 10:46

Now i am really confused...John 77, on your profile you say your name is John Hawker, but 'he' left 10 days ago...hmmm, the mind boggles.





DD

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 11:54

He was selling Parrots in January saying he was leaving for the Far East!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 12:09

There is far too much of these type of posts on this forum of late, there are always two sides to a story but we only hear one, truth or not.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 12:12

Never a truer word Hatti

Simbas

Trina


Joined: 30/01/2012
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 12:23

i seen him today going up towards the yesiltepe road (alsancak)......... :S

Trina


Joined: 30/01/2012
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 12:26

delete one of those posts please didnt mean to send 2

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 12:45

DD



Re msg 12



I would assume that John 77 is John Hawker, as looking at his previous posts he was trying to flog a couple of parrots a while ago.

LeYLeY



Joined: 12/09/2010
Posts: 221

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 13:09

lol im confused :S

Trina


Joined: 30/01/2012
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 13:11

is there something wrong with him!???

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 13:26

pieces of eight pieces of eight come to mind

john1234


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 321

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 19:42

John Hawker is John77 and he is a thief and a fraudster. I have all the proof in the world, anyone can ask who they want on the Harmony site in Karsiyaka where John lived in my home for 4 months.



The man is purely a con artist and I unfortunately fell in his trap but again, this is why I have a rental contract and copy of passport, he can't leave the island without settling his debt with me and he will be fined by the police.

I really am not concerned, I just wanted to warn all potential renters or potential people who may want to hire this man.

BEWARE...some people are just simply hollow and rotten inside and out and he has behaved in a horrible and inhumane way.

I did not hack his Facebook account, I have no need, this is another lie of his.

john1234


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 321

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 19:46

Phil, sorry I didn't reply. Yes he sells birds.

Trina, yes I know all about the fact that he is a pervert.

I have evidence of this and it is very sick stuff indeed.

SandersonP


Joined: 29/01/2012
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 22:48

What was he flogging the parrots with?

Lundunsip


Joined: 03/02/2009
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 15:40

People would rather 'name and shame' honest businesses and damage another's livelihood over the most tiny complaint, than post names of scumbag non-paying tenants or nightmare landlords!

john1234


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 321

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 20:37

Honest businessmen?

It is my duty to inform the public of just how dis-honest John Hawker is, if I would have known of him, I would have been a lot better off so how is warning the public "name and shame"?

Get a life,"Lundunsip Lame"...and start making some decent contributions to this site.

Lundunsip


Joined: 03/02/2009
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
02/02/2012 10:10

Read my post again - I was actually supporting you naming this guy. Duh!

AndyR



Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 317

Message Posted:
02/02/2012 11:35

John1234 .....

I have no idea if you're telling the truth or not, just like all the other members of the forum. The only people that know the truth are yourself and the person that you're accusing. However, your posts make it clear that whatever the truth is you're using this forum to try to destroy someones reputation.

Moderators, quoted from rule 3 .....

"do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack"

john1234


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 321

Message Posted:
02/02/2012 17:20

Nice words AndyR, will do...Lundunsip, thanks but it doesn't matter, everything catches up in the end, I just do not want others to be damaged like I have, that is a common human emotion which I do have concern for others as a landlord and as a person..being conned is not much fun but you do live and learn!

mlwt34


Joined: 06/08/2011
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
03/02/2012 15:19

John77 67y/o and ugly parrot man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grahamsteptoe


Joined: 22/10/2010
Posts: 110

Message Posted:
03/02/2012 16:11

he must have had something to do with Polly Peck!!!!!

berilela


Joined: 17/07/2010
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
04/02/2012 09:44

my god j you have had nothing but bad luck with renting that place , i know how you feel my renters left in nov oweing electric and water bills which still not paid so unfair when YOU TRUST someone isnt it

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
04/02/2012 13:25

Just tell the authorities of his criminal record and they will check on his status here.They are at last getting the finger out when it comes to crooks using TRNC as preferred country of choice and getting the message to the EU that crooks no longer welcome.

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
04/02/2012 22:41

Sad to report that I have had three Mainland Turkish separate renters. The first disappeared with 2 x Douvets, A Hoover super de-luxe, owing a months rent and numerous other household items. The second left owing two weeks rent and the third left owing 239Tl electricity (Metered) and one months rent ! As I was only charging them 200 TL rent per month it leaves a nasty taste in the mouth, consequently I will not rent to Mainlanders again, sad to say.



Gerry

claspers


Joined: 07/10/2011
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
21/02/2012 23:54

we have the same issue with our renter. He is on and off the island but now owes over £1000 stirling in rent and used our electric without changing to his name. We have closed the account now so hopefully that will work. His latest was a bounced cheque to the agent (who is also pretty lame). Does anyone know if we can stop him leaving the island if he owes us money and has bounced a cheque? We just want him out. Not that worried about the money tbh but if we can scare him out quickly rather than spend 6 years in court...it would be reassuring. I empathise with John1234!!!

fryingpan


Joined: 10/01/2012
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 00:03

hopefully,he will soon be doing bird !!

fryingpan


Joined: 10/01/2012
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 00:06

if the police need evidence do you think the birds will talk?

astro941


Joined: 22/05/2011
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 04:39

A bond of say 2 or 3 months rent would seem a good idea.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 07:02

I think photocopies of passports might be in order, at least then you will know the renter is who they say they are... The rent for the entire period plus a bond seems better.

Be careful out there!

fryingpan


Joined: 10/01/2012
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 11:06

hi everyone,had a few glasses of wine,apoligies for being light hearted on a serious matter,i hope the owner gets his monies owed and the perpetrator punished

Sandford


Joined: 17/12/2011
Posts: 133

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 13:00

Msg 11 John,



Back in November you were posting as a Russian Administrator looking for work. Even more confusing.....

CuddleKins


Joined: 11/02/2012
Posts: 345

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 13:01

john 77 is john hawker!

Sandford


Joined: 17/12/2011
Posts: 133

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 15:29

A green feathered, Russian speaking, Administrator with a penchant for some on-line dating sites. How marvellous imho!

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 18:36

Regardless of what this guy has or hasn't done.

This is not the first time i have heard about renters leaving the place in a mess with outstanding bills. Its becoming more like the norm here.

What i would suggest is taking a copy of the renters passport. If any damage is done or bills unpaid then collect the proof.

That way if you get a UK address for them when they have left, you can go to county court, i would have thought.

Someone tried to pull a fast one on me a few years back, when i explained i would take him to court in the Uk unless he paid, he soon paid up. Different situ but it worked.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 19:04

sounds like a script from treasure island , lmao .

fryingpan


Joined: 10/01/2012
Posts: 80

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 19:18

blade,i wish i had your faith in the UK county court,ive took a few non payers to court and won......



and to date ive still never received a single penny,the law leans heavilyon the non payers side ive found

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 11:45

Fryingpan,

I think the golden rule is before taking someon to county court make sure you know what they have asset wise. I know what your saying and you can win all you like but if the person has no money or assets its going to be hard getting anything from them.

We have this problem with non payment of sevice charges and with leaseholders it very difficult. I will say normally the threat of court action makes them pay up.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
24/02/2012 00:09

How long does it take in Cyprus

for an eviction ?

Sandford


Joined: 17/12/2011
Posts: 133

Message Posted:
24/02/2012 01:58

I think the time it takes to open the cage................