basic wages for maintainanceJ obs

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 23:19

what would be a reasonable standard rate for doing maintainance e.g painting, decorating, gardening etc daily or hourly rates please

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
30/01/2012 23:23

Depends if you are paying tax

I guess

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 06:24

50-60 tl a day plus your lunch

Agobard


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 09:47

I don't know anybody around the Lapta neck of the woods who will work for 50/60TL a day, lunch or no lunch - this wouldn't even constitute the minimum wage here! The minimum realistically for cleaners, gardeners, general odd jobbing work is 15tl per hour.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 10:25

You obviously dont know the right people to ask



And 30x60=1800

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 10:41

my garden needs maintaining Hippo,when are you available?



I also have lots of friends who would love to employ you at your rates,so you'll be able to work not only 30 days a month but perhaps 24/7!

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 11:49

Not my rates but i can easily put you touch with a gardener who will work for those rates

Jonesy299


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 367

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 11:54

Just use common sense because you will get exactly what you pay for (especially if it involves building maintenance or decorating).



Negotiate a fair price (subjective I'm afraid - I suggest not UK prices but similarily not 3rd world prices either), pay up front for materials and if you are happy with the work pay the balance - if not then you can discuss further.



In my experience it is not simply an hourly rate - decide what you want doing and negotiate a price for the completed job. If you find a worker / tradesman who is good at his job you pay him decently because he will come back and continue to do his best.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 11:57

please do Hippo.



My house is in Lapta,on the outskirts,towards vasillia,last turn on the right (coming from girne) before hos-bes mini market.One before the last house aty the bottom.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 11:57

I think billywiz is after working not some work doing.

Agobard


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 13:32

Message 5: I don't have any problem at all finding good people but I certainly wouldn't expect anybody to work for 50TL a day. No wonder you give them lunch - they can't afford to buy it themselves. My calculation of this is 50TL x 6 days per week, times 4 weeks equals 1200TL if I am not much mistaken which is, as I said, below the minimum wage. I get thoroughly hacked off with Brits here suggesting these kind of 'reasonable wages' when they themselves wouldn't get out of bed for twice that! You'd be very happy to work for 18-21 GBP a day would you Hippo? I very much doubt it.

Trina


Joined: 30/01/2012
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 13:48

50tl is the minimum a day out here! in a market or anywhere!

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 20:51

To All

would 120tl be unreasonable for a good days work. As you keep telling new members to do their homework before making the big move this is what i,m doing, so i won,t be disappointed

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 21:32

Have you done your homework as regards work permits or are you starting up a business?

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 21:55

i know work permits are hard to come by, but the way i understand it you have to get a job and the employer applies for the permit. As for starting a buisness i think there has been so many people ripped off for 1 reason or another it would be hard to start from scratch.I have a place to stay so i,m going to come out for 3mths to see what can be achieved. I have been to TRNC 4 times before but only for a holiday, the last time i was there, there seemed to be quite a lot of work going on,(sorry i,m in construction at the moment but it,s gone tight here,so i thought a change is as good as a rest). Any advise would be appreciated

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 22:11

A little while ago on here it was said work permits were not being given to foreigners as jobs had to be given to TC's maybe this has changed.

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
31/01/2012 23:08

i have seen that as well, but it changes daily i do believe, as everything else so who knows. i have set everything in motion know so i hope its worth a try,my wife works with the old age who need care (social services) do you know of any care homes if that is what they are called in TRNC, as that could be another option.

Manythanks

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 00:02

Msg 17, did your wife/partner

not ask the same question a little while ago?



if so she did not like/believe the replies

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 00:11

one of the supermarket cafe's here was paying one of the girls 30tl a day,she left.

rosylee


Joined: 22/07/2010
Posts: 158

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 11:41

Work permits are issued to foreign workers IF the EMPLOYER applies for them and can justify needing the employee over and above a local national.To work without a permit is ILLEGAL and,if caught ,the penalty is deportation for the employee and 3 months minimum wage fine to the employer(6,500TL).

Those of us working and employing legally find it galling to say the least when illegals will work for pocket money.We have to pay the government taxes month in month out on a fixed charge wether we are earning or not.Almost a year ago I challenged a man offering fly screens at 30% discount through the forum-he turned out to be a con-artist and those taken-in by the offer lost money .A registered company is logged in to the system and you have the right to help from the consumer dept if anything goes wrong.You would not employ a worker in the UK if you had never heard of him OR he was working for peanuts as he is likely to be on dole or a cowboy .Same applies here.

Lundunsip


Joined: 03/02/2009
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 15:29

Gardeners, cleaners & general labourers are usually 100 to 120 TL for a days work.



If anyone has the number for someone who does such work for 50 or 60 TL then post it for crying out loud!

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 21:00

phil no sorry it wasn,t my wife so i can,t reply on what she thought, i would be intrested on what you posted though

cheers

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3533

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 21:08

Msg 22, I did not really reply

but she was asking for building work

and basically got the same replies as you have

people are offering genuine advice

whether you take it is up tp you

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 21:52

rosylee

maybe opening a can of worms

i understand your issues, there are still some honest people about myself included. i find it hard that a person who has the gumtion to go out and seek work and willing to pay his taxes has to open a company at great expense. I know it is not the UK but surely it should be made easier to work thus being able to pay the tax. There are people as you know in the UK that do the same, the only diffrence is they have income support as well we must be mad.



Any views

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 21:54

rosylee

maybe opening a can of worms

i understand your issues, there are still some honest people about myself included. i find it hard that a person who has the gumtion to go out and seek work and willing to pay his taxes has to open a company at great expense. I know it is not the UK but surely it should be made easier to work thus being able to pay the tax. There are people as you know in the UK that do the same, the only diffrence is they have income support as well we must be mad.



Any views

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
01/02/2012 21:56

i think you have mistaken me for a woman that was asking about work for her husband. I think they were from scotland as i am from the other end Wales

rosylee


Joined: 22/07/2010
Posts: 158

Message Posted:
02/02/2012 09:19

Hi billy whizz.Not trying to cause problems ,just stating the TRNC rules on working here and what could happen if they are flaunted.there are so many locals unemployed and we (the registered workers)are paying way over the odds into the system to support the unemployed and pensions.It would help if the past governments had used this money for what it was intended -but thats another story(!)Be very careful if you are doing any sort of construction as this seems to be the area where most illegal workers are caught(usually main-land Turks getting low money from companies who have failed to register them therefore not paying employers liabilities.)Those of us who moved here in the good old days got workers for a day at 20-30 lira per day.those times are gone .the cost of living has gone up.When doing remedial work,we charge £7 per hour per man which is on par with the local going rate-nowhere near the UK hourly rate but OK for the TRNC and better than being unemployed.

billywiz


Joined: 09/01/2012
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
02/02/2012 20:58

rosylee

Thanks for your honest and sensible reply, i have men on site with me at the moment o £7 per hr.

have you got any position going with your company. I,m assuming you have your own company as you wrote about you charging for remedial work

Thanks Again