Why don't you like the French?

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 01:25

Something I could never understand.

Is it an infuriority complex?



So, why don't you?

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 01:29

I would have thought a more pertinent question might be:



"Why don't the French like anyone except the French?"

deputydawg


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 01:32

Because liking them is not compulsary.

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 01:33

Re: Msg 2,



Or rather: " Why don't the English like anyone, even themselves?"

ttoli


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 01:34

Who else is there to blame?, The Dutch?

ttoli


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 01:36

Who else is there to blame?, The Dutch?

;)

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 01:36

Re: Msg 5,



There are always the Germans to blame for everything!

Hippo


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 04:53

You should ask 'why the French dont like us'

Happy Hussar


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 08:11

They are 'surrender monkeys'.

The reason the Champs Elysees in Paris is tree lined is to give some shade to German Troops during their victory parades!

Tony

Hippo


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 08:58

I like individual French I also dislike individual French, I like France as the countryside. I like the French Ski resorts unquestionably the best in the World. I like French food and wine.



But I just despise the politics and in particular that weasel.



Is it just because we burnt Joan of Arc?

martinD41


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 09:50

Clarissa2... I think the answer lies in Mankind's most persistent basic instinct, namely "Tribalism"..

ozkent


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 11:53

The French are basicly very nice people we have many freinds there . There problem is they keep electing complete assholes to run the goverments much like the English.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 12:07

Don't include Parisians in with the rest of France... French country folk a really nice, Parisians have a superiority complex based purely on their being Parisian.

sylvie


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 14:30

last elections : 51 to 49% the country is divided in 2 even more now ! you have idiots everywhere in the world and the first idiot is the one who judge a person because of his or her nationaly !

Honeybee


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 14:40

Message 13 - even french people in other parts of France dont like the Parisians.



This 'why dont English/French like each other is nonsence........... just because you go to Paris and the waiter/waitress is rude, or you ask someone directions and they are rude, doesn't mean all French people are rude. Maybe it would help if people made an effort to try and speak a little French when visiting, rather than expecting them to speak English.

cyprusairsoft



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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 14:49

frogs never know which side to bat for

sylvie


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 19:37

right - make the effort of learn the language is a respect - when i go to uk i don't expect people to speak french - never - but when i am in cyprus most british speak english and they are living here for so many years - i am french - speak english and turkish when it is necessary in cyprus and i am not living there : of course i do not talk about " all the brits" as i said before i do not judge people by the nationality and the colour of the skin ! that's enought for me with that talk anyway -



bonne soirée à vous tous -

Tellis


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 19:53

It is a British thing abroad. If the local people will not speak English - which a lot of the French will not do - then Brits will not like them.

The British must be the most lazy / ignorant people when it comes to learning foreign languages

karakum5c



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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 19:59

god made the channel to keep the french out

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 21:00

It's a French thing and they can't help being assholes.

Take Canada. Official language of Canada is English and French, except in Quebec Province where it's only French. Public sector workers (Inc postmen) all over Canada must speak French as well English, EXCEPT in Quebec where they only have to speak French.

Who let them get away with that????

General Wolff stuffed the frogs at the Heights of Abraham and they are still in Canada calling the shots!

I'd shoot them all with a cannon full of their own shite!

kaiserphil


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 21:11

Sylvie - msg 17 - I think Turkish is more difficult than French. I am perfectly happy to speak French in France, and I took Turkish lessons when in TRNC.

Maybe the problem is twofold - firstly, many of the people the Brits come into contact with speak at least some English, and secondly many of the Brits in TRNC have older brains!

I have been living in Germany for nearly 4 years, and whilst I have always enjoyed learning other languages, I now find it more difficult to learn German.

Congratulations on your English btw, wish my German could match that standard!

martinD41


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 21:20

Msg 13." Parisians have a superiority complex based purely on being Parisian"





As do most "Capital City" dwellers..But Parisians do have a beautiful Capital City to be proud of..

sylvie


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 21:23

trnc : and you are a business man !!!! writting such words is disgraceful -

sylvie


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 21:26

kaiserphil : you have an open mind - and when people are living abroad they must have such a mind ,if not they must go back to their own country !

Ed1957


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 21:45

The question begs the question 'who are we?'

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 22:00

@ msg 15, honeybee: (...) Maybe it would help if people made an effort to try and speak a little French when visiting, rather than expecting them to speak English. (...)



▶ Haha, honeybee, you made me laugh and made my day! Nice one! Most English speaking 'contributors' on this board (mainly British people) can't even spell in their own language..!

A foreign language and Brits..?! No way. Their usual defence is to ridicule foreigners who try their best to speak and write the English language properly.

Tellis


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 22:03

Post 26 - i think that is what I previously said earlier. Brits on the whole are ignorant re foreign languages

Turtle


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 22:04

Because you gave the world Maurice Chevalier, Sacha Distress and the war mongering Napoléon Bonaparte.......

EamonnMc


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 22:39

It's all down to history and colonial rivalries .

Tellis


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Message Posted:
02/02/2012 22:41

Post 29 - is that why the English love the Scots so much then? Or the Welsh, Irish etc.??

newscoop


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 00:09

C'est la guerre!



Vaughan is spot on re Canada.



The channel was put there for a reason



To keep Johnny Foreigner and especially cheese eating surrender monkeys and their brethren out of the UK.



Now if we could get the UK out of the EUSSR?



Wait for it!

EamonnMc


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 00:22

Msg 30 ,



They all spoke with a different language before the English came.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 09:06

What is an Englishman? generally speaking a mix of Norman, Saxon and Angle blood lines..



Saxon/Angle = Northern Germanic



Norman = Northern French ,originally Norsemen/Scandinavian..



So which part of our own heritage do we hate most?.

elko2



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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 09:22

A very enlightening thread

ismet

Giles


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 10:06

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Giles


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 10:08

It's all only light-hearted banter. In the main, most do not care one way or the other. Now as for the Dutch

cyprusairsoft



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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 13:03

lol at vaughans post spot on mate

trouble with french and dutch they cant seem to get past the war years and accept the fact that we helped them out. mind you half the frogs didnt know which side to fight on

english is the main language of the world now so get used to it

dutch stop being so frosty and lighten up a tad

Clarissa2


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Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
03/02/2012 16:15

Well, after reading some of the above posts, it is more or less what I thought: animosity and aggression caused by inferiority.

I see no other explanations.:(

Jeannie


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Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
03/02/2012 16:18

Would that be "inferiority" as opposed to "infuriority" by any chance?

eyebob


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 16:30

To quote, " To be born English is to have won first prize in the lottery of life"

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 16:45

Re: Msg 39,

Yes, it would be, dear.

Read Msg 38, and check you sight.

In Msg1, 'infuriority complex' was tongue-in-cheek, and in a 'modern talk' approximately

means 'infuriatingly superior'.

Sorry for the tedium!

Not the best time of the day for you?

Groucho



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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 16:49

Having an inferiority complex is not the same as being inferior... which the French are!

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 16:58

Re: Msg 40,



I knew that eventually it would come to that!

First prize, indeed!

Jeannie


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Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
03/02/2012 17:01

Message 41. Yes, dear, I assumed in was "tongue in cheek" which is why I didn't comment on it earlier. However, since you amended it to "inferiority" in message 38, I thought I'd mention it.



Certainly, having an inferiority complex is something you'll never be accused of.



There is nothing wrong with my sight, by the way. However, I'd recommend you check your spelling in message 41 (line 3)

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 17:39

Re: Msg 44,



Perils of typing too fast.



Pity that YOUR sight doesn't match your charm!

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
03/02/2012 20:07

Yes, isn't it just.



Pot, kettle and black springs to mind. Dear.

HeAdLeSs


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Message Posted:
04/02/2012 00:40

Hi,



I wasn't reading the whole thread, to be honest. But I would like to give an answer to the main topic question as well. The answer is: I give a shit!



I saw a great picture for this thread in Facebook today. Was showing the Earth from the space (can't find it now, so imagine it ), with the question "Do you see any borders?" ... That's my opinion. I don't care from where someone is... I care who someone is.

Thats my point.

cyprusairsoft



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Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
04/02/2012 12:07

french make great whine



yes i have noticed the way i spell it

girne 29


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Message Posted:
04/02/2012 12:50

Clarissa 2



Or rather: " Why don't the English like anyone, even themselves?"

You raise a good point, though dont think they hate themselves .Think its quite the opposite,the English think they are superior and cant understand when other nations see us as no better no worse than anyone else and get annoyed.





dont agree with you that the English having an inferiority complex is to blame .The Scots and Irish have often been accused of having an inferiority complex and yet dont hate or despise foreigners .



In defense of the English they are not the only ones with such views. The Japanese and Chinese tend to look on us as not being as worthy as themselves ,although they dont hate foreigners as we do ,but rather feel sorry for us.Iam sure there are many more examples in the world similar to English atitudes.

pollymarples


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Message Posted:
04/02/2012 16:10

I like to hear a French person speaking English, in the majority of cases it sounds lovely. French was the only language on offer in my school, that would be in the 'olden days' though. I love France.

joef55


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Posts: 198

Message Posted:
04/02/2012 16:59

The French like the English but not England and the English like France but not the French

martinD41


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Message Posted:
04/02/2012 17:29

Having lived many years on an Island that is more French than English until it was overrun by foreigners .. I have to say Vive La France...

Visitor


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Message Posted:
04/02/2012 17:56

As someone who lives in France, I would say the French are petrified of losing there place in the world as are the Brits. Unlike English, French is in decline as is Gallic cultural dominance in areas like food and fashion. The French pretend to be Europhiles but they do little other then take subsidies and guilt trip the Germans into paying. In the UK the utilities and trains are owned by foreign companies mainly from the EU yet in France these sectors are fiercely protected by the state.



France has amazing healthcare. Wards are becoming a thing of the past, no medicines lottery. But taxes are high and they have the biggest bureaucracy in the world. they have more tax collectors then the US.the French strike abt anything including changing the colour of a bus ticket. It is a nanny state in the truest sense.

Groucho



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Message Posted:
04/02/2012 20:46

pollymarples

Only French? No English?

newscoop


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Message Posted:
04/02/2012 21:08

Girne 29;



"the Scots and Irish don't hate or despise foreigners"



Try walking down Sauchiehall street on a Saturday night with an English accent.



Also stay sitting in your local (in England) Irish centre when they play the Irish anthem.



Martin D41; you conveniently forgot the nice German visitors in the forties. Then again I imagine it was a bit like Vichy.

girne 29


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Message Posted:
04/02/2012 23:45

Newscoop



''Try walking down Sauchiehall street on a Saturday night with an English accent. ''

Have you tried it? My son in law has ,just about every weekend ,and has had no trouble . I would probably have more trouble with my Edinburgh accent.

I have tried working in London though !!



You said to Martin

Martin D41; you conveniently forgot the nice German visitors in the forties. Then again I imagine it was a bit like Vichy.



Your remark just points out what we are talking about. We are talking about French German Dutchmen Indian African etc. but where we think of French German,you think Nazi, Vichy.Its 2012 if you dont like foreigners just say so,dont use 70years ago as an excuse. Not only is the average young french or german not of an age to have any influence on these events ,nether are their parents.



Similarily,I would , resent it if South Africans used the excuse of the deaths of the Boer women and children in that Brit invention- Concentration Camps ,to revile

newscoop


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Message Posted:
05/02/2012 00:18

girne 29;



'John Bull' i'm not but I have little time for those who run down the most tolerant country in Europe and it's people.



As for Sauchie, I have no problems in Dunfermline but the argument stands. Did you have any hassle in London?



I think not.