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why allow the rest of the world to be infected with trnc toxic behavior ? ...... http://northcyprusfreepress.com/2012/02/06/pauline-read-the-north-cyprus-bank-whose-name-i-now-dare-not-mention/



it beggars belief people want the embargoes lifted when the trnc government and courts behave live nepotistic cronies .



Under new proposals to be announced soon all visitors under 60 must ptovide a certificate to show they have been tested negative for hiv and hepatitis c they must also sign an undertaking not to in any homosexual activity failure to do so will result in entry being refused !



Both test must be carried out by trnc state laboratories Prior to departure from the visitors home country.



http://tinyurl.com/7tjs8hw



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Have you signed the e-petions msg 1?



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do they test the anatolian turks also before they enter?



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All visitors or all potential residents?



This will make the daft US Customs and Border Protection Service rules seem sensible.



If it is all "visitors" this will kill any tourist market.



DD



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You only have to look at the filth on the streets around North Cyprus to see how clean the Turks are and what a ridiculous idea testing every foreigner under 60 is, North Cyprus is the laughing stock of the Med. absolutely ridiculous.



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Hang on what is the source of this nonsense reference vistors needing such tests?



Message 1 you are now seriously heading way out of your depth with regards to your rumours.



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Sorry for seeming a little stupid here but ...



"Both test must be carried out by trnc state laboratories Prior to departure from the visitors home country."



If the TRNC isn't recognised anywhere in the world except Turkey, how are you supposed to be able to go to a TRNC state laboratory before you leave home to get these tests done???? Doesn't sound possible to me???



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This is nonsense and scaremongering...must be a daily mail story. lol.



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It is just our Nige being silly again.



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This is now more than Nigel Watson being silly and trying to once again promote his forum, this is now way out of order. Sorry Nige but this time you have gone way too far



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Surely this could not be a hoax or could it ? no one would be so stupid as to insist on health tests for people not at risk or WOULD they ?



NOTHING to do with promoting any forum every thing to do with promoting Equality AND HUMAN RIGHTS.



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Munchkin -

If you don't like the place - stay away.

I like it as it is warts and all.

Leave it alone - it's already been Britishised and a lot of the character of the place has been destroyed over the years.



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msg 12, and this applies to all countries

who sold and built the developments?

the ex-pats ?

who created the demand ?





it is the old chicken n egg



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Message 12 tell that to the people invading the uk.



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There should be mandatory alcohol testing required for people like this Nigel Watson, before they are allowed to write anything on the internet.



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Message 15, that is a bit strong, have you read the rules of the forum



We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.



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Yes dear, I have read the rules and I 'respectfully and thoughtfully' believe that people like the banned Nigel Watson should be tested before being allowed anywhere near a computer with internet access, let alone have their own forum!



However, I believe Nigel Watson is banned and (the original poster is somebody called John), so it's not like I was insulting another member, was it? Nudge nudge wink wink.



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Please don't patronise me my dear!



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There are too many with nasty grudges, let go Lundunsip, nudge nudge wink wink ...



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I think the OP is a lovely intelligent person and he's definitely not Nigel Watson, elbow elbow, mum's the word, say no more, say no more



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Whats that saying ... A wise man????.......



In fact there is thread you could put your quotes on Lundunsip, .. elbow elbow say no more ...



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Errrm, I didn't quote anyone.



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Is the TRNC toxic? Obviously!



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bertieboss Message 12



No surprise the only people happy and content here are the over 60's is it ! given the fact that all under 60's are Toxic public health hazards.



The T.R.N.C is the most institutionally racist 'country' I have ever been to.



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Msg. 24 I'm horribly afraid that I have to agree with you, but it wasn't when we moved here nearly 8 years ago. However, this last 2 years I have encounted horrible racism - mostly I have to say from workers in Government departments and shop assistants. I never used to know what it felt like to be treated as a third class citizen, but I do now and I don't like it. Please don't accuse me of being rude or difficult with people, I try my best to be polite to them and speak basic Turkish when I can, but Government workers in particular seem to becoming worse and worse.



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Message 24 Thankyou for your input to those who choose to take the thread of topic why?



To those who shall not be mentioned JUST WHAT IS YOUR / OBSESSION FASCINATION with " our nige " / Littlenige/Nigel Watson ?( RHETORICAL ) , from what I have seen the guy has his own forum , so what ! the forum gets approximately 1.5 million hits a month, There is little or no need for intervention by mods or admin .



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Lundunsip



Surely your alcohol edict isn't aimed at stopping Hattikins posting. Whatever would she do with her time?



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What has it got to do with you what I do with my time, butt out.



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Yetanother constructive posts turned Toxic on cyp 44 that's me done on here THE LACK OF INTERVENTION BY ADMIN/ MODS to reign in the toxic posters speaks volumes !



TOXIC 44 good night and ta ta



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hattikins



As you have now addressed that last of your 2,716 posts to me you have now made it to do with me.



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Cyprusnow, isn't that called stalking!! making it to do with you!! .... what ever next !!..... why do you need to have a go regarding what any of us do with our time.



Its no business of yours ....



Toxic comes to mind ....



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Whilst most of this is pure rubbish, I take particular offence at msg 5 this is pure racism and such people should be warned prior to a ban



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Whilst most of this is pure rubbish, I take particular offence at msg 5 this is pure racism and such people should be warned prior to a ban



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Headline: "Is the trnc toxic ? Or just institutionally racisT ?" (sic).

▶ No way! And here is the good news I was told by an insider who updated me this afternoon: at the moment (and for quite some time now!) Northern Cyprus: incoming Brits and outgoing Brits - 30 / 70%. So just stay put and life here (in TNRC, not on this board) will be better.

P.S. Lundunsip: Nail on the head (msg 15). Or: Hundred and eightyyyyyy!

P.P.S. Some "members-with-false-ID's" here have to check every day who they were on this board yesterday. How sad when you suffer from schizophrenia...



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Our pets have to come here with certificates saying they are rabies free. I am not so sure if we came here with a similar certificate it would make much odds,we would still need to be tested and why not. After reading here that Hep C can sit dormant for many,many years ! JMHO. And I wish every one effected good health and peace of mind. I found these two links very interesting. What I wonder are your views ?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/hepatitisc1.shtml#hepatitis_c_symptoms



http://www.aidsmap.com/Alcohol/page/1045082/



http://www.aidsmap.com/hiv-basics/Just-diagnosed/page/1412441/



Spider,X



PS. maybe posters need to stop being personal.



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mental illness and the dutch man go hand in hand in hans obsessiveve behavior / stalking / wana be policeman for this forum is so sad .



NAIL ON THE HEAD ........ hmmmm from what i hear nail in the head would be closer to the mark !



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i am just going to say for some people who come on here and start writing racist stuff (hiding )

behind the screen i beg you to come and tell it to my face



spider


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something on this link is giving some interesting new's flash too,



http://www.aidsmap.com/Immigration/cat/1527/







Spider,X



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and as it goes for nigel watson its always writing on cyprus44 and making remarks on facebook wall which i have warned him several times not too so i kicked him out the group and banned him from the group for life as i said before always hiding behind the screen



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and that goes to all the very low percentage of racist peoples remarks everyone needs everyone at one point or another no matter what religion or colour you are i really did not want to get involved in this but enough is enough



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Spider



Re message 35



So why aren't TC's tested as well ?



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Who am I to know if they do not have tests with regards to this kept on the Doctors records. !



What did you think of the link ? interesting reading or not ?







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I do remember reading some statistics in the Cyprus Today some two years ago saying there was one person here in North Cyprus who has HIV.



Maybe some other members may well remember it too.







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Discrimination and racism go hand in hand there’s your answer to this thread.



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I would have thought the answer is to find out if we are well re; HIV and to get the treatment needed.



http://www.aidsmap.com/Testing-and-health-monitoring/cat/1379/



A low CD4 count ?





Spider,X



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http://www.aidsmap.com/CD4-cell-counts/page/1044596/







Spider,X



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we are all racist, its human nature



just some are better at hiding it than others or dont bother to or care to



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Oh dear! Oh dear !,



Whatever happened to the old Cyprus 44 that we all knew and loved.



Nowadays it is just a battle of Egos, from those who should know better.



wynyardman



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Spider



If you want to have a HIV test, please feel free. However, don't forget to inform your insurers that you have done so - as is required by law.



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msgd 48. I agree it's not the same, full of double and treble id's.



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this is the last time i will be posting on cyprus 44 and never again as far as i can see the forum is not being run like a forum should be so could you please remove my details or ban me for life thank you



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Message 49.



Like everyone else I have my blood test its the law here to do so ! I live here and its part of living here. Well that's what I am told.





If you take a look at the links it seems to be the law back home too with regards to immigrants into the Uk. But maybe not ?



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Mess 1 (reporting)



The TRNC is both Toxic and Racist! as you can see from the previous posts! (including your own)!



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TRNCvictim.



Where has my posting become Toxic or Racist ! I thought that mine were of helpful and useful for all who have had blood testing and all who await blood testing for their residency. And for what is the law here.





Spider,X



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Well spider you are certainly on course with "And for what is the law here" how about laughable?



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karakum5c - we are not "all racist by nature" - speak for yourself...



Some - like a poster on this thread who was recently banned for a while for her racist remarks, clearly are xenophobic, others - plenty of others - aren't...it is all down to whether one is an ignoramus or not...as everyone should be judged for what and who they are - unique individuals



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Just because somebody wasn't nice to you, or something happened that made you unhappy while you were in a foreign country, it doesn't make that person a racist, or the whole country institutionally racist.



I've found many of the government 'workers' here to be sour faced overpaid loafters, they are sour faced and unhelpful to the Cypriots too! You get people like this in all countries, but in the UK you have a complaints desk to go and moan about it. In the TRNC there is no complaints desk, so everyone comes on here instead.



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Two prisoners engaging in unnatural acts.



Homes being repossessed to satisfy debts not incurred by the true owners.



Hep C positive results suddenly emerging., be interesting to see what the Turkish labs come up with.



Threats of writs for telling the truth in print.



No of course, not all the TC's are racist, not all are homophobic, not all are vindictive, but unforutnately some with more power than good sense are.



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TRNCvictim.



I do, like many laugh at the constant changing of the law here. and we await any day maybe an eviction notice from our rented home ! .And I too laugh at Forums.



MsG again you show your ignorance in what you know of me without facts. The truth is that I am the least racist person walking this earth. I had a wonderful long relationship with someone from Ghana Oh and yes he was '' Black'' and I also had a relationship with a Black American. Both asked for my hand in marriage.Every summer my husband looks like he is a Turkish Cypriot too. Where is you evidence with regards to a ban ?



I am under 60yrs of age and need to have my blood tested like everyone else too. We all have to do it. It is the law ! We are also personal friends of the one person two years ago who was told they had Hep C.. I do not judge them and supported them all the way.



I stated above please children try not to be so personal in this thread. ! this springs to mind.=Kids.



Spider,X



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http://tech.uk.msn.com/microsoft/how-to-beat-the-cyberbullies





Kids that have not grown up. Double ids and digging at each other to sore points.



Time to grow up also springs to mind. Toxic even.!



Spider.



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pollymarples very well said. i lived in the uk for 15years and yes i had people that were racist to my family and myself and we also got kicked out of our house and my dad got sacked because of his nationality but this does not mean everybody in the uk are racist and ignorant does it? what really gets me is that there are some racist people out there that come to over countries to carry on their racist remarks. İf you move to a different country obviously your going to be surrounded by different nationalities and if you dont like it you could just get a plane ticket out. yes Northern Cyprus has its ups and downs but its still a developing country. İt might not be the best way of dealing with things or the best laws but like in England if you go to Africa you have to get a jab. İ just wish everybody could just get along and this forum just seems like a site where people just attack each other to relieve their daily stress.



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Mess 59.............Have you forgotten your post 55 on this thread I believe what you said was racist & Pat had to delete because of that.



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/80140.asp



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PaulW.



Best wishes to jeannie,and hope to see you again on your next visit over.To spend time with me is the only way to get to know me. Yes I do recall the thread Would you like me to put the record straight.Please email mariavic@live.com



My husband was a wee bit racist when I fist met him ! I soon changed his mind.He witnessed a lot living in London. As for myself working within the care sector my ethnic feelings have always and always will remain the same.Maybe the thread got closed far too soon.JMHO.



Spider,X



Ps. I was sitting here waiting for the thread to come up and the link.



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Ms 62 - exactly Paul W - I didn't mention a name or thread in my msg 56 - only pointed out that both sides of someone's face was showing in this thread - but, clearly recognising herself, having had her memory jogged; methinks she now doth protest too much!!!!



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Me thinks that the two links here are very interesting too. Some may find the video good on the second link.



http://www.adl.org/hate-patrol/internet_hate.asp



http://restructure.wordpress.com/2009/05/08/racist-bigotry-is-predicted-by-a-lack-of-interaction-with-people-of-other-races/



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I also feel that the whole thread is appalling, but that,s just MHO.



I am surprised that it has been allowed to run !





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Sad!



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But are the facts

regarding residency



owning a dog

blood tests

ptp

and the mortages (on bought premises )

and the charities



all true



I will not mention the right to work



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Message 68: "I will not mention the right to work"



You did!........................



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This thread sums up the Brits in North Cyprus. If you don't like it here or feel agrieved why not go back to Old Blighty ?



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Msg 70 , maybe they are waiting for a charity do

to pay their way ?



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RadioAngel (mess 70)



Why are you so racist against the British that live in the TRNC?



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Noboby forced any Brits to live in North Cyprus. Nobody is preventing any of them leaving !



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RadioAngel



" Noboby forced any Brits to live in North Cyprus. Nobody is preventing any of them leaving ! "



Typical racist rant ! try saying that out lound in the uk , it would without doubt land you in court charged with a race hate crime.



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"This thread sums up the Brits in North Cyprus. If you don't like it here or feel agrieved why not go back to Old Blighty ? "



This remark sums up the attitude the 'Brits' are encountering here now. So you want us to remain silent, even when something is being done to us which is blatantly wrong?



"Noboby forced any Brits to live in North Cyprus. Nobody is preventing any of them leaving !"



Nobody did force us to live here, we were most welcomed when we were spending large amounts of money to enable us to live here. Now the attitude seems to be, we've had your money, now we don't want you here, especially coming from the 'powers that be'.



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09/02/2012 08:46

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RadioAngel, It's easy for you to say 'go back to the UK' but we cannot sell our houses and are expected to give them away. Most of us have put our life savings into this country and without selling, cannot just go back. Think of all the builders; supermarkets; restaurants; veterinary surgeries, doctors; etc., etc., that make a good living of us 'Ex Pats', we give far more to this country than we take. As far as the blood testing is concerned, why are the people that frequent the 'Night clubs' not tested on a regular basis, there is more sex sold here than a lot of places, surely it is common sense to see that these places spread sexually transmitted illnesses quicker than an expat wanting to come over for a 'better life'. By the way, I have many Turkish Cypriots friends, both here and in UK and would not be without them but unfortunately, there is good and bad in every walk of life.



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09/02/2012 08:58

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@ msg 73, RadioAngel: (...) Noboby forced any Brits to live in North Cyprus. Nobody is preventing any of them leaving ! (...)



▶ You're on thin ice now... Don't tell the moaning Brits on this board the truth - they don't like that. Well, you have one big advantage: they can't blame you for any Dutch misbehaviour in the past...



@ msg 74, "reporting" ( = Nigel Watson, banned for life on this board C44): (...) Typical racist rant ! try saying that out lound in the uk , it would without doubt land you in court charged with a race hate crime. (...)



▶ YOU'd better be glad then that you are allowed to live HERE, with your ongoing series of insults of the country, the government, hospitals and staff, locals and what have you.



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09/02/2012 09:25

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The Toxic I AM leaving crusader returns ► Again ◄ and gets it wrong AGAIN .



He still behaves like this his his forum ( oops that failed ) or he is a moderator / Forum policeman ( he is neither )



► OCD instead of DC imho ◄ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder



► DutchCrusader = Hans Doeleman left and promised to return many times BUT can not keep his word !



DutchCrusader



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09/02/2012 09:33

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I'm glad to live here, Nigel, and you are not. It's not the only difference between you and me.

Back on topic: "Is the trnc toxic ? Or just institutionally racisT ?" (sic).



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11/02/2012 07:43

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Institutional racism describes any kind of system of inequality based on race. It can occur in institutions such as public government bodies, private business corporations (such as media outlets), and universities (public and private). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism



So lets examine some facts.



Foreigners need to get permission to purchase property in trnc nationals do not.



cont....



reporting


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11/02/2012 07:48

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continued

Foreigners can only have 2or 3 year driving license nationals can have 1 5 or 10 .



Foreigners need to have an annual hep c,tb and hiv test for residency nationals do not.



Foreigners are charged more to enter museums / archeological sites etc .



Foreigners are disadvantaged because all government business and forms are in Turkish ( under the 1960 constitution English is a national language ).



Foreigners human rights are regularly ignored and or violated with little or no recourse.



Foreigners need to pay a deposit for electricity meters trnc nationals do not.



Foreigners are regularly charged more for goods and services in the retail sector.



so examine the Facts then judge and ask if Turkish Cypriots were treated in the UK as Foreigners are here would they complain ? What would their reaction be if told



" Noboby forced any Turkish Cypriots ts to live in the uk Nobody is preventing any of them leaving ! "



yorgozlu



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11/02/2012 07:56

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" Noboby forced any Turkish Cypriots ts to live in the uk Nobody is preventing any of them leaving ! "





I was often reminded of your above comments whilst living in uk as a british citizen.



My question to you regarding your above comment is,how many turkish cypriots living in uk that are NOT british citizens also?and how many brits in trnc whom are trnc citizens?



try getting your facts right before commenting!



yorgozlu



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11/02/2012 08:02

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and..........how about the brits being a TOXIC to the island..............ie.employing illegal immigrants to clean their cheap houses at 50 tl rate a day?



by all means,I do not mean all is fine in trnc,in fact far from it,but you lot aren't exactly angels,are you?



reporting


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11/02/2012 08:09

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yorgozlu good point and another form of discrimination Brits are not allowed to become citizens in trnc !



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11/02/2012 15:02

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Message 83 - As much as that!



yorgozlu



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11/02/2012 15:30

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reporting,everybody is allowed to become trnc citizens providing they meet the crateria.



I was made to sign a form,on my arrival in uk, stating that I was not allowed to claim any benefits without contrubuting to estate,as a british citizen!And the asylum seekers from all over the world,including turkey are at it left right and centre...................







and you have a cheek to use a word....................discrimination!



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11/02/2012 22:25

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RadioAngel;



You may want to update your profile, 21? I've known you for 15 years and i'm pretty sure you weren't 6 at the time.



How's the kids?



PS; don't feed the Dutchman.



erolz


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12/02/2012 09:58

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Reporting msg 81 says "Foreigners are disadvantaged because all government business and forms are in Turkish ( under the 1960 constitution English is a national language ). "



Just for the sake of accuracy, the TRNC does not operate under the 1960's RoC constitution but even if it did English was not a 'national language' under that consitution anyway.



yrret


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12/02/2012 10:09

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And even in the south the official languages are Turkish and Greek, not English.



However, let's not forget that if you go to many developed countries that encourages wealth and commerce from other countries, forms are available in a multitude of languages, and large type, and braille, and some even audio.



How many NC form are available to help the dissabled?



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