Anyone have a reason?

nemo1985


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 16:21

I've noticed that on a lot of the postings on this forum you get a few people who keep going on about work permits etc and blah blah! I'm sure that it's up to the person requiring work to have a permit or kimlik card in place! Why put people down and try act clever by using their job search posts as a way to attack! It's pretty low if you ask me! And to all the job seekers out their, Good Luck!

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 17:12

well said nemo1985 - I agree with everything you say and add my good wishes to everyone who is looking for a job also.



Do you think the attacks are because it is winter and people have less to do?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 18:54

I know many brits living in trnc and working.All above board.Why?Thats what they know.When you work,you pay your contrubutions.Thats how they were back at 'home' and thats how they are here.



I also know many brits whom are working illegaly in trnc.Why?Thats how they were back at 'home',and thats how they are here.



...not to forget to mention the ones employing illegal immigrants for slavery prices................some of them are called 'gardenenrs'.................





you've all had some sort of education so I let you do some maths and work it out yourselves.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 18:58

Msg1, maybe because it is the law?

nemo1985


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:04

And so is it up to some people on Cyprus44 to do try deal with it.... No! It's down to the employer who they employ and down to the employee! I could mention and rant about a lot of illegal stuff going on by posting silly comments on people's topics just because I'm bored but do I? No! Because I have better things to do with my time than worry if people or doing legal or illegal stuff.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:04

msg 4,



Felt like replying to your comments on behalf of the brits but it'd take the topic off. ;)

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:08

msg 5



who do you think employs the person in link below/





http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/85759.asp#reply

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:10

How many ex pats living in the TRNC who are working actually are legal!



My guess is that no more than 60 ex pats actually pay taxes here,maybe i am being generous !



Then of course we have got the charity hangers ons who use a charity as there place of work.



You can all say what you like, it is stealing, nothing less than bloody theft, and I see you all walking around with your heads held high thinking your all high and mighty in your dirty stinking work clothes.



The government should have a real good crack down on all illegal workers, get them off the island I say, bloody thieves.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:16

selpak,allow me to add to your comments,



.....................whilst living in their 'villas' and boasting to their n'friends' in uk about the quality of their lives .......................... ;)

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:26

Yes, you are so very correct I hear some say they are snowed under with work, in the UK the government advertise on TV, shop a Neighbour, they encourage you to call a help line if you think your Neighbour/s are living beyond their means or claiming benefits and working.



We really should all do the right thing and report any illegal workers that we know.



It is the way to start to put the country on the right path ,we must start somewhere, it is no use calling the builders names because your home is not finished when your husband is out working illegal, you should practice what you preach !

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:37

There are so many things that the goverment here could and should clamp down on hard imo. I personaly would like to see them do alot more in terms of ensuring that foreigners with serious criminal convictions are not given citizenship or residency for example. They have tightend up a bit on this front in recent years but could still do a lot more in my view. Not sure I would go as far as saying that they should set up a 'shopping hotline' though.

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:44

I agree with message 11 also.



The shopp a scrounger or benefit fraudster works in the UK,it used to be £50 per head,im sure it could work here but shopp an illegal worker!

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:45

Re: Msg 11,

"...Not sure I would go as far as saying that they should set up a 'shopping hotline' though."



They don't have to, all they have to do is to read this forum.

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:08

there are also many things the goverment could do to allow people who want to work and pay taxes.. the systems a joke.. i would paid tax and be willing to work .ive payed it my whole life,, never claimed benifits even for child allowance that we were en titled to in the uk.. came here 6 years ago with the promise of encouragment from the goverment on different websites saying how easy it will be to open a buisness here.. ive tried on 6 different ocassions only to be told we wont issue a permit because were trying to encourage locals to work.feckin joke..the locals want a get rich quick scheme and arnt prepared to graft for theyre money.. half the shops and buisness here fold because the goverment give the locals a permit and then hammer the shit out of them in taxes..or the landlord doubles his rent charges overnight.. no itelligence for the long game.. they see a shop doing well here and b4 you know it theres 10 other shops selling the same stuff .. back to school for the lot of you.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:10

you gotta laugh , people have been done out of life savings , hundreds await PTP, god knows how many wait for title deeds , and the small minded want to set up a SHOP THY NEIGHBOUR , what happened to live and let live ?

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:17

they forget..rowlo..half the tc,s in the uk are or have claimed benifit at one time or another.. and dont they just love the free health care with there easy get uk passport.. i see yorgi bears selling up..lifes tough here..back to blighty and the dole..

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:25

ah the promised land awaits racoonchic ,

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:26

you see rowlo,thats where you go wrong.when I read /hear about those thast have been robbed off their life savings,I want to do my upmost and try to help them,but when I see all the ones working illegaly and robbing off the estate I take the attitude of "feck'em",they deserve all they get.



as for msg 14;6 years on the island,umpteen attemps to set up a company and no success..............and has a cheek to tell us 'back to school'............... ;)

I'll gladly show you the way to set one up,not to mention the ones for sale on 44.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:29

"yorgi bear" is back on the island...................FOR GOOD.



2 MONTHS IN SHITTY IRLEAND WAS MORE THEN ENOUGH TO WORK OUT WHERE THE BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IS.

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:32

how ? are you going to be my trustworthy tc partner or are you going to advance me a gauranteed return on my 100,000 dollar deposit.. answers on a postcard from the uk please..

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:34

feck me..i knew id seen you b4.. is it gerry adams.omg

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:40

your silly/know nothing are a proff of that you've not once tried to go legal/set up company.



YOU do NOT need a tc partner...........FACT



$100.000 are claimed back as soon as the company is set up (to thr point that you can borrow it for a little while from some one else)....................FACT



15000 liras is all the government asks from you to keep in your OWN account (earning you interest) for the first 2 years.(in case you do a RUNNER whuilst in debt to government)





with all YOUR education,I let YOU to decide who needs to go back to school. ;)

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:43

look at me,I'm shakiiiiiiiiiiing ;)





was that the next line? ;)

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:48

ok so lend me the money..big boy..answer is no................fact.. sorry i was one of the unfortunate ones who helped my builder when he was out of cash..fact still waitin for electric after 6 years . fact.being screwed by the land owner and his mate. fact.the advocat saying give me another 2 grand and il help you take him to court . fact.. yep.this is definately a better place to live.. your a muppet..FACT

Ed1957


Joined: 03/09/2011
Posts: 377

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 20:54

I have reason

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 21:01

hey Ed do you have the reason..or is it a well kept secret..x

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 21:02

Would you really like to be legal racoonchic?

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 21:09

selpak;



your message re charities has to be a wind up!



I'm no do gooder and I take the view that the charity fanatics are playing into the governments hands by doing what they should be doing but, fair play to them they believe in what they do and most of them get sweet fa for doing it.

Ed1957


Joined: 03/09/2011
Posts: 377

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 21:14

I have a reason why I am not telling anyone the reason

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 21:20

Message 28



How do you know?



And some get a hell of a lot !

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 22:33

yes selpak i would..especially in the government sector. that way i could work for 15 years and spend the rest of my life talking about it outside a coffee shop ..looking forward to a big fat government pension... please mister turkey send us more money..pretty please .. we spent the last cash advance in kombos..

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 22:46

selpak;



Any names and examples?

nemo1985


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 22:53

I think you will find that a lot of the illegal workers are probably more Turks and pakistanis whom have taken over the trnc. The Brits and tc's are countable and you will find that the businesses that are running are also Turks!

As for problems with builders and property extra that's just the way things are, u need to be careful, if you were careful in the first place you wouldn't have been left in situations you can't get out of.

I myself have several properties in trnc and uk with no problems and deeds! I've used builders and had no problems! But I choose my steps.

Also would like to add that living here was the best move I ever made as its much better than the uk unhappy people should leave and go home! ;)

suehowlittle


Joined: 31/10/2010
Posts: 1202

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 23:06

So much bitterness, and I suspect, that if things get even tougher here for the indigenous people then there will be even more.



I felt a little bitter also when the government encouraged us to come by stating that they would allow all our possessions to come into the country with us tax free (WITHDRAWN)



Also that we could bring one UK car with us tax free (WITHDRAWN)



We worked hard all our lives and decided that we would come to this beautiful place to retire and slow down the fast pace of living we were so used to. We, despite the stresses of lying lawyers, corrupt builders and all the rest of it are determined to stay and enjoy it.



What I never thought we would have to face is the bitterness and the feeling that we are not wanted here.



Why is that? Is it because Cyprus has attracted so many unsavoury characters or have we yabanci spoiled the life of the Cypriots in some way?



Some of us are just ordinary people who want a quiet and sensible lifestyle in the

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 23:08

message 32



wait until the 14th ;)

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 23:35

Message 33: "Also would like to add that living here was the best move I ever made as its much better than the uk unhappy people should leave and go home! ;)"



Most of us will be glad that you have several properties hassle free and with deeds good for you, however your last statement is a little worrying.

Unhappy people should leave and go home? Home? there is no home, not here in the UK and not there in NC, unhappy people have had their life saving ripped from them by scammers, albeit by British or CT's, one way or another they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Have a little sympathy please.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 23:37

............ Maybe they have to work just to live which was probably never on their agenda when they moved to 'Paradise'?

nemo1985


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 23:41

I don't think that us Brits are not wanted here, I know quite a few tc's here and I know that they are happy with the Brits being here its more the Turks they are not happy with but the government supports the Turks more than they do the locals and Brits, therefore the locals and Brits are treated differently!



Also in my opinion the expats have high expectations (including me!) for example you wouldn't get a builder in the uk that would take your money And disappear so to us maybe it's that we compare too much, coming from a fast paced well organised country to a rather slow paced unorganised one could be the reason.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 23:47

maybe if this forum was used correctly all the scammers could be identified , but most brits cant see further than the end of theyre nose , shop thy neighbour and all that ?

nemo1985


Joined: 09/07/2011
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 23:49

Message 36. Sympathy yes but it gets to a point where in every discussion the problems arise and sometimes makes me feel like people may have regrets in which case I said if unhappy go home! Yes ok maybe there may be no home but It was not pointed at one person and I'm sure a few people have thought the same! I do feel sorry for those scammed and I do really hope that things get sorted for them one way or another

PhilUK


Joined: 31/03/2010
Posts: 236

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 00:49

re msg 1- what does "anyone has a reason" have to do with kimlik cards-once again I have been lured into an ambiguous post title.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 02:02

Suehowlittle mess 34

''What I never thought we would have to face is the bitterness and the feeling that we are not wanted here.

Why is that?

Is it because Cyprus has attracted so many unsavoury characters or have we yabanci spoiled the life of the Cypriots in some way''





What ,you mean the Cypriots allowed this island to become a safe haven for fugitives from justice. Just looked at the money and didnt bother where it came from. Used a lot of that dodgy money to finance a unregulated corrupt,property industry. So who invited all the ''unsavoury characters'' in the first place?.The Cypriots! So they can forget about blaming us .



As for not being wanted here .

2 reasons.

1/ Most countries resent the influx of foreigners who have better standard of living than the local people,

2/ The locals know the majority came here because of cheap property,available only because of a Cypriot tragedy, and only then waxed lyrical about the wonderfull place and its people.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 02:57

Msg 37 Brit you areo right so right. many tried and and so many failed. We did our best

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 07:46

Britvic-re-37



Your comments are very much understood and appriciated.However,as much as one has to do what one has to do,most brits have only themselves to blame for the situatuion they are in,and most importantly,they dont know how to get on with it,hence the reason of my comment of 'this is how they were back at home,this is how they are here.'.................bitter sorrows is the only thing that springs to mind!



in any case,I'm back on the island,my wife didnt like her birth place after being conned left right and centre in 2.5 months,so we came back.

Hope you are keeping well.

ataturk


Joined: 09/09/2008
Posts: 712

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 11:11

Yorgozlu, I think a lot more cypriot companies and turkish companies employ workers especially in the construction industry where they dont pay the taxes for the workers at all. I know for a fact the TED school in Lefkosia which is being built now the company responsible is employing lots of mainland workers without work permists and they are a big company. I would hazard a guess that the country loses more money from this than the brits who are working cash in hand. The set up in the UK is a lot different from the set up here in the way that it is easier to start a business and pay tax and be legit. Also lets not forget how many of us would gladly employ the Polish builder to come and do our building work for us and not enquire whether or not he has a work permit or is paying tax or not.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 15:17

ataturk;I,as a cypriot am alraedy aware of the points you've made.



The difference in brits is 'why' they are here and 'what' they are doing.As much as I am aginst the 'turks' coming over and working illegaly (one way or another),I wouldn't like to see them living in an unacceptable conditions and therefore I try to help them as much as I can,because I beleive we are all equal.And as far as 'employing polish' in uk illegaly is concerned,I don't think one can compare thatr,judging by the size and population of the 2 countries.



ie.with a 60+ million population in uk,first uk needs to have about around 200-250 milloin immigrants,and only then we can start to compare.But somehow I dont think you'd need to compare since you'd know how it feels.



ie.yesterday I offered someone (brit) partnership.

2 reasons

1-to provide myself a work

2-help him go legal.

the answer was,NO THANK YOU. ;)