Rangers FC Takes Step To Administration

selpak


Joined: 15/12/2011
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 18:37

I'm sure there will be some very poorly people shortly !



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rangers-fc-takes-step-administration-153225539.html

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 18:49

the column states that rangers have won a record league titles,bull shit,if they had payed thier taxes like every other club they would not have had the money to buy players during there "fraudelant" 9-in - a -row ie butcher, gascoine,stevens, laudrup,woods,walters etc etc,this tax demand stems from this "era"were instea,d of paying tax they bought the england football team,they were caught and now have to pay the penalty,



time to pay the piper,if this was happening to the east end of glasgow,i assure you,the streets of Goven would be partying for months Hail Hail

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:01

I normally watch Sky News for 20 minutes each day as it ust keeps repeating the stories. Today I will watch it all night because "I just can't get enough"....no sympathy...cheating their way to success has finally caught up with them and we will manage to move on without them. Hopefully they will go bust and re emerge in Div 3 and there will be a chance to draw them in the cup....stuff them.....They took great delight when Celtic were close to bankrupcy, but the fans bailed us out with Wee Fergus leading the way. They had the chance to do the same and failed miserably...........let them die

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:02

were going to have a party when the rangers die

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:05

Getting rid of one of the "Old Firm" will turn a boring two horse race into a farce of a walk over!



The SPL is about as interesting as piles.

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:08

yes Giles ,2 horse ,just like the premiership

Giles


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Posts: 256

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:10

Not the same two horses year after year after year though!!

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:12

St Mirren, Dundee Utd, Kilmarnock to name a few have excellent young players playing some good stuff. Watched both halves of the Old Firm playing them and enjoyed it immensely.

It will level out eventually. I would rather play against teams who are playing on a level playing field than to trail a team who cheats their way to success.

Rangers will re emerge and will always be a part of Scottish football (with a new name possibly)

Too much money being made to let them die completely.

In the meantime......I'm loving the extended pantomime season

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:15

Engerland,spain,germany,portugal,italy,all 2-4 horse races,the old firm have the most money/support hence the two horse race,just like the other countrys ive just mentiond,its about monies ,not football

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:15

The world pays Billions to watch the Premiership, at the last count the SPL earned 78p. Says it all really.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 19:16

mess 2 cant agree more . they were allways living on the never never . what makes me sick is all the supporters paying hard earned cash to watch them had to pay their tax



i hope HMRC take them to the cleaners



andy

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 21:13

So as I understand this thread what people want is for Celtic to win the league every year into perpetuity?



Before you start I'm the son of Celtic fans but surely a two horse race is better than a one horse one?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 21:23

newscoop what are you saying ? let them off with the £50 million owed to HRMC and let them start again just so scotland can have two micky mouse teams and not on ?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 21:33

relax , bead rattlers everywhere , its not gonna happen , go to bed now sleep well ,

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 22:16

What about this,... a billionaire say Middle East or Russian buy Rangers FC and clear its debts.







Then apply to join the Football League,....... how good would that be

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 22:38

turtle thats been mooted for years but it wont ever happen . what could happen is some euro super league that allows a scottish team who are champs to play in it but thats as near as they could get to playing with the big boys in a big league.



andy

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 22:43

dont forget , when the old firm played the so called big boys of english football , they always beat them .

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
13/02/2012 22:51

andy f;



they will end up doing a 'Bates' and screwing the taxman.



What I'm saying is do people really want just one team to win the league every year? simple.



What the blue noses did in Murray's days was financial doping, no different in reality to what the Glazers are doing at United. (Spending money they haven't got)

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 1420

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 07:58

Jelly and Icecream!!!!



stevie-d

Castlemilk


Joined: 12/03/2009
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 09:29

Having been a fan for 58 years it is a sad day for me that this has come about,yes we should all pay the taxes that are due and so should all the others who have used this loop hole for payments.

It is not only the club and fans who lose out what about all the backroom workers who will lose there jobs through this shambles.

We all need to know the truth about the take over and get some ans.

And as for so called football fans taking enjoyment from this you should be ashamed as a Glasgow boy I would always want Rangers and Celtic to keep playing and not for one of them to go down the pan.

The football evil is TV money as it has made the game unfair and impossible for most teams to compete at the levels they had in the past IE.when you get beat in a european game thats it you are out of the cup you dont get a second chance or the case of losing 2/3 games and you can still win the cup whats that all about.



Stevie C.

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 10:09

Gazza has just turned up at Ibrox with a bucket of chicken, a six pack and a fishing rod to sort things out

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 10:37

jelly and ice cream

augustal


Joined: 11/08/2011
Posts: 236

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 12:16

They wont go bankrupt they are an institution..... , it will all end up that the company will be liquidated, the TAX man will get part settlement full & Final,,,, the club will go from strengh to strengh...... or they will proceed with a company creditors deal..... a VA ..... voluntary arrangment,,,,, it happends every day with very large companies bigger than this...... and you dont even here of it,,, and no i`m not scottish nor a Rangers fan,,,, I`m a Unt fan...

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 13:31

And I am still saying nothing YET.



Chris

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 15:49

"the cash ma father owes"

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 17:24

So now it's official. Administration confirmed.



10 points deducted. .......not that we needed the help, but I'm loving it just the same.



I just can't get enough.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 17:31

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17026172

Stonker


Joined: 15/10/2011
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 17:40

just remember charlie and tim don,t kick too hard on the way up the ladder you could be on your way back down it sooner than you think and getting kicked even harder enjoy while it lasts THE BEARS WILL SURVIVE COME ON THE BEARS

adkdundee


Joined: 01/08/2010
Posts: 86

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 17:57

Rangers deserve all they get but I can't see that it helps the game in Scotland. It's bad enough as it is but Celtic running away with the title after half a dozen games makes the SPL obsolete in terms of entertainment. Here's an idea... All you mickey mouse Old Firm supporters who live in Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh etc start to follow your local teams. Then we'll see a more competitive league.



DUFC FOR THE CUP!!!

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 18:13

Got to agree with you there Arthur.......except for the DUFC for the cup part...........Treble still on



I am very much aware that we need Rangers & Celtic to make a marketable product, but just can't help myself from enjoying their current situation



I take your point message 28, hence the banter of kicking Rangers on their way down, as they gave us pelters when it was our turn.



Celtic got ZERO sympathy from anyone when we were minutes from going bust.



Daily Record with cracked club crest on the front page, Sunday Mail with a hearse outside Celtic Park with RIP Celtic as the headlines.



I only want Rangers to be punished for the cheating, I would take no pleasure in them going out of business, which in reality will NEVER happen. No football fan would wish for that.

adkdundee


Joined: 01/08/2010
Posts: 86

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 18:18

Thought that would get you out your bed Charlie. As I said, no sympathy and they're due us 100k for whipping them last week!!!



The double for the Tic SC for the terrors. You know it makes sense!!!

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 18:18

just read the link from bbc news. i cant believe there is a way for rangers to close down and restart leaving the inland revenue with nothing ? if they get away with this why should any club worry about debt ?



i thought HMRC was the most powerfull government body we have ?



andy

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 19:05

attention agent whyte ! please return to the vatican ,mission accomplished

HotHippo


Joined: 25/03/2010
Posts: 402

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 20:20

The only surprise about all of this, is the fact that 90% of Rangers fans are surprised by the outcome, which is all the proof that was needed of the "We arra Peepil" / "Too big a Scottish Institution for this to happen" attitude that has brought them to the inevitable result of years of over-spending, and tax-dodging. Not even the corrupt SFA and the MIB will save them now.

Having said that, I genuinely feel for the many Rangers supporters, who are real football fans, and who love their club every bit as much as I love mine.

There are plenty of Rangers fans out here in Baku who give a lot of time and money to promoting football to the local kids, and who raise piles of cash for other charities too.

But I'm not one who will mourn the death of the "Institution", should it come, and of all that was done under its name.

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 20:25

Message 32 .. i thought HMRC was the most powerfull government body we have ?



Wrong Andy .. It's the VAT man

HotHippo


Joined: 25/03/2010
Posts: 402

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 20:27

Hail, Hail, the VAT Mhan!

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 21:02

its a no brainer really , well for us rangers supporters it is ,



loose 10 points , or loose £75m and be insolvent ,



you dont get £7.5m per point in the champions league , or any league in the world ,



10 point deduction is a master stroke ,



we are ,and will always be ,



THE FAMOUS GLASGOW RANGERS .

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 21:13

thanks harry point taken .



rangers fans should be venting their venom on previous owner david murrey as according to report on bbc he presided over a company reporting annual losses of over 30 million quid for several seasons in a row before he new the end game was up and sold it to a dodgy as f--k craig whyte for a pound !



andy

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 21:18

rowlo;



you are some sort of blue nosed twunt!



By the way, I told ayebrox this would happen five months ago, he didn't believe me and going by your earlier post you wouldn't have either.



Do not mess with the inland revenue.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 21:51

newspoop , msg39 the inland revenue will now get maybe a penny in the pound , but rangers will survive .

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 22:12

Only a deluded Rangers supporter would be happy to make out that administration is a master stroke.



Pay your debts and stop cheating.



Tainted titles and tainted future.



There will always be a rangers (no capital r in rangers as they have no capital), they will survive, I agree, but no dignity in cheating their way to success and then running away from the debts incurred by trying to avoid paying up all they owe. it's the rangers way



You certainly are the peepil.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 22:29

maybe your priests will learn a thing or 2 eh ?

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 22:33

not my priests, I don't follow any faith. Don't see the connection anyway



I'll just enjoy the panto while it lasts in the meantime.



Off for some jelly & ice cream & watch Sky News (again)



I just can't get enough.

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 22:51

Message 38,

it's not all Murrays fault, but he is getting off lightly

Be prepared to watch this greedy wee guy Whyte and his pals from London strip the club and it's assets. You don't mess with paye and ni contributions for the last year. The taxman will not accept a deal,the gers are finished

Greed ....the wee man has stole about £38million in a year 24mill for season books 9 mill from paye and ni contributions and the money for jelavic. Don't blame it all on Murray,.... just most of it

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/02/2012 23:00

well if they do get away with it and the inland revenue only get a 1pence in the pound i say our system is mad !



you look at portsmouth thats been going on yonks too and the revenue wanted them wound up four years ago and they are still trading and playing.



andy

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 01:03

Howz this for an idea.....



Rangers amalgamate with Celtic?....Celtgers





Might be one or two arguments on what colour kit to wear !!



Wadda ya think ?

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 09:53

Great idea,.......just like greekprus

timaloy


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Message Posted:
15/02/2012 10:06

Follow !Follow ! we will follow.............hearts, airdrie,portsmouth,third lanark,luton

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 11:57

We shall not be moved.....by the Hearts, the Hibs ....or St Johnstone !!!!!!



Need to get a new songbook

Checkmate


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 12:39

Isn't it strange that the vast majority of comments on this subject seem to come from Celtic supporters???



Both Celtic and Rangers are 2 of the huge clubs steeped in lots of tradition, but if people stop and think about it, would be really nothing without each other.



When you look at the debt great teams such as Manchester United etc are in it seems unbelievable really.



As for the comment about "Priests" and them being yours. Recently I attended a game at Celtic Park where there were 4 rows of Priests sat together in complimentary seats??



And we all know the scandal in the past regarding Celtic Boys Club!!!!



Some people would suggest that this is and was a far more heinous crime than getting oneself in debt???



Glasgow Rangers Football Club will be here tomorrow, next week, next month and next year.



Celtic supporters are entitled to gloat, who can blame them................and they could even take advantage of such times and notch a few League titles to their name

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 13:00

Follow !Follow ! we will follow.............hearts, airdrie,portsmouth,third lanark,luton



Blackburn Rovers next

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 15:55

Some might say that, since Celtic very nearly went out of existence in the 1990's, we should feel some sympathy for what Rangers are now going through. Yes some might say that, but I don't.



You see, I am old enough to remember the early/mid 1990's when Celtic were at death's door. And I do not recall any sympathy being handed out towards Celtic by Rangers fans. On the contrary, they wanted our club to die. Well........karma is a bitch as they say.



David Murray tried to bury us when we were down. Rangers were so far on top of Celtic at that time and they just kept piling on the misery. They wanted to kill us off once and for all. Well guess what, that's exactly what I hope we do to them now. They tried to finish us off so I think it's only fair that we should return the favour. Or at least sit back and have a bloody good laugh while the taxman does the job for us.



Isn't the irony of the club who sing so proudly about the Crown, being killed off by the Crown, just delicious? Yo

Checkmate


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 16:19

Glasgow Rangers Tax Fiddlers.



Glasgow Celtic Kiddie Fiddlers.



Get of your not so high horse!!!!

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 16:25

I have never known a group of people to be so obsessed with child abuse as Rangers supporters. Mention Celtic to them and within no time the ugly subject of paedophilia will raise it's head. It's almost as though they can't help themselves.



Everybody knows that child abuse is an abhorrent thing. Nobody in their right mind could, or would, say otherwise. The people who indulge in it either need punished or need help(that's a discussion for another thread). But what the Rangers fans do with the subject of child abuse, troubles me almost as much as the crime itself.

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 16:26

They demean the subject by using it as a points scoring tool in a football rivalry. To me that is utterly despicable. The Rangers fans that persistently go on about this subject do not care for the children who were abused. Don't ever be fooled into thinking that they do. All they are doing is raising the subject to imply that Celtic fans and Catholics are all complicit in it. It's beneath contempt.



The way the Rangers fans have also tried to drag Jock Stein's name through the mud by linking him to child abuse is also utterly appalling.



So should I feel sympathy for the kind of people who mock a very serious subject in this sick, bitter, twisted way? I think not. I just hope none of their children are ever unfortunate enough to be abused. I am sure they would not treat the subject so frivolously if that were to happen.

Checkmate


Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 140

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 17:04

We all know its wrong to commit such heinous crimes. Fact, they did happen. Fact, they did try to hide it!!!



..........But like I said get off your high horse.



Celtic should have been running riot in terms of League titles during the past 4 years, but the not so great team blew and bottled it.



it was a conspiracy etc etc.



Rangers Football Club will meet these troubled times head on along, with hundreds and thousands of there supporters.



In the meanwhile enjoy..........as Arnie says.......We Will Be Back!!!



This will be last post on this matter.



Have a good one Timaloy.........we always welcome the chase!!!

Castlemilk


Joined: 12/03/2009
Posts: 174

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 17:10

In the name of the we man boys lets stop all this bollocks thats going on with these tit for tat lines and get on with life.



Stevie C.

timaloy


Joined: 30/06/2011
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
15/02/2012 17:24

correct castlemilk , goodnight from easterhouse

Stonker


Joined: 15/10/2011
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
16/02/2012 11:48

msge 46 tiggy celtgers or rangtic if you want to know what the strip would look like ask wee jimmy the hibby he,s already got one

Stonker


Joined: 15/10/2011
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
16/02/2012 11:49

msge 46 tiggy celtgers or rangtic if you want to know what the strip would look like ask wee jimmy the hibby he,s already got one

rembrandt


Joined: 21/08/2011
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
16/02/2012 14:41

God save the Queen

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
16/02/2012 18:25

Okay guys now the voice of reason!!



Tiggy are your mad!!!!



The rest of you lot this is not about priests, pedophilia or religion. This is about a great team now struggling.



Scottish football will struggle without Rangers or Celtic as often it is the only time the 'wee' teams make any money!



The majority of Rangers and Celtic fans couldn't give a damn about religion it is only the ignorant minority.



So CharlieB I have finally had my say. for now. xx



Chris

charlieb


Joined: 17/12/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
16/02/2012 18:48

Well said Chris.

Enjoying winding up the Gers suporters all the same, I would expect the same if not worse if the shoe was on the other foot.

Just watched the press conference from Ibrox and we all know the Rangers will not die, just suffer for a wee while as they re structure the Club as celtic had to do in the 90's.

My love of Celtic would not be the same if there was no Rangers

Rivalry is healthy, as long as it's only about the football and not the other rubbish and baggage that goes along with the Old Firm

See you in JK's for next Old Firm match as per usual and we will continue to support our team and enjoy the banter that comes along with it.