[Festival11]: Reporting to the Police . PART 2

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 00:56

Continuing from : http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/86315.asp

Re: Msg 199,

"So there you have it NO LAW for both the defense and the prosecution in a Lawless Country! You can send as many E Mails as you like to London! they can do nothing Clarissa because the TRNC DOES NOT exist! "

Re: Msg 200,

"Is there any point in complaining to The UK Cheshire Home if what TRNC Victim says is right?"



TRNCvictim, if TRNC doesn't exist, what do the Leonard Cheshire Disability do by claiming that they operate in North Cyprus. Does it mean that they run an illegal operation? Does it mean it doesn't exist at all? The people who donated money don't exist? The money itself doesn't exist?

EamonnMc, my opinion is that the Leonard Cheshire Disability should have been contacted months ago. The head office should be informed about any wrongdoings in their branches.

Any charity takes money embezzlement and any other financial fraud very seriously, let alone charity with the CH standing.

.../

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 01:08

...cont /



How do you know that the culprits if found guilty cannot be prosecuted under the UK or any other European law? It could be done if they are British citizens or if they signed their contracts with CH in the UK or any other European country.

First of all reporting them to the Leonard Cheshire Disability will ensure that they will never be employed again by CH or any other charity.

So do it ASAP.

Otherwise it will be all repeated again and again.



Again, as I said in my previous posting, this doesn't exclude reporting the matter to the TRNC police.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 02:06

Has anyone contacted the secret police ?

yusufildrim


Joined: 18/02/2012
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 02:20

Clarisa

Dunt listen to trncvictim becose she is truble causing

Always about Cyprus.



If trnc not here why she trying to bye tha vila?

All she is doin is call trnc and all people

I think she is tha bad very bad persun.

Trncvictim always rite very bad about my cuntry

And tha people hera.



Avery bodi hav sum bad lucks in life

We dunt call tha people if we makin tha mistaks.

Trncvictim yuo go hom.

Jackslad


Joined: 28/07/2011
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 02:20

Given that a highly experienced Barclays Bank manager and a High Court judge can find no evidence of any wrongdoing and that "there was no need to call in the police", isn't it possible that the two people (three including Elkinton) accused by the lynch mob are actually innocent of any wrongdoing?

Reading back through the various threads, it is assumed that Richard Currie and Hal Crompton are guilty of stealing money, but I can't find any actual evidence of this. Does anyone have any evidence other than "we all say he's guilty"?

Richard Currie admitted in Cyprus Today that he "bit off more than he could chew", but insisted that he had done nothing wrong.

It seems to me that he has taken the fall for many other people: shouldn't the project manager be responsible overall? Who was responsible for the Carnival , which apparently made a loss? The Bex Marshall concert was very poorly attended but had a big backing band. Did that make a profit?

Let's stop and think before we condemn any

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 02:26

Msg 5 , I agree 68,000 expenses

for 42,000 for C/H





why are people so judgemental ?



when they receive the full amount

on installments they will be happy

yusufildrim


Joined: 18/02/2012
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 02:27

Hoo is tha judze

It is mrs paymens husband

He say no invastgationz,wyyy?

Polic shud no all.

coll polic in sanday

tel hym all ov it

Jackslad


Joined: 28/07/2011
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 02:31

cont...

anyone of wrongdoing.

Britain is based on the principle of "innocent until proven guilty". You have all assumed the guilt of these men without any actual evidence. Radio Angel, Selpak, etc. Should either provide whatever evidence of guilt they have or SHUT UP.

Experts say they have done nothing wrong; who are you to contradict that without evidence?

This is the mob mentality at its worst: you make me ashamed to be British.

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 02:39

Hi Jackslad. I agree completely. Thats why I have asked that Festival 11 publish their accounts and as they are accusing people of wrong doing, and that they go to the Police with the evidence they have.



I also hold the whole Festival 11 committee accountable for the mis appropriation on funds. I too now think Richard Currie may have been made the fall guy.

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 02:42

Cont. Without site of the accounts how do we know what money as gone where ? And if Festival 11 are prepared to say that money has been mis appropriated then why do they refuse to publish their audited accounts ?

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 03:01

I mean sight not site...sorry its late and I have been working ! But isnt it strange that one man is taking the blame when no acounts are visable for anyone else to make that judgement ?

Jackslad


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Posts: 13

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 03:02

Radio Angel msg 9/10:

Let's distinguish between the various groups here: As I see it, the Cheshire Home authorised Richard Currie and Hal Crompton to run Festival11; they put together a team to organise it: I understand that Elkinton was the Project Manager, with overall responsibility; Brian P and Claire M were in charge of the Carnival; Tony W produced the programme, Ziggy W was in charge of security, etc.

Tony E has accused Richard and Hal of wrongdoing; the Cheshire Home (a High Court judge and a bank manager included) have investigated and found NO EVIDENCE of wrongdoing. Nevertheless, Richard, as leader of the F11 team, has agreed to reimburse the Home out of his own pocket. Not because he has done anything wrong, but because he feels responsible that it went wrong.

We're all losing sight of the fact that the Cheshire Home made money; not as much as they hoped. but surely 40,000TL plus isn't bad!

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 03:04

Clarissa2, while I don't agree with everything you said in Msgs. 1 and 2...I, for one am going to follow your lead and express my concerns to the parent body, The Leonard Cheshire Home organisation in the U,K, I hope it will have the desired effect and help to lift the cloud that hangs over a very worthy charity. Something stinks to high heaven about this whole saga and in my opinion, we, the ordinary people, have not been a party to the whole story, We need to know what the emails between radioangel and Tony contained so as to learn who knew what. They have both asked each other, to make these available, so why have we not seen them ? Very strange or what ?

Jackslad


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Posts: 13

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 03:09

The way I see it is that it's not the F11 committee that are refusing to publish the accounts. F11, led by elkinton, have produced the accounts to the Cheshire Home, who after all were the ultimate authority here. The Cheshire Home investigated with a very high-powered committee, who found no evidence of any wrongdoing.

Should we therefore allow the C44 lynch mob to declare these guys guilty without any evidence?

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 03:13

Hi JackLad.



That is all correct although CH may or may not have 24,000 tl at the moment ( it has not been confirmed that they actually have this money ) and there are still outsanding debts to pay. This has all been covered on another thread. They may not end up having any profit at all.



CH have indeed drawn a line under the matter. However The Festival 11 committee have not published an account of funds so we cannot know what was raised by what event or what the expenses of 68 000 tl covered or what were the discrepencies.



It is too convienient to let one person fall on their sword over this and say that the total misappropriation of funds has been dealt with by his agreement to pay back funds undr duress.

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 03:18

radioangel,



Will you and Tony please release the emails that you exchanged between each other and answer the question, posed by many posters on the previous thread, as to why you refuse to report these matters to the police.? You have been given good and helpful advise by many as to how to do this but you refuse to grasp the nettle. Why ? You and Selpak, wrote hundreds of posts on this subject, asked many questions, demanded answers but now you stay mum. What is the problem ? You seek the truth from others, now provide it to us.

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 03:20

Re message 14. The people who GAVE the money also have a right to know how it was spent . The Festival 11 committee announced that funds had been misappropriated. Then refused to say how this had happened or publish the accounts that they had audited.

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 03:25

Anyone else please free to email me at radioangel@hotmail.co.uk for obvious reasons , as I have outlined , and I will pass on all the information as I have done throughout this evening. Thanks D x

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 07:26

Do not judge so that you will not be judged” Matthew 7:1



I don't normally quote biblical verses but find this appropriate, just think about the words!



Also have any of you thought about the stress that you are putting on these people and their families, how will you feel if one of these people suffers a heart attack!



I would suggest until we have ALL the facts that people just lay off all the parties involved and give them a chance to reply.



Chris

p.s. I am not taking sides one way or the other.

northcyprus74


Joined: 11/01/2012
Posts: 275

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 09:28

If there is so much discriminateing evidence rather then going on & on & on about it on the forum take the matter to the police, better yet if such a large some is missing appoint a lawyer to look into the matter! Just stop going on about CH they raised a substantial ammount, maybe not as high as predicted but still very substantial.



Does anyone question KAR were all there money goes or ask them for audits? KAR is a disgrace, and seem to get a pat on the back all the time... Come on guys!!! Take legal action or shut it!

Groucho



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Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 10:08

Given the piss-poor standard of English being minced on these threads I'm pretty sure any submission to the police by the likes of those in the lynch mob would only baffle the police....They would probably arrest the complainants in the confusion! Their names being the only discernible part of the paperwork....

Around and around it goes and it is reaching hysteria proportions by the baying mob. It's fairly clear that the handling of receipts and accounting was of a lower standard than is expected but that does not mean that the protagonists in this saga have lined their own pockets. To use innuendo and gossip to promote a witch hunt is quite despicable.. you all know who you are and I can imagine why the witch hunt by certain members (banned and not) was started.

You should hang your heads in shame. Those who have jumped on this bandwagon are not without shame either.

mel7348


Joined: 01/02/2012
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 10:17

Message 13 - I think the We Need To Know should read I Need To Know, personally I have no interest in the contents of the Chairmans off forum Emails.

Carndi


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 613

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 10:25

Message 20. The accounts for KAR are published and there is an annual general meeting held and a report given by the treasurer.



Reference the expences for Festival 11. Mr Atilla Berberoglu,founding president of the charity, has said that there was no reason to release a financial brealdown of the expences. They are no-one elses business. What is the reaction from forum members to that statement ?

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 10:40

Re Msg 23,

"...Mr Atilla Berberoglu,founding president of the charity, has said that there was no reason to release a financial brealdown of the expences. They are no-one elses business. What is the reaction from forum members to that statement ? "



My reaction is that this person doesn't understand the ethos behind any charity.

So perhaps next time people will be thinking twice before donating to such charities in TRNC.

MrsSnakes



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 1100

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 10:48

Msg 23, My thoughts are that Mr AB does not want us to see accounts because it might cause him and others much embarrasment and open up a can of worms.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 11:04

Yes Mrs Snakes, and as I think you and I know. It will be Catering size can.

mel7348


Joined: 01/02/2012
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 11:04

When I first moved here something occured and I said to a Cypriot friend this is illogical, his reply was Ah that is your interpretation of logic, stand on your head and then just maybe you will begin to understand the Turkish Cypriot interpretation. Who is to say one is right as oppossed to the other ?. We are living within a very different cultural society. To live within this society is our choice. Yes I expect many Expats will think twice before donating to Turkish Cypriot charities, that is their choice. There are several very worthy charities that have a majority Expat Management commitee who I hope will continue to receive the enthusiastic support they so richly deserve.

Happy Hussar


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Posts: 318

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 12:10

I think these two geezers are just ' misunderstood'. So what if they got a new car or flights to New Zealand out of it. They probably think they earned it!!

I for one will Never again be taken in by them. Even a hint of their involvement in any fundraising venture no matter how worthy will put me off.

I will even think twice about the kosher charities.

Tony

hattikins


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Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 12:20

Message 28,

I think sadly that the result of all of this will affect all of the charities here in TRNC, can anyone call that a good thing.

cavalryman


Joined: 08/11/2010
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 12:23

Amen to that these people should not be let near any cash in the future by their reluctance to reveal their complicity in the matter and their obvious incompetence to control it makes them unfit in any office.I will donate in the uk only from now on.

northcyprus74


Joined: 11/01/2012
Posts: 275

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 12:27

OK accusations accusation If these had been thrown to other establishments which they have been in the past the thread would have been shut by the MODS so I guess now they should intervene as on many occasions they have shut threads due to insufficient evidence.... don't the same apply here?



If such things had been thrown up against lets say........ do I dare mention them??? Would this thread be shut down?



Plus why have accusers not been banned for throwing around and naming people without evidence?

BizziLizzi


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Posts: 855

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 12:34

When a member of KAR was accused of wrong doing (with strong evidence of law breaking) and posters wanted assurances that the Charity was taking appropriate steps to ensure doners' money was not being misused, KAR refused to comment and we were told in no uncertain terms that we had to wait until publications of the Accounts and the attend the General Meeting if we wanted to know more.



So why is Cheshire Homes being treated differently. ? There is oviously a campaign to undermine them and the good work they are doing. Cheshire Homes have dealt with a nasty situation resposibily and with dignity and common sense and should be thanked and congratulated in the best interests of their clients and community relations.



Damage has been caused to Cheshire HOmes and all Charities in the TRNC by the way Festival 11 was run, but will goodwill it could have been got over.



Whether they can recover from the hate campaign is debatable. contd.

BizziLizzi


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Posts: 855

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 12:39

What is certain is that whatever wrongs Richard Currie have or have not done and whatever their motives, the behaviour of those who are using the situation to undermine the hard work many dedicated people over twenty years regardless the effect on the defenceless clients is a hundred times worse. They appear to be motivated by spite and the same mindless cruelty that pulls wings of flies and tortures helpless animals.

northcyprus74


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Posts: 275

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 12:46

Shall we all start a thread of certain establishments?



We can then see if the threads are shut or not this has gone on all to long and should be shut !



Shall I start a thread about another business and accuse people with no facts? Would I or would I not be shut down?!!

parkview



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Posts: 1123

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 12:48

Mssg 28 and 29



If you went to a supermarket and the food and service was bad, would you never shop in another supermarket again because you would assume all the supermarkets will be the same. If people have this attitude I am afraid that whoever is responsible for this fiasco will have done far worse than they have been accused of. I know everyone is angry and upset but please do not assume all charities here are the same. If in doubt of any charity on the island ask to see end of year accounts. Every charity should have one and it should be available for the public to see. Think of all the legitimate charities that will suffer because of this and in turn will effect whatever causes they are working for. Charities should give official receipts for all monies raised and donated at events, and people should not put money in buckets.

northcyprus74


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Posts: 275

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 15:22

How comes the thread is still open?

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 16:16

This and the previous thread both asked , why the festival 11 committee have not reported the facts to the police ?



The committee had the primary responsibility to do so but when they refused, others were asked to made the complaint. They ducked and dived, bobbed and weaved and prevaricated, despite the fact that they were the ones looking for all the answers. They were advised of the procedures that needed to be followed, but still declined to make a simple complaint. If their house or car was broken into they would call the cops but when money goes walkabout from a charity,that they supported, they choose to do nothing.



As regards the emails between Radioangel and Tony E, these may be important as they will show who knew what or didn't. We the general public were fed information in a piecemeal manner for whatever reason, I think, since both have given permission for their publication, that we should see them and then make our own judgment on their value.

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 17:35

Msg 6, Philbailey,



Why should the charity wait to get their money in installments and why was the festival 11 committee forced to sign a secrecy agreement to enable this ? The cash owed belongs to the CH and should be paid in full and without delay.

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 17:41

Msg 38

in was meant to be tongue in cheek



anyone who thinks those expenses are genuine

is naive

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 18:10

Bizzi Lizzi i wrong. Where is the hate campaign againd Cheshire Home ? People are concerned that they did not get funds that were due to them.

Giles


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Posts: 256

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 18:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc-gRvG0cqM

BizziLizzi


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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 18:22

Message 35. Cheshire Homes is a legitimate and reputable charity. They prepare independently audited accounts available to the public in the same way as other registered Charities.



I agree with you about buckets - I understand that at least one other collector for charity has got he message and will use proper secure collecting containers in future. Hope all others will. Personally I would never put money in an unsecured contained - however worth and reliable I thought the cause



When Cheshire Homes collect direct they use approved collection boxes which are locked and opened and counted in the presence of more than one official of the charity.



The "buckets" were an initiative of Festival 11 and I doubt approved of Cheshire Homes was sought in advance. Part of the problem is that North Cyprus has a culture of trust. Sadly this can no longer be relied on.

BizziLizzi


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Posts: 855

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 18:29

Message 34. Yes I have held off posting about the ill judged actions of another Charity which are costing me money I can ill afford (and I havent even had the enjoyment of a Concert) because I did not want to prejudice other good work of the Charity.



Perhaps I should now go ahead and see how quickly I am smothered in objections and the thread closed!



I ask again - why is behind this campaign against a worthy and valuable institution in the TRNC and what are their motives?

Giles


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Posts: 256

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 18:38

The motives of the main protagonists would seem to be obvious "Look at me aren't I clever". Nothing would be simpler that for those with information than to go to the authorities and make a complaint.



The fact that they would rather continue posting on an internet forum, rather than doing the right thing, tells us much about their morals.

Woodspeckie


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Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 18:38

EamonnMc. Seems like there is only you obsessed with the e-mails.

Jackslad msg 12 further up in the post seems to know a lot about what has gone on within Cheshire Home why not ask him where he got his information from.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 18:46

Anonymous posters and morals. Yeah. Contradictio in terminis.

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 18:50

Woodspeckie,



You have already asked the question of Jackslad, and you seem to be correct about the emails. The champions of full disclosure,Radioangel and Tony E, have reneged on the opportunity to put them in the public domain, despite both giving their written permission to each other. Another fudge ? Why?

BizziLizzi


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Posts: 855

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:10

Message 34. Yes I have held off posting about the ill judged actions of another Charity which are costing me money I can ill afford (and I havent even had the enjoyment of a Concert) because I did not want to prejudice other good work of the Charity.



Perhaps I should now go ahead and see how quickly I am smothered in objections and the thread closed!



I ask again - why is behind this campaign against a worthy and valuable institution in the TRNC and what are their motives?

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:21

There is no campaign AGAINST CH Bizzi Lizzi as I told you when we met a Cheshire Home last week. This is about finding out where the much needed funds raised to HELP Cheshire Home have been spent.



We are talking about THOUSANDS of pounds of money that people gave to fund Cheshire Home.

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:23

Message 38. There was no gagging order just a conspiracy on the part of Festival 11 not to tell the truth about the fact that the money they annonced had been raised, had not in fact been given to CH.

CyprusNow


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Posts: 168

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:23

DutchCrusader



Topset, you and morals. A contradiction in terms !

EamonnMc


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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:30

Msg 50,,"No gagging order",



That's not what Tony E posted in "The plot thins" thread.



what about the emails ?

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:31

Message 42. Cheshire Home have no obligation to show their accounts. Their honesty has never been in question AT ALL. I spoke with Attilla Berberoglu and Taner Erginal.



Festival 11 had a duty of care that they have abdicated. They not CH organised ALL the events. Festival 11 collected ALL the money. Festival for what ever reason did not make sure that ALL this money went to Cheshire home who badly need it.



It is FESTIVAL 11 who owe every single person who gave even a lira, an explanation as to where that money went.

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:35

As I posted last night anyone can email me on radioangel@hotmail.co.uk for any information at all. For obvious reasons. I thank everyone who has already emailed me. D x

elkiton



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Posts: 514

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:46

"...There was no gagging order just a conspiracy on the part of Festival 11 not to tell the truth about the fact that the money they annonced had been raised, had not in fact been given to CH....." "..It is FESTIVAL 11 who owe every single person who gave even a lira, an explanation as to where that money went...."



So Denise, you are now openly calling me and my colleagues liars? Time to settle this once and for all.

Brian P, Ziggy Watkins and myself have just conferred. We now offer you the chance to interview us collectively at BRT. We would appreciate this being done live, with TV cameras, and our mutual friend Jan to be there to conduct the interview with you.

Let me know where and when you want us for a briefing, call me on 05338444882 and we will be there for you to interrogate.

TonyE

RadioAngel


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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:53

Tony I would never EVER give you a minute of air time UNTİL you present a copy of your Festival 11 accounts.



I wouldn't be part of your deceit before and I won't be now.





You lied to me before and I call that being a liar. Please feel free to contact Can Gazi at BRT on 225 2555

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:55

or alternatively ...post accounts for the money you raised........then we can talk ! Dx

EamonnMc


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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:55

Very interesting offer, Tony E and please also release the emails I have requested on numerous occasions.

sharpknife


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Posts: 30

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:56

Hey this guy has balls.

Come on Radio Bird do your stuff, take the emails with you too.

This is a good soap, Im callin it "CheshireGate"

Ocam

RadioAngel


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Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:56

and the REALLY strange this is you said when questioned yesterday that The Festival 11 committee had been dissolved .....

RadioAngel


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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 19:57

or you could show me a signed copy of the 'gagging order'.......

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:00

@ msg 59, Sharpknife: (...) This is a good soap, Im callin it "CheshireGate" (...)

▶ Not right, I think. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with Cheshire Homes. "FestivalGate" is a better name.

elkiton



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Posts: 514

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:05

Wriggling Denise?

There are no conditions on the offer, take it or leave it.

If you leave it then you are really just looking to keep this thread active for your own sensation seeking purposes as we could get to the "truth" you so badly want in a few minutes face to face.

Yes Eamonn I would release the emails at the interview, and the phone number of the person I called at BRT to get her involved, that is on my phone record too. But, I really don't think she wants to be exposed as a fraud, and embarrass our go-between hence her wordy refusal.

Two things for you. There is one set of the Accounts, signed, the wet-ink original, court acceptable document. It is at the Home and only they have the right to release it. With it is the letter from R.Currie containing the Gagging Clause.

Come on, put 3 witnesses on the stand that will swear to it's authenticity.

Put your money where your mouth is, get us in the hot seat, if you dare.

TonyE

CyprusNow


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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:07

DutchCrusader



Is that like TopsetGate?

EamonnMc


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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:07

Radioangel,



Ask them the questions live on air. What an opportunity this is for you to show what you are made of and to raise the profile of your program. Ask the hard questions live on air and let's all hear the answers. You should be wetting yourself with excitement (pardon the crudity) at the chance to pin them down and question them where there is no hiding place. What about the emails, Tony ?

RadioAngel


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Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:10

No wriggle at all Tony E. Poduce your audited by Grahame Ash accounts and then we can talk.



You called Can Gazi when I was in Scotland. My words to him when I returned I am not getting involved doing anyones dirty work !!!!



Why on earth would I give you a minute of time when you have lied to me and STILL won't produce your accounts. That you don't have them is laughable !



D

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:13

Yep Eamonn they are part of the deal, I will show them on air too, as well as the phone call record of her colleague with whom I spoke asking for BRT assistance to get this thing some air time. No holds barred now, Radio Angel went totally rogue and this needs to be shut down once and for all.

Come on come on, the offer it hot and the clock ticking. Call your boss at the station Denise, and set it up, we and your public can't wait!

Festivalgate, I like it.

TonyE

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:14

and you sign a gagging order and don't have a copy after all your bluster about not being able to keep a record of accounts for Festiva,l due to the fall guys incompetence !!!!!

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:17

ahh rougue...you mean I wasn't fooled by you into being used to promote you own agenda and blame shifting ?



Accounts ? hahahah oh I forgot now at 8pm on Sunday night you announce for the first time you don't have them!!! LOL

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
19/02/2012 20:19

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