The British Royal Navy...where I served a few years...new contract

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 19:45

New contract given today for refuelling tankers.......worth £452m....and the contract goes to.........





South Korea !!!!!





Is UK government crazy? Where are the UK based ship builders employing local people?????



Speechless Mike

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
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Message Posted:
22/02/2012 19:50

been watching this mike , mod states no british yard came back with a final bid , hence the contract going to south korea ,

mikelapta



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Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 19:57

Well Les,the UK shipyards want a kick up the arse !!!No wonder "Rule Britannia "is only sung at the Last Night of the Proms



Mike

rowlo



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Message Posted:
22/02/2012 20:03

i agree with you , but do you think a more sinister reason for awarding it to south korea exists ? after all it would allow top brass to enter the south , and maybe take a peek at what the north was upto .

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 20:47

hi rowlo, you are seeing conspiracy where it doesn't exist. Brass can go to Korea anytime they want,



This is just another example of UK ship-building going abroad.

All the big ships built in the last few years, including P&O and Cunard ships have been built in foreign yards.

Our ship building and Merchant Navy have been allowed to go to the dogs.



USA and France build and man their ships - why don't we?



Good old Maggie!

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 21:06

South Korea





Better get some spare parts ordered and some extended warranty !

Sundance


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Message Posted:
22/02/2012 22:24

Mike so you where a matlo, what ships,?



Sundance

Jonesy299


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 367

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 23:54

I'm afraid BAe (plus the grip the unions have on wages and working practices) mean that they get priced out - plus unless there's significant profit they won't bother bidding (they have turned down at least 3 minor build / refit projects to my knowledge). They also don't have the build capacity at the moment (stretched with current Type 45 / QE Class builds plus Astute). French and USA governments still heavily subsidise their ship building and pay heavily for it. RFA's are effectively civilian build standard units anyway (not bespoke warship standard) so Korean contract no suprise.

Jonesy299


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 367

Message Posted:
22/02/2012 23:56

Plus.. there's no such thing as the 'British' Royal Navy - it's the Royal Navy!!!

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
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Message Posted:
23/02/2012 07:17

UK yards are too expensive! Are you saying they should get the work whatever price they charge?

Surely not! The Govt would then be accused of not getting value for money.

Twixt a Rock and a Hard place comes to mind.

Geoff

Famagusta City.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 08:01

South Korea !!!!!











Is UK government crazy? Where are the UK based ship builders employing local people?????





how long since you were in UK, Mike.



South Koreans are "local people"



T

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 08:55

Tony,I had 2 holidays in the Phillipines last year.I stayed at a 4*hotel in Cebu,owned by South Koreans,at least half the visitors were SK's,the shopping mallnext door,owned by SK's,on a bus journey we passed at least 10 fish farms,yep,owned by SK's.They have even built a Shoe making factory to exploit "cheap labour"



Bob,I was in the Fleet Air Arm,so mainly shore based.Dartmouth,but did sail on Ark Royal and Centaur,when the RN had carriers

Jonesy299


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 367

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 10:05

Mike - that means you were a WAFU (nickname for a naval aviator - I'll let you explain!!!).

scootex



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Posts: 908

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 10:42

What makes me sad is after wacthing the beeb programmes "empire of the seas" " Hearts of Oak" how we were once the premier league naval nation ,to now not being able to build our own ships Samuel Pepys and Francis Drake must be turning in their graves

PS a really good programme

davpat


Joined: 23/08/2011
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
23/02/2012 10:58

rowlo,stated that no British yard gave a bid.................so no contest,typical British apathy,quite pathetic really.





David