This board is under attack

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 10:05

It must now be obvious, to all but the casual observer, that this boards is under attack from a number of Cyprus-Forum members for no reason other than to cause this boards members concern and to put forward a political propaganda agenda outwith the aims and intentions of this board...



It there any point at which we should say, enough is enough and can/will anything be done about it...



I would have thought harbouring an intention to undermine this board would automatically bestow the status of quizzling 5th columnist in our ranks...



It is one thing to use reasoned argument to further a discussion, quite another to attempt to destroy a board for propaganda purposes, just so that you can crow on another BB about powerful your rhetoric is and how you are able to make the members of this board appear to be morons...

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 10:28

Over to you Pike.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 10:37

groucho

i am not so sure!

i hear where you are coming from but these posters don't sound for real to me.

i will check it out and get back to you.

think maybe someone is playing games,lol.

arrry



Joined: 19/08/2008
Posts: 1235

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 11:29

It's about time some of you woke up and smelt the coffee !!!!



There are loads of them on here



Yesterday it was greek cypriot and everybody falls over themselves



answering his posts . Everyday there is a new wind up



merchant and every day you fall for it



There are loads of macaosys out there just peeing themselves at you !!!



They know who to target with their questions cos they know who BITES !!!

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 11:38

arry

you can't fool all of the people all of the time!



these new posters think they can!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 11:55

I touched on this yesterday, they use the same spelling mistakes, and an over-use of '@' their was 'two' new posters a day or so ago, arguing the same argument making the same spelling mistakes and using @@@@@@ all the time.

Best not to bite, and just ignore.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 11:57

Vicki,



As nearly every other thread is now being infected how's that going to be possible?

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:02

Just don't comment Groucho, even if they say something nasty, just pretend they're not their, they'll soon go away. What's the point in there 'fun' if we ignore them? they look like fools. They certainly won't be pasting our comment's on their board, if they are ignored.

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:09

we dony have em over there

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:10

Absolutely:



Bigotry will not be tolerated!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:13

Nige,

I was personnaly attacked on another board, I ignored it, and asked other members to do the same, even though it was me who was targeted, what happened? although he was dealt with swiftly, and not barred, he never bothered me again.

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:16

Britvic



Why were you bothered?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:18

These people are just wind up merchants, ignore them and they will go away, the moderators will deal with them if they overstep the mark.

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:19

ahhh so the answer is to deal with it QUICKLY AND not respond.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:20

Message 12, Excuse me?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:20

You are right Gavin. I have noticed this over the past few days - new members joining and then posting anti British and anti trnc statements. There are a few people in there element with this type of propoganda, best not to bite.

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:23

Britvic



You said:



"he never bothered me again."



so he must have bothered you previously. I was wondering what he said that bothered you and why you were bothered by it?

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:23

Nail on the head Nige!

britvic



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Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 12:26

The person we ignored, on the other board post's on here, obviously under a different name.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 13:32

I reckon the best way to deal with these individuals is to simply Log off, that way the lunatics will be left in the asylum on there own, and i'm quiet sure that someone, somewhere will notice members leaving in there droves, and deal with the problem.

This is a business is it not?

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 13:36

Groucho: "I would have thought harbouring an intention to undermine this board would automatically bestow the status of quizzling 5th columnist in our ranks..."



That seems like a somewhat hysterical response. A Fifth Columnist from the WW2 definition is someone who collaborates with the enemy. From what I've seen any GCs on this board are upfront and loyal to their own cause and scornful of those who would buy, sell and occupy their homes. Seems fair enough to me.



After all, weren't you moaning about unfair moderation the other day? Freedom of speech to all.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 13:40

Freedom of speech is just fine, but if you don't like what you hear, wouldn't it be best not to listen any more?

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 13:45

If you don't listen you won't know what they are saying and so you won't know if they are someone you shouldn't be listening to.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 13:53

Dear Harlequin,



The first time somebody say's something you don't like, walk away, and log out, you know when you don't want to listen to any more.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 13:56

msg 21 from our very own "Lord Haw Haw" GC calling...GC calling...



I would say the above likeable chump! is more than likely in league with the said rabble.



Replying to messages that are intended to upset and cause concerns will only fuel these idiots. So you know what to do.



Guttenmorgen!

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 13:59

I believe forum has been "under attack" for several weeks. Went though all that rubbish with mac whats his name and most still did not twig on to him.



Find it best to play them or ignore them totally. Problem is that unless you have been around for a while on forums, new comers will get drawn in so quickly.



Only other alternative is to delete them as soon a s they start but that is against freedom of choice etc.



Sorry no answers from me Groucho as to how to stop it.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 14:00

Pike



I hear what you are saying and note that you have chosen yet again to take this thread, which is not about property, off on a tangent to spread more vitriol.



Did I say it was you? I don't think so but you seem to recognise yourself..



I notice you take great delight in pouring scorn on your fellow man...



My contention is this; if one's aim is not to make a point and engage in a reasoned discussion but to render the BB useless to its intended members then it's not just a freedom of speech issue.. and it shows bad faith. By overloading nearly every thread with the same old dig about property rights and wrongs the board has become something less.. is somehow not as useful or interesting to its members...



That you are prime mover in this respect is not missed and it is also why you are being lauded elsewhere for a good job well done, and further, I notice you basking in your 'glory'.. how very nice of you...

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 13:56

PtePike: That seems like a somewhat hysterical response. A Fifth Columnist from the WW2 definition is someone who collaborates with the enemy. From what I've seen any GCs on this board are upfront and loyal to their own cause and scornful of those who would buy, sell and occupy their homes. Seems fair enough to me.



I agree, why shouldn't the Greek Cypriots say what they think? If I was living in a refugees house (or on their land) I should WANT to know what their feelings are!!!! Restricting and/or banning their posts will not, in the real world (not this "virtual" one) make them go away, or take away the fact you may one day lose your investment!!!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 14:05

As for Unfair moderation?



I was simply at a loss to see why it was felt necessary to edit my post which was in not in contravention of rules and was pretty light-hearted... even if it was about the rules...



On the other hand...



"Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning."



I would have thought the current increased trend towards board sabotage was just this....

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 14:12

Theresa,



I don't think pretending to be a TC in one post and GC in a reply shows much honesty... This is the sort of thing that is going on...



It's not really helping anyone know what the real feelings are and it is also orchestrated... that is, a whole raft of posters are in collusion to shut this board down by overload...



You may not care that much... that's your right.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 15:02

I wouldn't worry about it Gavin. They have their own forum and that is their safe space. They have been temporarily bouyed by what they experience as winning a battle. Things will setle down.



If this forum is a microcosm of the cyprus problem in general then their are some interesting lessons.

Contrary to popular belief, incursions, agreesion and attacks are not carried out by the subdued, the weak and impotent, they are often carried out by those who win battles. The aggressor rarely steps down and declares peace, they march forward and onwards. The powerful always become more powerful, in the same way as the richer get richer.

This is why it is so important that the TC's carve out a settlement that genuinely protects them as a minority. If they lose, and the GC's win in any deal then the TC's will eventually lose power, regardless of what the EU could offer in protection.

Happy Hussar


Joined: 01/10/2008
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 15:08

Next year after reunification and after the green line is dismantled Turkish and Greek Cypriots will be 'partying' in the streets, kissing each other, back slapping and doing 'high fives' and wondering what all the fuss was about!



Put your trust in President Talat and President Christopius. You know it makes sense!

Tony

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 15:58

More evidence...



It seems we will have to desist from discussion of anything that could be waylaid by the culprits...



They will of course start their own threads then but I for one won't be interested...



Such a shame, it just shows how grown up they are that they think this pyrrhic victory was ever there to be had...

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 16:46

dear oh dear .......................

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 16:47

Lewis,



This thread is about attacks on the board...



You start a thread about your dad if you want....



If I start one about property rights you are free to post your thoughts on it..



I am not blind I don't need you to tell be about this I have no illusions about the people who live in and around me but that is not the subject of this thread...



It is about and only about a concerted effort to render this board defunct by a group of members from another board...



If you want to join them that's fine... it is still just more evidence...



PS "You obviously have no moral principles or scruples."



Is a personal attack on my character and as you don't know me I find it offensive... but hey, don't let that stop you...



Taken

With

A

Total lack of good grace.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 18:01

I'm interested in how you make yourself conversant with the thoughts of everybody else... neat trick if you can do it... bad boasting if you can't..



But as lot's of other people appear know exactly what I'm talking about I guess you havn't bothered to read many of the replies to this or other threads rendered pointless by these attacks.....



Well maybe just

Another

Non-informative

Kind of poster

Everyone should

Recognise

mickey rourke


Joined: 27/08/2008
Posts: 157

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 18:06

Groucho

I am sorry but I must also say IMHO you are an idiot who likes to make himself heard and has an arrogant input into every topic (anmost) on this board, you more than others are putting the board under attack now back off

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 18:06

msg 36,

Everyone else know's what he's talking about.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 18:13

Oop's some post's have been deleted, look's like Grouch is just ranting now.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 18:19

Guys enough is enough. Groucho you make a lot of valid points about different issues yet you allow yourself to be sucked in by the likes of Pte Pike and his one dimensional dross that comes out of his mouth their is no validity in his comments he is just a classic wind up merchant. Dont be part of his audience and he will soon go away!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 18:30

Blackpoolfan,



You WISH everything I say was one-dimensional. More enlightened members are perfectly aware that everything I've been saying on these BBs for the past five-odd years is coming true.



If you buy something that isn't yours to buy you could end up in big trouble. Facing your worst nightmare, in fact. How one-dimensional is that?

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 18:59

Blackpoolfan msg41



So right. The Little Boy in the Sailor Suit can only spout one line,despite the "wealth of knowledgs" claimed . I have pretty much decided to simply ignore the rhetoric as that is all it is. The "more enlightened members" simply disregard the constant verbal dross. as nothing he has said is coming true contrary to his claims. It's rather like his G.C. chums putting their hands up (each other???) and saying "it wasn't me GUV" . I wouldn't even consider it one dimensional, just rubbish!!!!!!!!

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 19:05

Pike

Listening to you is like the the cat that just found the biggest bowl of cream in the world,

slurp..slurp..slurp......... all gone

but cream has a nasty habit of going sour ??

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 19:14

Turtle,



A lot of people's dreams are turning sour but this cat is doing just fine.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 19:18

Mr Pike,

"Enlightened Members" i put it to you this is a sudonym for the rest of the negative,moaning brigade for which you represent. Time to board your tug and sail into the sunset and journey to pastures new, i believe the isle of man is very nice this time of year. Oh and dont forget to take your fancy dress outfit back to the shop!! Despite all that have a pleasant christmas and dare i say a POSITIVE new year.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 19:21

Blackpoolfan,



Thanks for your good wishes but I'll leave the "tugging" to certain others.

littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 19:27

if you are so unhappy with the board why are you still posting ?

Becks


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 19:32

Pikey wont be happy until he has everyone on this board arguing with ech other. he is scarmongering like his other croneys . hes been posting on this board morning and night since friday I thought he had young kids , why dont he spend time with them like a normal father.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 19:34

Message 50. OUCH..................

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 19:51

Msg 50



When did the word NORMAL ever apply?????????????

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
21/12/2008 20:51

Msg 16

It's not just new members who are putting on anti British slogans, some well established members are continually doing so, If they have left the UK and claim they would never return, why don't they give it a rest, they are so boring.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 01:59

Becks,







He would be better off putting his Andrex bog roll under his chin, which may catch most of crap he come out with. (not all)









Post edited for personal attack

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 10:44

groucho

could you please email me. sharpeisara@hotmail.com



(sorry moderators but groucho doesn't display an email address, please forgive me this once! )

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 10:47

Tiggy



Christ he'd need a big bog roll then

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 11:35

Where are they learning their morals then?????????

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 11:42

gibson

do we need to go down this road?

i think not!

i will just say that honesty and decency are a virtue.

which many people don't have.

i am sure pikes kids will grow up with both.

i also think it is unfair to bring peoples family into things on the forum.

start with pike by all means but don't bring his family into it!



why not go out and do a good deed for someone today, it will make you feel better!

happy christmas.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 11:45

fire starter very well said.





start with pikes POSTS by all means but don't bring his family into it!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 11:55

fire starter and nige,



Thanks very much for those words of support which I knew I could rely on. I hadn't seen what had developed on the thread because I was with the little ones (sharing childcare I see more of them than poor Mrs Pike) who are getting v. excited because they will be seeing their grandparents shortly.



Hope you have a good Christmas and the same to other friends out there.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 11:59

Hope you and your Family have a good Xmas too PP.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 12:01

well done pike

its nice to see dads doing their fair share, unlike many!

my hubby always did his share when our kids were small.

now he just poors them a pint,lol.

i hope you and the family have a great christmas.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 13:20

Cheers Doyen!



FS, I look at my contemporaries who work away all hours and miss seeing their kids in the morning and putting them down at night and I'm so glad I can work from home. It's so good for kids to see the male/female roles as being interchangeable. You look at the youngsters who will never have a male role model in their lives and you can understand why some areas have feral youths. The social inquiry reports attached to the charge sheets I go through daily tell the same story time and time again. Born to fail.



That's what angers me about the "lock 'em all up and build more jails" brigade. Until it's tackled at grass roots and poverty/deprivation is addressed the UK will continue to be one of the failing nations in Europe which already locks up more people than the others.



From family life to criminal justice in one post!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 13:28

Well said PP,

I wish my partner could have spent more time with our Son when he was growing up, but when you own your own business it's difficult. Now our son is nearly 20, they are best buddies, so I suppose it worked out in the end, I have to say even though dad wasn't around much, we have never had the Police at the door, and my son is at University with 3A's under his belt for Science, Math's and Chemistry, he's a lovely kind person.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 13:49

britvic,



That's the trouble isn't it, reconciling personal circumstances with the family. I have to say I know others in your partner's position whose relationships with their kids and the way the youngsters turned out was as excellent as it was for him. Being able to share a pint as adult friends after the growing up process has got to be a sign of a job well done. I look forward to doing the same with my lad in another 11 years or so and 15 years for little madam, and knowing her it will be pints! A lot of how they turn out if the dad is away a lot is down to good mothering and social background, education and personal values. If only kids came with instructions - particularly ones for each model!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 19:12

Mickey



"Groucho ...... you more than others are putting the board under attack now back off"



How do you work this one out?



Oh, and thank you for well-reasoned and rational response... such a nice man.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 19:54

Iv'e heard it all now. Mr Perfect !!!!!!!



where's the bucket....Im about to heave.











No need to moderate this one!.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 20:03

Ah, the pubs must be coming out at some or other down-at-heel place.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 20:05

Oh, do behave yourself Tiggy, It's getting boring.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 20:16

Tiggy



Is Groucho the topic of your post or somebody else because the way posts are disappearing it's getting very tough to work out....

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 20:19

Grouch, when you read all the post's back, because of the moderation it look's like your arguing with yourself, in fact it look's like your having a right rant!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
22/12/2008 23:43

Vicki,



I know, I think moderation is a wonderful thing and it makes it so easy to work out who has said what to whom... Still don't know how Mickey's post calling me an idiot is allowed to stand whilst other posts are removed.... I don't want it removed I'm just interested in the thinking behind what does and what doesn't get amended or deleted...





This post has not been edited by a Moderator... it got like this all by itself.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
24/12/2008 18:19

Dear Mr Groucho,



you are not the topic of my post on msg 68. Have a good Christmas.



Britvic....me boring....never! and a lovely Christmas to you as well.





Happy Christmas to the moderators.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
24/12/2008 18:49

And to you too Patrick. Hope you get everything you want, and want everything you get.

Vicki

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
24/12/2008 19:27

hi britvic i didnt think you were old enough, we all had that problem with working and balancing life but i thank god every night my 3 turned out ok your boy is very clever and you must be so proud pike is correct they do not come with instructions only the way we teach them.have a grat time with them lol lilli xxx on and god blessxxxx

witchfinder



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 155

Message Posted:
25/12/2008 02:51

I thought this board was about helping each other on TRNC matters and for the spreading off information of interest to each other. So why do we yet again chase various people and actually aknowledge post that are not relevant. The easiest thing todo is ignore the posts that you do not agree with and they will eventually not have an audience to write too.... merry christmas to you all