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babyheritage


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Message Posted:
09/03/2012 21:27

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Can one just confirm if you have a 90 day stamp how does it work if you want it renewed, do you have to wait to go on the day the visa runs out or do they give you another 90 prior to the original stamp date?



poochielover


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09/03/2012 21:43

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You don't have to wait until the expiry date, you can go across any time. It doesn't necessarily mean that you will get another 90 days though, they'll give you what they feel like giving you on the day.



Hope this helps.

Poochie.



AlsancakJack



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09/03/2012 23:27

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And after doing that a couple of times you may find that TRNC immigration will 'invite' you to apply for residency.



Groucho



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10/03/2012 00:29

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Officially crossing to the south is not a substitute for residency and after approx 4 goes (4x90) your UK Driving licence is no longer sufficient to drive here... and you can't get a TRNC one without residency... Then you may be classed as driving without insurance... Some people seem to manage this sleight of hand on the basis that 'cheating the system' is their inalienable right - quoting some cocked-eyed logic about 'the TRNC only regards us as visitors, so why should we pay?'.

Who am I to argue? But I don't have much sympathy if they lose out.



tomsteel


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10/03/2012 08:08

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There is no doubting the fact that expats living here are 'visitors' as defined in my passport stamp year after year. Those who choose to flaunt the TC system by going to the RoC and returning for a 90 day stamp risk incurring the wrath of the Immigration Dept and fouling the system for all expats. Most tourists are here for a maximum of 14 days so it may well be the TC Government will introduce this as the norm and it is not renewable concurrently.



Geoff1131


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10/03/2012 08:27

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Why dont the government impliment a visa system whereby say the first 14 days are free, then a one month visa is charged at 50 lira and a 2 month visa is 100 lira. If they did this it would stop the border hopping as it would be cheaper to go for temperary residence and it would get revenue for the country. I am sure anyone coming to visit for more than 2 weeks would be willing to pay the visa fee so as to stay legal and avoid the hassle of obtaining the residency.



billywiz


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10/03/2012 10:31

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message6 that sound like a lot of sense, but hay we are in northern cyprus afterall



judyr


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10/03/2012 10:40

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What happens in this scenario: Residency expires 31 March but am flying from Ercan to UK on 7 April. Will I be ok to leave the renewal until after the visa stamp following my return, approx 1 week? Alternatively if i were to go to the South before expiry and then fly out.



Woodspeckie


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10/03/2012 12:42

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Geoff1131 I wouldn't be happy paying 100 tl for the two of us when we are there for only 4 weeks in Dec. each year as a tourist.



babyheritage


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10/03/2012 12:49

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judyr



Yes thats another query, what if temporary residence expires when you are away. How do you cover yourself upon your return.



tomsteel


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10/03/2012 12:53

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Adopt the TRNC mother country system. All non TCs pay 10/15 for 90 day visa. Those wishing to stay longer - apply for 'visitor' status temporary residency or a work permit as appropriate. Deport those cheating the system with a 3 year 'do not return caveat' back to their country of origin.



waddo


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Message Posted:
10/03/2012 14:15

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tomsteel, If you notice how when they change the rules/laws in Turkey that it follows suit in the TRNC within a couple of years, I think that this is well on the cards for the future! There is a bit more to it than you have written as well as "currently" non Turkish can have two consecutive 90 day visa's but then must leave the country for not less than 90 days before returning. There was also something about leaving the country for more than 180 days in a two year period but I never bothered to read that bit.



Interested/concerned should browse through the ex pats in Turkey sites as there is loads of information there that is - with the current state of the "peace" talks - liable to happen here anyway.



tomsteel


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10/03/2012 14:23

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Msg 12, so noted - thanks for the correction. If the TRNC Government is so hell-bent on this issue, introduce a measure to stop it happening is my view.



Groucho



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10/03/2012 14:31

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babyheritage

You are fine if it runs out while you are away as long as you return within 90 days and start the renewal - if you are away longer you go back to square one - which is not that far back, as permanent residency seems to have been withdrawn.



judyr


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10/03/2012 17:31

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So message 14 in my scenario (message 8) my residency expires 31 March and I fly out on 7 April. Will there be a problem at the airport if it has expired and wait until I return? What I am trying to avoid is another Xray having had my fair quota in the last 4 years. Alternatively I would renew without question if there is any way that I can request an injection for TB and I don't care how much more it costs. Thanks



Groucho



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10/03/2012 18:20

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Yes, you will be fined per day for allowing your residency to expire I think.



judyr


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10/03/2012 18:30

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So if I were to go across the border before it expires will that cover me or will the original residency stamp take precidence?



Groucho



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10/03/2012 20:48

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You can cross the border to extend an expiring residency when you have already applied for renewal and it's not through....but I don't believe they are happy to do this when you haven't applied for renewal. When you come back you might find a hefty fine is levied.. :(



Jovial_John


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10/03/2012 21:22

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judyr - if you let your residency expire without applying for a renewal then you will be fined when you leave. When you return then you will get a normal visitor visa for 90 or 30 days within which period you can apply for residency again. The only question is whether or not you must start the residency process at the beginning.



However, as I understand it, you should anyway start the application process 2 weeks before the current one expires and once you have applied you are covered - even if it is a month or more before you collect your new permit. If you intend to travel before the renewed permit is ready then they give you a stamp to say you have applied and you are covered until you return. That was the rule 2 years ago anyway because I did it. However, as the rules change so frequently I suggest you go to your local immigration department and ask - or the main immigration department at Lefkosa where you would collect your new permit.



Groucho



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10/03/2012 22:00

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Yes they do change, as I understand it now, if your residency is not through and you want to leave you must go to the border on the date of expiry to get a visa stamp.



Sideways



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Message Posted:
10/03/2012 23:29

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I let my temp residency expire because I was selling my property and saw no reason to renew it.

I travelled back and forth to the U.K. without any problems or fines after it had expired.

On entering Ercan they just stamped a 90 day visa in the passport after looking at all the expired temp residency stamps.



judyr


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Message Posted:
11/03/2012 08:51

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Thank you for your help. I think I will renew before it expires for peace of mind and hope that I am one of the lucky ones that get sent to a lab and don't habe to have an x-Ray



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