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the butler


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11/03/2012 11:13

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Hi can anyone reccomend a good surgeon to remove a gallbladder and the approximate cost for this operation?



I have a very large stone which is now causing me a lot of pain, so it is time do something about it.



maria1


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To have the whole gall bladder is quite a big operation. They now tend to do key hole surgery and the recovery is very quick. Normally all being well you are out within 48 hours. Pricing here tends to vary. I suggest you ask for a quote from Medikent, and other private hospitals. If you have residency you may be able to have it done at the main hosiptal. Get advice from a GP. Once it has been done you can enjoy spicy food and red wine again and never suffer from any pain. Good luck, hope you feel better soon.



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I'll have a go if you like, have a leatherman.



MrsSnakes



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Msg 1, I have a gallstone (2x1cm) which was picked up from ultra sound at medikent in Nov 2010 on a routine health check. This did explain problems with digestion and pain etc. The Doctor wanted to take my gall bladder out there and then, trying to pin him down for a price was difficult, I declined and left. There is a procedure to remove the stone itself by an op via the mouth to the intestine. Also there are drugs that can disperse stones. Some people do a liver flush which expells sludge and stones sucessfully. Diet/food intake is a key factor to keep pain under control. Apple juice helps soften the stones. There are reports that some people still suffer from problems after the gall bladder is removed, for many, it solves the problem. There is an enormous amount of information on the internet that is useful and alternative to medical procedure. To date, I try and manage without an operation. Kind regards, Mrs Snakes.



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10 years ago we were staying at Jasmine Court and a man was rushed to hospital as an emergency (Lefkosia State Hospital) He had his gallbladder removed very successfully and within 5 days was back at the hotel.



He came back the following year just to go and thank the surgeon who he was so grateful to, his care was exemplary he told us.



Mine was removed before keyhole abdominal surgery was being done. Believe me, I know the agony of the pain, do not worry about getting rid of the wretched thing. I felt that I had been given my life back when I recovered. I remember the nurse asking me if I needed anything for pain after surgery and my reply was...pain? yes a bit but nothing compared to before the surgery so no thanks!



Best wishes to you for a speedy recovery.



Go for it!



rollinbones


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11/03/2012 12:40

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Near ast hospital is fantastic, by far the best on the Island..... Very reasonably priced too.....



the butler


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Thank you for all your replies, I have known for several years that I have a gallstone and it is large but as it did not cause me any pain I have resisted surgery. My sister had hers removed about 5 years ago and she had complications after the operation and this is another reason why I have resisted surgery. The pain is now effecting my daily life and I have cut out all foods that I know used to cause pain in the past. I eat a mostly vegetarian diet and I don't drink anymore. I will contact a couple of hospitals tomorrow for prices.

Mrs snakes, I have looked on the internet for information and agree with what you say, I think my stone is too big to flush out, if there is a way of breaking them down first then it is worth giving this a go, otherwise I could run the risk of it getting stuck in the billery duct.



The butlers wife



stevew


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11/03/2012 14:15

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400 tl. lefkosa state hospital, key hole, good job, Dr. tarik



the butler


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stevew,





400tl are you sure that is all it is? You can't have a tooth out in London for that. Sounds like it should be 4000tl Do you have the tel no for Dr Tarik, so I can call him tomorrow.



stevew


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11/03/2012 15:44

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400 tl two years ago, state hospital, ring me ill tell you about it !!0533 8314406



CarrieRBag



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Do not delay Butler's wife. Had mine removed about 6 years ago (in Germany) as an emergency having been mis-diagnosed for months. My gall bladder was too big for keyhole and I know have an 8ins scar. 29 stiches (several of which were left in). Go get it done ASAP.



tonycar


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This is just my opinion:



I would not let any one of these doctors near me, I do not trust them at all. People have been told they have serious problems and upon 2nd opinion there has been nothing wrong with them. Have your treatment in your own country.



canada


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11/03/2012 19:58

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my wife had it out last year in a private clinic in the south and they are the best on the whole island

the doctor did thousands of this surgeries ,she had a private room and went in the morning out by noon the next day ,he made 3 small holes and barely any scars now and no complications .the clinic was spotlessly clean and the nurses never left her side ,cost was 2300 euro but well worth it.



the butler


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Msg 12,



I was told 6 years ago in the UK I had a gallstone and have just had another scan here which has revealed the pain I am experiencing is from the gallstone. If I went back to the UK I would have to pay for the surgery there. ( I don't know how expats manage to go back to the Uk and get treatment on the national health) I could not afford the operation in the UK as we are retired and living on our pensions. msg 13 which hospital are you referring to in the south. The cost seems ok to me and if as you say the hospital was spotless and the surgeon good, then it is worth making enquiries.





The butlers wife



stellasstar1



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The hospital that I used in the South (for my back) was Aretagion Hospital telephone 0035722200426 Superb hospital and treatment, very reasonable and spotless. Don't think you can call on a TRNC mobile, it has to be from a landline, or your English mobile, equally they can only call us here on our landline, not on our mobile phones.



tonycar


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Msg 14, what price do you put on your health?



If I may just add, if you were in the UK and went to the hospital in pain you would get treatment, what do you think they would do, turn you away!



tonycar


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The only professional medical establishment that turns people away is the private cosmetic companies, for example if you had a PIP implant and had the procedure done in one of these private clinics/hospitals, you are in trouble.



japeal



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Whatever it costs if you can afford it have it done.



My Gallbladder burst even though I had never had a gallstone problem that I knew about when in Egypt on a visit in 2000, they operated over 7 hours to save my life and hoovered up from within my stomach over 300 little gall stones ,12 yrs ago but at the same time they caught my intestine and caused a hernia which was operated on in UK 11yrs ago but was not unsuccessfull. I am overweight, but the hernia is now the size of a rugby ball! In UK they will not operate, over here Medikent quoted 10K cannot afford it so just have to live with it.



Agobard


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Message 12: can't believe these ill informed and biased comments. I have lived here for many years and have had to deal with a number of specialists here who treated my late husband. Without doubt, they were all extremely professional and caring. There was never a time when we considered going to the UK for treatment and, I speak as somebody who always had private treatment in the UK so I do know decent medical treatment when I see it.



nurseawful



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I agree 100% with message 19 at the end of the day you will hear good and bad stories about different hospitals only you can decide. Good Luck



Chris



MrsSnakes



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Japeal, not a lot I can say but I am sorry that you have to live with that, it must be so uncomfortable for you.

The Butler, perhaps you will come back to us with your findings and let us know your progress. I hope you get the help you need soon. Regards. Mrs Snakes.



japeal



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Thank you MrsSnakes am still a happy person, but at times uncomfortable but life goes on.



tonycar


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japeal, my o/h has a hernia and he weighed 17 stone, he was told to lose a stone and a half and they will operate, they won't operate if weight is an issue because the procedure could rupture again.



Medikent will operate regardless because if it is unsuccessful they have had their money anyway. Think about it.



japeal



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Tonycar,



I did lose 5 stone at one point, but they still would not operate as they say it is too big.

They did operate 11 years ago on it, but within 48 hours it was back to the hernia. I went to York Hospital Jan last year, as the surgeon came in he had the paperwork in his hand and said that he could sort it, then he came in front of me took one look and said as he could not promise I would survive the Op he said no he would not operate. Pity really, as if I did not wake from an op I would not know I had not survived. Yes my family would be upset though!



jock1



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I have had the contents of my wallet removed here a few times....



tonycar


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japeal, that is a real shame, clearly the surgeon at York hospital was concerned, Medikent clearly were not. I understand how you feel with what you said as well.



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tonycar. Have you had treatment at Medikent and had something go wrong? if not how can you be so critical about it just from hearsay.



tonycar


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Woodspeckie that is my business not yours!



PhilUK


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12/03/2012 21:37

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I heard that they can be got rid of via high frequency radio waves-I'm not an expert,its just what I've read about.



the butler


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If that is the case msg29 why don't hospitals do this instead of costly surgery involving several days in hospital?



Why was I not offered this 6 years ago when first diagnosed?











The butlers wife



flowerfairy


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My daughter has had gallstones removed, I have been treated for stomach ulcers, my husband broke his back and his heel, all of us were treated by surgeons over here.

We were all dealt with with the utmost efficiency and care at Medikent, now Cyprus life. Even though the name has changed, I think most specialist surgeons remain the same, (Nurseawfull, I'm sure will clarify this)

Also,my three month old grandaughter had brochial pnemonia last year, and was rushed into Girne state hospital.

just before Christmas. Although we weren't staying in what is like a four star hotel, the treatment was very caring and efficient. My daughter now uses the doctor as her pediatrition.



Mess 1, I hope this gives you some faith with the treatment over here.

Getcmis ollson



nurseawful



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tonycar,



Medikent no longer exists is the hospital you are referring Cyprus Life? If so the General Manager says can you please refer your concerns directly to him. Telephone 0392 680 8080.



Chris



tonycar


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msg 32, why are you so determined to involve yourself in something that doesn't concern you.



nurseawful



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tonycar,



Unlike you I have been a patient in the hospital and speak as I find. Also organizing mens health and womens health weeks there for the last 3 years I would say I can speak with some authority on how this hospital works.



But can i ask why you are hell bent on blackening the name of a place that to my knowledge and on your own admission on another thread you have never been a patient of?



Chris



PhilUK


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the ultrasound method I referred to is detailed here-

http://www.mydr.com.au/pain/gallstones-treatment



Pipie


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Must admit all of the hospital care of family and friends that have had both private and free hospital care has been all positve good feedback, over the last 6 years this has been over well over 13 seperate cases !!



japeal



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Treatment from Medikent is very good, I do not knock their services, just in my opinion only, think they are expensive.



The treatment the do is very good, I had a knee operation 2 years ago and staff and doctors were all very very good.



flowerfairy


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Again, from experience, it isn't ''cheap'' to have treatment in Cyprus life, as far as I remember, it is less expensive than private care in UK. But you are staying in what is like a four star hotel.

If you need a surgeon, the actual price is the same as it would be in the state hospital. It's the extra's that bump the price up, but that's the price you pay for comfort.



the butler


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PhilUK msg msg35,



Thanks for the link to information of breaking up gallstones but if you read it carefully, it explains that it is only suitable for small stones. My stone is very large and can only be removed by surgery. I am going to contact 2 surgeons today and will keep you updated as to what I decide.





The butlers wife



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I realise this is a very serious and informative thread but cant help a little giggle when i click on it. Up flashes an advert for Valentines Removals an unusual range of services ha ha



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