Byrak radio, problems

graycoul


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 493

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 16:02

everytime i tune my car radio into byrak and drive in the alsancak/escape beach area it keeps changing to ADA radio so eventually i gave up thinking it was my car stereo, then it happene in 2 rentals cars and yesterday in my mates brand new car just as we ent past ADA hotel.

has this happened to anyone else??



Byrak can you put out a stronger signal or do something, or ill carry on listening to fog radio.

while on on the byrak subject, cant you play music suitable for the average expat age rather than for teenages at a rave because they dont listen anyway

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 17:08

Hi Graham,

Bayrak transmits on various frequencies, so it may be worth re-tuning:

Bayrak Radyo 1 - 90.6 & 102.0 MHz

Bayrak FM - 98.1, 92.1 & 94.2 MHz

Bayrak International - 87.8 & 105.0 MHz

Bayrak Klasik - 93.4, 88.4 & 102.5 MHz

Bayrak Turk Musik - 94.6 MHz only - but I presume you're not listening to that racket - Joke! Joke! - Honest!

graycoul


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 493

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 17:10

thanks keith i just use 105.0 il try the others

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 17:19

Graham,

Do let me know how you get on - The Bayrak International transmitter at Seviltepe only puts out 5KW of power on 105.0 MHz, while the one at Kantara is double the power at 10KW on 87.8 MHz - of course it's a lot farther away...

Anyway, keep me posted please...

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 17:27

You are not missing much by not receiving Bayrak. It is about time they got their backsides into gear. I am not really quite sure (and I don't think they know) who they think their target audience is.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 17:59

@ msg 2, Keithcaley: For programmes in the English language: do you happen to know the specs of the nearest transmitter to Alsancak (Yeşiltepe) and the frequency?

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 18:14

Thank god I am the right side of the mountains and can get BFBS2. I like radio and I like it to be professional.



I am also grateful for having an internet radio

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 18:41

Hans,

I'm not sure of the answer to your question, as I don't know the names of the programmes transmitted from Yesiltepe.

There are another 29 Stations listed in addition to the ones I mentioned previously.

I've scanned the relevant page of WRTH 2012, and parked it here: -



http://yorkie.host56.com/images/TRNC%20Radio%20Transmitter%20frequencies.jpg



Now you know as much as I do

Well - more really, 'cos there's all that stuff that you already knew as well...

It's quite a large jpeg, - I didn't want to compress it too much as it's tiny print - if you find it difficult to read, you can borrow the book

If you find it difficult to comprehend - join the club

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 18:49

@ msg 8, Keithcaley: (...) @ msg 2, Keithcaley: For programmes in the English language: do you happen to know the specs of the nearest transmitter to Alsancak (Yeşiltepe) and the frequency? (...)



▶ Sorry Keith, I caused you unnecessary work! I meant to ask "For programmes in the English language from Radio Bayrak".

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 18:50

yenibob,

I'm with you on this - I've got an old laptop whose sole task is to stream Radio 4.

I've hooked the headphone output up to a 'cheapo', low power FM transmitter (the sort that you can buy to listen to your 'iPod' on the car radio) so that it broadcasts Radio 4 around the house, which is really good as I can listen on any radio in any room.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 19:08

Hans, msg 9,

I think that we're back to my response in msg 4: -

The Bayrak International transmitter at Seviltepe only puts out 5KW of power on 105.0 MHz, while the one at Kantara is double the power at 10KW on 87.8 MHz - of course it's a lot farther away...

It's worth mentioning that Bayrak International claim to broadcast (24Hrs) in Greek/English/Arabic & German

They do broadcast on the Medium waveband as well, on 1098 kHz from Iskele, using 2 x 50KW !!! transmitters - though that is listed as Turkish language - I've never listened to it, so I can't confirm

Of course if you've got a shortwave radio, you've got other options ('though not Bayrak)

I must confess that I find the internet to be the easy option these days, though it will be sad to see AM transmissions cease, they've served us well since Guglielmo Marconi set up shop

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 19:11

Cheers, Keith!

yenibob


Joined: 13/10/2010
Posts: 1203

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 19:13

Keith, I use one of these, great anywhere around the house/garden.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SANSUI-WTR-100-WI-FI-FM-INTERNET-POCKET-RADIO-/350547546462?pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_PortableAudio_Radios&hash=item519e43115e#ht_500wt_1156

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 19:15

keith

Not really on topic I know but do you have any shortwave receivers?

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 19:29

I will pass all your comments on to BRT tomorrow and ask the technical department to respond as well.



Thanks for drawing attention to the problem. Denise Phillips

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 19:57

yenibob,

that looks amazing - and a damned site cheaper and easier than dedicating a load of other kit to the job (unless you have it already - please don't look in my shed )

Thanks for that!

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 20:00

AJ,

I'll have a rummage round...

horselover48


Joined: 09/09/2010
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 20:13

Message 15 RadioAngel sorry but agree with message 5 as whenever I listen to Bayrack some awful stuff is playing, which I think, although dont know for sure, would sound more at home in a nightclub. I expect this is the result of no real audience survey figures being available as to target audience and just points towards DJ preferences. Its hardly ideal and think there would be heads rolling if they had survey figures available especially as they claim to target the "expat" audience. I am sure you have been to the majority of ex pat bars etc considering your time here am surprised you have not brought this to their attention ? Its just bloody awful and cant imagine ANY expats listening to it at all sorry.

westender


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 328

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 20:56

I think that the reading of articles from magazines (sometimes very badly) should be banned and some of the presenters need to perfect their English before being allowed on a radio staion geared to expats. As to the music, mmmm, sometimes I have to mute it, I can't bear the rap style stuff they play - a lot.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 21:37

westender



'presenters need to perfect their English before being allowed on a radio staion geared to expats.'



But that is the problem. They are not sure of who their target audience is or who they need to be targeting. They need a major shake up and they need to do some research about who their intended audience needs to be and what that intended audience want from their transmissions.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 22:32

westender,

I have every sympathy with your sentiments - I often feel that although the pronunciation is usually fine, the rhythm & inflexion are frequently 'Off'.

Also, I think that they may be reading 'literal transcripts' of Turkish language articles - the repetitive use of full names and titles is an indicator - so that even tho' they get the Grammar sorted out reasonably well, it still doesn't come sounding 'normal' to a native English speaker - to me, it sounds rather stilted and quaint.

But! - it does remind me that I'm not in England, that I am actually in a Foreign Country, and that the inhabitants are, at least, making some sort of effort to accommodate my deficiencies re. their language. And make as to mistake in my message - it is OUR deficiency, not theirs.

I have no doubt that the quality of English Language Broadcasting in TRNC will improve, & I congratulate all involved for their efforts, but did we come here to live in 'Little England'?



I didn't!

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 23:00

I'm sorry for the spelling, grammatical and syntactical errors in the last post - if I were an MP I would claim to be 'Tired and Emotional'

As it is, I'm going to bed...

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
22/03/2012 23:44

Denise



In light of the remarks about the quality of presenters on Bayrak radio you may want to ask around as I have heard that there are several national and international quality British presenters and even a station manager now residing in TRNC.

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 00:03

Hi GinaC I note your comments the comments ...However I am but a lowly worker at BRT not the hirer and firer ! But I do know that all input is most gratefully received.



Why not email your comments ( all posters ) to bayrakinterbrt2@yahoo.com ?



This will get to the people at the top who need to know the expats thoughts on the radio transmission.



Thanks

Denise x

Amber


Joined: 26/09/2008
Posts: 561

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 12:55

Yes have to agree with a lot of others on here about the choice of music being played. Find it quite hard being eased into the start of the day while listening to rap and rave music !!

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 13:00

Well not one person has sent their thoughts via email yet to the contact address I gave.... The powers that be do not read Cyprus44, however hard that might be to believe ! D x

cyprusgiant


Joined: 08/07/2009
Posts: 467

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 19:00

There are 2 ex-pats that present shows on Bayrak International, Mike Schofield presents his Juke Box Show every Sunday morning at 10am, and I present the Soul Train on Saturday's at 10am.



However, we are not allowed to broadcast 'live' on air, so all shows are pre-recorded.



Max.....

horselover48


Joined: 09/09/2010
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 20:19

Cyprusgiant, please dont forget our very own Denise Phillips (RadioAngel) I am sure she was/is an expat at some time.

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 20:26

Thanks horselover....indeed.



I arrived here on April Fools day 1980 and didnt think I would last the week......now coming up to my 32 year anniversary !



Don't forget please email your comments/thoughts to bayrakinterbrt2@yahoo.com . They will be read with much interest by the people in charge of the transmission and replied to.







Denise x

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 22:13

MSG 27



Why do the shows have to be prerecorded, live radio is much better if the presenters are up to it ?

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 22:17

Denise MSG 24



I will speak to those mentioned to see if any of them are interested in carrying on in their profession as I think most expats may appreciate it rather than automation and amateurs.

magalan


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 227

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 22:21

As Cyprusgiant / Max pointed out, both he and Mike Schofield present very professional pre-recorded music progs on Bayrak Radio. I have been told by Can Gazi that non-Cypriots are not allowed to broadcast live on Bayrak, and I can personally vouch that the content of any pre-recorded programme is subject to extremely stringent editing on behalf of Bayrak Radio's political masters. Given that information, Bayrak is best left to its own devices...............

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 22:26

Hi GinaC To be employed at BRT you need to have Turkish Cypriot citizenship and as such we are the voice of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.



Bayrak International radio is just one English language transmission. We have many other channels all broadcasting in Turkish. We also transmit in Arabic, Greek and German.



Max and Mike are not employed by BRT just provide their programmes for free for two hour long slots a week which is why they are pre recorded.



Denise x

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 22:28

We broadcast 24 hours a day and the majority of the programmes are in live transmission. D x

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 22:34

RadioAngel

Are interviews with non Cypriot Turks recorded or are they allowed to go out live and if they are 'live' is there any time lag?

RadioAngel


Joined: 21/01/2012
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/03/2012 22:40

Hi AJ



I and my colleagues do both live and prerecorded iinterviews with both Turkish Cypriots and any other nationality, as long as they speak English ! We have no delay button on live transmission.