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ces88


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Have been told it would be an idea to purchase 3 in 1 dog collar for fleas/sandflies/ticks when i get my dog however been unable to locate one in TRNC so far, have tried Girne Pet Centre and pet shop by Green Gardens. Any ideas as to where i can get one?

Thanks

ces88



fire starter


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our vet researched these collar for us in the uk, before coming here.

the company admitted that they were not much good and wouldn't keep away all they claimed.

plus they were very expensive.

i am at present looking into a product sold in the uk called advantix 40.

which is like a front line and claims to stop fleas,ticks,sand flies,mosquitos and stable flies.

i have just contacted the company and will be getting my uk vet also to do so, to check this out.

the catalogue i have been given is not clear on the costs,ect.

i will post my findings, when i get some replies.



ces88


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thats very helpful firestarter, if you could let me know what you find out it would be much appreciated!

thanks

ces88



BILLY


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I use frontline which you can buy at most chemist shops. Its expensive but it does work.



joandjelly


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How much do you pay at the Chemist Billy and how long does it last?



ces88


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is it effective against sanflies aswell?



fire starter


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front line is not covering sand flies, but this new product says it does.

not that i believe it untill my uk vet confirms it.

it is sold by vet-medic

have a look here.www.vet-medic.com

someone gave me the catalogue recently.



lulubell


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hi firestarter we use advantix and have done since lullibell was born,we lived in italy and also had problem with sandflies there,advantix even though applied monthly is only effective against sandflies for 14 days which means we were actually giving lullibell 2 doses a month.unfortunately there doesnt seem to be any other treatment that i have come across for sandflies.i must say in lullibell it did work and luckily she never got bitten...could be that she was so heavily dosed with advantix .but i would definately recommend it.



fire starter


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thanks lullubell

that is nice to know from someone who has used it.

all the products make claims which are not totally true in my experience.

just like when our vet spoke with the company regarding these collars.

they had to fess up,lol.

we have been using frontline and don't seem to have a problem, but it doesn't state sandflies, only flees and ticks.

the ticks in cyprus are monsters and we have occasionally found them on our dogs even though we frontline once a month.



joandjelly


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Hi FS, when you say you use Frontline is this the product name that you buy at a chemist here? We always take our dog to the vet and he uses a product called Fipronex Duo Drop On which is for veterinary use only and costs us 50ytl a time (every 3 months). It works very well for fleas and ticks and also (apparently) controls louse and mange but not sure how the cost compares with Frontline.



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hi joandjelly

i haven't heard of that produce because i always get my frontline from the uk.

yes its the products name.

with three dogs to dog it cost an arm and a leg. they need doing every month.

but i love my babys, its only money after all.

funny thing is my uk vet now has our kangal registered lol.



ces88


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joandjelly what do you do for your dogs regarding sandflies or does the one the vet give work on those too?

i have seen the sprays/drops that they sell in trnc for fleas and sandflies has anyone heard about or tried these?

thanks, ces88



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our dogs don't seem to have a problem and we use frontline.



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I've not noticed a problem with sandflies. What would the symptoms be?



fire starter


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i think they are like mozzie bites and can make people quite ill, i don't know the effects regarding dogs and their immune systems.

all my dogs have been well since being here( except my giant schnauzer who had laringitus, which was quick to clear up with anti biotics.)



ces88


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Have been told sandflies can be lethal, even kill dogs - i know they can make humans very ill. Was advised about the collars by a lady at KAR who says she uses them.

Bit confused now as i know every dog is different and some people are saying their dogs are ok but obviously don't want to risk anything??



joandjelly


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I'm well aware of the affects of sandflies having suffered from sandfly fever in 2007 - not a very pleasant experience at all!! The trouble is that symptoms in humans seem to differ so I was wondering how dogs might be affected. We have our house and garden sprayed once a year by Frog Pest Control to guard against all sorts of insects and creepy crawlies which really seems to help and we regularly spray inside our dog's kennel. It cost us £50 last year and is completely safe for pets.



ces88


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thanks for that joandjelly



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I understand that you want to keep your pet safe from bites etc but blanket killing of all insects is not very good for either the garden, or frogs, lizards and birds. I prefer to just spray my dog with frontline and let nature take it's course outside..............



fire starter


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yes joandjelly

i think spraying your garden and kennels keeps most things at bay.

we get a spray from a guy at the local gov, who goes out spraying for them.

it is very expensive but at least once a week we do the whole garden and kennels.

we also do the house around the doors and windows.



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Dogs are affected by sand fly bites and suffer can suffer serious skin and eye problems. Collars are for sale at most of the vets....around 25 TL



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swyflot

can you give us the brand name of these collars?

so i can check them out with my uk vet.



ces88


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thanks for that swyflot, aswell as brands could you tell us what vet you get them from as the Girne Vet Clinic only had tablets.

ces88



ces88


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have just found out that the collars don't go on sale until february in TRNC so will find out more when i can see the instructions that will hopefully be sold with them!



Kitty1


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Hi all,



Last year we bought a collar from our vet (Firdes in Girne) and found it to be very effective. It was 25 ytl and he wore it for 3 months before we changed it. During that time we didn't see anything on him, so it clearly kept things at bay.



The primary reason for us switching to the collar from Frontline is, as may of you have rightly said, Frontline does not work against sandflies. A sandfly bite for a dog can prove deadly because dogs can contract a disease called LEISHMANIA from sandflies, for which the prognosis is very grim indeed. I've researched this and it is not something I would want to happen to my dog or in fact any dog.



The collars are currently available as my friend has literally just got a new one for her dog.



Tbl62


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The collar is called PARABAND and according to KAR goes on sale in FEB @ 25tl for fleas, sandflies and ticks

It will be available for sale from Vets



tbl62



ces88


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Thanks kitty1, really helpful. These obviously do work against all 3 ticks, sandflies and fleas as i have been told too? Is 3 months the standard time for how long it lasts?

ces88



ces88


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Kitty1, do you know if they are the Paraband collars and where abouts in Girne is Firdes?

Thanks ces88



Kitty1


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Not sure of the brand sorry, I really can't remember off the top of my head. Firdes' surgery is just off the road behind the Pia Bella hotel. There is a "Antique" furniture shop with a small side road right next to it. Firdes is up there.



ces88


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Thanks kitty1, will ask my mum to have a look!!



rowan


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firestarter, am interested to know the breeding of your gian schnauzer, is it black or salt and pepper



Chicken Run


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My dog has a West Ham UTD collar. This is a four in one collar... it keeps all the fleas/sandflies/ticks... and SPURS fans away!! ;o)



Lilli



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hi ces88 we bought ours south side and sio far they have worked. didnt know about sandfly though thanks kitty. we will replace with the new ones now.



fire starter


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hi rowan

she is a pepper and salt, called rose.

do you have a giant rowan?

brought her here from the uk with us.



checked out these collar with our vet mustafa at gonyeli who does have them for sale now.

for his own dogs he uses them but along side frontline.

he was saying that some years here can be a lot worse than others when the dogs can be plagued with ticks ect.



nigelh


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Hi folks,

just read this thread and am a bit worried about my dogs, now!

What form does leishmania take - i.e. what should I look out for?

cheers

Nigel



itsadogslife


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the dog collar is called scalibor our dogs had these in the uk and have purchased them from firdez BAKACI 0533 866 38 06. for the last 18 months.



DutchCrusader



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You can find all about the dangers of sand flies for dogs here:



http://tinyurl.com/cl7ant



craig2536


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Unfortunately my dog , a two year old german shepherd bitch had to be put to sleep a couple of weeks ago after being bitten and infected by sandflies. Symptons were a runny nose, red eyes and sores on her skin. A heartbreaking experience for me. If you can find something to protect your dog , use it. I was using frontline and thought it was enough.



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I'm really sorry about your dog Craig , this is only a thought , but what about applying citronella to the collar i know mosquito's don't like it , but i don't know about sand flies , it might be worth a try ,

Regards , Simbas



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