Only post claptrap

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:24

Well we are only allowed to talk about stupid stuff on here, like telling jokes that degrade women or asking how to get hold of a plumber...



There is no democracy on this BB at all...



This is the second serious subject to have been closed down that I started...what a joke!

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:31

Lets just gloss over the serious stuff Simbas, lets let the idiots take over the asylum.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:34

DC4..If you were to stop all your insults to other posters you might have a little more success.Peopleare allowed there point of view but you seem to think every body should agree with your points of view,and if we dont weare called various names from idiots to un educated morons. then when you are loosing the argument we start to to get the behaviour of some spoilt child throwing a tantrum. try behaving in an adult manner and people will treat you as an adult...

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:40

DC4---You are taking it all too seriously ,we are all susposed to be doing this for enjoyment.

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:42

DC4



Why dont you give up, it would seem you are deliberately trying to provoke people with your emotive threads (ie: Madeline McCann, Kar, Israel).



Everyone is entitled to their own point view, but sometimes best kept to themselves.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:42

DC4....seriously...vote with your feet if this place is no longer for you.

Or...contribute in a POSITIVE way to make it a better place.



Don't just have a protracted,lingering martyrdom on here.

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 606

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:43

UDHR

Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.



Dee, you have every right to an opinion and freedom of expresion (removed by Simbas) as do all others, but by being 'person specific' it becomes 'personal' insults, though I have to say nothing you said would upset me, I guess it's just a question of personal proportionality.

Everyone reacts differently to certain (and different) things, i.e. people thought they were insulted, Simbas (rightly or wrongly) thought the thread should be stopped, at the end of the day people can only make the judgement they see appropriate with the information or knowledge available at the time.

Better to stick to insulting everyone collectively I think, but if you need to vent, aim it at me as I assure you I am beyond insult.

Keep posting

Brian

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:45

I must say that this one of the more "placid" forums I have visited, and I was very surprised that some of the threads regarding Israel have been closed!! Amongst so many differing views, by our very own "human" nature, sometimes personal things are said in the heat of the moment. I think some here are just a little over-sensitive? After all, when one starts name calling surely their argument is then lost anyway? And for everyone else, a lively and passionate discussion closed to one and all!!



A quote, attributed to Voltaire sums it up:



"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"



And the answer? Just show a little respect to one another!!!

Static-X


Joined: 18/12/2008
Posts: 197

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 13:49

I think that we should be able to edit our own post's after posting.....It would solve a lot of problems . .

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:01

Posts 7 and 8 very well said.

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:04

Is this the same person who posted an abhorrent new thread having a go at Wyn????????????????



Surely not although I fear the title of this thread sums it all up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:12

Message number 3,

Well said coachie summed up perfectly, Let her go and spout her filth somewhere else Good Riddance..........

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:19

Karakum of course I am taking it seriously, the deaths of thousands of innocent muslims by a warmongering nation is IMHO extremely serious, altho I seem to be in the minority with my views...I trust all who support the Israeli's in their vengeance against the muslims of Palestine and the Lebanon and anyone else who attempts to prevent them from dominance will sleep with an easy conscience when innocent babies are dying while I type!!!!





Thanks to Brian and joandjelly for your support..bye now.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:24

Dee....this is obviously a subject you feel very passionately about.

However,i would question whether a Cyprus themed messageboard is the place to do it.

There must be thousands of relevant websites out there where you can vent your spleen and hurl insults at those who disagree with your views.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:26

This is a muslim country or have you overlooked that and it is muslims that are being targeted...I have always stood up for the underdog and always will unlike most who post on here

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:28

Forgive me ,but I saw no reason to delete the thread .If we are going to have threads deleted because the subject is taboo or some dont like the views held,then please do it right at the start rather than have us wasting time posting,and state why.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:31

Dee.....you are digging a bigger hole.



It is not muslims that are being targetted...it is Hamas.



I am no apologist for Israel,but if they wanted to target muslims per se they could launch their rockets all over the Middle East.

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 606

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:33

The middle east is full of muslim countries Dee, none are exactly rushing to the aid of Hamas.

I think the problem here is you are concerned about the Palastinian people, which is commendable, however, the present tiff is aimed at the [internationally described as] terrorist orgianisation Hamas, and people are confusing your concern for the Palistinians with concern for the support of Hamas, perhaps if you condemed the launching of rockets into Israel during a cease fire it would help your cause.

Also if you accepted that it may be in the longer term interest of the people of Palestine if Hamas were removed, because if they were, I am confident this small dust up would cease.

Anyhow, better do it soon before this thread gets closed out too.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:35

Hamas are muslims and it is not only Hamas that are being targetted..cronos if you can't even understand that then is little hope!



The Gaza is tiny and 1 million plus ppl live there and you think the Israeli's are only killing Hamas ...wake up and smell the coffee

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:46

Brian I do not 'support' Hamas sending rockets but I do understand their frustration at having to go cap in had to Israel...

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:49

Dee....I don't come onto a Cyprus forum to be spoken to in a patronising and condescending manner by you !



As others have said....take off the blinkers...look at the bigger picture...accept that it's not all black and white....and for God 9(or Allah's ) stop promoting yourself as the bastion of all that is good and the one true voice.



People on here are much more intelligent than you give them credit for,and do not fall under the spell of your 6th Form political rhetoric.

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:49

Only post claptrap:



OK.



It's perfectly reasonable to fire 50, 60 or 70 rockets a day into your neighbours territory and be surprised when after some 6,000 rockets they come to stop you.

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 14:54

By the way. Under the rules of this forum if anyone posts anything but claptrap this thread will be closed down.



Any sensible post will result in the closure of this thread.



Woops, there goes the thread!

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:04

Post deleted as earlier moderation made it irrelevant. No fault of the poster at all.





Harold2555

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:06

"once censorship starts where will it end?"



That's a great line!

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:06

Post deleted as earlier moderation made it irrelevant. No fault of the poster.





Harold 2555

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:09

Post deleted as earlier moderation made it irrelevant. No fault of the poster.











Harold 2555

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:11

Now this is getting truly silly.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:13

Clearly this is a very emotive but topical subject in which a variety of views are being expressed. No one wishes to close down this thread as it is obvious that many members are genuinely concerned and angry about the loss of life in this region and are therefore taking an active interest.

Dee,

some of your posts are without doubt inflammatory and at times do get personal and accusing. If you could debate the issues in a manner that shows respect for others opinions and constructively challenge the differing viewpoints and stop stereotyping whole nations, religions and cultures, then this thread could be one of the more interesting threads, rather than as you say the "clap trap ones".

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:13

Cronos you are free to leave at any time as am I...if you don't like what I say then don't read or respond to it...simple solution.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:16

DC4..If Israel had wanted to exterminate the all the muslims in the middle east they could have done it years ago..they do not want that .All theyare asking the muslims to do is to let them live in peace and they will do likewise.You seem to miss that point,all you can say is about innocent palastinians being murdered by the Israelis.From the inception of the state of Israel it has always been the Arab nations who have started the conflict with Israel. Egypt tried twice, got there buts severely kicked .Syria triedTwice and Jordan likewise.All of those countries now consider it a futile task and have given up direct conflict with Israel so they now continue in an indirect manner by supplying two terrorist organisations to the dirty work for them.I do not see Egypt or Syria rushing to the aid of Hamas,Egypt wont even open there borders with Gaza to allow "innocent civilians" to get out of the conflict,because they do not want Israel to extend the conflict into there country.....

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:19

Dee.....I'm not the one banging on about how bad it is here !



You are.



I like it here thanks....I'm definitely staying.



Thanks for the warm welcome.

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:21

Dee seems to have fallen into the cypertrap of thinking that this is a real place where views actualy matter.



Wake up Dee, this is a virtual place where people come for entertainment and information.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:25

Message 30

At last and long overdue................ Have A Nice Day!!!!!!!

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:27

Dee



At the local coffee shop this morning I was discussing this topic with a few locals. They ALL said that they understood why Israel had done what it has as they themselves had had to respond in the same way many years ago. These people were all Muslim and ALL said Hamas should be "wiped out" as true Muslims did not support terrorism.



If you always support the underdog do I take it you therefore supported the IRA, Al Qaeda, Bader Meinhoff et al?



Perhaps you are the one that need's to "wake up and smell the coffee" to use your own quote!!!!!!!!!

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:28

Harlequin most who post on here do just that...death has always been entertaining.



Just no IMO tho.

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:28

What is going on here?

Hamas is what you dip your pitta bread in isnt it?

There are difficulties everywhere and we all have our own opinions but they do differ.

Can we not just post an opinion and not get slated for it, but have a constructive discussion with qualifications and agree to differ. We have a friendly forum here. Let's keep it that way.

And if I want a plumber I will ask for a plumber. Or a wall builder or whatever. It is an information board after all.



Sir Skogs

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:33

Skogs I have no problem with ppl asking for plumbers etc, christ ask for a number for the local knocking shop for all I care, I was simply using that as an example....



Serious topics are taboo and removed, locked and heavily moderated.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:34

Steady on Whispa, I can be very contagious lol

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:42

Dee

No offense intended my sweets but, “Serious topics are taboo and removed, locked and heavily moderated.”

This isnt a newspaper and we do have the right to use the board as a sort of soapbox but there are limits.

Got the number of the local knocking shop? Well knocking women isnt my thing (in a shop) but worth having in my little black book anyway.

Footballs started.

Bye.

Sir Skogs

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 15:52

RE msg 43, Whispa : (...) otherwise peaceful civilians (there must be some in the Palestinian areas under attack ) are victims trapped between Hamas and Isreal and are paying a terrible price for a battle which they have didn’t start and can’t stop. (...)



===> Just for the record and to stick to the facts: 1) Hamas is the elected power in the Gaza Strip. 2) Most "peaceful civilians" in the Gaza Strip voted for Hamas. 3) Most "peaceful civilians" in the Gaza Strip knew exactly for what kind of political party (with a military wing) they were voting. Hamas wasn't founded a couple of months ago. It's a long standing terrorist organization with two faces (reminds me of the IRA).

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 16:04

Dutch CRusader,.. to Dee those facts are totally irrelevent,although I agree with you.So now I will get the same insults thrown at me that yoiu have received ...

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 16:11

Coachie, I can handle it. The problem is you can fight or ignore insults, but you can't fight stupidity.

MICK THE FISH


Joined: 27/05/2008
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 16:13

Dee,



Msg 15, does this mean you supported the Jews against the Nazis, or supported the Jews against the British Mandate in 1945 ? but now they are not the underdogs you no longer support them ?



Rockets fired at Israel are indiscriminate, at least Israel tries to target the terrorists. (not always with success).

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 16:35

RE msg 49, Whispa : (...) I am not even sure Hamas is an "elected" political party, groups like Hamas usualy take power at the point of a Gun ! (..)



===> Yes, they usually do - but not this time! More here: http://tinyurl.com/8r5wuq

MICK THE FISH


Joined: 27/05/2008
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 16:55

Not every Palestinian Pilot learns how to land either .............

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 16:59

hi deni very well said and brian As always you are so right.xx

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 17:03

RE msg 51, Whispa : Agreed.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 17:25

Whispa ..We al feel sorry for the innocents,but iny armed conflict this happens.Only this morning a female suicide bomber walked into a market in Bagdad and blew her self up and killed 32 innocent people,and injured numerous others.These people are terrorists and they dont care who they kill,innocents or not,and it will continue.Oneof the top Hamas leaders who was killed in an attack was the guy responsible for getting children to be suicide bombers,and Dee thinks these are nice people...

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 17:27

Whispa...msge 57....I thought you meant Shiite !

daveb


Joined: 06/11/2008
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 17:45

for most of you people it is a little too complicated so lets make it a little less for you

someone throws a brick through your window so you then go back and blow up his house

killing him and the rest of his family oh and guess what something else you are all missing america pulls all the strings yours mine and everyone elses

dee i understand your passion

db

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 17:51

daveb, I think if someone threw a brick through your window .........no big deal

But if someone threw 600 rockets at you, you may get a liittle pissed off and want this to stop ?

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 17:58

No solution if the talk is about the right of Jews to take a homeland but ignore that same right for Palestinians.



UK and US, kill hundreds of thousands in Iraq because they didnt obey a UN resolution but dont say boo when Israel ignores about 200 resolutions. Attack Iraq because we accept the lies that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction,but pretend Israel doesnt have piles of nuclear weapons.On that same pretense we might attack Iran,or use US's client state Israel.

Is it essentially because Israelis are basically european and therfore their lives are worth more .



The UK haS a responsibility to mediate, we caused the mess. After all we had no right in the first place to give the land of the Palestinian people to another people.



I said in the deletd thread ,kill my brother,a soldier ,and I accept it.Kill my wife and children and my hatred for you will mean no peace ever, How many terrorist ,brothers, uncles? and me does the childs death make ,and who do we turn to?

Ham

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:01

Allaha Karim.

Allaha shoof Mustaqbal.

Allaha, Allaha.



Sir Skogs

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:05

Daveb many thanks for your support, you will need a tin hat now, verbal bombs heading your way

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:08

daveb



Not complicated at all. Start aggresive action; continue aggressive action; your opponent retaliates. End of story if that's not too difficult for you!!!!

daveb


Joined: 06/11/2008
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:25

dee dont worry about me at 6 foot 4 inches and 18 stone im big and ugly enough to take anything people throw at me and usually do on a normal day at work mostly abusive

db

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:34

lol daveb...I am sure you can take care of yourself as indeed I can...especially this bunch of wimps

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:36

2% of the american population is jewish yet the senate is made up of 10% jewish, need more be said........................

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:42

There you go again Dee with your banal, childish attacks. Just because you lose an argument you act like a 2 year old toddler instead of a grown intelligent adult. or is your vocabulary so limited .Until you learn how to put things into perspective and partake with a modicum of sense I would suggest you simply observe posts without participating as you are rapidly becoming something of a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Whispa



Just the type of post that adds to the debate unlike the banality of some others. Well done

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:42

Preety good money lenders...........

The Knight

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:47

RE msg 63, girne29 : (...) The UK haS a responsibility to mediate, we caused the mess. After all we had no right in the first place to give the land of the Palestinian people to another people. (...)



===> Very annoying when people join threads without knowing the facts. The UK did not give the land of the Palestinians to another people. Israel was created by the United Nations.



The only blame on the UK is that it did everything in its power to frustrate the UN decision. The UK favoured the Arabs in what was to become Israel - as much as possible.



PS. Plenty of books available to learn the facts - one Dee is enough.



PPS. Proof me wrong and name the source(s).

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:53

A couple of slight alterations to a famous poem.



"O you all, go and call the cattle home,

And call the cattle home,

And call the cattle home

Across the cross words of Dee";

The Med' wind was wild and dank with foam,

And all alone went she.



The Northern tide crept up along the sand,

And o'er and o'er the sand,

And round and round the sand,

As far as eye could see.

The rolling mist came down and hid the land:

And never home came she.



"Oh! is it weed, or fish, or floating hair--

A tress of golden hair,

A drownèd maiden's hair

Above the nets at sea?

Was never salmon yet that shone so fair

Among the cross words of Dee."



They rowed her in across the rolling foam,

The cruel crawling foam,

The cruel hungry foam,

To her house beside the sea:

But still the boatmen cant hear her call the cattle home

Across the cross words of Dee.





Should be nice as often as possible, to as many as possible. You just never know.



Sir Skogs

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 18:58

Gibson

Its a question of the extent of the retaliation, How many non combatents do you kill before it becomes counter productive.If you are going to kill women and children willy nilly ,then you must understand the future repercussions from the relatives left behind . Genghiz Khan understood that, and often killed all male survivors in his rear.





Its that easy then .to stop Israel killing my family I wait for the next election and vote Hamas out. Its a bit of a problem who to vote for, If I vote for a moderate then I stay in this hellhole where my children will have no life.But Icant vote for anyone more extreme because there is no guarantee they wouldnt lob missiles at Israel.



Only targetting militants seems a bit hollow bearing in mind the indiscriminate bombing etc by Palestinian extremists has resulted in the deaths of 123 israeli children whereas the highly clinical surgical Israeli strikes has resulted in the deaths of over a 1000 Palestinian children,in the last 8 yea

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 19:04

Whispa ..It is a shame they cant defend there borders in another way but when your neighbour is intent on a path of antagonisation and your destruction you tend to get very annoyed in the end.When you retaliate you get called a bully and other names,but you are so annoyed that you are intent on grinding him into the ground so you can at last have some peace. I for one totally agree with Israels response and in conflict there will always be innocents caught in the middle you will never change that fact....

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 19:04

Could I ask if the roles were to be reversed and the Israeli's were taking a pounding would the pro Hamas supporters on this thread denounce Palastine or is this just a Muslem-Jew thing ?

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 19:14

Girne



Most of the reason that innocents are being killed ( which I abhor) is due to the fact that Hamas are placing their weapons dumps and rocket launchers in those innocents houses. It is clear to even the most idiotic person ( ??????) that this means innocent deaths.



Dee



I notice still no response to message 36. You said earlier that I should not cross swords with you. You were right as your toothpick against my claymore is a pretty uneven fight!!!!!!

MrAngry


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 47

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 20:42

Why you all having this heated discussion in the first place?

Will your opions make a difference? NO

You all argue about a war and start another one between yourselves.

Have you not got enough problems of your own to worry about?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 23:10

ONLY POST CLAPTRAP.



Deecyprus4



I suppose the lady makes a good point!



wyn

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
04/01/2009 23:59

hi wyn long time no hear,

let us not waste time to support either israel or hamas ,children are being murdered ,no state in the world ,religion or human can escape that.



the super powers and eu ,israelis and arab moderates should force un resolution with a robust peace keeping force ,we are all guilty of supporting the deaths of these children otherwise.



we all have our own views ,so lets stop shooting people down and take in what they are saying .



musin

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 00:06

we will never change it what ever your views or thoghts leave it to the powers that be. there will always be victims of war that makes history. whilst we can pray we can sympaize. we hope we cannont change anything. its been going on for many years did we know all of this before media intervention . please jus pray it will come to a swift end without moe bloodshed. mr brown has ordered an imediate ceasefire let those in power do thier jobs xxx

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 00:22

musim,



I think you have misunderstood. I was referring to the thread title, and the author



In respect of the Palestine, Israel Gaza situation suffice it to say that I abhor it. Bullying is abhorrent. violence in any form can never be condoned, whatever the situation.



A negotiated settlement over the land issue is the only way forward.That is the root cause of the problem, and that is where the solution will be found. Meanwhile the IMMEDIATE cessation of hostilities on both sides IS ESSENTIAL. Humanitarian aid in vast quantities is vital. Mr Bush, America and Israel should hold their heads in shame.



It is people that stop peace happenning.



wyn

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 00:32

wyn



sorry mate i was only just saying hi to you,i was not suggesting you are for war.

apologies .



musin

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 00:47

musim,



No probs. I know from your postings your views on Peace!



wyn

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 03:19

Dutch message 73

Read some facts yourself!

Israel was NOT created by the UN in 48.The resolution of which you speak,in 1947 called for a partitioned State (56%for Jew,44% for Arab) but was NOT accepted. 1948 the Jewish leadership after some population shifts declared independence unilaterally from the mandate that UK had handed over to the UN.The US recognised the State Of Israel and then others.

didnt say Palestine was given over to Israel, I said THE LAND that was given over to the Jews ,We caused the mess by handing over the mandate to the UN instead standing firm against both sides and partition by population.

The groundwork was already built by the Balfour declaration and british / league of nations mandate that declared Palestine a Jewish National Home.







As for who or what annoys you, couldnt care less. As for having another Dee or whatever on this site,it is not for you to decide.

Hear endeth my part in this, leave me off your "insult list", I wont be replying

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 07:17

Gibson Mg 36 firstly allow me to apologise for not answering, I clearly didnt see that msg.



I have spoken with many TC's, not in coffee shops but in places of importance and have had differing opinions to those given you, you cannot compare what happened here with the Israel/Palestine conflict, the boot is on the other foot so to speak.



The only part of your message that warrants credibility is the fact that muslims, true muslims do not support terrorism, which is probably why the ppl I have spoken to voice their views, I understand this may be a little deep for you to understand....

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 07:30

To all those who think putting up threads to ridicule me is funny when I have been discussing a serious topic, whether you agree with me or not, is extremely sick, I can onlly assume that you were all drunk, your grammar leaves much to be desired as not one of you are able to string together a sentence without several spelling and diction errors...



I offer you all a challenge, you are all welcome at my house in Arapkoy to discuss this face to face....it is easy for a gang of boys to feebly attempt to bully a woman in cyber space...



You should all be ashamed of yourselves..

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 606

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 09:05

re: Msg #92

Dee.

If you expose yourself in the public domain, and are happy yourself to refere to others as 'windbags' and worse, surely you have enough savvy to realise there will be a reaction, after all, the very reason you posted in the first place both refering to another member, and about the current situation in Gaza was to get a reaction, it just wasn't in the main the reaction you wanted.

I think your reasons (on the Gaza post) were commendable, but surely the whole point here is that democracy is alive, many are able to have a say, and opinions expressed. There are no right or wrong opinions, only facts and fiction, what were read here are opinions based on personal interpretation with the information available [to the individual] at the time, no-one can be expected to do more, and in the same way you want to put over an opinion, the very least you can do is afford other the same freedom.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 09:12

Brian you miss my point, I am not concerned with the insults I have received on the threads I have started re Israel, I dish out and can take back, the objection is to threads that were started in my absence, purely to ridicule and directed solely at me as they were headlined with my name and allowed to continue unmoderated.



This is against board rules and unacceptable.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 10:33

Dee,



Isn't this a case of ...As ye sow, so shall ye reap!



Personally I chose to... Turn the other cheek. In the best interest of the board, as No1 Doyen keeps saying.



If you refer back to my posting Cyprus44 on 25/10 board members opinions were clearly expressed. It is a pity moderate moderation was not applied at that time! When you have read the thread, may I respectfully suggest that you read through YOUR postings since.



No1 Doyen ,in my opinion has always given sound unbiased advice.



wyn

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 10:35

Dee msg94



Re your last paragraph; as indeed are many of your posts due to the banal insults when someone disagrees with you.



Msg91



Coffee shops are a real insight to the way of life and feeling here and one of the people talking to me yesterday morning is a Judge, another a politician so I think quite able to put forward a reasoned argument. As for credibility I feel your posts would have some if you cut out the insults and read and accept other peoples views a bit more as it is yourself who is damaging your own credibility on here

billybuck


Joined: 12/11/2008
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 17:26

dc4

No sugar,just milk in my tea,thank you

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 17:31

Hi Billy, stirred but not shaken I hope

brian24001


Joined: 23/03/2008
Posts: 606

Message Posted:
05/01/2009 18:06

re: msg #94

Understood Dee, didn't realise that, I haven't actually read the threads with direct insults aimed at you, which obviousy should not be allowed.