car prices

cressy


Joined: 01/10/2007
Posts: 36

Message Posted:
22/11/2007 10:55

Hi all.Can any one tell me what the average price of a second hand family saloon would be.

What is the market like for obtaining used cars.



Thanks,cress.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
22/11/2007 11:10

Hi cressy they have a huge collection of 2nd hand cars in lefkosa , you will be spoilt for choice , as for the price i suspect they would be a tad more expensive as they will have been imported.Perhaps some members might know of private sales and i'm sure they will respond we are quite a helpful bunch

good luck simbas

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
22/11/2007 12:04

hi cressy

prices do differ depending on what car you buy what i have done for you is include a link to a website that sells cars like auto trader its in turkish but you can get a general feel for the prices to proced to the next page go to the bottom of the page then click on 'sonraki sayfa' (which means next page)



http://www.cyprusmotoring.com/CarResults.aspx?&mke=-1&mod=-1&nam=&kap=-1&clr=-1&flt=-1&pr1=-1&pr2=-1&cat=-1&cnt=1&yr1=-1&yr2=-1&km1=-1&km2=-1&sts=-1&snz=-1&l01=0&l02=0&l03=0&l04=0&l05=0&l06=0&l07=0&l08=0&l09=0&l10=0&l11=0&l12=0&l13=0&pic=0



i have also provided a couple of links to garages located in lefkosa



http://www.cyprusmotoring.com/nicosiamotors

http://www.cyprusmotoring.com/redlineautos

http://www.cyprusmotoring.com/kermiyamotors



i hope this all helps you if you need any more info or help please dont hesitate in posting me

regards

ukturk

ZeXsZ


Joined: 10/11/2007
Posts: 33

Message Posted:
22/11/2007 17:40

If you have a chance to bring from UK. It is better.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
22/11/2007 18:10

my understanding is that avenue is quite expensive ie import duty ect

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
22/11/2007 19:04

It is not better to bring a car from the UK, as simbas says the import tax is quite penal.



Take a look at http://www.torosoto.com for new cars

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
22/11/2007 21:37

hi guys

cars are a bit more expensive to buy in north cyprus compared to the u.k, but the depreciation rate is a lot lower in cyprus comparerd to the u.k, you could buy a car for 10k this year and sell it on the following year for nearly the same price you bought it for, and the diffrence in price of a 1 or two year old car comparerd to a brand new car is not very big (many main dealers of new cars in lefkosa i.e fiat-opel-hyandui-vw etc)

there is now way i would bring a car to drive full time in cyprus from the u.k the taxes and hassle is just not worth it unless you have loads of money to waste, if you are not indending to live full time in cyprus maybe just 6 months then you could bring your car but doing this you run the risk of clocking up your mileage then this makes the resale value of your car lower

regards

ukturk

Milou


Joined: 15/10/2007
Posts: 425

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 10:37

Hi Birthday Boy



I don't understand what you mean by taxes and hassle - we have an old car, so we assume that we would pay 40 percent of the value of the car which is still cheaper than buying the same in NC.



Can you please also explain what you mean by the hassle.



Thanks

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 10:59

hi milou

when i mean hassle im talking about driving all the way to cyprus the cost of getting there and all the paperwork you have to deal with once there and the tests your car has to go thru to be approved plus the tax you pay each year to have the car on the road is a bit higher than buying a car in cyprus

ok you are right in saying bringing a old car can be cheaper but then you got to make sure the car is fully road worthy to make the journey and remember the 40% of the value of the car is based on the cyprus market value and not what it is worth in the u.k so it could work out expensive

regards

ukturk

p.s thanks for the birthday wishes going out this sat to get blind drunk to celebrate ive only got 5 years left till my 40th (where has the time gone) ican feel mid lide crisis creeping up on me!!!! l.o.l

Milou


Joined: 15/10/2007
Posts: 425

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 11:43

Hi Birthday Boy



Thanks but I am still confused - are you saying, because I bring my car from UK I have to pay higher road tax?



Blind drunk sounds good - mid-life crisis! what mid life crisis! you're just a baby!!

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 11:55

Milou



You say you have an old car, did you know that to import a car into TRNC it has to be less than 5 years old unless you have owned it I think from new.#



To ship a car to TRNC will cost you £1,000-1500



The value of the car is based on the value shown in Glasses Guide.



It really is not worth the trouble importing a car

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 12:03

Milou





If your car is coming from Europe you’ll pay 40.04% of the value of the car in tax, if your car is of non-European origin then you’ll be charged 65.12%. On all cars you will pay an additional USD1200 for cars under 1600cc, USD3000 for cars between 1600cc and 2000cc and then USD3600 for cars with an engine capacity over 2000cc.

Milou


Joined: 15/10/2007
Posts: 425

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 12:04

Hi Lovingcyprus



Thanks for your help. I phoned the customs in NC and they told me, unequivocally, that if you've owned a car for more than five years you can bring it in. This was checked with the senior customs official who confirmed. We've owned our car over five years, although it's seven years old but it's in good mechanical order and low mileage.



We also wanted to be able to have a holiday and see something of Turkey, so it's perfect for us - also we're STAPPED for cash!!!!!!!!! but we do have two bicycles but it's a bit of a long ride. However, brithday boy at 35 YEARS could do the journey easily!!!!!!!



Regards

paul90


Joined: 07/11/2007
Posts: 350

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 12:39

Just to join this debate I thought the following might help.



The extract below is from the web site of the TRNC Prime Ministers Property Information Ofiice: http://www.trncproperty.eu/index.php?men=413&submen=372



"For Foreign Visitors;

Ø You can bring cars not older than 5 years into TRNC or if you are the owner of the car for the last five years. (Each Foreigner has the right to use a duty free car not exceeding 1 year).



For Foreigners who would like to settle in TRNC;



Ø You can bring cars not older than 3 years. (Each Foreigner has the right to use a duty free car not exceeding 1 year)."



Lovingcyprus is spot on with the information on taxes.



However Dolphin Movers will ship your car for £750 with two others in a container - if you do not want to drive it.



If you intend to settle in TRNC consider this:

Buy a 2-3 year old, very low mileage Ford Focus or Vauxhall Astra from a UK car supermarket. The price will be low and depreciation high according to Glasses Guide (which TRNC customs refer to).

Therefore, taxes would be about 40% on £8000 = £3200 plus £1500 ($3000).

Add transport at £750.

Total cost is about £13500.

You will have a reliable, low mileage, three year old car, which will last you another five years.

How much would a similar second hand car cost to buy in TRNC???



A lot of the adverts I have seen (in the TRNC BUYSELL) show cars about five years old with high mileage (probably driven in Turkey) at high prices.



Regards, Paul

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 12:48

paul90



Take a look at the following:-



http://www.torosoto.com



New cars for less than £10k

paul90


Joined: 07/11/2007
Posts: 350

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 13:30

Thanks for the link Peter.

Worth considering the new Corsa at 14.200 € but I do not know what "dan başlayan fiyatlarla" means in English. Does anyone know??

The new Astra would be about £14000. Again, could be quite reasonable if it is a delivered price with no extra taxes.

Do you think these "Opel" cars are made in Germany or made under licence in Turkey? Perhaps prices will gradually come down over the next few years.



I aim to move out permanently in 2011 so there is still time to make the right decision at a later date.

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 14:35

paul90



I don't think Opel are made under licence in Turkey, but I stand to be corrected.



dan başlayan fiyatlarla is something like prices from

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 15:17

hi guys

turkey has a licence to produce opel in turkey their factory is based in izmit close to istanbul but the thing is they produce left hand drive cars for the turkish market and produce to order right hand drive for north cyprus

dan başlayan fiyatlarla means exactly the starting price

turkey has the same system of bringing cars from england you are allowed to drive the car for six months in the country then you will have to apply for blue plate (tourist plate) and pay 40% tax on the value based in turkey

again this is not worth it and the car price in turkey is the same as in cyprus you pay a bit more for a car but the deprecitation rate is much lower than any where in europe

regards

ukturk

blind drunk is the word i hopefully wont be able to see for a few days after lol

and thanks for saying im still a baby and you are right i can still manage long rides l.o.l take care all

grahamlil


Joined: 10/10/2007
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 15:45

Would it be possible to nip across to Turkey and buy a vehicle, I appreciate it would be left hand drive, but thats not really a problem, would it be cheaper? would it be easier to bring into TRNC



Regards all grahamlil

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 16:14

You cannot import left-hand drive cars any longer into the TRNC

grahamlil


Joined: 10/10/2007
Posts: 143

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 18:03

lovingcyprus,

Are righthand drive available in Turkey

Regards

grahamlil

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 18:27

grahamlil



I'm afraid I don't know if you can get right hand drive cars in Turkey and ukturk has said that the price of cars in Tukey is the sams as TRNC. Then I imagine you would have to pay import tax at the rates below.



If your car is coming from Europe you’ll pay 40.04% of the value of the car in tax, if your car is of non-European origin then you’ll be charged 65.12%. On all cars you will pay an additional USD1200 for cars under 1600cc, USD3000 for cars between 1600cc and 2000cc and then USD3600 for cars with an engine capacity over 2000cc.



You can buy a brand new car in the TRNC for £8,000 it would be something similar to a Kia Picannto or a small Chevrolet, take a look at the following link:-



http://www.torosoto.com

paul90


Joined: 07/11/2007
Posts: 350

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 18:42

If you import a car (from the UK) into Turkey itself then you also have to pay high import taxes.

If Turkey joins the EC in 2010 then I guess they will, by law, have to abolish these import duties for citizens of other EU countries.

It will be interesting to see how this affects the TRNC. Maybe they will follow suit.

I presume at the moment a Turkish national does not pay import taxes if he imports a car into TRNC. If Turkey join the EC and abolish import duties would he then have to start paying them in TRNC or will TRNC also abolish them????

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
23/11/2007 21:10

hi guys

paul turks from the mainland also have to pay a import tax to bring a car into cyprus and all the loop holes have now been shut because most cypriots would jump on the boat over to turkey buy a car then bring it over and minamal taxes but you cant do this no more, the cyprus government do allow turkish cars around 6 months permission to drive but then they have to take the car out of the country so they just go back to turkey then they return back with the car

even thou cyprus is a republic of turkey they have actual different laws and if turkey joins the e.u this does not mean north cyprus will join and change their laws aswell until north cyprus joins and abolish these duty fees

regards

ukturk

Gooner


Joined: 24/11/2007
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
24/11/2007 18:37

Hi



I recently puchased a 4 x 4 after months of searchıng. Was ıntending to buy a normal car but on advıce from several people based on locals and theır drıvıng skılls or otherwıse, decıded a Shogun would be the best/safest bet!



I looked all over and prıces were sımply rediculous. İ was fortunate to meet a guy who ımports from the South, savıng me 7k or so on the prıce. He charges a small fee, İ paıd 500 for all the paperwork and legal formalıtıes which he will take care of. Futhermore you wıll not need to pay any duty or any other cost and no emıssıons mot check lol.



Let me know ıf you are ınterested and I'll pass hıs number on.

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
24/11/2007 21:58

Sounds to me as if you will be driving on south cyprus plates

Graham


Joined: 20/10/2007
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
24/11/2007 22:38

Hi Gooner



Could you please pass on any info for the man who imports cheap cars into the North as the wife is looking for one.



Graham

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
25/11/2007 18:43

hi guys

graham before you purchase any car brought over from the south i would make sure that it will be rgistered in the north and not the south because you will get south cyprus reg plates and you will only be allowed to keep the car in the north a set time period aswell as other hassles servicing etc, i do know years ago you could do this and register a south cypriot car in the north and not pay the tax but like the turkey situation which i said earlier they closed this loop hole so if you want register the car from the south you will still have to pay the import tax

So gooner make sure mate that it wont have greek registration otherwise you will still have the same problem when trying to register it in the north

take care all

ukturk

Graham


Joined: 20/10/2007
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
25/11/2007 20:23

Cheers Erkan know most of the rules but anyone who can save me a few bob on a car for the wife will be given the courtesy of my time to see if it kosha.



Graham

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
25/11/2007 21:01

Hi gooner, would you let a liverpool fan have the info as well.

email if poss. many thanks

cheers

p

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
25/11/2007 23:19

Graham and pilgrim



Far from saving yourselves some money you will end up losing £500 and if you ever get a car from this source having major problems with the TRNC authorities.



There is a well known saying that goes as follows:-



"If something sounds too good to be true it usually is"



SO BEWARE

Graham


Joined: 20/10/2007
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
25/11/2007 23:49

Thanks lovingcyprus for the advice but have heard or been caught with most of the scams in cyprus over the last 4 years and this one was one I had not heard of and thought I might appreachiate it.



Many thanks for protecting are backs.



Graham

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
26/11/2007 15:02

hi all

pilgrim i would be carefull on what any arsenal supporter says!!!!! lol

trying to stich us all up!!! lol

only joking gooner but like i said mate be carefull on getting the car from the south too much hassle and money in the long run plus you cant keep the car in the north full time and you will be driving around on greek plates (awfull lol)

all i say to all the posters this is one thing we cant save any money on by going else where for it the best bet is if you got the money to buy brand new not much diffrence between new and a few yers old plus the new car is not that much more expensive than the u.k and dont forget the depreciation levels if you compare a 4 year old car in n cyprus to the same car in the u.k you wont lose as much when its time to sell the car so it prob works out you are better off buying the car in north cyprus in the long run

regards to all

ukturk

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
26/11/2007 15:31

New cars available in the TRNC from £8000

Gooner


Joined: 24/11/2007
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
27/11/2007 14:33

Hello all,



Contrary to all the myths beıng put forward ıt ıs perfectly legal for an foreıgn natıonal to own a car regıstered ın the South. When one arrıves at the border you are able to purchase a full years ınsurance for the TRNC ıf you own a so called South car. If ıt wasnt legal to own one, the authorıtıes wouldnt be sellıng ınsurance.



As for a car for 8000 you pays for what you gets ı guess! The Jeep ı have was a lot more expensıve on thıs sıde then on the other.



Ive had my jeep for a whıle now, no one has ever stopped me ıf anythıng people have been very curtıous. The authorıtıes know ı drıve one as when ı cross the border the Turkısh sıde always ask ıf ı stıll have the same car or have changed. It makes crossıng to go to the other sıde much easıer too.

Dont even need to open my wındow, sımply prop up my ınsurance and the brıt passport on the dash and the Greeks wave you past.



There are no hassles ınvolved what so ever. As I mentıoned I got ıntroduced to a guy, sellıng cars ıs not what I do. He sourced several cars for me, drove me to the south, I negotıated the prıce and then he saw to the paperwork.

Graham


Joined: 20/10/2007
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
27/11/2007 18:08

Hi Gooner,



A few more details would help, do you own the car as in name in log book, if so do you need an address on the dark side or can you register it with your north address, also what is the cost of road tax in the south as i would expect it has to be kept taxed and insured there.



Graham

Gooner


Joined: 24/11/2007
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
28/11/2007 14:19

Hı Graham



As I mentıoned ın my earlıer post ı dont sell cars nor do I have any ıntentıon ın doıng so.



The car I purchased I own ın name ın the log book. A copy of your passport ıs requıred. I have full ınsurance for both sıdes valıd for one calender year on both sıdes. The cover on the other sıde comes automatıcally wıth breakdown cover to!



The vehıcle wıll need to be road taxed and mot'd ın the south otherwıse ıf regıstered here you end up payıng the tax agaın. The address was provıded by the guy I met at whıch ıt ıs currently regıstered.



As to cost of road tax I have no ıdea as ıt came wıth a road tax. I presume ıt wıll be no more exp then what ıt ıs here, ıf anythıng may even be cheaper!



Hope thıs helps.

Graham


Joined: 20/10/2007
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
28/11/2007 15:42

Hi Gooner



Thanks for the reply if you would be so kind to forward me the mans details ie phone number,name,address and any other details that might help by email.



Many thanks

Graham

spud1


Joined: 22/05/2007
Posts: 544

Message Posted:
28/11/2007 19:34

if i drive a car from the uk can i leave it there at apartment for my use when i am out there on hols

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
28/11/2007 23:49

spud1



To answer your question yes you can BUT please take a look at the various posts on this thread there is quite a lot of info about importing a car into the TRNC.



You cannot simply bring a car into the TRNC without paying the relevant import duties. I would not recommend taking a car there myself.

vee123


Joined: 15/04/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
15/04/2008 22:31

Hi gooner! we are moving to north cyprus in june 08 and are looking for a 98 to 2001 LWB shogun, & i agree they are very expensive to buy. If this gent can save as much as you say on a shogun i would be interested in his number, many thanks, wayne.