ROC to supply gas to the TRNC?

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 09:47

Republic to supply gas to north

Government Spokesman Stephanos Stephanou has said that the Republic of Cyprus has been asked to supply the island's northern Turkish occupied areas with gas and has agreed to do so.



Stephanou said that there is a lack of gas used by hospitals in the occupied areas. “We will supply them with gas which will be paid at the price it is currently purchased,” he said, adding that its safe transportation has been secured.



“The Republic of Cyprus has responded positively to a request which has a humanitarian aspect,” he added.



Asked if a similar thing has happened in the past, Stephanou said that Cyprus Electricity Authority had previously supplied the occupied areas with electricity, with the consent of the Cyprus government.



“I believe these are issues which help and promote trust between the two communities. They show that the Republic of Cyprus wants to take care and takes care of Turkish Cypriots as well,” he added.

Famagusta Gazette 06 J

Lilli



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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 09:55

hi AJ good morning does this mean the talks are moving forward at last.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 11:12

Hi Lilli

Call me cynical but I think it is the 'good cop, bad cop' scenario and for all the harm the ROC does to the TRNC every now and again they do something that makes it look like they are to good guys.

Take care

AJ

Lilli



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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 11:14

actualy AJ i agree. PR MACHINE at it again. take care xx

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 11:19

Are we talking about medical gases or fuel gas?

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 11:22

Vaughan

My guess is medical gases.

Baspinar Bob


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 11:41

In that case.,make sure it does what it says on the tin lol





Bob

bridie


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 11:44

It has to be medical gas, as the ROC has been supplying LPG for many years, and I'm sure it is nothing to do with the "talks".

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 11:50

This seems to be just a normal commercial transaction. The only thing that makes it seem unusual is the Cyprus Problem. No doubt these gases could be sourced anywhere, including Turkey.

Perhaps the TRNC should invite the RoC to express and interest in purchasing water from the proposed pipeline from Turkey. If the RoC where to sign up to purchasing water from TRNC this would help greatly to make the commercial case for financing it.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 12:20

Sorry, should have said ..."express an interest"....

spook


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 13:08

Just need to make sure its not "laughing gas"

fire starter


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 13:46

i think we could all do with some of that spook.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 14:27

The "rump" RoC supplied electricity to "TRNC" for years and never got paid a penny, yet when there was a problem with the power stn in the "north" I well remember "TRNC" Vaughan thanking the GC admin...



When the island first started "fragmenting" into ghettos, we had a situation whereby water for Nicosia came from the "GC" sector and the sewage treatment plant was in the "TC" sector..



There were tit for tat "interruptions in supply, for technical reasons" but eventually things settled down...



If the "rump" RoC didn't supply "lecky" when needed there would have been members who whinged the GCs were being deliberately obstructive.



Like all things, a "settlement" will involve pragmatism and writing off of debts..



If I had a pound for every time I hear of a project to pipe water from Turkey under the sea... it would have been possible to pay for it ;)



Ironically, Cyprus has the potential to generate "lecky" via solar power to run desalination plants.. but where to locat

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 14:49

Hi MM,



You have a good memory (don't we know it!). I did acknowledge RoC credit when they supplied us with electricity when we needed it not that long ago.

You must also remember then, when recently an RoC gov minister(?) snapped that he wouldn't discuss accepting water from TRNC (underwater pipeline) until after a settlement.

This pipeline may or may not happen but it wouldn't hurt the RoC to offer support for the scheme by proposing that they would purchase water as and when it became available. Anything less in drought stricken Cyprus can only be seen as putting politics before the countries greater need.

If RoC supplying electricity isn't seen as recognizing/legitimizing TRNC, why would RoC accepting water from TRNC be seen as anything more?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 15:29

Hi "TRNC"Vaughan



do you remember those crazy days pre Annan ?! ..



I'm more interested in actions rather than what one minister says.



One of the main stumbling blocks to progress is "TRNC"... now if Mr Erdogan had called "liealotopoulos'" bluff and implemented a lot of the things the TCs had agreed to, I don't think the "RoC" would be called that anymore, either..



I guess the GCs would rather ship in water from Greece via Limassol for now;)



If they can't agree about roaming payments for Cellular phone networks what hope is there!!



It's all about semantics... the RoC admin can "allow" humanitarian gestures, but cannot "trade" with an "illegal regime"...





It sent the bill to Turkey for the unpaid electric..

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
06/01/2009 16:06

Hi MM,



There was an interesting article in last Sundays Mail by Simon Bacheli quoting the Nicosia office of the Peace Research Institute of Oslo, who had launched a book entitled Intra-Island trade in Cyprus – Obstacles, oppositions and psychological barriers. In the book, they describe how trade with Turkish Cypriots “reminds Greek Cypriots of the 1974 trauma”, and how Turkish Cypriots are reminded of the “trauma of the 1960s” when they try to sell in Greek Cypriot markets.



Greek Cypriots seem to be able to sell to Turkish Cypriots, but they do not feel comfortable buying from them. This stems, the researchers say, from a tendency towards “denial”. The “prevailing atmosphere… [is]…the idea that any dealings with Turkish Cypriots, however small, are somehow not legitimate and may be considered as some form of recognition of the pseudo state”.

Please excuse the copy/paste thing, but I think it does go some way to explaining the GC frame of mind vis-a-vis our gas/water debate.