The Royals and racial issues

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:32

well not surprised at the princes namecalling our friends from overseas - wasnt Philip ( a greek himself) guilty of accusing some of our friends of badworkmanship on a factory visit a few years ago. Like father like son I guess.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:40

Can we take it that in future Harry will be calling......



Goerdies..gentlemen from Tyneside



Taffts gentlemen from Wales



Brummies gentlemen from Birmingham



Jocks gentlemen from Scotland.



Sparks gentlemen with a degree in Electrical Engineering



Chippies gentlemen who work in wood..



Perhaps we should stop shooting the enemy and buy them drinks instead



For heavens sake the lad is in the army.



I am just going to dry my hair Towellhead...Go on then, ban me!



wyn

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:43

Like Grandfather like son?

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:44

Edit...grandson.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:44

Message 1, more likely,



Like grandfather, like grandson. Unless you favour the James Hewitt parentage theory.



Lem

JamesB


Joined: 07/02/2007
Posts: 450

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:46

I have always thought so lem!



Jb

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:47

Lemtich....I DO favour that theory !



*sorry to all the Lady Di,Queen of Hearts, Express readers out there*

nevisman



Joined: 11/04/2008
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:49

Lemtich



i think you may be closer there

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 21:56

should the sooty and sweep show now be renamed?

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:01

Its the guys nickname, he,s stated that he's not in the neast bothered by it !

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:22

He is not doing any thing the rest of us havent said before now.Does this mean the Yanks have to stop calling us limeys and the Aussies calling us Poms,for gods sake itsabout these people lived in the real world.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:25

Who really cares..........

andysue


Joined: 12/11/2007
Posts: 891

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:25

its the armed forces for gods sake! cant believe these idiots making so much of it. . . not living in the real world



andy

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:27

Messages 6 to 8, have a gander, something about the chin perhaps.



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/Lemtich/Fatherandson.jpg



Lem

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:28

Harry is definately James Hewitt son all you have to do is look at the photos side by side.



Thats why it is very important for the ladies out there be very carefull when choosing a partner, you and the rest of the world will have to live with the consequencies for a very long time

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:32

we have to accept all after all we conquered the world and they all wanted to come, we even have to put up with the Jocks

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:33

I recall Princess M calling the Irish 'pigs'... Oh well!

Ossie


Joined: 19/01/2008
Posts: 311

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:33

No more Nobbies,Micks,Paddies,Cocky buggers,P..s artists,Sh..p sh...ers the list is endless.In fact no nick names 'cos they could all be considered offensive.Can't wait to take somebody to court for calling me an offensive adjective!!!What a sorry state the UK has become.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:34

Its political correctness gone mad.



I used to work with an asian girl, I called her a paki she called me white trash, we both knew it was a term of endearment and meant nothing bad and both laughed about it.

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:38

yup - agreed - who really gives a damn.

Lemtich



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Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:49

A little while ago there was a conflict between Azerbijan and Armenia. The reporter referred to one side as Azeris. Racialist?



I am referred to as a Brit, it doesn't bother me, is it racist to refer to a Turk rather then a Turkish person?



Pakistan means land (stan) of Paki (pure) , that is, pure in a religious sense.



The shortened version has acquired racist connations through its use by skinhead gangs of the 1980's in the UK.



I did see some Asian designer clothing a couple of years ago with the logo PAK1, seemingly worn with pride. See this link,



http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/feb/25/race.world



Lem

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:50

IF I WAS A MODERATOR I WOULD BAN THE LOT OF YOU.

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:54

Y'know what - bottom line - we all live on this planet, we are lucky to live on this planet, and we will (in all probability, despite our 'intelligence', destroy this planet). We're human, we're us. Shame we can't share this planet... Eventually, this is what will destroy us/it.

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:56

right on Yvonne

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:58

Well thank you Karakum5c for bringing some well reasoned argument to the discussion.



You have put a lot of thought into your comments and it is painfully obvious that you don't quite understand what is being discussed.



If you wish to contribute further to this thread, can you try putting some reasoning into your comments explaining why you feel like the way you do and stop writing in capitals.



Lem

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 22:59

Thanks Kenny.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 23:09

re 17 Yvonne - The Irish ( Pigs)



may be that was shortly after the provos bumped off Lord Mountbatten in Sligo..:(

Bilko


Joined: 11/03/2008
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 23:10

To be pedantic for truth's sake - cad Hewitt could not have been Harry's dad, the relevant dates don't match.



Prince Philip was born in Corfu, but his genetic make up is more Dane than Greek.



Seems sad that the media is trying to damage the royals, remember they indirectly 'did' for Harry's mum.



Bilko



Ex Army, known variuosly as Smokey, Taff, Lanky, Fifteen; and at home as bastard, idle swine, foureyed get, drunk - and at school as nudey (don't ask).

Am I bovvered?

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 23:15

Hi 'mmm',



You probably have a point with certain sectors, but for me, I'm just someone who lives in the world and who happened to be born here. Perhaps my comment was too much 'off the cuff'. Didn't want to cause any offense. I'm just a person who lives in this world. Bleed the same as everyone else. Period.

No bad intention meant. Y

glw215


Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 178

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 23:38

mmmm,

I know you want to continue to appear smart but was it the "provos"???

Bilko


Joined: 11/03/2008
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 23:49

Mmmm / GLW215

BBC says it was the IRA - no mention of 'provos'. Murder happened on 27/8/79, same day as 18 soldiers were killed by a booby trap bomb at Warrenpoint. Sad days, glad they're over, well in Ireland, at least.

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 23:51

tTo: 'mmmm:

huh? think I'm done here. Don't get your point...

Have a nice evening, Y

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 23:54

I did explore this on Google and turned up one uncomfortable thread. I'm not going to post the link as I'm a Moderator but I was surprised.



It was definitely the IRA who used his particular personal weakness to plan their attack.



Lem

Bilko


Joined: 11/03/2008
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
13/01/2009 23:54

Mountbatten murder.

Edit. Wickepedia pins the deed on the 'provos'.

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:04

With all due respect, Lem,



Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom; sterling is their currency, red are their letterboxes, etc etc.



As a person from Dublin, Ireland (what is to often wrongly referred to as 'Southern Ireland', but what is the 'Republic of Ireland'), I know nothing of any of these crimes, nor do I want to. In Dublin, (the Capital), we live in peace. And we want to extradite the 'hard-core' folk who try to destroy our Island (by which I mean the Republic; the North belongs to the UK). This is a personal opinion.

Y

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:16

Dear Yvonne



Those who killed Lord Mountbatten were probably British citizens. Don't fret.



Oíche mhaith



Lem

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:21

Thanks lem (gurbh maith agat). Peace in Ireland; peace in Cyprus; peace, full stop. That's what it's about. As I said earlier, we are all visitors here, thanks to Mother Nature. I just hope, one day, we can all live in peace and as one. I've got my eyes wide open, this is my dream...

cmriver1


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:21

we would rather have the Royals then Bush. want to trade.

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:25

Ah - should I 'misunderestimate' you? ;)

irishwrath


Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 124

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:41

Its all a load of rubbish is it not, I have been called paddy or mick for all my working life, I worked with a welsh fellow for many years, you guessed it,he was called Taffy.

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:44

yup - bullshit... it's all crap

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:49

I now feel guilty. I just wanna say, I don't give a shit. All I care about is that we can all live together, from wherever, no matter what religon, no matter what nationality... Maybe I'm being stupid or something, but I believe ultimately, we are all of one, and one of all... Cut me, cut you - blood is red. That's it. That's who we are. No skin colour, no religion, no nothing... just human.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:54

Prince Charles is accused of calling his Asian friend Sooty!!



The fact he has done so for many years and has been accepted by said friend is irrelevant to that pathetic minority!!!!!! As soon as the sad members of the fifth estate find out it becomes a cause for starting ww3.



I hope that through this thread that Yvonne has learnt something about the much criticised MM and that we all learn from Lem as a moderator he can be diplomatic and create good discussion at the same time.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 00:56

Moderator please close this Sh@te down.



Starts off about a prince making a few comments to end up in anti Irish garbage.



Either stay on the tread or get a life.



mmmmmm, you should have left the forum when you put all that "shall I stay or should I go now" attention seeking guff on the board. Have a bit of backbone.

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 01:00

Tiggy - you got a problem with free-flow conversation? It's called 'shooting the breeze'.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 01:04

"Shooting the breeze" my a@se.



The thread has nothing to do with the Irish.

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 01:10

And who said this conversation was about the Irish??

I'm Irish; wanna talk?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 01:16

Yeah why not Yvonne.......What do you think about Harry calling a fellow soldier a "Pak"? ......oh, and what about prince charles calling a good friend by his nickname..."sooty"? lets talk.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 01:16

A Turkish friend of mine en route to Scotland via Heathrow ran into trouble

with a Pakistani member of airport staff, when she said she thought he was

"Paki" He was furious, but she had no idea why as she thought it was (it is,

isn't it?) just short for Pakistani. I explained to her it was thought to be offensive, but really, why? Calling the Chinese shops "Chinkies" sounds more

so but it is almost a kind of affectionate term. The French call us

Queen Mother was said to have referred to the Europeans as "Wops & Dagos"

and thought the Common Market would never work, or so it is reported.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 01:29

cronus,



Any joy finding that brain surgeon yet?



wyn

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 01:32

Tiggy,



This was a good thread til you joined in with your usual garbage.



The thread still applies regarding name calling. As I previously stated, nobody was bothered for a number of years that P. Charles and his friend used what others percieve as derogatory names. Then someone like yourself suddenly finds this name is being used and wishes to make an issue of it.



There is nothing offensive to anybody here until someone decides to print on the front page of a Red Top, then the idiots make it into a major problem.



Throughout the world different socities have names for others, the French call UK citezens le Ros Beefs (or something like). I remember from a visit to Australia to see family we were called all sorts of names not repeatable here but they also had names for people from Queensland - bananna benders, those from Victoria were Mexicans etc. Anyone from Canberra should just go away!!



Everyone has "nicknames" some better than others. Just accept it!!!!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 08:56

Says the stone thrower from up thill, better a stone thrower than a spear chucker eh david lol

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 09:33

Well said Nigel!

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 09:37

Nice one David.......The amount of crap you have come out with on this forum would fill a garbage bin. (my opinion)



glad to see you got back on thread though, a credit to you.



P.



Say hello to PP & Sussy for me!!!!!!

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 09:39

The Royal family are firmly stuck in the past. This "friend" who has put up with being called Sooty may have felt unable or unwilling to challenge the future King, who was able to cuckold his polo pal's wife under his nose remember. Doesn't make it right. Some posters on here are dinosaur remnants of the past, soon to be extinct, hopefully.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 09:42

Not so long ago there were some people on here who made reference to Tottenham football supporters as 'Yid's' which some people also found offensive. Then again some people didn't find it offensive. You'll always get people with differing opinions. That's life I'm afraid.

Littlenige



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Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 09:43

Does sooty call charlie BIG EARS ?

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 09:45

Nige. Behind his back he probably does. Not to his face though!

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 11:26

Dear Yvonne - re 29/32 I'm quite sure that you meant nothing bad - I was explaining a possible explanation for Princess Margaret's outburst.



The ironic thing is he was in favour of Unification of Ireland and the idiots who blew him up probably didn't realise that !



re msg 30 glw215. I said the Prov. IRA carried out the murder, yes... If you have an alternative opinion, and facts to back it up ...





re Tiggy msg 44 - you seem to be the self appointed adjudicator of what should be posted, or not , on this board.. you should perhaps consider starting one of your own ;) ..



I can't believe the irony of the "should I resign?" thread passed over such an intelligent head !



You managed to TRY to pick fights with at least three people on this thread.. I wonder why....

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 11:36

re msg 30 glw215



http://www.thewildgeese.com/pages/mountbat.html



If you don't believe me.. ( about the killers of Mountbatten) ..how about this ?

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 14:14

Some of this is political correctness gone mad. If Charlie boy and his mate have nicknames [and do not take offence at the other using the respective name], then why do others poke their noses in?? It is not what is said, but how it is said. One of my business partners is East African Asian, and we constantly joke with each other such as "keep your eyes off the white/brown [as applicable] women. Neither of us takes offence at the other's comments because no offence is meant. It is a JOKE and we take it as such.

Equally I have to say that he receives comments from others which aren't meant in the same light, and instantly recognises the difference.



P.S. How did this thread get on to the Troubles in NI ?? A lot of bad things went on by both sides, let's sincerely hope all that is now in the past.



P.P.S. I have heard a whisper that Prince Phillip is going to be a UN Goodwill Ambassador because he gets on so well with all nationalities !!!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 14:21

Arthur re msg 61



"How did this thread get on to the Troubles in NI ?? A lot of bad things went on by both sides, let's sincerely hope all that is now in the past. "





Well *I* hope we all read this and we can stop hearing what one Cypriot did to another in the past as an excuse to leave things as they are now..unfinished..



As for the thread going off topic, I think you'll find that it was my "fault" ( not intended ) and I hope I corrected it in the message above yours

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 14:24

Arthur I totally agree that many people find the namecalling a little fun and we all get banter about our colour/nationalities. We caucasian english are no different. The problem is if this happens in the workplace be warned. Employers have to have policies in this respect and non complaince can mean disciplinary action also an individua can make a case of it for discrimination. Well in the UK of course. So whilst it is sometimes acceptable fun it can have serious consequences even job losses through discipline and compensation for those effected. Keep it out of work and of course off the football pitches.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 15:31

Agree with you Rocky. Too many cases of discimination at work in the courts nowadays.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 15:53

Mods please close this thread as it has gone off topic and I agree with everything Tiggy said..

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 17:05

mods please don't close this thread - the original poster is still involved - and I think it is still on topic - Dee, why are you so anxious to close it ?!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 17:52

re Frontlal msg 55 "The Royal family are firmly stuck in the past. This "friend" who has put up with being called Sooty may have felt unable or unwilling to challenge the future King, who was able to cuckold his polo pal's wife under his nose remember. Doesn't make it right."



Ok, so you think name calling is rude, or harassment, if unwarranted/ un wanted, by the person at the reciving end..



"Some posters on here are dinosaur remnants of the past, soon to be extinct, hopefully. "



Naturally, if you were guilty of any of these things you would apologise.. right ?!;)

Kitty Kat Jac


Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 230

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 17:58

mmmmmmm - do you never get bored of going over the same old stuff.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 18:22

re 68 KKJ - could you enlighten me, of what you are talking about!? Is it relevant to this thread? If not you can email me..off site...I'm not hiding MY email address.



This is a good thread..

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 18:28

mmmmm what makes you think I am anxious, be assured I am not just fed up with reading rubbish, mostly what you and a couple of others post

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 18:35

Dear Dee, re 70



what you might call "rubbish".... we both live in a free country...right?!..



If the original poster asked to end the thread, that would not be unreasonable. Imagine if Tiggy (myself - corrected and apologised for upsetting Yvonne - unintentionally) and you hadn't posted, this topic would still be on thread ...



Can we please see how it goes?... if a thread was resulting in rudeness or REALLY upsetting members, I'd agree..



If it bores everyone it would die a natural death, anyway... !

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 19:14

Well, I might give myself a certain amount of leeway in certain deserving cases

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 19:18

mmmm many threads are closed whilst the op is still posting, living in a free country sadly does not stop you and others being incredibly boring...Yawnnnnn good night

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 19:28

as the original poster I would prefer to see the junk removed from this thread or remove it altogether. Perhaps the posters of the junk should be removed as well. any comments?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 23:47

Sorry, for my part, Rocky :(

rocky


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Message Posted:
15/01/2009

sorry mmmmmm from your apology it sounded as if you are admitting posting junk, cant say I noticed anyway so am I bothered......no

fairy



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Posts: 40

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 00:25

re mess 35: YVONNE read your history books and stand by them. Ireland has 32 counties and always will. Not all IRISH people believed in a violent solution, and the greatest workers for peace on our island were Trimbull and John Hume. Also call me a mick or a paddy anytime, I was brought up with good banter...!

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 00:26

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, well it is not only me that thinks you are full of it. I do not pick fights on anyone. Sometime the truth is hard to take.



If a thread starts off on a specific subject I feel it should stay as close to it as poss......nearly always goes off to an Irish slant with certain bigots.



I can imagine your voice is as boring as your typing. Is there a need for a barrage of replies to each thread you usually interrupt ?



Kindest regards,



Padraig O'Connoloin.

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 01:06

This thread should be closed down immediately as all it is being used is by some people to promote racist, bigoted stereotypes and insulting coments while pretending to have a debate.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 04:25

Dear Tiggy re 78, suggest you click on your own profile..read your own posts and you would draw a different conclusion.. most of your posts are tellling someone they are "boring, stupid,etc.," !!



Fairy re 77 .. N.I + GB = UK, OK.. ? .. I refer you to the "Good Friday agreement" and the fact that the peoples of Ireland voted to accept this and Eire removed it's claim to the six counties in it's constitution.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 06:16

I am sorry but it is out and out rasism, because the person who is so called does not object makes it no less an insult.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 13:05

mmmm you are getting a little boring! any chance of changing mmmmmm to ZZZZZZ!



242 post in 27 days since you joined. Get out a little more.



Please read msg 61, 65, 68, 70, 73, 74,& 76



Are you in any chance related to a little man who dresses in sailor boy suits ?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 13:25

Dear Tiggy, re 82, As "TRNC" Vaughan says.. opinions are like the waste disposal part of are bodies.. we all have 'em..



Thanks for the stats...We've been to some nice places in England Bath, Bristol, Cheltenham, Stroud, Peak District, Chilterns, London, Black Country .. etc during those posts;)



If you think Pikey and I are connected in some way, then I suggest YOU need to pay a little more attention..



Used to have sailor suit, though when I was 4.. may be you saw me on hols in Donegal

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 13:44

The armed forces are full of politically incorrect lads. Many of them are good honest working class lads who just want to fit in with their mates and call a spade a spade, a raghead a raghead and a jundie a jundie. In many cases they risk their lives fighting these people and being blown-up by them on our behalf - they are hardly likely to hold them in very high regard. Many of us will recall that we were happy to call Germans krauts, Japanese Japs and more recently Argentinians Argies. Where's the difference? Thats the way it is in the military and the royal princes are no different than any other servicemen in wanting to fit in and be accepted by their peers. When the chips are down and the bullets are flying you are not fighting for Queen and country - you fight for your self and your mates. It's called Esprit de Corps.

I'm sure this view won't be popular but it needs saying IMHO.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 14:49

Well said TRNC Vaughan, Spot on.!



Guess its quite difficult to be politically correct when you are under fire, fighting for the

chattering classes back home. Thats when you find out what real mates are, be they

Jocks, Taffys, Pakis ,Brummies, Geordies etc.etc.



People discriminate, bullets don't.



wyn

frontalman



Joined: 28/02/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 18:10

Point well made Vaughan, and I think we all understand what you say, however the good old 'Love thy Neighbour' with Jack Smethurst will never be repeated on British TV even though its point was to show how bigotted Jack's charater was. Prince Charles has not moved on, allegedly. If he has then good on him. If I called someone Sooty today in the UK I could well find myself in court.

Cypfan


Joined: 10/10/2008
Posts: 104

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 19:12

No1 Doyen:



"Too many cases of discimination at work in the courts nowadays."



Too right, Bill. They should all settle out of court for a tidy sum like I did (for direct sex discrimination against a male).



People shouldn't be afraid of using the justice system as long as they know what they're doing.