re-carnation of denktash

MUSIN M


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Message Posted:
17/01/2009 20:52

there is no doubt that the election campaign will create a fresh platform and a lifeline for the otherwise almost dead opposition who, regardless of differences between them,are totally against any solution leading to unification of the island .

why to hand over to them this opportunity when there was no pressing need for it ? what is expected from these elections that will dwarf the re-carnation of the no-solution camp ?we can see ex president denktash and his volkan group ,his son,s party and his old party ubp campaigning under his direction for no- solution or separation or re-cognition of trnc as a separate state with nothing to lose but possibly to gain.

such a campaign ,we can see will not help talat in what he is pursuing at the moment but will force him to harden his politics if he chooses to be neutral.



musin

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
17/01/2009 21:04

musin

I dont know what your thoughts are but the UBP appear to be the party of choice with the coffee shop politicians out here at the moment. Perhaps UK TC's have a different slant on it. Would be interested to know.

AJ

MUSIN M


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Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 21:17

aj



the ubp also appear to be the party choice of the majority of uk tc,s. at last count there were 300 thousand turkish cypriots in the british isles ,and a total of 700 thousand in the world.



musin

Cypfan


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Message Posted:
17/01/2009 21:21

And how many TCs left in Cyprus thanks to a regime that cuts its citizens off from the rest of the world?

MUSIN M


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Message Posted:
17/01/2009 21:35

cypfan

are you referring to turkey,your msg is not clear enough and if you are ,why not just state it .



its your opinion and you have a right to one ,right or wrong.



musin

Cypfan


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Message Posted:
17/01/2009 21:38

musin,



I was meaning the "local subordinate administration" which is the legal term for the authorities in N Cyprus.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/01/2009 22:19

Musin who said this ..?



"those who want to isolate the Turkish Cypriots from the world with the

expressions of embargo and isolation, first is the former Turkish

Cypriot leader Rauf Denktas who tried to deceive the Turkish Cypriots

in the past by using the world embargo and now the Turkish Cypriot

leader Mehmet Ali Talat who is trying to continue the same mentality by

changing the terminology to isolation."

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
17/01/2009 22:21

Well it was not me Mark so that narrows it down a bit.

MUSIN M


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Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 22:43

mmmmmm

you mention the word embargo ,what embargo if you think there is an embargo in the kktc ,you know very little, we buy anything we want from all over the world and countries sell it to us ,even lemons from argentina.



isolation ,well now how about you tell these good people who really believe keeps us isolated .



musin

long live the kktc

Turtle


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Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 22:51

I often wonder about embargoes because when you look around you can buy anything from HP sauce to a Toyota pick-up.

I know it comes via Turkey but does it all come from that source ?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/01/2009 09:45

Hi AJ re my msg 7 and your 8



It was a TC :o



"Turkish Cypriot daily Kibris newspaper (16.01.09) reports that the

Cyprus Turkish Teachers Trade Union (KTOS) organized yesterday a

demonstration in order to protest against the Turkish Cypriot leader

Mehmet Ali Talat. KTOS said that Mr Talat is trying to prevent the

openings of the Turkish Cypriot Football Association to the world in

the football field. KTOS supported yesterday the Cyprus Peace Platform

with its demonstration entitled Kick at Talat. Mr Sener Elcil, General

Secretary of KTOS, in a speech during the demonstration, said that

those who want to isolate the Turkish Cypriots from the world with the

expressions of embargo and isolation, first is the former Turkish

Cypriot leader Rauf Denktas who tried to deceive the Turkish Cypriots

in the past by using the world embargo and now the Turkish Cypriot

leader Mehmet Ali Talat who is trying to continue the same mentality by

changing the terminology to isolation."

fire starter


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Message Posted:
18/01/2009 18:33

these goverments have kept the tc's in isolation for all these years.

its time for change!

kibris this week showed pictures of people shopping in nicosia and pictures of one person shopping in lefkosa.

i think that sums it up.

musin you are sitting pretty in the uk like many other tc's.

think about what the people who live here rearly need!

the turkish motherland bit has run its course and people now want more.

why should they not have the same as others in the e.u?

any party willing to free the tc's would have my vote.

sorry i forgot , i left my rights along with the one to vote in the uk.

maybe thats why the gov last year gave out loads of kimlik cards to the turkish?

at least they know which way they would vote.

us euopeans can't be trusted.lol.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
18/01/2009 18:40

hi musim yes we can get lots of things here now but at what price. these people are part of europe but isolation denies them thier rights. This could set te standard for many a huam rights claim Fire starter well said you sum it up well done xx

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/01/2009 19:54

FS re 12



"kibris this week showed pictures of people shopping in nicosia and pictures of one person shopping in lefkosa. " ?? Aren't they one and the same place? ;) .. I know what you meant.. *Lefkosia*.. "it's all Greek to me" - if you know what I mean ! :P



Musin - have you forgotten the "this country is ours!" movement from 2002/3 ? ..for those who aren't aware this was TCS protesting that THEY wanted to choose their path, and how close their ties with the GCs ( as part of an EU Cyprus) and Turkey was to be...

fire starter


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Message Posted:
18/01/2009 20:01

mmmmm

it was showing the economys from either side, the south showing sales.

and lefkosa showing no customers, well only one.

MUSIN M


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Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
18/01/2009 22:32

well rose

one is better then none,dear oh dear you are the most funniest person .



firstly i did not state what party i personally would be voting for ,however it is clear what the majority of turks will be voting for the" ubp" it tells you where the turkish are at this moment and also how they are thinking.



musin

long live the kktc

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 11:39

Hi F-S.. re msg 15 .. I was being IRONIC ;) re the use of two names for the same place ..!



re 16 ..Do you mean Turks as in real Turks and not Turkish Cypriots?

fire starter


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Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
19/01/2009 14:02

yes the mainland turks who have relocated here.



my turkish friend was told to come back in april for his hip replacement as the goverment would be willing to do it for free then.

its all about buying votes.



musin do you have a vote in the uk? i guess you do.

lucky you!!