2009 - Turkey's EU aspirations tested

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 14:22

Hi from the BBC news site



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7837145.stm



"games" now being played..



1/ TR plays it's "energy hand" with a threat to withdraw support for an alternative pipeline route..



2/ the EU frustrated by lack of progress and TR's insistence that more in done to end TC isolation



3/ EU want TR to open up ports / airspace to RoC ships / planes in accordance with an agreement TR has signed.. but won't implement because of point 2/



Ever decreasing circles...:(



*I* WANT TR in the EU, but who will "blink" ?

Biker



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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 15:02

As always for any agreement to be successfull there must be intention to give and take by both parties.



( Ver gülüm, al gülüm. ) as they say.



Biker

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 15:04

The question that needs answering is:

Does EU need Turkey more than Turkey needs EU?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 15:25

Hi "TRNC"Vaughan,



a good question.. and perhaps with less domestic distractions we might see a development, either way, this year.



The crunch point- as always- is Cyprus ..

CJtill


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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 15:32

The crunch point as ive always seen it is what the Greek Cypriot church want (all and now).

So goodbye Turkey in the EU, and goodbye to the solving of the Cyprus problem.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 17:16

re msg 5 CJtill



..and how does the Cyprus Orthodox Church influence EU members and the pace of TR's EU accession...



Do you think the RoC would veto ))))) ?

karakum5c



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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 17:30

The Greek Cypriot church has great influence in the south and will try at every opportunity to keep the present situation going...!

Macha


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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 17:40

But the church does not have a seat in the EU or the UN for that matter, so the point being made is totally irrelevant. The bishops may have a domestic voice but no more than that.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/01/2009 17:42

Thank you, Macha..

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
20/01/2009 10:33

The church in RoC has too much influence over politicians and voters alike. Thank God (?) for the secular state we live in.

fire starter


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Message Posted:
20/01/2009 14:19

on bbc world new this morning we were laughting about how this was reported.

the guy said that turkey was not open to the greek cypriots.

instead of explaining that it was greek cypriot ships and planes which turkey wasn't open to.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
20/01/2009 14:31

Dear "TRNC"Vaughan



Yes, the Church has had an influence .. but like the RC Church in Eire, it is now showing the signs of dwindling.



However, as has been pointed out.. the path of TR to the EU is now up to TR and other EU members..



The Roc, if it EVER used the veto, would lose all "cred" and a way would be found to give special status to TCs..and a move to remove the power of Veto would pass through the EU - even if Greece tried to delay it.