The true cost of property compensation?

Reproman


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 252

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 20:38

With all this talk about compensation over property.



What about the price the TCs have paid over the past 35yrs years, living under embargoes, limited freedom and lack of basic human rights?



TCs have been denied the right to develop, prosper and move forward for nearly 4 decades.

This has had a devesating and long lasting effect on all TC's, living in a 'blackhole'.

Years of poor education, health care and work prospects for a whole generation of Turkish Cypriots have been denied and blocked.



Many have been forced to move abroad to find work and better their lives...thus being seperated from family and loved ones back home in Cyprus.



My question is...what is the 'price' of this compensation?





Repro.

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 21:14

a very valid point repro,



for all the bleating, breast-beating and handwringing about builds on scrubland

the illegal embargoes have been constructed deviously, are inhumane

and will stifle the trust and partnership essential for any agreed "settlement"



I wonder whether those who say they support the "re-unification" of cyprus

stop to think exactly why it is was only a dream, now evaporating by the day



andre

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 21:16

and who`s to blame for the above mentioned!!!!!!!!! TURKEY!!

andre 514


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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 21:26

re: message 3 juliet:



see what I mean?



andre

BigBen


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 21:31

Turkey is the last to be blame.

Reproman


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Posts: 252

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 21:34

juliet: - and the greeks / greek cyrpiots had no part to play?



please answer.





Repro.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 22:08

Dear Reproman re msg 1



"What about the price the TCs have paid over the past 35yrs years, living under embargoes, limited freedom and lack of basic human rights?



TCs have been denied the right to develop, prosper and move forward for nearly 4 decades."



One's viewpoint depends whether you saw the attitude of TCs who held power in the govt of the early 60's as wishing to *try* to make things work - or deliberately seeking to be difficult - make govt unworkable.



I have my doubts re Mr Denktash's agenda - believing it was TAKSIMist even then - and he had little regard for how TCs would be affected - and how they would STILL leave in droves - AFTER 74 - as his "homeland experiment" was largely shunned by the outside world - save Turkey...



How can GCs be blamed for problems from 1974 - 2004.. Face it. they were mostly down to the actions of Turkey and those it put in "power".

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 22:30

mmmm

you started off your posts by stating you were not biased in any way,and you were fairminded,just,objective and neutral.



reading your posts now as a turkish cypriot i find them pro greek and anti turkish.



if you were in any shape or form impartial,you certainly do not write that way and you do not know anything about cypriots ,turkish or greek.



suzanne

turkey will not be going anywhere and you must learn to share this beautiful cyprus ,the kktc is here for ever,and if you want to blame someone start asking questions closer too home and stop saying turkey ,turkey ,turkey.



musin

long live the kktc

daily


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Posts: 84

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 22:54

There are messages for you on another thread marky m - hope you've seen them.



D'y know what I find most upsetting about your posts - it's your absolute lack of acknowledgement of the comparative standards of living of your average Greek Cypriot family with their Turkish Cypriot counterparts.



I agree with Musin - you are not impartial, but more disturbing is your utter lack of compassion. You love to spout chapter and verse about what you perceive to be past wrongdoings, all in support of those who prosper whilst ignoring - or rather, showing utter contempt for - the obvious needs of those who don't.



But you won't change and I reckon 4 years of you is enough for anyone.

Enough - I am done!

LeylaS


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 39

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 22:57

Well said Musin. I don't waste my time with these comments any more. It's a 35 year old time warp, the same rubbish goes around and around. I'll be heading off to Cyprus soon, I will sit on my terrace in Girne, open up a bottle of wine and appreciate the beauty of Cyprus.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 23:17

Dear LeylaS re msg 10



but is it YOUR terrace.. I know you don't care or wish to be "bothered".. enjoy your time .. one good thing about the Cyprus problem.. up until c.2000 the north was unspoilt..



It is sad to see the TCs didn't learn from the mistakes not so far to the south...



I'm no fan of Mr D nor Mr P ( who is no longer with us) .. neither of them will ultimately be seen to have done their people's causes any long-term good.



For those of you who can't / won't see the difference between the immorality of paying back oppression and ethnic cleansing with the same in a bigger fashion - followed by "cashing in" by selling what wasn't theirs to sell...



If I was a TC pointing out this- as has so recently been published - the legal warnings to Mr Denktash re "exchanging land" coming back to haunt - I wonder if Musin and co would say the former AG was a GC stooge ?! ;)

andre 514


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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 23:26

leylaS,



make mine a gold fassel please



andre

WAZ-24-7



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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 00:34

My own view on the nature of compensation.



It is well documented that both GC and TC communities suffered significant attrocities in the dark 1960 and early seventies.



Harmonization, convergence,Retribution, compensation and exchange are currently being circulated as the prongs for settlement.



Compensation or rather support for the Island has come in the way of EU funding and further funding is on the cards when settlement is achieved. Both ROC and TRNC have been recipients of significant funding.



Past historical differences must be put aside and both parties should capitalise on the clear opportunity for financial and economic gain,the prospect of a better quality of life. Parties should rise together to promote the sympathetic exhistance of two individual communities on a single politically unified Island.



This will provide the compensation that is deserving of all parties and most individuals.

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 02:20

warren i dont post often but have been reading your posts for the last few days with interest,

where as most posters have been very one sided towards the south your posts are very informative and spoken with real understanding and care,

not lowering your self to write tit for tat well done and keep up the good work



mark

maybemike


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 07:53

dear mmmmmmmmmmmm, why are you so anti,is it because your wife prob with visas, maybe she was mistaken as a nightclub worker

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 07:58

msg15



bit below the belt for you mike!

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 08:28

msg 16



why is it below the belt, what has he said that would make you say that.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 08:46

Dear "Maybe" re msg 15



"anti" what.. could you be more specific, please... ?!





I can confirm that I am "anti" folk who, when they aren't smart enough to contribute anything to a debate, *think* how / where I met my wonderful wife is going to irritate me ... :P





Suggest you keep Wives out of it, as the type of support you *attract* for such witty comments speaks volumes... !! ;)

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 09:23

I can be very specific mmmmmmmm you are anti TRNC and imo you should be banned just as Pike was...you support the south and attempt to put the tc's down every time your fingers hit your keyboard.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 09:26

You are one of those ppl who light the blue touch paper and stand well back, I would hazzard a guess that you have few friends but several enemies.

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 09:59

msg19



Not one of us is against the tcs! all we want is for this island to be one again! the past is the past & all cypriots should be allowed to move forward, why do you think Mr c & mr T are in talks! it`s only some of the expats for there own reasons that don`t want the island to prosper......

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 10:26

Dear Dee re msg 19/20



I am NOT anti TC.. I am pro settlement and TCs REALLY having a say in a truly autonomous assembly.



I wouldn't expect you to understand, but creating and maintaining "TRNC" has to be recognised is THE very thing that GCs can keep using to "bash" TCs and "exclude" them..



Always a pleasure....

LeylaS


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 39

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 12:28

mmmmmm, thank you, I will enjoy my wine on my terrace that has been in my family for generations. I'd offer you a drink like Andre who wants a Gold Fassel but your fall from your high horse will no doubt mean that you need to go home and change before sitting down for a drink?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 12:51

Dear LeylaS



You'll forgive me for wondering, but you posted that your family's house was in the south..



from : http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/10135.asp



msg 27





"I have visited my family's property in the South with my relatives.....They now live in Turkish titled property on the North so it's not like they have anything to gain and they are too old to go through another move (which won't happen anyway)."



I certainly won't be "falling" and I'm very careful were I walk... ;)

LeylaS


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 39

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 13:10

Your investigative skills seem to be on par with your horse handling skills. Perhaps you have not read what you just copied and pasted. I said "they NOW live in Turkish titled property". My Grandmother is from the South and has a lot of property there, my Grandfather is from the North hence my family have property on both the North and South, and now they live on the North. I'll leave some humble pie out for you and your horse so you have something to eat when you arrive, Cypriots are hospitable people after all ;)

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 17:44

Juliet and mmmmm, I most certainly do not want the North to remain isolated, quite the reverse in fact but not at the expense of more misery and oppression for the TC's at the mercy of the South, you however both think the only way forward is for the South to once again to rule ....



When you have both dusted yourselves off from your rather ungraceful fall, maybe then you will see sense...oh and I think you owe an apology to Leyla

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 00:36

but dee,



there is nothing "wrong" or "right" for the south to rule again in the north:



remember we are all just the tiniest of grains in an ever-expanding cosmos



and also, as an outsider, i'd feel uneasy about telling cypriots what to think



and as if anyone could anyway!



they'll have their reunification, or not, and then the most earnest contributors



on this forum will feel sad or glad depending which side they ..um... "support"



as if it made a blind bit of difference anyway!



yours shaking head sadly,



andre

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 01:49

deecyprus: "you should be banned just as Pike was"



Doesn't look like he has been banned. Still listed as a top poster too.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 09:28

Dear LeylaS re msg 25



Thank you for explaining... "my investigative skills" merely involved remembering what you had posted " about *you* living in a TR titled house that had "been in the family for generations" then referring to "visting my family's property in the South with my relatives"



I'm happy to eat "humble pie" and apologise, if you were offended, but I sought clarification.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 09:38

Dear Dee re msg 26



Can't speak for Juliet, but *I* believe that TCs have isolated themselves.. However, did those "crafty£ GCs get a UN Security Council resolution telling all nations not to "recognise" an illegal regime ?..



Since 2004, when TCs voted to end that isolation, there can be no doubt a new era had arrived .



GCs aren't deliberately "hurting" TCs.. they are welcome to work and live in the "rump" RoC and can even take action to have their property returned.. ( the six months residency rule is WRONG and will be challenged at the ECHR -if it isn't amended, soon )



They want *Turkey* out - not to go about oppressing TCs - they are in the EU , now and your "blinkered" mis-trustful attitude, is based on ignorance, through enforced separation..



Talking of apologies.. I seem to remember - you owe some us us one re Mosques in the "south"......... ?

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 09:59

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



You have named one that was rebuilt with american money ...why did it need to be rebuilt...and only because of its international importance for the Muslim world...The Sultan Mosque in Larnaca.





Try to be a little less patronising and read the link I have attached..You never know it may just educate you a little.



http://www.unhchr.ch/Huridocda/Huridoca.nsf/0/bb49149336b43437c1256b53005217b6/$FILE/ATT1MVZ0/G0116514.pdf



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------





So I think an apology is not required and is most certainly not heading your way

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 10:20

no answer mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 10:30

Dear Dee, re msg 31



I also mentioned the Mosque in Larnaca ( central) , and those in Lima(s)sol .. I could mention many more... but only one was needed to prove you were wrong and demonstrate you wouldn't keep your "promise" to apologise...!!



The Hala Sultan Tekke Mosque is being *restored* (in the same way, as say, Gloucester Cathedral) .. not rebuilt.. and with RoC, ( there is a custodian responsible for these buildings) and UN/ EU money, too !





It's ok Dee, I never expected you to admit you were *wrong*... predicable, though...





Your historical factual posts re Cyprus are always "interesting"... try not to get banned so often.. I miss your posts !

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 10:40

dee. message 31. An excellent link which I had not seen before. Thanks for putting it on here for all to read.

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 10:52

No1 it is a good link and no thanks needed.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 10:53

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm did you read the link, you havent commented yet...lost for words maybe, or too embarrassed to rear your ugly head again.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 11:01

Dee re msg 36



No I haven't read the link, as I'm using a PDA at a hotel..!



I'm intrigued as to what info there'll be that "let's you off the hook" re the Mosques that "were destroyed and desecrated in the south"....

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 11:03

I will post the relevant parts here for you to read mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



then you can comment

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 12:02

have email it to you

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 13:01

Dear Dee re msg 38



Ok,so I have read it..It is a letter on file at the UN from a "TRNC" minister.



I could post this letter from the RoC minister responsible to the UN, and if you want, I will...



1/ I did not know about the mosque in Paphos. I will ask about it and revert..



2/ You claimed that the Mosques in the RoC were destroyed / desecrated.. so we know of ONE.. pulled down for a new road... and I don't know enough to comment if a new one was built elsewhere.



We do know that this can be the only incident -otherwise I'm sure the "TRNC Minister" would have raised it..



So, this is a "Red Herring" "defence" to an incorrect statement you made..



There are many recorded incidents of desecrations - not even for "road improvements"



3/ Let's deal with one example : the "collection of Icons" from St Barnabus Church - north of Famagusta - just off the road towards Bogaz(i) ..

Discuss :The treatment of the Priests ( harassment) and where did all these icons come from ?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 13:23

( cont)



suggest we start a new thread to discuss and be prepared... you will see that you have dug a VERY big hole for yourself..



I will dig out the" cries of anger from TCs" living in the north about the way artefacts were, and recent cases are still "desecrated.



Be patient, Dee, I want to be SURE you see your "folly"...



But be sure to remember this is sad, but nothing as important as injury, loss of life, or the pain of ethnic cleansing..



This will be more about "educating" you ;)

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 14:52

mmmmmmmmm obvioulsy you have read but not digested what it said...you will always try to defend the South...how sad you are.



Mosques, shrines and other places of muslim worship in 103 villages across the island were destroyed..



It is you that needs the education matey ...not me.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 14:55

I suggest you read it again as you must either be blind or never bright enough to read properly, maybe janet and john books are a more suitable reading for you.

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 15:21

mmmmmmmm,



can you explain simply, just for me, in words of one syllable:



what's "in it for you"?



can't find the muti-posting you referrred to earlier



andre

brandy sour


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Posts: 310

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 17:56

I think this discussion needs to be shut down there must be a moderator some where

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 21:12

just watched the cyprus news, very interesting to see the amount of new propertys being built in the famagusta area on gc land! looks like compensation at todays land rate was being discussed!

WAZ-24-7



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Posts: 695

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 21:45

Msg 31 Dee,



I very interesting link indeed.

A member of my family on the Island ( Paphos}in the 60,s has indeed made several written references to the destruction and plundering of Turkish mosques as well as cultural and ancesteral sites. The perpertrators were not identified but it is suggested that Greek oportunist antiquity dealers were responsible.

No doubt mmmmmmm will contra the link and attempt to rubbish the letter and its references. Woops....he already has!!

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 21:57

instead of all this bickering why don`t you all take a drive around the south of the island & go see all the mosques, there are plenty to see that are well maintained.maps are also available!



i have tons of pics of the desercrated cemetarys & churches on the north or does nobody drive round the north to see the distruction?

WAZ-24-7



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Posts: 695

Message Posted:
10/02/2009 22:06

Juliet,

Thank you for your bold suggestion.

I very much hope that the historical events listed in the Turkish ministers letter(msg31) have now ceased.

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
11/02/2009 06:48

Brandysour why do you want this thread closed.. it is vitally important that these atrocities toward the religious sites are not forgotten or whitewashed over by the likes of mmmmmmmmmmm and juliet.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
11/02/2009 06:52

WAZ I think it is quite sad really that posters like mmmmmmmmm and juliet suffer from tunnel vision, and yes of course mmmmmm has rubbished it already.



I just don't understand the joy he gets from his feeble attempts to justify, excuse and refuse to accept what really happened.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
11/02/2009 06:53

Juliet could you or mmmmmmmm provide me with a detailed list of undamaged mosques in the greek occupied south of the island

juliet


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Posts: 612

Message Posted:
11/02/2009 09:53

msg 52



you obviously didn`t read msg 48!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
11/02/2009 11:02

Dear Dee re 42, etc. I did ask you to be patient and I will post a lot of independent data.. much of it from TCs who were ashamed of what was going on..



.. I could post it NOW, but I have written to them.. asking for permission to use their words and quote the sources..



Until I get a response, we much all be patient..



As for a list of "undamaged" Mosques.. You've had a fair list of ones from three posters, and you need only take a drive along the Mways of the "rump" RoC and count the numerous Minarets you'll se, and check 'em out for yourself..nothing like seeing is believing..



This has nothing to do with bias.. you made a statement whilst being your (sadly) rude self - which resulted in the latest ban - you made a promise and broke it..



BandySour is sort of correct.. this thread has gone off topic - it was about property compo - and I apologise for my part in taking it off thread. When I can post it will be under a new thread.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
11/02/2009 11:10

mmmmmm of course you would agree with brandysour as you know you are wrong and are trying to wriggle out of your embarassment...understandable I guess as you think you are always right ..also I have driven along the motorways in the south and have yet to spot a minaret...but seeing as you think you are the font of all knowledge perhaps you could furnish me with the villages and geograpy of these mosques, I await your long, detailed and of course incorrect response.

throstle


Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 85

Message Posted:
11/02/2009 11:36

All postings regarding, unification, way forward etc

You have forgot the pre EU vote when unification was an issue

TC voted yes GC voted NO (and EU still let them join)

So whats changed, except GC now are dictating there solution, sob stories more than ever



Perhaps posters should read more accounts on the island situation before the arrival of the Turkish army

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 00:48

deecyprus:



''also I have driven along the motorways in the south and have yet to spot a minaret...but seeing as you think you are the font of all knowledge perhaps you could furnish me with the villages and geograpy of these mosques, I await your long, detailed and of course incorrect response.''



The trick ıs actually lookıng properly. From the motorway try Epıskopı vıllage for starters or dıd as I dıd last nıght and take a stroll across the Green Lıne ınto southern Nıcosıa. You wıll fınd about three mosques ın easy walkıng dıstance.



How well do you really know Cyprus and how well-travelled and wordly are you? It's only a small ısland really.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 01:12

Dear Dee - re msg 57



"you know you are wrong and are trying to wriggle out of your emba[r]rassment"



I did say be patient - WHY would I be embarrassed?! - I'm not making a fool of myself by suggesting something that any person with reasonable eyesight can see for themselves..



I'm CERTAINLY not going to list where to find every Mosque as the Minarets are numerous enough..



I've told you about Larnaca and Limas(s)ol, Macha has told you about Nicosia and LOADS of folk about Hala Sultan Tekke.



There are MANY practising Muslims in Lima(s)sol - where do you think worship ?!



For now here's the RoC website for Doha



http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/embassies/embassy_doha.nsf/misc_en/8367AC21D2B39069432572E400246FC3?OpenDocument



a pure work of fiction, of course... ;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 02:23

Dear Throstle re msg 56



"You have forgot the pre EU vote when unification was an issue

TC voted yes GC voted NO (and EU still let them join) "



..and WHY would you say that was?



"So whats changed, except GC now are dictating there solution, sob stories more than ever "



Please define "Sob stories"..



"Perhaps posters should read more accounts on the island situation before the arrival of the Turkish army"



Ok, many of us have - and we still can't agree.. Luckily we have the good old ECHR ..

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 02:30

Reproman,msg 1,that is a very interesting point and one I suspect that has been under the radar of lawyers from elsewhere bothered about the HR,s of everyone except TC's.Of course there are some on the forum,who obviously feel that TC,s dont have HR's,and that the Turks are to blame for everything......I smell xenophobia again........anyone mention Juliet ?

clarets



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Posts: 752

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 02:39

mmmmmm showing his one-eyed views again in message 7 and onwards.Your Dad,Demise Rousos ?If not he should adopt you.Seldom have I come across such closed ,narrow-minded bigotry,whilst paying lipservice to the PC democratic process.Previously,I felt you had some degree of intellect and common sense.I now see,only too clearly that my mistake was not underestimation of those qualities,but gross overestimation.

rowlo



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 02:42

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm juliet , macha oh how small your minds and grey matter really are , you have no interest in trnc , you get your kicks winding people up on this forum spouting how wrong it was for turkey to invade ? when all along you know that greece invaded and murdered tcs start your own forum you pretrncious bastxxds

clarets



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 02:49

Dee msg 26,good point and very intuitive.mmmmm's intellectual "high-ground" is positively sub-terranean.As for friends,his Mother probably sends RSVP invitations once a year!

juliet


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Posts: 612

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 07:58

msg62



wheres the mods when you need them?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 09:16

Dear Clarets re 60



Again, I note you'd rather be rude to "Juliet" than ask yourself an obvious Q.. Do you think TCs are less savvy "tribe" than GCs? You surely must...



A TC has just the same right to go to the ECHR as a GC or any other person .



Suggest you figure out why TCs have had to take TR to court - and won - just to be able to freely move around the island.



Suggest your olfactory senses may be impaired..!



re 61, Nothing worthy of comment - My wonderful Dear departed Dad's ethnicity should, of course be of no importance - but decidedly - Anglo-saxon, much slimmer and he couldn't sing ;)



re 63 Wow, you mention my Mum, too - she came for Lunch yesterday - do you require info re her lineage, too :P?



re 64 Juliet : I suspect Clarets was "home alone" and imbibing as he typed..better to leave his "poisoned pen" for all to judge ..



Noli illegitimi, and all that... ;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 09:31

Dear Rowlo re msg 62



"mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm juliet , macha oh how small your minds and grey matter really are , you have no interest in trnc , you get your kicks winding people up on this forum spouting how wrong it was for turkey to invade ? when all along you know that greece invaded and murdered tcs start your own forum you pretrncious bastxxds"



Suggest you don't drink alcohol and type...



This thread is about property and compensation..



I'm sure when you sober up you'll release you don't help your case by "losing it" on a forum...

Macha


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 12:05

rowlo:



''...you get your kicks winding people up on this forum...''



Thıs ıs an amusıng sıde effect when engagıng wıth unworthy opponents who clearly don't know Cyprus or the Cypriots. You can run rıngs around these people sımply by theır demonstrated lack of background knowledge.



Serıous and ıntellıgent people have serıous and ıntellıgent debates. Can I make ıt any clearer?

daily


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 13:22

Juliet, mmmmmmm, Macha



Nice ring to that - you do go well together! Like the three witches in Macbeth or even, in fact, the three little pigs or the billy goats gruff - trip, trap, trip, trap, blah, blah, blah - who leave a pile of s*** wherever they go!



You're just three inadequate playground bullies out to pour your own misery on others. I really do hope you folks are picking up a wage for all your ****-stirring, because it would be incredibly sad if you weren't.



Macha - 'unworthy opponents' ? Who wants to fight?

This is the happy playground - go away.

And for God's sake, you sanctimonious twit - you might be 'serious' and you might be 'intelligent', but you certainly ain't happy.



mmmmmmmm - I know what I would choose!



Go out and make some friends - you three do absolutely nothing for the profile of Greek Cypriots or their cause!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 14:17

Dear Daily, re msg 68



What's the matter - no Valentine's card? ... The thread is about Property and compo..



Can't speak for t'other two posters you singled out but I have some really important news for you.. I'm posting my opinions and I speak for no-one but me.. !



If you don't like what you read you can ignore it, or put a reasoned debate..



One thing is for sure.. you don't seem to be able to do either..

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 14:19

Actually daily I think they sound like the bitches of eastwick ...not one of them has a credible thing to say and yes, they do more harm than good ...shame really..their greek paymasters must be getting short changed

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 14:46

Dear Dee, re msg 70



"not one of them has a credible thing to say" ..



subjective comment - no substance...



"they do more harm than good ...shame really..their greek paymasters must be getting short changed "



.. I assume you'd be meaning Greek CYPRIOT "paymasters"...



Wow, these GCs must sure be "paying" all those judges at the ECHR, ECJ, UN etc at lot of money...



*IF* you paid attention you'd realise the only chq , I waiting for from the RoC is the compensation for preventing my Wife being treated as an EU Dependent - a nor being allowed to work..



OH, I sorry, forgot - accuracy and attention to detail - not something you worry about...



Did you find the 100+ Mosques in the "rump" RoC yet... ?

cronos


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 14:49

mmmmm...msg 71....why waste your breath mate?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 14:57

Thanks Cronos re msg 72, I think you can guess.. I'm waiting for Dee to apologise and the eclipse of Earth's two moons;)

daily


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 15:45

Now that's funny - your concern for my Valentine's Day then reminding me that this thread is about property and compensation.



I have dealt with that issue on another thread - as you well know - and unlike you, old-timer, I don't like repeating myself.



Anyway, since we're going off topic - try spreading a little love around on this forum instead of your usual controversy and contempt.



Love 'n' hugs xxx

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 15:55

Dear Daily, I'm reading 68 and then this msg 74 and wondering if something brightened your day..



BETTER .... ;)

daily


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 16:12

Now that's the problem with misrepresentation on forums - here's me trying to be all sarcastic and you're feeling love and bonding!



Be 'better' yourself - you are really positive on the thread about great nights out in North Cyprus.



If you don't like being compared with Nasty Macha and Juvenile Juliet, keep this up, and stop showing us your nasty side.

juliet


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 16:14

sticks & stones comes to mind...



Some people are very defensive when faced with the truth!

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 16:14

mmmmmmmmm there's 1 lira go ring someone who gives a ****..hell will freeze over before I apologise to a smug, self opinionated little banker like you



Enjoy your evening..at least it wont cost you so much lol.

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 16:28

I am about to close down this thread. Two opposing sides have now developed who are now in conflict. You have moved away from the topic and are exchanging insults.

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 16:29

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was serving no purpose.