Help needed for a book ....

tommy13


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27/05/2009 11:37

Our new Hotel project will be called The Ikon - It will be an Iconic building but more than that it will pay homage to Cypriot history and to its 'Icons'. Suites will be named after them , i.e The Lionheart Suite..etc etc ,

the hotel is creating a book called 'The Ikons of Cyprus ' , It will be an illustrative book listing the notable figures throughout the history of Cyprus. It Will include a large image and a brief description to who they are and there relation to Cyprus on each page. They will be available in all the rooms for guests to look through and learn something about the rich past of the island aswell as being offered for sale to them and to the public. So far we have identified 282 notable figures. What id like is if any of you can come up with any people throughout its history that we have missed out and should be mentioned....please no obvious ones as im sure we know about them , its the more obscure figures we may have missed out,

britvic



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 11:42

Tommy, I'm not being cheeky or rude but........................................................................Is someone posting for you this morning?

tommy13


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27/05/2009 11:43

Some obscure examples we have are Leonardo Da Vinci , Dionysus , The Amazons ( female warriors ) , Othello , Saint Mamas, Persaeus , Jaques De Molay , Raja Dato Ashman Shah ( Malaysian Prince ) , David Haye , Barbarrosa etc etc

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 11:44

No Britvic , its me , your the second person to accuse me of this ... does me versatility confuse you ?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 11:44

How about Eric Seans. He was famous )

britvic



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 11:48

Tommy wrote "No Britvic , its me , your the second person to accuse me of this ... does me versatility confuse you ?"



That's more like it!

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 11:52

Hi tommy13,



Did you get my last e-mail, ref drawings, spec., etc?

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 11:55

Thanks Britvic Eric Seans ? ill look him up Doyen .. Vaiughan , yes im aware you cannot open the autocad mechanical pool drawings , i will try to come by your office with them at some point , we still have time as we are just doing the piling of the building now

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:05

who is eric seans doyen ?

britvic



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:08

Ha, ha, You have started something now Bill! Your just cruel!

eager


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:09

Tommy, You ever thought of running for Prime Minister in your spare time ?

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:14

lol, eager ,,, id get assisinated quickly for my radicalist reforms

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:15

and i have far too many skeletons in my closet .. the smear campaigners will have a feild day ,

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:16

Tommy

'who is eric seans'



Don't you mean 'who was eric seans'?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:23

RE msg 1, tommy13 > Our new Hotel project will be called The Ikon.



=> Hi Tommy! What is your particular position in the organization (commonly identified by: job title), if I may ask?

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:23

I havn't a clue who he is or was .. cant find anybody notable by that name on a web search ???

sienna


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:25

tommy boy they are winding you up take no notice forget eric seans !!! )

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:27

hi dutch.. i was counting on you for some constructive contribution to this thread I am one of the Investor/Owners

blackjock


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:29

Aye, Tommy,

Would it be possible to make an early booking to the Debbie Does Dallas suite?

She was a bit of a movie icon i recall.

blackjock

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:32

Tommy, Eric Seans aka many other names, is/was one of the most notorious posters on this forum. Most of the membership on here couldn't tolerate his persistent comments (often truthful) about the trnc.



I'm pretty sure he's part of the history of the 'new' Cyprus. )

DutchCrusader



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27/05/2009 12:34

RE msg 18, tommy13 > hi dutch.. i was counting on you for some constructive contribution to this thread <



=> Count on me, Tommy! And I'm looking forward to the first *result* of your announcements. Do keep us informed, please...

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:34

ah i see ... lol , ok ,, i think thats post tommy13 era .. i wouldnt know of him

eager


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:40

Just a suggestion, What about the Gary Robb you blind suite ?

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:41

Thanks Dutch ,, promise will keep you informed of my own ventures and those of others and other info's that may be of interest to everyone ....

There must be some well informed or well read folk who may be able to find a name we dont already have ?

come on chaps

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:41

Science & Philosophy

Zeno of Kitium - Phonecian-Cypriot Philosopher and the founder of the Stoic School of thought.



Leaders, Royals & Politicians

Caterina Cornaro - The last reigning Queen of Cyprus during the Lusignan/Venetian periods.

Mehmed Kiamil Pasha - Cypriot Grand Vizier (Prime Minister) of the Ottoman Empire)

Kibrisli Mehmed Emin Pasha - Cypriot Grand Vizier (Prime Minister) of the Ottoman Empire)

Dr Niyazi Manyera - Medical doctor, politician and the first Minister of Health of the Republic of Cyprus

Makarios III - Archbishop of the Greek-Orthodox Church of Cyprus and the first President of the Republic of Cyprus

Dr Fazil Küçük - The first Vice-President of the Republic of Cyprus

Osman Örek - Academic, author, lawyer and the first Minister of Defence of the Republic of Cyprus

Rauf Raif Denktash - Turkish-Cypriot leader and the President of the Republic of Cyprus

Glafcos Clerides - Leader of the Greek-Cypriot Community

No1Doyen


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27/05/2009 12:42

Arts

Osman Türkay - Turkish-Cypriot poet, nominated for Nobel prize.

George Michael - British Greek-Cypriot musician, pop singer

Hussein Chalayan - British Turkish-Cypriot fashion designer

Tracey Emin - British Turkish-Cypriot conceptual artist

Sports

Fatima Whitbread - British Turkish-Cypriot Olympic medallist athlete

Muzzy Izzet - British Turkish-Cypriot Premier League Football (Soccer) player in England

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:45

Asil Nadir - Former CEO of Polly Peck International PLC

Mehmet Ali Talat - President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (recognised only by Turkey)

Ulus Baker - Sociologist

Feri Cansel - Actress

Hüseyin Çağlayan - Fashion Designer

Meral Hussein Ece OBE - Councillor for the London Borough of Islington, UK

Tracey Emin - Artist

Leon Osman - Everton Football Player

Kemal Izzet - Colchester United Football Player

Okan Ersan - Blues and Jazz Guitar Virtuose

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:46

Nil Burak - Singer

Ziynet Sali - Singer

Metin Huseyin - Film Director

Tamer Hassan - Actor

Sezer Yurtseven - British Big Brother 7 contestant

Hal Ozsan - Actor (Dawson's Creek, Kyle XY)

Mehmet Zeka - High Court Judge, Represented Cyprus at European Court of Human Rights from 1961

Alp Mehmet - UK Ambassador to Iceland 2004 - 2008

Colin Kazim-Richards - Fenerbahce and Turkey Football Player

Lawrence Rustem - BNP British National Party Councillor for Barking and Dagenham

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:47

Thats more like it Doyen , I have all of those apart from Dr Niyazi Manyera and Osman Orek , Thanks ill look into them , well done ...

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 12:47

Kıbrıslı Mehmed Emin Pasha - 3-times Ottoman Empire Grand Vizier in mid-19th century

Kıbrıslı Mehmed Kamil Pasha- 5-times Ottoman Empire Grand Vizier in late-19th and early-20th century

Alparslan Türkeş - Far Right Nationalist Leader in Turkey

Fazıl Küçük - First Vice-President of the Republic of Cyprus

Mehmet Nazım Adil - Naqshbandi Sufi Shaykh

Vamik Volkan - Psychoanalyst and Author

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 13:06

Ok doyen , vamik volkan , mehmet zeka, hal ozsan , ziynet sali and fari censel are also new to me also , the rest i have , i was hoping for some more historical figures going back more than atleast a century , still debating till how recent we should take the book and if we should include some controversial people or not , You seem well read and informed , I want to be unbias and include conytmeporary greek and turkish even british iconic figures , but its starts to get sensitive , if i include , nikos sampson , makarios , etc , who were iconic for the Gc's , i want it to be unbiased , do u think i should take it all the way from the Khirikitians ( Cyprus 1st known settlement ) all the way to today ??

dav88



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 13:14

Hey Tommy13



Sorry can not think of anyone that you would not know would need to go through history books but all have been given away.... The hotel sounds like its going to be fabulous and different from all the rest. I am looking to work in PR. Would you be interested in seeing my CV at all? Thanks and good luck

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 13:24

Yes dav88 , its till early days for the particular project as we are awaiting building permits and construction to begin , however by all means send you cv to info@ikontower.com , when our human resources team kicks into play we will consider trnc applicants with favour ...

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 13:25

Tommy, if the proposed illustrative book is about listing the notable figures throughout the history of Cyprus, then you must include all the figures that had a bearing on the country as it is today. Otherwise the book will be deemed bias.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 13:29

Thanks Doyen, yes , i agree , we will probably note every 'iconic' individual and peoples who have had some relation or contribution to the History of Cyprus including the good , bad and the ugly , thnx for your comments

sienna


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 13:32

tommy boy they are winding you up take no notice forget eric seans !!! )

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 13:41

ye i figured that one out sienna, doyen enlightened me on a later post , thanks

Jetski


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 17:49

Hi Tommy - how about Bill Dreghorn - adopted Cyprus in the early 70's, died in 2002 in his 90's. Lived in Girne and Famagusta and wrote many books about local history, archaeology, geography and geology. Even has a street named after him in Gazi.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:04

William 'Bill" Dreghorn , well done jetski ,, overlooked him .... like i said we have over 282 notable figures and its the obscure ones , the ones we have overlooked that we are interested to find so as to have a complete book .. Thanks mate

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:12

Some GC help would be appriciated

Lilli



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:15

What about Laurence Durrell. Tommy you are so mulit talented xx

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:24

thnx lills , come on ,how could i have missed bitter lemons , lol ..

Lilli



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:33

Tommy how indeed thats not like you xxxx

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:45

RE msg 40, tommy13 > Some GC help would be appriciated <



=> You're on the wrong board, matey. However, there's a GC board where they write about you already. A lot. Alas, the only help you can expect there is help with hanging yourself from the roof of the Ikon Tower...



You'll find the board and its threads here: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/ (fasten your seatbelt...)

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:52

I was referring to arbee actually , he seems a knowledgable chappie , thought he may have come up with something interesting ....no i have no interest to go there dutch , theyd hang the lot of us given half the chance

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 18:55

Hans. I don't get it, am I missing something here?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:02

RE msg 46, No1Doyen > Hans. I don't get it, am I missing something here? <



=> Yes, you do, Bill. Some - usually young - fanatics in the Rest of Cyprus (RoC) seem to believe everything they read (on this cyprus44 board) and their comments are more disgusting than frightening.



Try this link [ http://www.cyprus-forum.com/ ] and... happy reading! (They have an excellent search facility on that board; may I suggest you try: tommy or ikon ?)

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:31

Dutch i think you may have me confused with someone who cares what they think in another country

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:49

RE msg 40, tommy13 > Some GC help would be appriciated <



=> That's what you wrote. I pointed at a country where there are plenty of GC's and where they're discussing you (un)happily.



RE msg 40, tommy13 > Dutch i think you may have me confused with someone who cares what they think in another country <



=> You're on thin ice again, buddy, like in this thread [ http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/14997.asp }, where you got confused in own postings also. Read your posting # 31 in this thread also, to refresh your mind.

decanddyl


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:50

Black Jock

Fit like min hoos yer doos wheres hame

decanddyl


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:55

re-msg 23

we like the sound of that one it just rolls of the tongue

it should be a top of the range very expensive suite

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 20:21

RE msg 40, tommy13 > Some GC help would be appriciated <

=> That's what you wrote. I pointed at a country where there are plenty of GC's and where they're discussing you (un)happily.

> Ok Dutch ,, ill post on there and see if your advice yields any results for the book , thanks for you help



RE msg 40, tommy13 > Dutch i think you may have me confused with someone who cares what they think in another country < => You're on thin ice again, buddy, like in this thread [ http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/14997.asp },

> i meant - someone who cares what the GC;s think about investments & projects & progression in the north in particular ,

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 20:28

So anyone else know about any interesting notables from any part of cypriot history thar they think i may have missed out in the list ??

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 20:59

Tommy. The book will end up an encyclopaedia )

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 21:36

bravo arbee, out of your list I have 6 new ones,the rest i had already, well done mate .. so now i have nearly 300 notable individuals and peoples ,Yes Doyen , its going to be a very comprehensive book but unlike an encyclopedia,will be mainly illustrative , i.e 3/4's of the page an image and a 1/4 of a brief description of them and their relationship with Cyprus on each page , Book will be around A4 size, a unique homage to Cypriot history and quite unlike any other book . Easy reading and great for anyone to get an overview of its rich history and importance to many peoples including khirokitians , minoans , hittites , assyrians,mycanaen ,macedonians, phoneacians, sea peoples , byzantium, crusaders , knights templars , english , romans , egyptians , persians ,Islamic Arabs, mamlukes, seljuks, Lusignans , venetians , genoese , british and more, its so fascinating ,i cant imagine another location in the world that has been ruled and passed through so many hands

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 22:37

Rock on Tommy. Cyprus sure has had it's fair share of rulers.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 22:48

u know doyen , ive been trying to find anywhere thats has had as many different overlords/rulers/empires as much as Cyprus has and i cant , it may well be the most jostled over peice of land on earth. The closest i can find is perhaps jeruselem or some other parts of mesopatamia , any historians who know any better please enlighten me , or does Cyprus hold that title ! Another fascinating unique feature ,

ilovekibris


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 23:18

never knew fatima whitbread was a TC...

tommy13


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Message Posted:
27/05/2009 23:32

It seems she was half TC and half GC , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatima_Whitbread

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 00:07

Tommy, message 62. Surprisingly, it's still being jostled over. This time amongst Cypriots themselves.

Magbs


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 00:10

re 62



"The closest i can find is perhaps jeruselem or some other parts of mesopatamia"



Geographically Jerusalem was not a part of Mesopotamia 'cos strictly saying its quite far far away from the land between the rivers.



Anyway, Mesopotamia rules The cradle of civilization, as referred to by Isaak Ozimov (aka Isaac Asimov) in his brilliant history book The Near East - 10,000 Years of History.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 00:12

Now you all you have msse Peter andre ex husband to be of Jordan. Sorry Tommy i know you want histor and boy have you got it. Next one who has made a difference to the trnc. That will be a best seller together with my new novel xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 00:14

Lilli, have you started to pen your new novel yet?

everon


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 00:57

what about the gay one from Wham !!!

Lilli



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 01:10

Hiya mu lovely tommy YES I HAVE xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx now i think you have a whole chapte but maybe the book xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Lilli



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 01:11

I have to tell you that im no Max clifford but it wii be warts and all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 02:07

heyy tommy 13..



i see u tonight above my shop............so many steamy windows.



ive never tasted south african food...maybe it takes along time to cook it...as ur black range rover seems to be there at the address almost above my shop along time!



i often wonderd if SA were as good as they sounded!!



Fill ur boots tommy gunn!!

ilovekibris


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 02:10

msg 71 " but it wii be warts and all "



Liquid nitrogen is good they say...

CyprusChill


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 02:24

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/cater.htm



British Service Men killed on muder mile during the Eoka Campaign.

Those that know, still talk about the people and the areas.



Lets not forget.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 08:04

hey everon , do u mean Andrew Ridgley , ? he wasnt Cypriot no ..

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 08:19

zero , pls try not to post personal info like that on the site pls , thnx

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 08:45

Does anyone think the book should keep with historical people , or perhaps also include 'economical icons ' , ' indigenous icons' ' industrial icons' , ' natural icons ' etc , such as the Carretta sea turtle , mouflon sheep , Damascus Goats , Karpazia Donkeys , helim ( haloumi ) cheese , the olive , several indigenous birds and plant species , sea fauna etc ....???

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 08:50

RE msg 60, tommy13 > crusaders , knights templars , english , romans , egyptians , persians ,Islamic Arabs, mamlukes, seljuks, Lusignans <



=> Hi Tommy, buddy, good morning to you! I know very little, I know, but I'm sure that the Knights Templar and the Lusignans were Crusaders. So be careful to give them all their own page in your book. Furthermore some free advice: do employ a proofreader and let him/her start with the title of your book (see msg # 1).



PS. And I'm REALLY interested to know where you think to find the large illustrations to go with the short descriptions...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 08:54

RE msg 77, tommy13 > Does anyone think the book should keep with historical people , or perhaps also include 'economical icons ' , ' indigenous icons' ' industrial icons' , ' natural icons ' etc , such as the Carretta sea turtle , mouflon sheep , Damascus Goats , Karpazia Donkeys , helim ( haloumi ) cheese , the olive , several indigenous birds and plant species , sea fauna etc ....??? <



=> Absolutely, mate! And don't forget the ex-pats..!

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 09:07

Thanks Dutch ,,, crusaders will certainly get a few pages as they appeared under different guises on severel occasions in cypriot history . Actually images are very easy to find and copy or purchase from the internet.

Your absolutely right about the proof reader, me and my team have collected most of the information needed , i would definately like to hear from anyone here in trnc who can edit, proofread & assist in preparing it ready for print or anyone with experience in putting together such a book.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 09:23

RE msg 80, tommy13 > crusaders will certainly get a few pages as they appeared under different guises on severel occasions in cypriot history . <



=> Oh. When was that?



RE msg 80, tommy13 > Actually images are very easy to find and copy or purchase from the internet. <



=> Oh. Let me know if you find a picture of Sultan Baybars, preferably a photograph.



RE msg 80, tommy13 > Your absolutely right about the proof reader, me and my team have collected most of the information needed , i would definately like to hear from anyone here in trnc who can edit, proofread & assist in preparing it ready for print or anyone with experience in putting together such a book. <



=> Ah! Now I think some retired British journalists and I can help you. But.., you seldom or better: never mention any payment for services rendered to you - how much would you pay for the job mentioned above? Don't be shy, don't send an email - just tell me here.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 09:46

RE msg 81: Toooooommy?!

Trudy


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 09:47

Yes i think you should add in those other bits too. Caretta Caretta, karpaz donkeys, hellim, olive trees etc... Good idea.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 09:59

Tommy. Your book is to be an illustrative book listing the notable figures throughout the history of Cyprus. It Will include a large image and a brief description to who they are and there relation to Cyprus on each page.



I assume then that you will want to detail notable events that have occurred in Cyprus over the years?



On what notable event will the book end?

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 10:08

Hi dutch , you can read about them in the book , there are atleast 7 different rulers of cyprus who partook in and/or aided the crusades .

Baybars image , yes dutch although i have 99% of images associated with 'the icons' some are more difficult to come by , this link is said to be' Baibars punishing Armenians of the Kingdom of Cilicia in 1266. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DisasterOfMari1266.JPG , apparently there is also image of him in Al-Zahiriyah Library which he originally built in syria,damscus cant find it on tthe net , but apparently street sellers have postcards of him outside the library i have managed to find out. When i get my hands on it , i could let u know.,

Pay for work i would simply not discuss that here. I would have to first familiarise myself with the going rate before i would go into negotiations on the matter , which i have yet to do ...

And we would have to agree a truce treaty regards your personal crusade against me , then we may talk , lol

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 10:19

Yes Doyen .. very good point and one if been thinking about , I will probably take consultation at a later date on how to conclude it in the most unnoffensive way to anyone and word it carefully so as to end on a positive note. It will be a homage to cypriot history , No additional politially motivated statements or personal opinions will enter the book , Just a collection of unbiased historical facts as and when they occured. Afterall , its a book first and foremost to compliment our hotel concept & design. We are thinking of dedicating a kind of museum/gallery area somewhere off the lobby and have the book displayed in a gallery form , for tourists and anyone whos interested able to walk in and peruse, even considering the aquisition of antiquities on display relating to the different periods of history , peoples etc , have already spoken to antiquities department regards this , but not sure if we will take it that far yet , but it may become a type of museum boutique hotel ...

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 10:20

Thanks trudy for that

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 10:31

RE msg 85, tommy13 > Baybars or Baibars <



=> Rubbish, Tommy. Your link (what would you be without Wikipedia, eh?) directs us to this description: "The Mamluks defeat the Armenians at the disaster of Mari, in 1266." So what? I'm talking about Baybars (Baibars) who invaded Cyprus in 1426. OK, forget it. Your new proofreader will correct small errors like this one...



RE msg 85, tommy13 > Payment proofreader. Pay for work i would simply not discuss that here. <



=> Yeah, I thought so.



RE msg 85, tommy13 > And we would have to agree a truce treaty regards your personal crusade against me , then we may talk , lol <



=> Until then the slogan of the day is: "A good lie is funnier than a bad book".

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 10:35

RE msg 86, tommy13 > have already spoken to antiquities department <



=> Interesting. I happen to know some people there. Who did you speak to about your idea?

Trudy


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 10:39

What about things such as the wrecks we have here in Cyprus? Is that something that is of any interest? Such as the WW2 plane wreck east of the castle and the ship thats in the castle which dates way back to 300bc. Not sure if its a road you want to go down or not but should you want any info regarding the underwater side of things, i can definitely do my best to help.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 10:51

dutch , im not here to proove any point ....thnx for your contributions some have been helpful ,

Trudy , thats not a bad idea , didnt think of those , they could come under icons of antiquity and architecture.

have made note of that idea too, thank you kindly...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 10:59

RE msg 90, Trudy > Such as the WW2 plane wreck east of the castle <



=> Huh? WW2? You mean the dismantled plane East of St. Hilarion, I suppose? This one: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/S6001681_72.jpg



Not that old a plane... You're confusing our Tommy...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 11:03

RE msg 92: Forgot to add that the Turkish Army (special Commando section) uses the plane to exercise the freeing of hostages during a hi-jack. I was very impressed when I saw them do it! And that is at least one truth in this thread...

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 11:17

and there i was thinking i could pull the wool over you eyes dutch , .....

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 11:34

RE msg 94, tommy13 > i could pull the wool over you eyes <



=> Mate, the Government should hire you for the PR department. You'd probably try to convince us that the new by-pass will be ready soon...

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 11:44

im elated to learn you atleast award me some potential talent ..

btw , the by-pass will be ready soon - im just not allowed to say what time frame 'soon' could mean

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 11:47

The by-pass is opening just after we get direct flights. Shouldn't be too long to wait

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 11:49

RE msg 96, tommy13 > im elated to learn you atleast award me some potential talent .. <



=> Yeah. Pinocchio.

Cyprusraider


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:12

Peter Sellars



Elke Sommers ( I think)

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:17

You ' doubting thomas' , jesus said ' I told you so , but ye believed not '

may all readers please remember and take very good note of Dutch's position.... for it will please me greatly when he chokes on it ...everyone has been very supportive and helpful , thank you all in advance , but every leader has his judas , dutch is mine ...lol,

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:18

This thread has served my purpose for me , so over to you admin , thnx

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:25

cyprus raider , i coulnt fins any link of peter sellers and elke sommers to cyprus , if you know otherwise pls share

Trudy


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:27

No dutch, im talking about the one close to the castle by the harbour. Its a wreck. About 27m deep.

Trudy


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:28

Sorry if i confused you tommy. I did say it was a wreck though! Apologies.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:29

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.

tommy13


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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:30

no probs trudy , theres some interesting shipwrecks i could consider too ....

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
28/05/2009 12:32

RE msg 102, tommy13 > i coulnt fins any link of peter sellers and elke sommers to cyprus <



=> "Kyrenia: the Pirate ship used in the filming of a movie with Peter Sellers in 1973/4 just before the invasion. Rumors have been circulating since that the ship was actually part of a Turkish spying scheme and the film was just a "legitimate" front.The film has never officially circulated although it can be found from some sources." Source: a Greek Cypriot.



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