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Zire1


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Zire Manpower in an international agency for Live-in Housekeepers (maids) Eldercare-caregivers.

We are bringing workers from : Philippines, Sri Lanka, Vietnam

Call us today :

Mrs' Gunsel Akinturk

30.dogu sok

Yenikent/lefkosa

NORTH CYPRUS

TEL:+392 2239779

CELL PHONE: +905338857886



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Zire Manpower in an international agency for Live-in Housekeepers (maids) Eldercare-caregivers.



We are bringing workers from : Philippines, Sri Lanka, Vietnam



Call us today :



Mrs' Gunsel Akinturk



30.dogu sok



Yenikent/lefkosa



NORTH CYPRUS



TEL:+392 2239779



CELL PHONE: +905338857886



http://www.ziremp.com



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I thought it was trendy now to get them from Turkmenistan and less of a language problem. Can you please give us the pros and cons for the two?

ismet



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We are bringing the workers from : Philippines, Sri Lanka, Vietnam the process is very easy for us

we have other offices around the world like Canada : http://www.ofek.ca

I dont know about the Turkmenistan workers but the Asia pepole are well known as a Maids,caregiers,nannies all over the global.

The salary for the workers is about 300 euro a month.

I hope that i help you.



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Are there not local workers who can or could do this work? The lack of jobs is desperate I thought. Isn't there a rule/law about work permits only being given if locals can't do the job?



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In north Cyprus there are rules of hiring foreign workers.

We have got all the information from the labor office and it is not so complicated.



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".....it is not so complicated." In North Cyprus? Since when have rules in NC not been complicated?



I know there are rules about hiring foreign workers. You haven't answered my questions though about local workers.



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About the local workers ,i realy dont know anything about their professional.

The workers that we are bringing are getting training about the specific

work that they need to do.

In all the world the foreign workers are doing the jobs that the local prefer not to do.



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Other thing that is important about hiring foreign worker as a housekeeper or nanny.

The kids can learn and talk English from the worker.



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RE msg 9, Zire1 > The kids can learn and talk English from the worker. <



=> Did your parents employ such a worker?



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To be fair, more literate than a good number of our native Brit members.



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Childcare should only be provided by trained individuals who have been police checked (disclosures) they should also have at least two checkable references.



Obviously relatives and good friends would not require the above.



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RE msg 4, Zire1 > we have other offices around the world like Canada : http://www.ofek.ca <



=> I tried to find any other office than the one in Canada - no luck. Where are the other offices? Furthermore your office is nowhere mentioned on the Canadian website nor are any other foreign offices mentioned. The only thing you seem to have in common with this Canadian organisation is part of the logo.



Little tip for potential "Caregivers" from the Philippines, Sri Lanka and Vietnam: in TRNC you are offered 300 Euros A MONTH. In Canada they offer you about 300 Euros A WEEK. (Think! Wink, wink!)



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Mr. Hans Doeleman you are welcome to call me and you will find out about our branch offices that we have.

I add you to my skype.............and we will talk about that soon.

I am sorry that my english is not 100% but i dont think it is a nice welcome (malcy).

I think that you are using this forum only to tease.......



Salaam



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RE msg 14, Zire1 : Why would I want to call you?! And you don't need Skype to answer my questions (msg # 13) on this board, do you? You introduced your services on this board and for me it raised some questions. Awaiting your answers here.



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"for me it raised some questions"................i think that you are bored, bored, bored.

At the age of 66 this is what you do all the day.........respond to messages not for you??

And always remember to be polite to new guests.



understand?



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I understand, Zire1. I understand that you will not answer one of all the questions (3-5-7-13) in this thread. I wish you good luck with your new business.



P.S. "The salary for the workers is about 300 euro a month." I seem to know that the minimum wages for a worker in TRNC are around 1200 TL/month. Maybe you'd better check it out? Bye.



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http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/15713.asp



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Few years ago i forked out on a second hand pram, a hoover, an iron and a board, a mop, a brush, some dusters, brillo pads, toilet brush, bleach, some sprays and a bucket.

It all took some time to wrap but i could see by the look on my wifes face that she was impressed.



Not just a great practical present but a fabulous cost saver ... it all adds up in these hard up times ..



I can just see all those packages under the tree this coming christmas.



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zire can you send me Cv's to me the following email info@ikontower.com , im also in touch with the other 2 agents in TRNC offering same service whove posted here , I am looking to employ someone asap

Thnx



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Omg, the CV-collector is back.



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yes im back dutch , how the devil are you....... yes more Cv;s the better , i like to have wide choices in life



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Childcare should only be provided by trained individuals who have been police checked (disclosures) they should also have at least two checkable references.







Obviously relatives and good friends would not require the above.







i suppose your local priest of vicar or clergy would be ok also without a check?



maybe even the gardener!



or the pool cleaner.he might be a good friend after 10 years of living here!!



WHO SAID FRIENDS GOOD OR BAD OR RELATIVES WOULDNT NEED A CHECK?



HMMMMM. my mind is boggled with the common sense of some !



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Zerochlor

Re message 12

They said quite rightly that childcare should be carried out only by TRAINED professionals and should be POLICE CHECKED and also have at least 2 references ( which would have to be checked thoroughly as well)



If it was my child I would do all of the above and more to make sure the person checked out.



They also said that relatives and good friends would not require the above. She said GOOD friends not acquaintances.



Zerochlor



They never once indicated that they would leave a child with just anyone i.e. the gardener



Like myself Cathy is a nurse and would NEVER advocate a child being left with someone unsuitable, so think your comments are very unfair and unfounded!

Chris



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Zerochlor

Re message 12

They said quite rightly that childcare should be carried out only by TRAINED professionals and should be POLICE CHECKED and also have at least 2 references ( which would have to be checked thoroughly as well)



If it was my child I would do all of the above and more to make sure the person checked out.



They also said that relatives and good friends would not require the above. She said GOOD friends not acquaintances.



Zerochlor



They never once indicated that they would leave a child with just anyone i.e. the gardener



Like myself Cathy is a nurse and would NEVER advocate a child being left with someone unsuitable, so think your comments are very unfair and unfounded!

Chris



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Obviously relatives and good friends would not require the above



Who said they wouldnt require the same checks?







i think the checks if looking after children should be for all. just because your my uncle bertie. does it mean you might NOT need to have a check?..uncle bertie might also have a secret background. how do you determaine a GOOD friend as you highlight Nurseawful? even a good friend can have a secret background!



Any 1 serving good strong coffee!!



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I was wondering, 300 euros per month seems awfully cheap. Phillipino domestic workers in Istanbul earn minimum $1000 per month take 1 day off per week, and ask for one months holidays a uear where their boss will buy them a ticket back to the phillipines and pay their wage.



Are these people currently living in the t.r.n.c?



Would the possible employer be required to bring them over from their home country?Or would we get a choice from whomevers on your books?



what are the guarantees that the situation will work out?



Is there any additional tax added to 300 euros per month?



What is the finders fee for such a service?



I had a turkmen lady who lived in with me in Istanbul. She broke the washing machine, dishwasher, vacuum cleaner, kettle, and my wardrobe doors. She stole vast amounts of food to eat in her bedroom. constantly lied, and whinged about how she couldnt get by on her wages.



She also burnt some nice work trousers and didnt tell me!!



I will never hire a tur



Zire1


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Dear Pixiie

Please call Mrs' Gunsel Akinturk

She will give you all the details:



TEL:+392 2239779



CELL PHONE: +905338857886



Thank you



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re message 27 - 300 Euro per month is the going rate for similar expatriate domestic worksers in the Arabian gulf. The holiday and flight entitlements you describe are also fairly standard conditions for such workers.



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RE msg 29, twoexpats > 300 Euro per month is the going rate for similar expatriate domestic worksers in the Arabian gulf. <



=> It may be the going rate or "the standard" - in my language it's called "uitbuiting" and in yours "exploitation". It's a disgrace to offer 300 Euros (plusminus 650 TL) in TRNC where the minimum wages are 1190 TL.



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well I think everyone would be interested in a reply here , so anyone thinking of hiring a domestic through your agency will have enough information in order to make a decision about whether or not to actually call you.

I myself would rather get all the facts before calling because Ive found that when you make an enquiry it seems like you are definitly interested, and I would only be interested if I had all the facts.

I dont think it will hurt you or your business to advise us about the questions being raised especially the questions about being legal? tax, workers permit etc

If its going to cost the same I would rather hire a turkish cypriot who would come daily. Just my opinion.



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Hire a what!!



maybe 300euros includes accomadation also and food?



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RE msg 31, Pixie > I dont think it will hurt you or your business to advise us about the questions being raised <



=> Not ONE simple or hard question was answered. It's trying to EXPLOIT poor people from third world countries. Decent people should not even think about making a contact with this "company".



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DutchCrusader,

I agree with you but thats the way the world works. My husband is earning half what he was in Istanbul with none of the perks like driver, car, paid for phone calls, holidays, and Im earning nothing but have been offered a job where I will be earning a third.

We are paying less on our house though and some things are slightly cheaper, but we accepted these things when we decided to move to Cyprus.

Its not only a matter of paying the domestic workers wages, we also pay their days off, their holidays, any specialty food that they like (fruits sauces that are not easily found or are expensive)to eat not counting the food we eat together as a family, holidays with tickets to their home countries and a months wages, clothes, beauty products, shampoos, phone calls. the list goes on...

In istanbul I was paying $1000 per month and extra $200 for the days off(per month) but this doesnt include the rest



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Message 33



Dutch. in istanbul the going rate is 600 TL a month salary



are the turkish goverment or employers exploiting the workforce in some arears?



That why so many mainland turks come here to work in the Wonderful building industry!



300 euros per month for the philipinas is good to them,hotel.catering.ect ect in philipines earn a average of $80 per month.housemaids. house keeping.and the like . so a adventure in another country is a life time oppertunity to them and also they have more money to send home to there families!



who am i to say they should be paid more or less!



its the workers choice to come or not come .they are the ones signing the contract!



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Could you at least answer whether the domestics are currently in Cyprus or will you bring them out according to positions?

What happens if the situation doesnt work out?

Your website is not very informative...



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Pixie & Zerochlor: I read what you think is "the going rate" etc. Just one question: would *YOU* work for 300 Euros/month or a bit more? *YOU*! Why is it fair to EXPLOIT these poor foreigners. Honest answer, please: would *you* do it? No? Why do you expect them to do it? Are you any *better* than people from the third world? Thank you for your answer.



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pixie



they will be brought out to order. a bit like a mail order bride.



its how it works!



as if they are already here some 1 will have to be paying there taxes and insurance. if they got a work permit.but then again once you get them the work permit,youll have to lodge 1000Euros with the bank,and that money stays there until there contract runs out or until they leave the country.



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Message 37



Dutch.



im not a Live-in Housekeepers (maids) Eldercare-caregivers or hotel cleaner.



im also not from a 3rd world country.



if i was any of the above and i was being offerd 3 times as much as my present salary then maybe i would jump at the oppertunity of working on the paradise island or cyprus!



i hope my answers are to your satisfaction old boy!



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Dutch

no I wouldnt

but who says I will pay 300 euros?

I think I prefer to hire someone from here

And if I need a nanny or caregiver or teacher for my child in the future I would prefer a native english speaking person. If I cant afford the rates I will just take someone part time.

I dont think you read my previous post where I mentioned how much I was paying before.



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RE msg 39, zerochlor > i would jump at the oppertunity of working on the paradise island or cyprus! <



=> "paradise island or cyprus! paradise island or cyprus! paradise island or cyprus! paradise island or cyprus!". Yeah. Paradise on half the minimum wages. It's disgraceful to offer it and it's illegal, old boy.



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If they say they can do it legally then its not illegal at all.



people are hiring turkmen workers at 900 tl per month but its amounting to the same as the minimum wage because of the tax and the medical coverage etc. I think the important thing is you cant really find live in domestics here, This is the only other option.



And what about the wages we are earning here? they are very low compared with the rest of the world. If I looked at it that way neither me or my husband would have a job.



Like I mentioned in my above message, the wages are never the reality when hiring a domestic worker, but 300 euros does seem unbelievable to me, and I would never hire someone without trying them out first.



No one should ever profit from someone elses misery, so a more decent wage would be negotiated- including transportation, holidays, flight tickets, etc



to refer to message 37 I dont think I mentioned what 'I think' the going rate is, I made a comparison with the conditions in Istan



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istanbul which is the only other place that I have lived where I can compare the situations.



To be fair Zerchlor is also giving information, I dont think he is looking to hire or exploit someone from the phillipines.



Is it humane? no, not to offer someone half the minimum wage of the country they are wokring in as domestics, but like I said before, the total cost will be more that the minimum wage anyway, and the only benefit would be that that person is living in, and not many people want that anyway.



Where can you obtain a reference from such a person? the company has not replied at all to any queries regarding the matter, so



I am not interested, and If I was I think you will find that in my first message I stated that I found the wages very low.



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RE msg 42, Pixie > If they say they can do it legally then its not illegal at all. <



=> Offering 300 Euros/month IS illegal (TRNC law says 1190 TL/month minimum) - so forget about the rest. Just words and excuses. It's in the same league as "importing" desperate women from a country like Moldavia ("hostesses") - it's EXPLOITATION.



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do you really think that that is all the wages they will get?



They will get medical insurance and some sort of retirement pension funding. I also dont believe that the wage will be 300 euros if they are working legally.



The wages of the workers should be the equivalent of the minimum wage here, the only thing that would make someone like me consider hiring someone from the outside would be the fact that they would be live-in compared to live out. I dont think it would be easy to find a turkish cypriot lady to live in.



As i said before, If they are LEGAL then this is the procedure.



If they are illegal then thats a different story.



This is something you would have to take up with the company themselves, because they refuse to discuss any details whatsoever and give a very low wage on board.



I think you are targetting the wrong people here.



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RE msg 45, Pixie > do you really think that that is all the wages they will get? <



=> Pixie, this is from msg 4 (the advertising company): "The salary for the workers is about 300 euro a month." What am I to believe if they write it in public?!



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basically they are trying to get people interested in hiring workers from them.



The domestic with no education, no english and no experience will be reccomended at 300 euros.But there are definitly additional costs, who will pay the ticket? insurance?work permit?taxes?medical insurance? finders fee?



Like I said, this is something you need to ask them.



As someone who has worked with domestics for many years, and all my friends have them too, I know that wages are NEVER EVER that low.



I dont believe that the wages will be that low.



You need tot ake it up with the agency.



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Got to agree with Dutch



The amount in ones pocket can sometimes determine what is paradise and what is not.



Retired on a reasonable income,villa with pool ,nice car, nice hot weather,being able to spend £50 in a restaurant ,= paradise.

Same country ,low wages ,long and hard work in hot climate,poor accomodation,lousy public transport,can be somewhat less of a paradise.



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Pixie,

sorry to change the subject but how did you find living in Istanbul? Is it more cosmopolitan, young and bohemian than here?

Thanks

Natx



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Message 41 "paradise island or cyprus! paradise island or cyprus! paradise island or cyprus! paradise island or cyprus!".



Damm dutch. you got serious problems with your keyboard old boy!!



anyway dutch,you now know where to go to get yourself a caregiver!!



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RE msg 47, Pixie > Like I said, this is something you need to ask them. <



=> Pixie, I suggest you read this thread from the top to the bottom - not ONE question was answered. I have long ago forgotten to believe words at face value. This "agency" presents its activities in this thread (and have a look at their almost blank website) - the verdict, based on the presentation, is: ILLEGAL, EXPLOITATION and IMMORAL.



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Dutch I totally agree with you



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message 51



Hey dutch.



so nice to see a Journalist with such good and high moral standards



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I loved living in Istanbul



It has great shopping centers,wonderful leisure activities, great restaurants, bars,bistros, museums, good employment opportunities, great areas to live in - we were living in gokturk in a gorgeous complex with a pool and gym etc, heavenly private gardens.



We as a young couple were earning great money and had a high standard of living.But tot ell you the truth ifyou want to live well in Istanbul you have to pay through the nose.



We moved to North Cyprus because my family retired here, and I am of Turkish Cypriot origin.



Its been a bit of a culture shock.



But I love it here too. Just very quiet



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Msg 53, zerochlor > so nice to see a Journalist with such good and high moral standards <



=> A pleasure to correspond with a "company owner" (your profile) who obviously shares my opinion. :-(



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hey pixie



i had 8 days in sultan ahmet and i fell in love with the place,i think if i could create a resonable living there id be gone tomorrow.



nice people nice nite life,good social life



and i know i only saw a snippet of whats to offer there.



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try work as an english teacher



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haha.with my spelling mistakes!





cheers



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I don't understand, if the minimum wage here is 1190TL which is equates to 475 GBP, you then have rent approx 200 gbp, electric, food, travelling, medical, holidays etc, etc. Now surely 300 euros a month clear after everything has been deducted is not that bad. I would not mind having that clear in my hand each month knowing everything else has been payed especially a months holiday which I can tell you from being employed on the island you would be lucky to get 2 weeks off.



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There are specific rules of hiring a foreign worker in North Cyprus.

It will be good if you can call



Mrs' Gunsel Akinturk (Turkish speaker)

TEL:+392 2239779

CELL PHONE: +905338857886



Or Behcet (English speaker)

CELL PHONE: +905428529609



Pixie


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I think it will be good if you anwer the questions we have asked. Why waste time????



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lol! & thanks for the info on Istanbul Pixie!

Natx



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ur welcome NatAless,

and if theres anything else youd like to know dont hesitate to ask..



Zire1


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Dear Pixie

I think that the best way to get all the information is by meeting our representative.

If family are serious to hire a foreign worker the need to know all their rights and duties.

It is very serious matter so we will be happy to assist you.

Please call

Mrs' Gunsel Akinturk (Turkish speaker)

TEL:+392 2239779

CELL PHONE: +905338857886

Or Behcet (English speaker)

CELL PHONE: +905428529609



Thanks



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Dear Zire,

I have asked some general questions which should not be too hard to answer for a proffesional company.I looked at your website which was blank. I think you should post the answers here for all people who are interested.

If you cannot or will not answer these questions then I am simply not interested in calling you.



Like I mentioned before, If you read my previous posts, I would like to get all the facts before registering my interest.



Please do not post me any more messages to call you as I WILL NOT until I get the info I require.



pixie



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Look like a nice idea - i had Filipina housemaid a few years ago - but i didnt know that

i can get one here.

I will contact you soon.



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I am the General Manager of GlobalEmployment.PH, Inc. We are a placement agency located here in Manila, Philippines. We provide executive search/manpower placement services. Our mapower pool consists of skilled and top executive Filipinos (caregivers, nanny, housemaid, sales person, housekeeper, nurses,factory workers, acctg,and many more ) who are currently looking for work abroad.We will also provide you all the rest of the assistance needed for us to deploy this workers to your destination country. If you are interested dealing with us, please see my contact details below:



Mr.Ivan Rached David - General Manager/President



Mobile: +639266493594

Email: ivan@globalemploymentinternational.com



Pools



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May i add APEX Corp, Phils. - Agency for Pinoy Excellence for more option.



Please check out the website: http://www.apexphil.com

or for more inquiries please email me : evelyn_c_beyazkaya@yahoo.com



Regards,

Evelyn



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Pixie, the lady is offering a service which might benefit a lot of people here in Northern Cyprus. Why are you insisting she do it 'your way?'



She has offered you the opportunity to contact her directly to get the answers you want. You could then post them here if you wished. What's the problem?



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I have experience of companys like these. When you call and register your interest they keep calling you back. You cant just say no thanx this is not what Im interested in.



Ive mentioned that Im not interested in bringing over someone from their home country because the situation may not work out, I prefer to have a 1 or 2 week trial basis to see if the employee will fit in with the family and is able to complete tasks to my specific needs.



People place emphasis on different things, so I mentioned in my orevious posts that I would like to know the total cost outlay involved, goverment requirements for work permit, and whether they have staff on hand here ready for interviews and/or trals.



This is really info that should be on their website.



Anyway am not interested anymore because have decided to go with live out , with checkable references.



Im sorry but everyone has their own preferen



Pixie


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preferences.



Its up to everyone else if they want to go with the company or not. I wish them luck.



But I prefer to have all the info before I go ahead with offering a job.



This is just my personal style. No offence to anyone.



Will not post on this thread anymore as its a waste of time for me.



frontalman



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Now you've explained, I can see your point. I didn't think of the potential pestering aspect. Thanks for your full and balanced response.



I do understand that there is a cultural difference in the way business is carried out here and Gunsel's reluctance to say too much online may be partly because of that.



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when you say you are looking for a domestic worker there are certain things I expect -



If I end up doing all the work and I have someone who is at home watching tv and eating out the fridge I dont really want to pay the air ticket from the phillipines and be responsible for their work visa etc. Then its difficult to replace them because you have only paid commission for that one person, and normally companies just deal with that first person and if you want to replace them you have to go thru the whole process again.



If lived thru this in Istanbul a few times so Im not willing to try my luck by bringing someone over that I need to train but who is unwilling to do things my way, especially after all the hassle and expence I will be going through.



Sorry if it sounds tough but these are the things that pop to mind when I think of trying out someone new.



pixie



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I live in the Gulf, we have a live in maid who is from the phillapines, she lives in her own house at the back of ours, All i can say is a total life saver in many ways. We pay her about GBP 250 per month with flights every 2 years. we are v.lucky and has become part of the family. Just my thoughts



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There may be a good future in TRNC (and the Gulf, come to think about it) in starting up a "Union for Exploited Third World People".



If people were paid decent salaries they could pay for their own flights.



Would one dare to offer a British boy or girl 250 Sterling/month??!



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Just jumping the add again....



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Just jumping the add again....



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Hi zire hanim , hope all is going well



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All is going well.....thanks Tommy



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Just jumping the add again....



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Just jumping the add again....



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Have a pleasant day to everybody upon reading my post, I'm glad to try to post here just to ask if anybody knows how to apply for Cyprus a couple workers. I'm Beth recently working in Taiwan and my couple is working at South Korea.



Hope to hear from you soon.



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