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Mustafa&Zehra


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This is my first and ONLY post so let me set the recird straight.

While everyone unjustly bad mouths me i did not instigate this issue but the Head of the Hairdressers Union and Small Business Association approached City and Guilds as they understood Gez was working on FAKE certificates and did not there for have the necessary qualification to open a salon although they were sufficient to operate as a hairdresser. City and Guilds confirmed the certificate was a FAKE. I was ordered to the Education Minister and Police Station as i run the only City and Guilds approved training center in North Cyprus. This upsets me too but please get your facts straight before libeling me.



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Are we supposed to read each and every post here? Of course not. It would help us understand what you are talking about if you put a link to the post you have in mind. Is this asking too much?

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Ismet: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/20835.asp



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Re msg 1 Yes you are correct that EU salon managers should have level 4 qualification.



My husband is going to check that his TC female hairdresser running her own salon here has level 4 or equivalent qualification. I would suggest all forum members boycott hairdressers that do not have this qualification displayed. Perhaps they should also notify the Police and Jez make way for additional "criminals" to join him.



Surely to demand this certificate of Jez and not of TC's would be an example of blatant discrimination.



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I believe this is the Ministry of Educations job, is it not? Those who do not have it would have been in the same boat as Gez, otherwise.



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Thank you Dutch for the link. I had a weekend break in a hotel somewhere in Girne and only sneeked in shortly at the hotel to check this forum but did not notice this thread.



I would have liked to comment on the original thread but unfortunately it is closed and as a matter of principle I do not comment about a closed thread by opening a new one. Suffice to say that I am always critical of police arresting people unjustly and even worse when they try to get confessions under various threats and even torture. I am also very critical of people making accusations against persons on suspicion rather than proof. I will say no more since the original thread is closed.

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Jackjill, I am suspicious you joined today to add your comments to the Gez debate, mmmm, are you another?



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Jackjill, I am suspicious you joined today to add your comments to the Gez debate, mmmm, are you another?



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so ok to work for Nulten with Fake certs, but not ok to set up in competition ??



sounds "fair trouty" to me.....



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so did nulten give him the fake certificates as she is the only one qualified to issue certificates fi nvq s and e wirked for her emhx



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well said number 9,,,,,,,



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I am a trifle confused as the posting [supposedly] by Nulten is from 'kicks' - who, when one checks the membership info turns out to be a 49-year-old nurse from Girne called Debbie who only joined on Sunday 16 Aug. What is going on?







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Name debbie



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Marital Status Single



Location girne



Occupation nurse



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Last Post 16/08/2009



Total Posts 1



Email You need to have a certain number of posts in order to see member email addresses.



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No !!!

Mustafa said he had certificates to qualify him to work in a salon but not to run one of his own. thats why Jez stated that he worked for Nulten because he was able to do just that. but not set out on his own.

Sheila



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All this big deal about POOR GEZ THE HAIRDRESSER being arrested and pit in prison for USING FAKE CERTIFICATES AND DOING BUSINESS WITHOUT LICENSCE!!! Ok all the whingers tell me what happens to you if you are an immigrant in any European or Northamerican country and is caught doing so?.... mmm Send to prison and deported .... rings bell..... you owe taxes to the govt for not declaring your earnings... hmmm Illegal... fake certificates.... forgery...

WHAT THE POLICE DID IS RIGHT. Just Because it is North Cyprus they should revere the british fraud living on the island or should be treated different? .... Why don't such frauds go back to their lovely UK and work in black their rather then spoil the island and earn bad name to all the british residents here...



Full sympathy with the family but WHAT IS WRONG IS WRONG AND IT HAS TO BE STOPPED..... GEZ fast money is easy but takes to to the prison I hope you have learn't your lesson ...



The Govt has to start somewhere



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Patricia, If the Government has to start somewhere, then it should have done so a long time ago, cleaning up it's own back yard first! There has been dreadful suffering caused here by evil estate agents, lawyers and builders. What punishment do they get! None that I have heard of, because they are the Government! What Gez has or has not done and only he knows, is a drop in the ocean compared to these evil people. This whole case smacks of yes, once again, discrimination.



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Natile is right Patricia. Too busy lining thier own pockets to deport a well know wanted criminal or indeed arrest him. Even gave him citzenship. Whatever Jez has done does not warrant this discrimination or treatment



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Patricia ~ Another first post by someone who joined today. Not worth answering this person as she/he is obviously one of the instigators.



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What's the name of your salon,Patricia ?



firewalks


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what mustafa had stated is law here

you have to have a level 3 to be able to open a salon . if u r from abroad like england turkey ,, yr level 3 is taking to the mistry of educated . where they check to see if it is real .. not fake .. they isssue u with a ustalik belgesi . this is the law here ,,,, but gez has a FAkE ceritfcate . who's to balme ?.. gez is ... not nurtal or nacyice from the cutting room ....



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When people are asked their reasons for choosing North Cyprus ,one is always.... "the friendly people".



Perhaps some of the locals are only friendly on the surface?



erolz


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Firewalks , yet another new joiner I see.



Gerald is responsible for his actions and if these include the things he is being accused off then he will be and is being held to account for those actions.



The person or people who chose to report Gerald are likewise responsible for thier actions as well. To me such behaviour was nasty vindictive and motivated by self interest. Behaving in such a manner is not illegal but it does have consequences none the less and just as Gerald will have to live with the consequences of his actions so too will this person or perons have to live with theirs and rightly so in my view.



firewalks


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listen erolz ..

anyione can make a comment on what they know and believe ..



if someone does something wrong ,,, why r the ppl whom u believe have drop them in ,, nasy or vindictive ?? or is telling t he truth so bad ???



cyprus is a small place ,,, as well all know .....and everything get hear one way or other ,,,,

why's gez wife is very quick to sell the salon .. what that all about ????? great escape ?????

or is self pity what they want ??? before they leave ..



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Firewalks,

We have a saying in Turkish: "Yapan kurtulur fakat söyleyen kurtulmaz" which means: "The one who does it can get away but the one who tells it can not".



The fact of the matter is that everybody is upset because this guy has been treated badly at the police station. Is this the fault of the person who informed the Hairdressers Association, whoever that may be? This guy may be very good at his job but faking a document or diploma is something else. I believe that I can conduct a trial in court much better than most lawyers but I am not an advocate and if I produce a fake diploma to show that I am an advocate I should be clobbered by the police. As simple as that. Let us please keep things in perspective. Bad treatment at the police station cannot be the fault of Nulten or anybody else except the police and those responsible for the police.

At large, we the public are responsible for not raising our voice against such treatment irrespective of whether we know the person



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FFireworks....it amazes me where you get your information from... !! and being such a new member too... I am impressed you are so informative...

I bet your good friends with Patricia and JackJill...



Please could you get your facts right before posting them all over the forum...



I do believe innocent until proven guilty is a phrase well know in all languages, which is a good job as your written English is diabolical..

I have not sold the salon, and whoever told you so is wrong.. I do however have to look into that as an option. Let me tell you why... some people here, no mention of names.. has not given up or been entirely happy until Gerald was put behind bars, and my family left in jeopardy. As we have no savings, don’t on a property, not even a car, i have to sell what little we have to fund our return back to England.



Gerald has been released this afternoon pending an investigation, i have no faith in the legal system here.. so I have decided that when this..

cont.



weaze


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Is all over we will be leaving the Island.. The majority of the people here never fail to amaze me, some have surprised me by being so kind and helpful..strangers to me have given me 100% support and are not judging Gez regardless... and others are vindictive and pure poison, i do believe what goes around comes around, it’s just a shame I won’t be here to witness it..



For all of those who have offered your help and support I will always be grateful, and you will never be forgotten, I am sorry I didn’t get to know most of you better.

I am still in need of boxes and packing materials if anybody can help with such things.



I will also be adding a list of things that we will be selling (Yes Fireworks, including the shop! Would you like to make me an offer!?! Fab business...you would be a fool to miss out! lots of customers!) to raise funds for a container and our flights home..so please keep an eye out…



Thank you all again…From Myself, Gez & the Kids...



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Informing on and using influence and contacts against someone you know and have priveledged information about and whom you know is prefectly capable of operating despite some technical paper issue with no regard for the consequences to that person and his family simply because you do not like competition and see it as an easy way of removing such competition is to me the actions of a nasty vindictive self serving person. That is my opinion.



Cyprus is indeed a small place. Those that proactively sought to cause problems and trouble for Gerald will become increasingly known as will the self serving reasons why they did what they did. This will in turn have consequences for those people and rightly so in my view.



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Ismet wrote



"The fact of the matter is that everybody is upset because this guy has been treated badly at the police station."



No Ismet what upsets me the most is that certain indivduals have used their influence and connections to devestate a young man and his families life and for no other reason than to benefit their own commercial self interest. Gerald is a good, kind an caring indivdual, who's worst act, if the accusations made against him here are founded, which has yet to be shown, was to make a bad error of judgment in the face of sustained adversity to do everything by the book.



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ref message 19



''what mustafa had stated is law here



you have to have a level 3 to be able to open a salon . if u r from abroad like england turkey ,, yr level 3 is taking to the mistry of educated . where they check to see if it is real .. not fake .. they isssue u with a ustalik belgesi . this is the law here ,,,, but gez has a FAkE ceritfcate . who's to balme ?.. gez is ... not nurtal or nacyice from the cutting room ....''



- so I just wandered how it is that Nülten is able to hold an ustalık belgesi when she does not have either NVQ 2 or 3 ??????? I hope no FAKE docs were used to get that



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so if she is operating without this certifcate why has she not been locked up and closed down?



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Whatever the rights and wrongs of the matter - one thing is for sure: the ensuing publicity in the British and European media won't bode well for all of Cyprus. Why all? Because so many European 'Joe Publics' haven't a clue as to the political situation of this island - they simply read or hear something and presume it applies to the whole island.



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erolz;

If everything was being done by the books;



My doughter had her hair done there back in february,

the shop had "GHD'S COMING SOON"



today,the same sign still there!!!!



with all due respect,perhaps he should've been more carefull with his actions ,at least for his wife and kids.



But above all,I wouldnt wish what him and his family going through to my worst enemy.



Also please bear in mind that ,this things(informing authorities for illegel operations) takes place in uk as well.

I for one had to do it on few occations for illegal mobile hot dog,burger stalls on high street,where I had my shop.Because if one wants to earn a living,one must also pay their duties.

Regards



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message 30

1- yes

2- yes



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yorgozlu,

You are so right!

Other posters have pointed out that his biggest mistake was operating openly while still trying to get all the bureaucratic paperwork sorted - can you imagine how many trips backwards and forwards, again and again would be involved, with the endless wrangling over extra copies of this and that?

He was, if anything FOOLISH

Foolish in not doing what others do, which is to operate in back streets, behind closed shutters, and turn two fingers towards Authority and the Tax man

This is not to say that I support any kind of illegal activity, laws are there for the good of Society, but the severity with which he has already been treated is surely disproportionate to any perceived 'offence'

The offers of help from caring and compassionate members of this, and other Forums have been heart-warming - including offers from two notable antagonists who are usually at each other's throats

This has certainly brought out the best in a lot of people

Thank you one and



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All!



Keith.



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by the way .. just wanted to know how long has this salon been open for ????



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Keith - agree with you (post 34/35)



I does sometimes seem, to me anyway, that in NC your'e 'damned if you do and damned if you don't'.



I wish the family all the very best for a positive outcome in all of this. Louise does, at least, sound positive at the present time.



We think you're a very good chap, by the way. You go out of your way to help others wherever/whenever you can. Well done - the world could do with a few more like you.



Jean and Paul



PS Watch out - we know where you live and coming out in September, so, any problems ...................



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Firewalks, clear off you vindictive person Nobody needs your comments at a time like this



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why ... is it not important to have the full details ???? is that too much to ask ?



or is blaming other more important ????



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I am at a loss here, if this guy has done wrong and broken any immigration laws or business laws in this country or any country, then surely he deserves to be punished. If he has forged documents (whatever they may be immigration or business) then again surely he is in the wrong, and therefore deserves to be punished. Is this not what everyone would expect of anyone in the uk whether an immigrant (which most of us here are) or a natural citizen? Okay, it doesn't always happen but then when it does happen shouldn't we support the authorities for making a stance?



I also wonder how much WE DON'T KNOW of the situation ie how long has this been going on for? This cannot have happened overnight, this must have been brewing for some time.



I do not know the Jez or his family and therefore have no axe to grind but I wonder still wonder what we don't know about and now there is so much speculation I don't know what to believe and what not to.



I have probably opened a can of worms!!



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For those people above who's names I do not want to waste my time mentioning..but you know who you are... May I remind you that Gerald (Gez) was released today WITHOUT charge...



Thank you..



Natalie..msg 38.. I couldnt have put it better myself..



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then what is the fuss about ....



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Shut up Firewalks... you seem to be the one making all the fuss...



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scobby you probably have as keith stated how many live in thier homes with the permissions to purchase. Are they not guilty of breaking the laws of this country. Some people here think they are so powerful. I think you will find that if Jez was guilty of anything it probably was being sick and tired of trying to sort things out. You know how long things take here unless you know someone. We are upset the way he was treated. They will leave the country and that is so sad. I would stay and create an empire. Not only deprived the family but also his clients for what a bit of paper



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why should i shut up ....

u seem the like the one crying over nothing ???? or u r scared u said someone wrong ....



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and still u have not answer my qusestion ... how long was the salon open for ????



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firewalks go back where you belong and leave this family alone now to deal wit whats ahead. Released without charge Now look out



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lilli

i have nothing to be afraid off ...

if gez was not charge then i happy for him ..

but why leave when u dont have a problem with the law ?

why bad mouth other ppl from a problem that is not there ??

and why collect money for moving back to the uk ??

THIS DOES NOT SOUND FAIR TO ME ,,,



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I am going to copy and post a reply to Filiz...sorry 'Firewalks' which for some reason she felt the need to put on another link, below.. and then Firwalks me and you are done... you are a very hurtful person.. but then with you i should have known better...



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from Firewalks:

For those people above who's names I do not want to waste my time mentioning..but you know who you are... May I remind you that Gerald (Gez) was released today WITHOUT charge...



Thank you..



THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM WEAZE (above)



From Firewalks below:



then why is that everyone is trying to help gez and his family when there is not a problem???



does this mean .. everyone here can ask from help to move back to the uk ???



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My Reply:



Problems were caused for us,stress like you would not believe.. do you honestly think that this has not had an affect on my children?? are you just down right stupid!!? it appears you really are..my husband was in jail..myself & my kids put through a nightmare weekend that i would not wish on my worst enemy.. not even Nulten..& you mock me... I have asked for no help other than boxes!



You are truley a horrid person & thoughtless..



The things you are saying involve my kids..not just me and Gez.. & trust me i dont take kindly to people who have caused me such heartache.. & have upset my children this way.. you are just making me an angry person.. something which i have tried very hard to avoid all weekend.. congratulations.. i hope you are really proud of yourself..



I will not be responding to anything else YOU write.. and no i am not running away.. i have just had enough.



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Weaze see my post on the other thread. I wont do it without your permission of course You take care and my love to you all. You have been in my prayers all weekend. I have A donation for you already xxxx



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Thank you....xx



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so can we go for it so i can post it xxxx



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thats very kind of you...thank you..x



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weaza

saying my name is not a prblem as u can see if it on my infor .. got nothing to hide ,,,

asking question is not breaking the law ... that what thei site is about ...as far as i know ...



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firewalks this will not go away but you should. we are all doing what we can for cez x



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Firewalks once again



When in your first post on this subject made having just joined the forums seemingly specfically in order to make this first post you said



"but gez has a FAkE ceritfcate"



How can you possibly continue to claim that all your are doing is innocently 'asking questions' without any agenda to your actions and hope to have a shred of credibility ?



Your claim that you are simply 'asking questions' without any agenda is totaly bogus and everyone can see this simply by looking at and reading your posts.



People are not stupid.



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u know what erolz ,,, again someone to blame if it is not nac it is nurten ... but as this moment it is me ....

blame me ,, what do i care ...



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firewalks I am not blaming you.



I am pointing out plain facts.



You repeatedly claim you are just asking questions and imply you have no agenda. Yet you very first post shows this claim is just not true.



I have blamed no one by name.



I consider you responsible for your actions and behaviour as I consider those that had a part in proactively seeking to cause trouble for Gerald responsible for theirs and as I consider Gerald responsible for his. I also know who I personaly consider more reprensible by their actions out of these three groups and it is not Gerald.



You are very keen on asking questions and demanding answers, yet you have repeatedly avoided mine. Once more. How can your claim of simply being here to innocently ask questions and with no agenda be reconciled with the FACT that in your very first post on this issue and the second ever you made on the forum states as fact an unproven allegation about Gerald ?



firewalks


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erolz ...

like everyone i hear what has happened on saturday ,,, and after reading what was said on cyprus 44 i was piss off... blameing nac . nurten .. and now me , is not right .

i am a wonmen who will ask a question .. as there is 2 sides to every stroy ..

i have been a hairdresser here for over 15 year .. i know the law very well .. and what the mistry does and is trying to do ,

they check the dipolma to see if they r fake ,,, yes i say the word fake ,,, as we have had alot of main land turks here with fake level 3 ... if they r not fake they r approve ... but this law also applys to beauty and male babers.

lots of exams have be take for ppl without the level 3 ...

but one thing ppl seem to forget ,,, before every 3 feet they was hair or beauty salon .. or even male barber

but will the law changing for the better . alot of inprovement has been done .



firewalks


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again .. what i ask have not been told.. how long was the salon open for ???

1 year 2 years ???

if gez has be release without charge .. then why again is everyone ,, trying to find someone to blame ???

dont u want the answer to these questions .. as i do ,,,



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Firewalks.....give it a rest.



If you and other local hairdressers DID instigate the arrest ,imprisonment,and closing down of this man's business then you should be happy......you've got what you wanted haven't you?



However,I doubt very miuch that you will pick up the customers that Gez has to leave behind,and you may well find that some of your existing customers desert you as a matter of principle.

What goes around,comes around.



It is good to know though that you and the other hairdressers have such high moral principles when it comes to truth,honesty and legality........because it's not the impression that most people get from NC.



Finally....if you are going to reply,don't use childish "Text Speak".......I find it lazy and annoying so never bother trying to read it.



firewalks


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i dont need the clients ,, as i have said before i am no longer doing hairdressing ,,, which has been over 2 years ...all i am doing is adding my comment ... why is it ok for u all to add yr comment .. and to belive they r fair ... blame me .. u can .. why not ...it seem like u have nothing better to do ,,, other ppl have be blame for what has happend to gez ,, but do u have evident to prove this ????? or again all heresay but again .

why the fuss if gez was not charge ???



Lilli



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firewalks on another thread you are inviting people to see your qualifations yet on this one you have left hairdressing yet still hide behind a name. If you need to know the answers why not ask Gez himself. I bet a lot of cypriot salons will now be worried as they may not have these qualifications and now we know what to look for.Where is yor Salon



firewalks


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god yr thick lilli...posting the same thing on 2 different site ,,

then read the info that is there .. again u will find the answer ,,

but where i have asked a question i dont seem to get a answer .. what that all about ??



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i though i put it here aslo ..

as some ppl r making conments all over the place ,, is this to confuse us ????



god yr thick lilli...posting the same thing on 2 different site ,,

then read the info that is there .. again u will find the answer ,,

but where i have asked a question i dont seem to get a answer .. what that all about ??t



britvic



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Firewalks, I think you will be 'walking' soon, it is against rule 3 to call someone a name! And you have done that twice on here.



Bye



firewalks


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and what someone tell me t f**** off ... is not breaking the rules ...and calling me horrible names ????

or is it one rule for one ,, and one rule for me ???



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I have read all the comments about this thread and this is first time I have posted any thing on here, all I can say is GEZ was a very cutter maybe thats why he got so many customers I only went for a hair cut not to look at diplomas if I did not get a good I would not have gone back to him so maybe the hairdressers here are not that good and I have been to few all they seem to know is the army cut not every one wants an army cut.

Pity some builders here and so called advecotes are not as good then maybe as people have posted the TRNC may not be that bad and maybe the brits would not feel so vindicated me for one.



natalie


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Surely this thread is serving no further useful purpose and should be closed? It has gone way off topicand is all about this 'delightful' persons hangups.



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Please bring this thread back to what it should be about.



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Has this not run it's course? While this has proved to be a most emotive subject I think maybe it's time to let it start to rest and allow the family concerned some time to get over the experience, and decide how best to deal with matters from here - irrespective of the right's, wrong's, who-did-what-to-whom and so on. I sympathise with the experience they have been subjected to (righty or wrongly) but unless any one person on here actually knows all the facts in their absolute and total truthfullness and accuracy, maybe we should all just leave well alone.



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What we have to remember is that Gez is an excellent hairdresser, he is very tallentated in cutting and colouring and i have to admit one of the best i have had on the island.

I am truely going to miss him and am now thinking...... AHHHHHH WHERE THE HELL SHALL I GET MY HAIR DONE?????



Gez you are very good at what you have trained to do and you should be proud that you make us ladies look and feel 100% better as we walk out after you have done our hair....



my thought now is either a trip back to england or got nicosia for hair cut?



Good luck matey 100% behind you



JustJane


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I am new to this board;



I heard about this young man plight and have carefully read the threads before deciding to comment; however firewalk hostility is implicit in the way you phrase your questions one of which must know .



Firstly; as ihis young man has advertised his business in the same manner as yourself you can trawl back and check exactly how long he has been trading.



Secondly, the is a difference ce between foolhardiness of infringing the law and crimes against the person and/or property. In the UK one suspected of such an infringement not be treated in this way.



However we are here and have to abide by discriminatory laws which favour Turkish Cypriots even those who have been born or returned from the UK.



Someone must have informed on this young man for their own personal gain or vindictiveness; which is the greater crime? The betrayal of an entire family or allegedly working with fake papers



Lilli



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well sais justjane. Which is. You know this week we had two lovely young men as customers both hold british passports.Never ben to cyprus both british mums and Tc fathers. Aged 22 23 maybe but told onn arrivial here they will now be required to join the army here. They are scared and dont know where to go. They came to see the extended family and now may not get back. Why cant this gov do a website outlining everything so we may all understand. Update it every day when they change the rles. It would make life easy for buyers tourists etc xx



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