would people agree with Adolf Hitler now

thetruth


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 13:37

would it be a better world if Hitler had won?

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 13:40

Well i don't fancy speaking German....English is hard enough! LOL



Also, i don't fancy the idea of being respsonsible for millions of deaths...not really my my cup of tea...



DD

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 13:56

The truth, this is going to hurt - NO.

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 14:13

I may have become a better wallpaperer and decorator? ;-)

scoobydoo


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Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 14:22

Definitely NO!

zerochlor


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 14:23

long live volkswagon bettles!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 14:40

Downing Street 10 changed in Berlin Strasse 10... And some other minor changes here and there... Errrm, no.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:03

If Hitler had had his way, there would be no-one to tarmac our driveways.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:07

thetruth.....you must be really bored.

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:07

The BNP could be a major political party! ?? ;-(

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:10

Where would we be if Boudicca (or Boadicea, for 'O' Level ages!) had won?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:19

Rob, you're going a bit too deep! )

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:23

RE msg 10, ROBnJO: (...) The BNP could be a major political party! ?? ;-( (...)



=> With an even bigger than now branch in Northern Cyprus?

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:26

Hans





Shhhhhshhh!





They know who you are!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:26

"The Sun" would be renamed: "Die Sonne". With Julius Streicher as senior editor.



All Brits, Belgians and Dutch would be "resettled" in Mongolia (a real Nazi-German plan, never executed for known reasons...).

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:30

RE msg 14, ROBnJO: (...) They know who you are! (...)



=> Of course they do! My nice, black uniform hangs in the garden...

fire starter


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:36

No more or less than Stalin, chairman Mao , polpot or Tony Blair

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:40

We would also have lost any sense of humour,...





















and that's not funny!

mistress


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:48

DC re message 13



i bet you love the knee boots?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:51

RE msg 19: (...) i bet you love the knee boots? (...)



=> Nope. I wear black clogs.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:54

Hans, with or without the long socks?

sylvie


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 15:59

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !genocide and horror - how such a question can be asked ! unless there are neo nazis in this forum !

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 16:06

sylvie



don't worry,... the USA,... with a little help from us ;-), saved France from any such thing!









p.s. Why do the French eat Snails?



















Because they don't like fast food!





Rob

adagirl


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 16:22

Agree with sylvie mess 22 - I cannot believe any sane person would ask that question!!!

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 16:27

sylvie & adagirl



It was actually a 'very, very close thing'. It could so easily have been a different future.



Let's be thankful that we had the resolution we had!

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 16:39

ROBnJO, too right, dread to think of what would have happened if he had taken control of all Europe. All dark skined, dark haired folks would have been 'got rid',. Just as polpot got rid of the clever ones in Cambodia. Horrrrrrible to even think about such stuff. .....

gates


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 16:51

unfortunatly what our grand parents and some parents died for is not the ticket they went to do battle for as now the enemy is at home did we invite the germans in from the front and give them all the help they wanted vie hand outs and then meet the same one at the end of a barrel i think if thoese that died for country and to protect there family would if not already turned in there grave get out labour and thoese that voted them in remember how it is now and how thoese that went to defend our contry fault for

minertor



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 17:14

Hi Gates, msg 27 How far can you swim underwater?

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 17:46

Gates



In the past we have had wars against the Vikings, Romans, French, Spanish, Germans, Russians, Americans, Chinese, Zulu's, Koreans, Japanese, Iraqi's,.....



the list goes on and on and on.



How long are we expected to hold hatred for our foes?





Life goes on, we all have to live on the same Planet.

gates


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 17:52

well how many times do they blow up buses cars and if you are unlucky enough your family members if you wont to give them more money to do it go on thats why i dont live in that wourld you made any more

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 18:06

Gates



The last bombs I have personal experience from were from the IRA, or other Irish Splinter groups.







Do you ever drink Guinness, or visit Ireland??

thetruth


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 268

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 18:47

so everyone is happy with the world then!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 18:59

thetruth. No, not everyone is happy with 'the world'. It's just a better place than it would have been under Hitler!

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 19:03

thetruth



Not really sure where you are coming from.



Are you suggesting 'the World' would be happier if Germany had won WW1 or WW2?



Would you be happy with the extermination of all Jews in Europe?



I think a bit more explanation of your thinking behind your original post would be useful.



You don't happen to be a Holocaust Denier do you?

gates


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 19:06

givem all a few more bob the ira didnt blow up the last bus the people alowed in did remember dont attack unless you have lost some body that has become a british resedent they dont get in here do they thank god if you want to blow your own up carry on i am off this post and why did you leave england after you voted them in daft or silly i can take a guess

sylvie


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Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 20:05

malheureusement, ils vont de plus en plus dans les fast-food !!!! désolant !

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 21:04

RE msg 22, sylvcie: (...) genocide and horror - how such a question can be asked ! unless there are neo nazis in this forum ! (...)



=> Je m'enfou les Anglais noir ici, sylvie. Et qu'est-ce que vous pensez?!



=> RE mag 37, sylvie: Vous avez raison, madame, mais malheuresement c'est 2009...

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 21:18

Must admit, even with the diverse subjects that get 'debated' on here, it did strike me as a very curious subject matter???

J

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 21:34

What's wrong debating a rhetorical question?

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 21:40

Hans - absolutely nothing wrong with debating a rhetorical question at all.



Perhaps it was the fact that it was the anniversary of the outbreak of WW2 that sparked it?



It just struck me as rather odd, and, thus far, I'm not convinced that anything 'positive' (if that's the right word?) has come out of this discussion.



Kind regards.



Jean



PS How did you get on with the chess?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 21:50

RE msg 42, Jeannie: (...) PS How did you get on with the chess? (...)



=> Hi "J"! We had a very enjoyable afternoon and some good/bad matches. But. It's no longer possible to start a thread and keep idiots and paranoids out. Check tle last messages in this thread:

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/21069.asp



I've found another way to communicate with interested people and won't risk the chance to be inundated with not called for malicious or stupid messages in a "CHESS THREAD" again.



You and your husband have a nice evening!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 21:52

Back on topic: "would people agree with Adolf Hitler now" Enjoy the question/debate.

Coachie



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 22:14

Thetruth..if he had won do you think you would be here now???

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 22:19

RE msg 42, Jeannie: (...) Perhaps it was the fact that it was the anniversary of the outbreak of WW2 that sparked it? (...)



=> With all due respect, may I remind you that it was only Germany invading Poland, the naive country that believed in the UK guarantee of its safety. (Hmmm. Reminds me of...) "WW2" was only a historical statement - later.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 22:21

msg 43, stop whinging you pathetic poseur, you started the slagging, as per usual, and can't handle the riposte. You weren't "inundated with not called for malicious or stupid messages" you were asked a valid question from a concerned member. The fact that you chose to throw another tantrum isn't my fault. If you cant take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.



In retrospect maybe you didn't answer because the truth could have been embarrassing for you,not that you've ever been encumbered with the need to tell the truth.

I remain

Yours faithfully

Tony

Arthur


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 22:30

Much as "the old drunken bed wetter" [Churchill] might have sounded a bit dramatic about Europe returning to a "dark age", fundamentally he was correct in his analysis of Hitler and his band of cronies. He was blessed with a frighteningly efficient army and an air force that was battle hardened from fighting in Spain in the 1930s. Most countries in Europe did not have air forces with up to date equipment, luckily the RAF got competitive fighters just in time to give the Luftwaffe a kicking in the Battle of Britain [the fact we were fighting on home ground with the benefit of radar gave us an advantage]. Could we have beaten Hitler on our own?- not a chance. Hitler's fate was sealed when he attacked Russia and failed to knock them out in the first winter. Having the Yanks on board also tipped the balance. However it is unlikely either could have dealt with Adolf without our help.

TBC

Arthur


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 22:37

As for the original question, much as many of us don't agree with the actions of our respective governments, we do get a choice. Opposition parties aren't eliminated, various ethnic groups, or the mentally ill, homosexuals etc aren't sent to death camps.

It's true that the Nazis had the best uniforms [I think they were designed by a theatrical costumier], but field grey or black look very passe. If we do have to have some Nazis, perhaps they could run the trains........at least they'd run on time. Actually, I think some escaped after the War, and run the parking attendants in Southend on Sea.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 22:45

RE msg 48, Arthur: (...) Having the Yanks on board also tipped the balance. However it is unlikely either could have dealt with Adolf without our help. (...)



=> Again, with all due respect for the fallen Brits from Dunkirk to the last days of WW2 - you are exaggerating the role of the UK. Hitler's fate was sealed when the plan to attack the USSR was drawn. When the USA entered the war it was only an underlining of Hitler's fate. Great Britain was a demanding ally without resources or power. And the role of Great Britain in the Far East was even more modest. We shouldn't look at some heroic or stupid events (the clown Montgomery whose plan to liberate Arnhem, Holland, and subsequently invade Nazi-Germany, turned out to be a death trap for 10.000 Brits) - we should look at the big picture. And that picture is bleak. Just the facts in a nut shell. Again, with all due respect for the fallen Brits from Dunkirk to the last days of WW2.

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 23:03

Hans



I forget,..



where were the Dutch in WW2?







Would they have accepted any winning power, German or Allied forces?





Not being facetious, genuinely don't know!



Rob

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 23:25

RE msg 51, ROBnJO: (...) where were the Dutch in WW2? Would they have accepted any winning power, German or Allied forces? (...)



=> Come on, Rob (or Jo?), you can do better! Holland lost a 5-day war against the battle hardened German Army (SS troops from Poland, where they defeated Poles on horses, who could only shout, dying: "Great Britain guarantees our freedom and independency".). Holland surrendered when Rotterdam was bombed and the city centre burned down completely. Next, promised the German head quarters, would be Utrecht and then Amsterdam. The promise of help from the French and British army to fight in the Southern part of Holland was not worth the paper it was written on. The result of these sad events was - in short - Dunkirk.



=> Rob (or Jo): I really don't understand what you mean by: (...) Would they have accepted any winning power, German or Allied forces? (...)



For now, unless you enlighten me: an occupied country that lost a war doesn't have any choice - or?

newscoop


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Message Posted:
02/09/2009 23:41

The battle of Britain put paid to any seaborne invasion from mainland Europe



It was after this that Hitler fatally launched Barbarossa



If Britain and it's Canadian, Anzac, Indian, Empire, and other allies including Polish, Norwegian, South African, you get the picture, hadn't resisted there would have been no WW2 for America to join well after the party started.



As for the far east; who liberated Burma and kept the Japanese out of India?



Despite claims to the contrary from Hollywood it wasn't Errol Flynn.



In fact I think you'll find it was those dreaded Brits and their allies.



Who chased Rommel out of north Africa?



Those bloody Brits led by Montgomery. (the clown)



Market Garden could have gone either way, it was as Daphne Du Maurier's husband said "a bridge too far"



Question; Where were the Dutch government and royal family residing while all this was going on?



Answer; Ottawa. Give or take 3,000 miles from the action.



Where were the British royals at th

Izzet



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Message Posted:
03/09/2009 04:33

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.