uktv direct - fantastic news - major dish size reduction

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
11/11/2009 22:59

NEW IMPROVED SERVICE FOR CYPRUS, GREECE, ITALY, MALTA coming very soon ......



Customers in the above countries will soon be able to receive our FANTASTIC service on a "MAXIMUM OF A 65CM - 85CM SATELLITE DISH".



MANY Extra channels are also being added to the service as well so keep and eye on our website:



http://www.uktvdirect.com



Watch our website over the next 2 weeks and all will be revealed.



NO negative debates will be entered into on here so those that wish to start one (you know who you are) need not bother trying to stir one up.



COMING VERY SOON WITH A VERY SMALL DISH IN CYPRUS WATCH ALL THE UKTV CHANNELS THAT YOU WANT INCLUDING BBC1,2,3,4, ITV1,2,3,4, CH4 & FIVE !



Charles

eastendjoker


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 00:15

sounds fantastic 595 euros and thats it ! for ever ! who could possibly find fault with this !

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 00:19

Their is a viewing charge after the 1st year of 250€ for 12 months.

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 00:31

Msg 1 & 3



Have you answered the concerns of the previous posts/threads disgruntled with your 'service' or lack of?



Richard

baldeagle


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Posts: 354

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 00:46

Wow!!! 595 Euros to set up and then 250 Euros a year just to view, sounds a very expensive way just to watch Uk television.

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 00:54

Bring back mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and this will end up in yet another satellite slanging match of the two Titan's!



Richard

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 03:41

Charles at least you came here to give some explanations.



Can I ask you how will you be able to add more channels?

Have you rented another transponder?



If what you say is true then channels will be banging on my 2.4m dish here in Paphos!

I am ready to verify the signal as soon as the channels reappear to give an impartial review on reception.

I will also try reception on an 85cm dish.

cyprusunited


Joined: 03/08/2009
Posts: 184

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 03:59

Meanwhile both kingofsat and flysat are saying your package has left the satellite!

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 07:05

Charles may I suggest as new channels to be introduced some regional variants of BBC and ITV,such as BBC Scotland or Grampian.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 07:56

all will be revealed in the next few days

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 08:12

I can´t wait to see the outcome of this.

Up to yesterday uktvdirect´s system seemed finished,and now Charles comes back to say they will still be around!

What will happen?

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 08:32

Its all Good News and very exciting

scootex



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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 09:13

GOT THE MAKINGS OF A TV SOAP . SAT WARS

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 09:38

Well,I´m trying to think about this announcement by Charles.

I know that satellites,once launched,don´t usually have the option to increase the output power of their beams.

Especially considering Intelsat905 which is not the best sat in terms of health.

I´d be very surprised to see a power increase.



But on the other hand,if Charles decided to reappear here with this surprising announcement,this means he probably has a joker to play.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 09:40

Next exciting episode coming soon

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 09:48

You will need to get your spanner and satellite tuner out

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 09:50

www.uktvdirect.com just keeps getting stronger and better !

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 09:56

Another question for you Charles:how can you put more than 24 channels on one transponder?

Yes MPEG4 is a good compression format,but really i see no room for more channels.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 09:58

More than one TP will be used we are expanding

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 10:03

Get your spanner and satellite tuner ready

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 10:04

Will you be using the same cards to access the system?

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 10:09

YES - Same cards

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 10:18

One of the main reasons for this change is to satisfy the many enquiries from Cyprus and a couple of other countries from potential customers that cannot or will not have a large dish.



We listened and have responded positively.



http://www.uktvdirect.com/

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 11:35

Yes it has to be said the previous setup was substantially unpractical here in Cyprus.



But still I´m wondering how you will manage to increase the power in order to lower the dish size needed..

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 11:38

NEW Satellite, Get your spanner and satellite tuner ready.

ballymurphy


Joined: 20/09/2009
Posts: 166

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 12:17

Hi Charles I know nothing about Sat' TV, I have the very basic Digiturk package. If I signed up for UKTV what will I get for my money ? how many dishes do I need ? Who fits the package and where do I get the card from ? Oh ! how many UK TV channels will I receive ?

BM

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 12:54

Check out our website for current channels list but remember new ones will also be added soon to enhance the current service.



a local installer fits it and the card and equipment come together in a package.



http://www.uktvdirect.com/

fiendishpaul


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Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 14:36

Charles



I have dish, box with card slot etc. I assume that all I would require is a dish realignment and card. What sort of cost would I be looking at ??



Paul

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 16:14

You need a special receiver for the service and yours is probably not suitable.



Wait until the full details are published in the next few days and if you are still interested then we will arrange for an installer to call and give you a quotation.

ballymurphy


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Posts: 166

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 18:04

Thank you Charles

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 19:24

No problem keep an eye on the website and on here over the coming days

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 21:34

Charles,regarding Paul´s question,I seem to recall from your website that you need an MPEG4 receiver with Irdeto card slot.

Is this right?

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 21:43

yes the details are on the website: http://www.uktvdirect.com

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 21:46

You need a DVB - S2 (8PSK) compliant receiver

Hector


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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 21:47

Frankly it all sounds like the type of email that goes straight into my spam box.

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
12/11/2009 21:54

Hector

Wrong thread maybe?

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
12/11/2009 23:49

Charles what did you tell to current clients about this?

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
13/11/2009 00:44

And another question:are installers for Cyprus areas already in place with knowledge of the new changes?

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
13/11/2009 08:16

Yes they are !



We are away for a few days now until next week so i cannot reply to any posts.



Will post an update when i return.

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
13/11/2009 10:03

So the improved service will not start until next week?

PaulW



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Message Posted:
13/11/2009 10:14

Why is it that you always promise something "Starting Very Soon". But never seem to come back to say "Well Here It Is". Do you hope that people may sign up to you just in case what you are saying is actually the truth?



If I were to want a good reliable service then I would go to someone I trust, Iceman!



Paul

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
13/11/2009 10:52

Paul - Just for your information we are not signing anyone new up until the changes are implemented so that we can actualy demonstrate the very strong signal and quality product we are offering.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
13/11/2009 10:54

C.U - Thats where i am going now to check on the progress of the changes and will post when i have confirmation that everything is OK.

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
13/11/2009 11:04

Charles put some frequency details.

I have a spare 85cm dish that I can use here in Paphos to verify the improvements.

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
13/11/2009 11:11

got to go now and as i have said when the improved signal/service service is up and running i will give you all the details that you need.

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
13/11/2009 11:18

Take your time Charles,but how are you dealing with the existing clients?

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
13/11/2009 12:41

All existing clients are being dealt with and will be moved to the new system F.O.C.

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
13/11/2009 19:29

If true it is the right thing to do towards your existing customers.

james1970


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Message Posted:
14/11/2009 14:43

They have had to move from Intelsat due to problems with the satellite and tranponders...as predicted by 6m...and shot down by someone else!!!!!



So not exactly "we listened and decided to improve the system", more "we had to move"...



as per the post

http://satandpcguy.com/forum/a-polite-discussion-t392-15.html#p1188

from someone who seems to know more...

Apparently no service at the moment, but negotiations for another satellite with a larger footprint are in the offering.

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 16:35

James i refer you to POST 1 which you obviously did not read !



" NO negative debates will be entered into on here so those that wish to start one (you know who you are) need not bother trying to stir one up."

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 18:04

I did read post 1.

And decided to post the real reason why the system is not working at the moment, and why it is on the move, and why reception will / should / may / may not be better in the future.

As you did not.

Not very customer focused are you.

Fancy not telling them the truth.

Why not just post the reason for change in the first place and stop all the guessing and "cryptic" messages?



And re "negative debates", it just goes to show 6m knew what he was on about when he said that the satellite was on its last legs and may not last long....so much for your 3 year contract with Intelsat!!!

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:22

You know nothing and are just guessing and taking information from other people who know very little also.



I like factual comments and not guesswork & coming from somebody that lives with their mother in Torrevieja and cannot afford to buy a house in any country but posts saying they are moving around europe looking where to buy a place to live as if they are a wealthy property tycoon, get real and stop posting just for your own entertainment, maybe if you got a job and spent more time earning a living instead of sponging off your parents you would have a little lees time to spin your tales on here !



mmmmmm was correct on a few things:



1, The satellite footprint is poor for the Cyprus area.

2, The satellite does have some issues but more than were explained to us at the time we started to use it.



cont.

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:36

where are you 6xm?????????

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
14/11/2009 19:38

But you and mmmmmm are very wrong about most other things.



We are still in business after more than 6 months.



We moved because Intelsat could not deliver and we have moved to the satellite that we will be using very soon because of demand from Cyprus and other countries.



We are not being cryptic about anything and have even posted the new satellite details on the website.



We are expanding the service to include more channel choice and a much stronger signal in fringe reception areas.



SO IN SHORT IF YOU WANT FACTS WATCH THE WEBSITE: http://www.uktvdirect.com or wait for a FATUAL POST ON HERE AND NOT ILL INFORMED RAMBLINGS FROM THE GUESSING MAN FROM TORREVIEJA WHO'S MUMMY STILL DOES HIS WASHING.

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 20:24

"We moved because Intelsat could not deliver...because of demand from Cyprus and other countries."



against "polites" post of "satellite failure" meant yu have to move to another satellite....



So are you then saying that the poster "polite" on the forum I linked to is a GUESSING MAN with ILL INFORMED RAMBLINGS???



He claims to be from your signal supplier...or very closley link to BTNSAT....



So it is not too good for you if you are dissing your signal supplier by calling his posts on that forum as lies and ill informed!



Left hand - right hand...



"We are not being cryptic about anything "

so what was "Watch our website over the next 2 weeks and all will be revealed" and "Next exciting episode coming soon " and "Get your spanner and satellite tuner ready" all about....could you not have just posted a messgae ot your cliebnts saying due to satellite failure we are moving to a new satellite and your dishes will be realigned for free....saves the "davinci code" crap...

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 20:27

and oh

Read Post 1

"NO negative debates will be entered into on here so those that wish to start one (you know who you are) need not bother trying to stir one up. "

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 20:34

"You know nothing and are just guessing and taking information from other people who know very little also."



So are you saying the person posting as "polite" on that forum knows nothing....and is guessing....



Even though he states he is closely linked to BTNsat, has been authorised to post all the information on that thread and has been very well informed of the issues and questions posted to him on that forum...



It does not look too good if two "agents" are saying different things is it?

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 20:42

"WHO'S MUMMY STILL DOES HIS WASHING"



That would be really something considering she passed away 2 months ago....

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 20:51

Just to let you guys know:

This thread is being monitored and if postings get out of hand then the whole thread will be deleted.

Just keep it factual and respectful.

AJ

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
14/11/2009 21:01

Msg 1



A very easy marketing ploy for you. Anyone who wishes to sign up with you, install all necessary equipment for the connections of channels you promise then backdate payment after every 6 months of successful reception. That's of course if you believe in your own business!



Richard

uktvdirect


Joined: 29/07/2009
Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 00:18

Nice attempt at sympathy James but someone i know very well saw you in your local with you mother last friday night so i think your attempts at trying to make me look bad are scraping the bottom of the barrel now !



You are just taking negative comments from people who have vested interest in installing satellite tv via a large dish and taking their comments as factual.



As for other people that state they have a link to our service maybe they do but not as high profile as they may try to make out, remember that in your area there are loads of X telmicro installers working for 50€ a day that now install for anyone that offers, maybe they think they are intune with this new system but their knowledge is limited and all information that they submit should be taken with a pinch of salt.



The true facts will be posted here and on the website soon.



Please try and restrain your comments unless you actualy know what you are talking about !

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 00:56

So, if as you say "polite" is lying and there was not a transponder failure, why would the system be removed from the already-to-be-known-to-be-ailing Intelsat before a suitable replacement satellite was found - leaving your hundreds of thousands of clients without TV for a week....without any suitable announcement of this prior to this happening, and no confirmation a suitable replacement has yet been contacted....



At least "polite" has given more information about the system in a more professional manner than youself. And who knows where "polite" is based...any one can post on any board whereever they are located...he may even be in Morocco...he may even be you for all we know in a Jekyl and Hyde guise....





"Nice attempt at sympathy James but someone i know very well saw you in your local with you mother last friday night!"

V unlikely my mother would have been in a pub - especially the one i was in last weekend when I was in London where I was all weekend for the rugby....

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
15/11/2009 01:10

James - i did not say that the transponders had not failed or your source was lying i said that their information was to be taken with a pinch of salt !



You need to pay attention !



Also the NEW satellite is confirmed if you had checked our website you would know this !



** You are not a nice person using family members as a weapon and lying about their state of health please refrain from such low and dirty tactics it is not nice and has no place anywhere on a public forum, do you have no respect or scruples ? **

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 01:21

Confused.

If you are not denying the facts that the trasnponders have failed, why say those posts by someone who is linked to BTNSAT (maybe in the same way you are?) with "a pinch of salt"?

Especailly when they posted the reason why your service has gone own on Intelsat, and you have not, but only just now, confirmed what he has been saying all along?



"Also the NEW satellite is confirmed if you had checked our website you would know this !"

Which you could have easily posted on here also...

Can you confirm the frequency yet...or do we have to guess at that or wait for "polite" to post it?





"You are not a nice person using family members as a weapon and lying about their state of health"

You mentioned my mother first, i corrected you about her health, you claim to know me, or know someone who does, who saw me in a place i have been to twice...so "please refrain from such low and dirty tactics it is not nice , do YOU have no respect or scruples?"

baldeagle


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Posts: 354

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 01:29

Charles what happened to message 1

NO negative debates will be entered into on here so those that wish to start one (you know who you are) need not bother trying to stir one up.



Come on children calm down!!!!!!

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 02:07

Good point, JAMES stick to the Spanish forums as you are NEVER likely to move to N.C unless your parents buy a house here !

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 02:13

CLOSED - END OF THIS CURRENT TOPIC AS TORREVIEJA JAMES HAS CREATED A NEGATIVE VIBE, SO AS FAR AS UKTV IS CONCERNED THIS THREAD IS CLOSED.



When something new is available to report we will start a new topic but please keep checking the website - http://www.uktvdirect.com for updates in the meantime.



Thank you for the continued support from our customers and sensible posters.

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 06:18

Oh no!

What has Torrevieja to do with Cyprus?

James let´s keep things technical.

I have taken my old 85cm dish out from the garage and waiting for Charles to give details so i can check if signal is strong enough here in Paphos.

james1970


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 11:02

"James let´s keep things technical. "

I thought I did by posting a link to the real reason for the move between satellites.

"Intelsat905 is not reliable anymore"

And why ALL BTN / uktv services are curently unavailable.

"The failure on Intelsat transponders is so serious that all (BTN) services had to be removed"

And a link which posted the satellite company they are considering using.

"negotiations with EUTELSAT"

And asking for the frequency now that charles has confirmed the satellite being used.



Personally I think I have posted / linked to more information about the situation than charles's "guess whats going to happen" posts!!





I never started the personal stuff re my mother, or 6ms family on other thread...

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
15/11/2009 11:51

Yes James those technical links are ok.

I was meaning the personal discussions you had in other posts.



I hope Charles can provide soon the tuning details,I want to try an 85cm dish.

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 12:02

I am sure it will appear on more satellite technical forums before it appears on here....just like the Intelsat frequencies did...as they will have to do all their tests first (if they do any )



The satellite at 9 east (if that is the one they will end up using) is the same one that carries the standalone BBC Prime that covers most of Europe, so reception should be fine over most of Europe...why not hook up you dish now and look at a site like lyngsat.com for some frequencies to paly with? Or look at the footprint maps on there also?

spud1


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Posts: 544

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 13:28

uktvdirect. info required please. i have a 1.8 dish fitted to my apartment i bring my sky receiver with me + card. will i need the dish re-aligned to receive itv & bbc. spud1

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
15/11/2009 23:10

Your dish would need moving or you could put up a 2nd small 85cm one and you will need a new different receiver and viewing card.

spud1


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Posts: 544

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 11:50

uktvdirect. many thanks for your reply as i am only there for around 6 weeks a year and i receive lots of channells including sky sports i dont think its worth having an extra dish fitted. once again many thanks. spud1

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 12:16

It´s about a week now without any testing on sight yet.

Charles sincerely I´m feeling a bit disappointed..

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
16/11/2009 12:33

Spud - you are probably correct in your observation, i would stick with what you have if you are only using your property for short time periods in the year.



C.U - New satellite / transponders and internal testing take time to implement please have some patience !

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 12:34

re msg 53 Rowlo



Oh I'm around..



'Charles' how many subscribers are going to trust you by stumping up 500 plus Euros for a service I predicted would have 'issues' ... you made a crummy biz / tech decision to use Intelsat 905 and said I was 'jealous' ... I told you it would never work in Cyprus, you constantly told the punters I knew nothing... ;)



Your dish size estimates were *mine*.. eventually



Your biz model ( relying on punters to stump up big up front payments ) will NEVER float financially..



You will now need to pay out 40% more for a more reliable satellite



You 'claim' your service cannot be hacked.. I say it can and is, and in the north of Cyprus - IF your service gets off the ground, it will no doubt be 'available' via card sharing..



It is 'interesting' how a company could lose service and take so long to arrange an alternative.. I VERY much doubt you are involved in 'negotiations' - and wonder why you would be so 'busy' and 'un-contactable.'

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
16/11/2009 12:43

Lastly, I just love the way you gloss over a complete lack of service as 'fantastic news'... you would make a good spin doctor for the present UK govt.. and just as believable..



PLEASE folks.. if you value your savings .. do NOT pay huge up front payments - insist on paying monthly - by credit card. ANY reputable, legal sat company offers this service..if they don't - WALK AWAY...

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 12:53

re msg 6



>>this will end up in yet another satellite slanging match of the two Titan's! <<



'Titan' implies both were strong 'opponents'... :P

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 12:54

mmmmmm - SHUT UP PLEASE AND DO NOT START YOUR NONSENSE AGAIN - unless you have something new to contribute - every thread you get involved with gets closed - you repeat the same thing over and over again - do the large dish installers charging 2,400€ for a set up allow payment monthly via credit card to spread this massive cost ? I think not !



I will not be getting into heated debates with you this time so do not waste your time as all it does is spoil the thread and eventualy causes its closure.

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 13:16

My only question is:will this system restart?

beanbag


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Posts: 44

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 15:27

rep msg 77.



i would not consider card sharing a system as having "hacked it".

equipment to cs usually ends up costing more than the official equip. and is unrealable.

sky has been shared for the last 3 or 4 years but i would never consider it as being "hacked".

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 15:44

Msg 80



Why should 6xm shut up??



He has given sound advice on not just your service or lack of current service shall we call it for the sake of argument but also on other TV service provider scams.



we for one appreciate the input from 6xm.

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 16:10

I agree with beanbag.

But the fact is there is nothing to hack now!

The system is down at the moment.

rowlo



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Message Posted:
16/11/2009 16:10

msg 83 , here here ,where you been by the way ??

spud1


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Message Posted:
16/11/2009 16:32

hi mmmmmm. did you receive my email. spud1

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
16/11/2009 16:40

Rowlo



(Off topic I know) just been watching on the sidelines for a few months but decided to log in again.



msg 80



I will not be getting into heated debates with you this time so do not waste your time as all it does is spoil the thread and eventualy causes its closure.



You don't need to get into heated debates just have some tranparency and tell the truth, after all 6xm has been right about your service up to now, I know who's opinion I would trust on this issue.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 17:47

Dear 'Charles'



Do try not to deflect... It is pointless trying insult someone who clearly saw and sees the end game here...



I have no agenda - other than to ensure folk don't get diddled...

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 17:51

re 77



AHA the reappearance of the infamous 'beanbag'.. you know that guy from Turkey who told us his 'UK TV Direct' system was working perfectly..



Are you a glove puppet of 'Charle's' or just an alter ego .. It's just that I can STILL only find you ever contribute re 'UK TV [no so ] Direct'

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 18:14

re 82 'Beanbag'





>>i would not consider card sharing a system as having "hacked it".



equipment to cs usually ends up costing more than the official equip. and is unrealable.



sky has been shared for the last 3 or 4 years but i would never consider it as being "hacked".<<



Oh dear, another 'expert' who has clearly not set foot in Cyprus...



1/ NDS card sharing ( SKY) now snookered..



2/ No so Irdeto - which happens to be the system 'UK not so direct' use... certain northern region of CY companies are card sharing and having the cheek to charge for it... They pirate legit service such as Showtimearabia, Fimlnet, Nova ..



For sure they won't be around consistently.. but as long as there are punters who can be conned...

beanbag


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Posts: 44

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 19:01

Yes i know sky is now snookered as far as cs was concerned. but that is not what i said is it.

what i actually said is that sky had been shared for the last 3 or 4 years, but i would never consider sky "hacked".

beanbag


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Posts: 44

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 19:05

re 89.

when did i ever say i was in Turkey?

or come to that did I say I lived in Cyprus?



Yes Beanbag is back and not one of ýour little yes men many mmmmms.

if i disagree with what you post i will say so.

zerochlor


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Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 21:52

Message 90



hey 6m,s..



thats my pet name for charles..uktv not so direct. cant pinch that!!



good to see you both back in the ring.



im in you corner 6m,s



hey charlie boy.



do you remember the advert years ago on british TV..charlie says never play with matches..think it was aimed at kids,about fire safety ..some of you must remember it ??



well now charlie says , never part with your money for a satalite systen in cyprus,as you might get your fingers burnt!

so uk tv not so direct, whens the next episode charlie big dish !

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 22:14

I think beanbag is right about the meaning of hacking.

Technnically speaking a hack is compromising an encryption system by extracting working keys from a smartcard and programming them in a pirate card.

Instead cardsharing does not violate the system,it uses a network to share the operational keys taken from an official smartcard.



Beanbag i remember you said you had the system installed.

Now that it is down have you contacted who installed your system?

What did they tell you?

beanbag


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Posts: 44

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 23:35

Hi cyprusunited.

yes i did contact the agents who installed my system, i was told about the need the change sat. and that it was hoped to be up again by the weekend (that is the weekend just gone) so appears to be taking longer than expected. still nothing is ever straight forward in the sat game.

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
16/11/2009 23:56

Thanks beanbag.

Why don´t you phone them again to hear the new prospected start date?

I have to say if I had forked out 600 euros I´d be a bit furious for this long interruption.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 00:55

Dear 'Beanbag' re 89



>> when did i ever say i was in Turkey? <<



in your profile... I told the liberty of taking a screen grab.. again.. ;)



Now about Cyprus...what is your connection / 'expertise' as you have only ever posted about ' UK no so direct' ?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 01:16

or TOOK ( rather than told) !

beanbag


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 01:20

re msg 96.

at the moment in the uk, will be back next week, so not too bothered. but will ring tomorrow for and update and post info.

beanbag


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Posts: 44

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 01:23

re msg 97.

sorry mmmm,s never even noticed that, must have been by mistake. never even been to Turkey

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 02:29

Beanbag thanks,please report tomorrow about the phone call and what they tell you.



mmmmmm

I have made other contributions in the forum other than uktvdirect thread.

I was the first to ask about your wife´s health,maybe you could be using some good manners sometimes.

But I´m happy anyway,your rude attitude is back again so it means things are going better for your wife.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 11:58

Dear Carl from Paphos



Actually, you wondered where I was... when you couldn't view UK not so direct - as predicted... thanks....



You later, for which I thanked you and everybody else, enquired about my wife's health ..



Re the other threads.. ah yes.. VPNS .. where you told fibs about me..



a tip don't take on a pedant ...

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 12:17

Dear Beanbag re 100



>>sorry mmmm,s never even noticed that, must have been by mistake. never even been to Turkey<<



Strange , that ... YOU had put Turkey in you profile, and we all asked you HOW your got 'uk tv no so direct' so perfectly in TURKEY, ( after you had called me a 'pirate' .. and then you 'disappeared'...





http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/23217.asp





SO.. where ARE you located? .. *you* invited to see your 'prefect reception of ' uk no so direct' on your 85 cm dish... Don't be shy ..;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 13:14

OMG.. my spelling is atrocious...

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 14:12

What exactly are you bringing to this thread mmmmmm ?



Posts: 102-4 are all just because you like the sound of your own voice !



Now please try and hold back from just posting rubbish for the sake of it and if you want a discussion lets keep it sensible and have one.

beanbag


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Posts: 44

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 14:39

re. msg 103



not at all shy mmms. check my profile i have changed it to me present location.

TJinthesun



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Posts: 40

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 14:42

Still waiting to a reply to my 2 e-mails asking for the name/number of an installer in the TRNC. I live close to Kyrenia. Last one sent in September........



Benefit of the doubt running out. Reference site would be nice.



Cheers,

TJ

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 16:03

Dear 'charles'



>>What exactly are you bringing to this thread mmmmmm <<



Proven sound advice concerning pirates using dodgy biz models and crummy old satellites..



ergo .. don't give someone 600 Euros up front - you'll lose it ..

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 16:07

TJ - I have emailed you .

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 16:14

OK - seen as though you are trying to be a smart arse once again and create bad will for our venture let me ask you a question mr so called TV expert



All these people (forum members) that you are recommending should install a 1.8m dish and buy a SKY HD receiver and subscribe to SKY so that they can receive some UKTV channels in Cyprus (Not the main ones they really want though).



Are you absolutely 100% sure that they will still be able to receive them in Cyprus in 12 months time ?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 17:28

Dear 'Charles'



re msg 110



Unlike you I'm happy to answer questions..



But first- do tell us where I was wrong about you being clueless about Cyprus and the Eastern Med market...? I warned you about 'your' choice of satellite and you got personal about my Wfe, referring to me as a 'pirate', jealous 4.2m dish seller, and much more... You tried to belittle my knowledge of the market ;)



I KNOW you fibbed about the number of clients you had in Cyprus and dealers .. you can't EVEN be honest about what went wrong with Intelsat 905..



No.. I can't be sure that ITV will be available on a 1.8m dish.. but I do know that 30 plus REAL HD channels will work and folk can receive those channels for a LOT less .. than 595 Euros .and can pause / record - time shift - to suit the CY +2 time difference.



I even know of a service, that is in advanced beta test - NOW - that will offer BBC / ITV, etc., in Cyprus - that will render your service obsolete .. *I* don't fib..

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 18:01

mmmmmm

"I even know of a service, that is in advanced beta test - NOW - that will offer BBC / ITV, etc., in Cyprus - that will render your service obsolete .."



is that a copy of uktvdirect?

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 18:34

He is trying to put the boot in yet again and he is talking about a CRAPPY internet TV service yet again which as we all know are great as a short term fix but are NO WAY reliable or stable enough to be a long term solution.



** By far the best streamed internet TV service available is http://www.filmon.com who are also in beta testing at the moment but even with their financial clout and sophysticated equipment the service is far from perfect and buffers and freezes at peak viewing times even on high speed ADSL / Broadband connections **



"Unlike you I'm happy to answer questions"



What is the new service called that is in final BETA testing then ?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 21:17

Dear Carl from Paphos ... re msg 112



'Uk tv not so direct' *is* the copy - a PIRATED service...







Dear 'charles' from 'UK tv not so direct' re 113



>>He is trying to put the boot in yet again and he is talking about a CRAPPY internet TV service<<



Nope .. you see I was FAR better at knowing your plan and how it wouldn't work.. ..It was never necessary to 'put in boot in' .. you had already shot youselves in the foot .. no help needed from me... I just prophesied it..



What I'm talking about will supply UK TV via an ordinary sat receiver or SKY ones if the folk want to subscribe...



I note - as usual - you studiously avoiding answering the Qs that demonstrate you TOTAL lack of forward planning - from a marketing and technical perspective...



WHY would ANY ONE believe a word you say.. let along trust an agent with nearly 600 Euros - with no recourse - eludes me ..

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 21:28

Name the NEW service then if you are happy to answer any questions "you said it" unless of course you are making it up again ? Just to try and cause problems for us in your normal manner !



You attacked me on many occaisions in the past for not giving all the information so if indeed there is something NEW looming spill the beans or you are no better than you try to make me out to be !

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 21:48

" mmmmmm " I just prophesied it.. " Now he thinks he is Jesus or God.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 21:56

Dear 'Charles' re msg 115/6



1/ Was my 'prophesy' incorrect ? .. One didn't need to be JC - just someone in the biz - to know your biz model was an accident waiting to happen



2/ The new service is in advanced beta test... when it is ready to launch you will know..;) OH YES.. EVERYONE will know.. !

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 22:23

You are no better than you make me out to be then and will not give the facts !



I had reason to keep things quiet at the time as well but as you are obviously involved in a competitors business you continue to slate our service, talk about hidden motives.



You will be outed as the RAT in disguise that you really are in the end.



By the way on a non related topic can you please change your profile foto as your picture is very strange, i will not say what you look like on here as its not the place but i strongly recommend a change.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 22:29

COME ON mmmmmm LETS HAVE THE DETAILS ?

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 22:30

COME ON mmmmmm LETS HAVE THE DETAILS x 2 ?

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 22:31

Remind you of someone questions mmmmmm ?



Yes, Yours the same ones repeated over and over again !

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 22:33

Any details on the NEW service yet mmmmmm come on you said that you answer questions but it seems that you only answer the ones that you want to ! something that you constantly had a go at me for come on fairs fair play the game as you set it out !

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 22:38

mmmmmm:



Who's the company ?

Whats their address ?

Whats their Contact telephone numbers ?

Do they take credit cards ?

Do you have to pay any upfront payment and if so how much ?

What size dish does it require ?

What are the installers contact details ?

What is the website address ?

What channels will they show and do they have permission from the channel owners to show them ?



Come on you said you answer question !

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
17/11/2009 22:50

mmmmmm - 'Uk tv not so direct' *is* the copy - a PIRATED service... "



If you say that there is a new service coming to Cyprus that will show BBC1 / ITV1 etc and its not streamed via the internet then it must be via satellite or rebroadcast via microwave or cable which the BBC etc as you keep telling everybody do not allow so what is the difference between that and the UKTV DIRECT service that you continuously slate and put down ?



Keep your fantasy services coming mmmmmm people are not stupid they know when you are on the wind up.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 23:35

we are waiting mmmmmm do not let us down put your monet where your very large mouth is !

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 23:40

money even !

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 00:37

Have you though that the system has not been officially annouced so certain details may be withheld for "commerically sensitive reasons". Once the system is up and running your questions will be answered as it will be in the public domain.



As opposed to not answering questions on a system that has been launched.....

lovingcyprus


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Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 00:46

Sounds to me as if these uktvdirect guys are wind up merchants!!!!!!!!!!!!

james1970


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 00:47

As you should be aware many companies try to withhold details of their latest ventures until an offical launch date and when testing is done.



I am sure that it any new service will be announce in due course, maybe even by spamming forums.....

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 01:00

I very much doubt anything actualy exists at all apart from in mmmmmm's imagination !



As I am sure that he would not recommend anything that he deems as being illegal or pirated.



Given that he says its not via the internet and also tells us constantly that the BBC etc do not allow the rebroadcasting via satellite, microwave or cable of their programs then how can any other type of system be possible that comes up to his high expectations and double standards.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 01:11

Maybe mmmmmm's NEW service is via the new super 8m prime focus dishes that they are producing in America

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 02:33

mark



J

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 09:14

Mark

I´m interested to know more on this new system.

Can you provide more details,dish size required?

beanbag


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Posts: 44

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 10:16

re. mesg 129.

so James are you actually saying that this "company" is keeping all of the details confidential, but only telling mmmmms. because he is such a good honest guy and they know he will keep it confidential.

wow he truely is a satellite god.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 10:20

Good Morning, Jeannie ;D



'Carl from Paphos' ... as I said to 'Charles'.. you will hear =like everyone else - when it is ready to launch.. Folk can then judge ( AGAIN) whether it is 'charles' or I that has the 'over active imagination' !



What I can confirm is that it WILL be legal..without ' ' LEGAL.. I wouldn't advise folk to invest in anything else..

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 10:47

Beanbag, re 134



>>are you actually saying that this "company" is keeping all of the details confidential, but only telling mmmmms. because he is such a good honest guy and they know he will keep it confidential. <<



Actually, I wish it WAS my idea...it will be a winning concept ..if the trials of the pre production kit bear out in full scale manufacture and real-time performance..

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 10:48

Mark



When you say Legal do you mean they will have permission from the bbc?

Which is the thing uktvdirect´s system hasn´t.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 10:56

Dear 'Carl from Paphos'



re msg 139



Permission from the BBC will NOT be needed - no re broadcasting involved - BBC's channels are broadcast in clear - no encryption.. Does one need permission to watch BBC in France?

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:04

"What I can confirm is that it WILL be legal..without ' ' LEGAL.. I wouldn't advise folk to invest in anything else.."



mmmmmm - I do not understand how you can say this now as in the past you have said that the only way to get it legaly here in Cyprus is direct from the Astra 28 satellites, has something changed that no one else apart from you knows about ?



I think not !



Maybe he is talking about "Real Tv" which is exactly the same as Freesat and Free SKY and from the same satellites but with a different EPG and some extra paid content but still requires a monster dish in Cyprus to watch the main channels of interest !



Other than that it can only be some form of Internet TV which mmmmmm says its not ?

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:10

Permission from the BBC will NOT be needed - no re broadcasting involved - BBC's channels are broadcast in clear - no encryption.. Does one need permission to watch BBC in France?



We are not in France mmmmmm !



Must be the internet then so forget it, complete waste of time and money until the internet speeds and stabilty improves in Cyprus !

beanbag


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:12

I think mmmmmms speaks with forked tongue

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:15

Mark

"Permission from the BBC will NOT be needed - no re broadcasting involved - BBC's channels are broadcast in clear - no encryption.. Does one need permission to watch BBC in France?"

No permission is required in France but only if it is direct reception of Astra 2D satellite at 28 East.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:20

Correct..... you got it...;)

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:21

You need to change your medication mmmmmm it is making you talk rubbish !

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:23

Correct..... you got it...;)



mmmmmm - so now you are saying that people will be able to watch BBC1 etc in Cyprus direct from the Astra 28 satellites without the need for a large dish, now you have really lost the plot !

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:30

Mark



A 4.2m dish is required for BBC in Cyprus!

With my 2.4m here in Paphos I don´t get the slightest signal from Astra 2D.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:33

I think he knows that he is the only EXPERT on here after all

cyprusunited


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 11:50

Well I´m an installer and here is my opinion on this:

Charles in part deserves the criticism because his system is not even broadcasting now and nobody knows when it will start,and up to now there is no sign of testing coming from Eurobird 9.



But Mark is not clear either by saying it will be possible to get direct reception of Astra 2D in Cyprus without a large dish.Whereas this can be achieved only with very large dishes from 3m upwards to 4.2m.

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 12:03

C.U - Even if you were the head of the BBC mmmmmm would argue with you as he is so far up his own backside that he thinks he knows more than everyone on the planet about TV.



The thing that suprises me the most is if he is as good and intelligent as he thinks he is then what happened with the Internet Streaming TV service that he runs it is far from the work of a professional and looks like a 15 year old students hobby project !

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 13:30

Dear 'Carl from Paphos' re 146/8



All you say is true.. in fact I'd recommend a 4.5m in Paralimini / Ayai Napa if the dish is shared..



In Paphos - if your 2.4m is a Portugese Famaval, you can fit extensions and re-enfoce the dish .. you'd get 2D just fine..



>> Mark is not clear either by saying it will be possible to get direct reception of Astra 2D in Cyprus without a large dish.Whereas this can be achieved only with very large dishes from 3m upwards to 4.2m.<<



All in good time, 'Carl' .. I mean who would advertise something ANY ONE in the industry knows will never fly - technically or financially ..and without researching the dish sizes required?



Where are all these clients in Cyprus who had installs? Where are all the agents ?

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 13:40

mmmmmm - You truly are a NUTCASE !

uktvdirect


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 13:41

mmmmmm:







Who's the company ?



Whats their address ?



Whats their Contact telephone numbers ?



Do they take credit cards ?



Do you have to pay any upfront payment and if so how much ?



What size dish does it require ?



What are the installers contact details ?



What is the website address ?



What channels will they show and do they have permission from the channel owners to show them ?







Come on you said you answer question !

Chegwin


Joined: 24/03/2009
Posts: 775

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 13:49

This has got to be a wind up as ever since this topic started, and not just this thread, but quite a while back, there doesn’t seem to be anyone who has the UKTV Direct system in TRNC.

And without trawling through all the previous posts I can’t recall ever reading a note from anyone who has actually got the UKTV Direct system and is watching it and can say it works.

So, begs the question again. Is there anyone out there who has this system and can comment upon its quality?

We could then possibly move on a little and get away from the pointless jousting about who has the biggest and best dish.

Chegwin

lovingcyprus


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Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 15:49

Chegwin, uktvdirect are as you say wind up merchants the sooner this thread is closed the better. If they are genuine why should they benefit from free advertising

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 16:18

I do not mind CLOSE the thread as MMMMMM has turned it into his personal vendetta agaisnt us yet again and its lost its purpose !

cyprusunited


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Posts: 184

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 16:44

Charles how often do you have contacts with the main company?

Any info yet on recommencing services?

Are you sure they are really in talks with another satellite company?

uktvdirect


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Posts: 287

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 17:06

daily and yes, nothing new to share yet !



I am bored with this thread now that mmmmmm has joined with his normal behaviour and taken its purpose away as soon as i have news that you want to hear i will start a new one !

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
18/11/2009 17:13

I do not have any problems closing the thread but if another starts in its place then that also will be closed.

I think nobody really needs to be subjected to this continual 2/3/4 person argument yet again.

AJ

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 17:14

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.