Sweetwater Bay 11 - the birth of paradise!

rocky


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 09:41

Ok you are all reluctant to start the new thread so here it is. Lets keep it positive with no insults, no bad news and only good news. Let us use a high standard of english with no text format, bad grammar or typos. So there will be no postings then!!

andy-f


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 19:05

well said sir richard. we have just had e-mail from maria with photos attached of our fly screens which she overseen being fitted, that girl is great , she wouldnt pay them untill they had cleaned all the sillicon from the drain holes!

as anyone else had fly screens fitted?





andy

mint1955



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 19:12

Who did you get to do them Andy and which windows ?

andy-f


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 19:36

hi shiela , his name is john and he trades as "the flyman" we where put onto him by friends at turtle bay who used him. we have had all three bedrooms ( one of each window) one in our kitchen and the patio door . the total cost was £440 .



andy

rocky


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 20:24

that seems a fair price Andy..did he match up the colour for the frames to the existing windows? also I have found a supplier for a timeswitch to replace the on/off immersion switch. I got the website from Mike. The switch is not a like a central heating timer but a simple selection of buttons to push for 15, 30 and 45 mins I think. They are about £23 each and of course prevents the immersion from being left on. If anyone is going over at christmas why not fit one of course fit one for me as well. It is the same size as the switch and just replaces it.

andy-f


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 20:43

rocky ill send you the e-mail with the photos attached

andy-f


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 23:34

rocky re the e-mail i forwarded from maria , do you think her comments at the end ( "they saddled up and rode away") insues they were cowboys?



if all the screens are still intact when we get over boxing day ill be happy chappie if they are driftwood in the bay ill be asking for our £440 back



andy

rocky


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 23:39

Andy I guess if M had not have been diligent getting them to clear the drain holes and checking that they had fitted the right windows you may have referred to them as cowboys. See how many are left at christmas if there are none left you may still refer to them as cowboys. If you have tried the cowboys next time use Patel & Patel and then you will have tried the Indians. Did you think about the immersion timer? If so do you want the web address if I can find it?

andy-f


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 00:16

hi rocky , send me the web address if you have it ta

sweetpea


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Message Posted:
22/11/2009 18:14

Congratulations to Edith and her great team for winning the Best Development Award (Platinum) and the Gold Award for the best seaside development at the Rocks Hotel last night - you thoroughly deserve to win - outstanding development and big pat on the back for everyone!

andy-f


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Message Posted:
22/11/2009 18:27

well thats great news and well done all at sweetwaterbay, hope we can read about it somewhere or on website .



andy

kibrissibel


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Message Posted:
22/11/2009 18:44

According to this thread: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/26554.asp Sweetwater bay took their customers to court to try and silence them because they opposed them managing the site. If this is the case, why are they being given an award? Last year Seaterra won several awards and yet they mortgaged their Reserve site for £2million (still unpaid) breaching contracts in the process. I'm surprised Gary Robb hasn't been awarded one for selling the cheapest properties. These awards are not voted for by the public or customers and entrants enter themselves and pay a fee. There are many good developers here, but I would suggest the Property Awards panel who judges this does a bit more research before they give out these awards because it will become farsical.

Hector


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Message Posted:
22/11/2009 18:52

Was their an award for 'greatest amount of money raised by a developer on a mortgage on properties already sold'?

mint1955



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Message Posted:
22/11/2009 18:52

Wow thats fantastic news and so well deserved. A real plus for the site and all those that have supported Edith and Mike. SWB is the best site on the Island and now it's offical



GOLD AWARD FOR ‘BEST SEA FRONT DEVELOPMENT'

PLATINUM AWARD FOR 'BEST OVERALL DEVELOPMENT IN THE TRNC'



Bet it was an emotional night, for Edith and Mike receiving the awards from TRNC president MR. TALAT especially platinum being the most coveted category in the competition.



Well done guys xx

Arthur


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Message Posted:
22/11/2009 19:06

Until I hear confirmation, I will treat msg 12, and the related thread as hearsay. One has to ask Elko:



a) which site is he referring to?

b) where did he get his information?



I won't jump to any conclusions.........lets see what happens

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
22/11/2009 20:31

Arthur is it possible that he has been looking at or sharing confidential info if not would he produce the evidence.. I wish I knew the truth... I thought he was supposed to be the most helpful member of the forum

Blackpoolfan


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Message Posted:
22/11/2009 22:37

Andy

What do you want fly screens for i heard you only had a little c*ck............

andy-f


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Message Posted:
22/11/2009 22:56

ste



ill flash you for 50 YTL !

andy-f


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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 22:30

anyone know whats happening regarding the owners association being formed? ive had e-mail from shaun whos started the one thats being deemed "not recognised" by sweetwater and RMS .



as anyone on here joined this one?



im very confused to say the least.



andy

mint1955



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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 22:57

Its incredibly difficult to join something that you cant get a straight answer about I agree!!! An owners association that is only being promoted to a small number of owners and with the suggested founder members having the track record they do doesnt give me a good feeling going forward.....

mint1955



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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 23:06

SWB are going to pay the RMS monthly fees for all unsold units and this association are promoting that SWB will not have a say as fee payers.



This then potentially means the shortfall will be down to the rest of us. So at present approx 40 units still unsold that possibly SWB will now not pay for if this association goes ahead.



If SWB dont have a say and dont pay then that leaves approx 100 of us unit owners to pick up that shortfall!!!!



Figures are as I say approx but thats approx £200 - £250 per year extra each .

andy-f


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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 23:24

hi sheila, so is there an official owners association being formed that as the support of RMS or not?



im still confused! i know whos behind this association and we are not comfortable either but if its the only one going to represent us ?



andy

mint1955



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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 01:32

An owners association should be working for ALL owners and WITH the management company not one that has been setup by a small group of residents that have waged a public campaign against RMS and SWB



SWB have said in their last email ...

It is in the full interest of SWB that such an association is formed, that it

represents ALL unit owners and operates transparently and efficiently in

collaboration with the relevant parties & authorities. SWB does not regard the

relationship between residents and developer as an "Us and Them", as

regretfully evident from the recent attempt of formation (in which an absurd and

illegal attempt is made, to revoke the representation right from legal owners of all

unsold units, i.e. SWB from representation in the association).

We believe the association can (and should) be formed in cooperation of all

parties, for the benefit of everyone.

Personal invitations to join the formal SWB residents association will be sent

individually shortly.

andy-f


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 20:15

ah thats what i wanted to hear " personal invitations to join formal SWB assc will be sent individually shortly" well at least you are in the know !



did you also know this sir rocky?

Arthur


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 00:26

I have to say that SWB/RMS need to get their act together, otherwise people will see SWBOA as the only option. What is disappointing about SWBOA is, despite several attempts by both others and myself to get a straight answer to "who are the subscribers" we simply don't get an answer. However, I think I'd put rather a lot of money on being able to guess the British owners who are subscribers.

More importantly, the M&As as drafted by SWBOA specifically exclude SWB from having any vote or representation, despite the fact that they still own about 30% of the units. When I put the question as to whether SWBOA wanted to give SWB a valid reason to not pay their service charges [because they wouldn't be able to vote], the only answer I got was "that will be for the committee to decide". Actually the answer should have been " we'll amend the M&As". I'm afraid I have no confidence that SWBOA won't be a vehicle run by and for the nucleus of permanent residents.

millzer


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Posts: 978

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 01:12

How much are your monthly fees on SWB? If as you say there are 40 unsold units left and as a guess if your man' fees are £50 per month per apt then that is £24,000 per year that SWB are saying they will pay for the vacant units. It would seem that your SWBOA are giving SWB the perfect opt out excuse not to pay so maybe that is a mistake.



Personally I know of no other developer that has/is paying maintenance fees for unsold units and if SWB do pay, then quite frankly I will be amazed but hey, there's always a first time.

mint1955



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Posts: 988

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 12:21

SamBlaney said over on SWB 10

hi all

hope everyones keeping well!!!! i spoke to maria last week she told me my apartment had been damaged by the rain, SWB/The builders are having to replace my whole wardrobe as it basically got so wet it collapsed inside, and also something to do with my sides?? think there was a fault with the building works between my flat and the one upstairs.... maria said they are working on it and have covered my furnitures so fingers crossed none of that will get damaged. . .





Sam I will check things out for you if you like when we are over soon xxx

Sheila&Phil

andy-f


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 18:35

just had the e-mail from sweetwaterbay about RMS and site fees and other things , looks like they are asking phase twoers to start paying monthly maintainence and phase three,ers to start in feb ithink.



guess what ? no mention of how much!



also reports a recognised owners forum in the process of being set up , anyone any other news?



andy

Arthur


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 19:54

Andy, in reply to you and following my msg 25, to clarify, RMS aren't involved in setting up an association, this is entirely down to SWB. I have to say that at present, apart from getting an e-mail from Marieta, despite e-mailing Yoav over two weeks ago, I have heard nothing from SWB. It is precisely this lack of contact or reply that gives SWBOA oxygen.

We really need Yoav/Edith/Andy to get a grip of this, keep people informed of what is, and what is not happening, and resolve the building problems outlined by Sheila in msg 27.

Also, forming a truly representative association is a top priority- this has been mooted for about four weeks, and yet we have seen no substantive progress.

andy-f


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 20:02

well edith rang me monday morning last week but it was to tell me about the awards sweetwater had won at the rocks , if i had had the e-mail before i would have asked the relevent questions.



seeing we and sheila are over at xmas seems we should have a face to face with them to see whats happening , it does no favours to RMS/ SWEETWATER when they ignore owners e-mails but how many times have we complained about this!

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 22:33

Hi everyone I must confess I am on the fence at the moment re the RA's. I find it difficult to believe that a property developer like SWB will be the first developer to pay maintainance fees.I cannot understand why they would elect to pay fees at this difficult time for developers. I also dont believe they or anyone else should hold a block vote. Any proxy system should be very limited so that no group or individual gets individual control. It is clear that commuications have been poor from SWB and at times from RMS hopefully any RA will have improved communication systems. Even if SWB do facilitate an RA they would have no control witout the block vote. I know some are reluctant to support the RA which has been set up but surely these owners have the same interests in their investments as others do. Yes they appear to have been anti SWB and I can understand some of these frustrations. Regarding RMS I feel we should give them time to prove themselves.

A question how many RAs can we av

rocky


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 22:39

sorry 'av' should read 'have' I ran out of space

andy-f


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 22:52

rocky as the meal with you know who changed your view? thats the vibes im getting



andy

rocky


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 23:09

Andy I am on the fence and may stay there and not join any..waiting to see what the choices are and of course far more information from a very open RA..dont think we have this yet do we?

Arthur


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Message Posted:
02/12/2009 02:43

Rocky- I share your scepticism, but hope I am correct in the assurances I have been given about SWB paying their service charges. I personally don't give a damn about a "block vote", if they own 30% they should have 30% of the votes, in my opinion there is no other way. If you owned two properties, I'm sure you would expect to be entitled to two votes, and so on.

I have to say I'm very frustrated at the promised new association which we're still waiting for- another case of SWB shooting itself in the foot due to the lack of communication.

rocky


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Message Posted:
02/12/2009 09:35

Arthur there are risks if anyone ,albeit SWB or a group of people hold a substantial vote through ownership or proxy . A small number of people or SWB can then take control , believe me I have been in this situation. This goes against what we are all saying including you that all types of owners must be represented. Yes they would be represented but if they provide a proxy the individual(s) do(es) the voting! On a sporting front you must have noticed Ipswich moving towards the play offs.

samblaney1985


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Posts: 159

Message Posted:
02/12/2009 11:22

thanks sheila, that would be great!!! cant wait to get back over there myself : )



x

Arthur


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Message Posted:
02/12/2009 12:59

Rocky, I have sympathy with what you say, but it doesn't seem fair to prevent 30% of the owners having 30% of the votes. What I am looking to achieve is a committee structured in line with ownership, i.e. if permanent residents account for 10% of owners, if there is a committee of ten, one resident sits on the committee, if SWB own 30% they have three committee members, if holiday home owners account for 40% they have four committee members and so on. I would hope that any danger of SWB monopolising things would be prevented by this, and I assume their contribution to the committee would reduce as they gradually sell properties. One of the dangers of the proposals of SWBOA is that this will not be enshrined in the M&As. I am fairly certain that most, if not all, the subscribers [who are permanent residents] will put themselves up for election, and many owners will know nothing other than names, and we will end up with a committee disproportionately representing "the permies". TBC

Arthur


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Message Posted:
02/12/2009 13:01

Rocky- I'm afraid I cannot comment on Ipswich Town, as I haven't read the sports pages in "Farmer's Weekly"

andy-f


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Message Posted:
02/12/2009 23:18

i notice the website of sweetwaterbay been slightly updated, the yellow rolling info bar on main page is displaying the two awards the site won , not much of an update i know but seeing it was june last that any other update was done its good news.



andy

Arthur


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Message Posted:
08/12/2009 19:14

Blimey it's gone quiet. I'm grateful for Andy F not giving me stick over the weekend results, but am I going to need the ouija board to get a response from SWBers.



BTW, Robbie [our dog] said it was very nice last weekend to see Sheila & Phil again, and meet Pat & Anne. At least that's what I think he said, his tail was wagging like mad.....................

andy-f


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Message Posted:
08/12/2009 19:28

arfur mate i was worried i would offend you if i started posting comments about your hopeless team getting a rite going over by the mighty man U.



how on earth can you pay to watch that bunch of losers?



anyway any news on the rival owners assc.?



we are looking forward to new year at the bay



lol . . . . andy

mint1955



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Posts: 988

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 03:14

Hi Arthur,

So much happening right now but just heard our log burner is in and the snagging is moving on a pace yippee.

Great meeting on saturday I agree. Robbie is a sweetie

Andy we are looking forward to meeting you all when we are over there.

17 sleeps

rocky


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Message Posted:
10/12/2009 10:41

why do you all go out when I am not there!! does that tell me something?

andy-f


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Message Posted:
10/12/2009 20:05

rocky why do you allways go out when we are not there?



sheila we are looking forward to meeting you also, only sixteen sleeps for us .

i have to say im realy looking forward to this break as the digital switchover in our area as made so much work its not real , im knackered !



maria e-mailed us today to say food and bear will be in fridge for our arival .



andy

scruff


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Posts: 1070

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 20:48

Arthur. I have just read your post dated 22/11. message 15, about that of Kibrissibel message 12.

"He" is actually a she & she knows a good deal more about the property situation here, than you will ever learn, in a lifetime. You obviously failed to do any homework before buying or making that rather rude & ill founded post. More lambs to the slaughter.

Hector


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Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 21:10

"maria e-mailed us today to say food and bear will be in fridge for our arival ."



Bit dangerous. Must be a bloody big fridge. Is it some sort of burglar deterrent?

andy-f


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Message Posted:
10/12/2009 22:50

mess 47 " food and a bear in fridge" ! i hope its a stuffed bear x x x





andy

Hector


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Message Posted:
10/12/2009 22:52

So thats where the Hofmeister bear went. Wonder if he still wears that pork pie hat? Could be his cousin, Polar bear.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 23:46

has anyone any news about the "bay inn"? like is it ready for a new years eve party and knees up ? i think ill ring mike or andy tomorow and find out.



marisa and kurt we look forward to seeing you lol



andy

rocky


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Message Posted:
11/12/2009 00:04

andy who will be bare in your fridge ordou mean grizzly bear

Arthur


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Message Posted:
11/12/2009 01:04

"Scruff" [msg46]- my message 15 was directed at "Elko 2" not "Kibrissibel". Unless the photo is very bad, Elko 2 is quite definitely a man. The questions were directed to Elko, not Kibrissibel. I suggest that before you lecture me, or anyone else on being rude, you actually read properly what was written.

Elko has not responded to the questions put.

I also think I'm entitled to see what actually transpires as to whether "the developer took residents to Court to stop them managing the site", or for other reasons.

scruff


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Message Posted:
11/12/2009 02:34

Arthur

It wouldn't have been clear to anyone, me included, that your questions were directed towards my good friend Ismet (Elko). Maybe that's why he didn't reply? I still maintain your remarks imply that Kibrissibel is not telling the truth.

sienna


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Message Posted:
11/12/2009 07:09

scruff you are wasting your breath! or typing fingers

andy-f


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Message Posted:
11/12/2009 21:39

spoke with mike today , the bay inn will be up and running in days . its got an outside covered area which he says will be ready for xmas. also told me its a resteraunt from spring time so that cant be bad can it.



should be great over xmas as there are loads on site he said , also told me the mini market will be up and running for summer so another plus point

andy-f


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Message Posted:
13/12/2009 22:04

had a forwarded e-mail from marisa she received from the un ellected owners association , seems they are shit kicking about outsiders using the bar. well we voted for this when when rms did the survey , can you see it surving without outside trade ? NO is the answer.



i bet customers to joya on the crystal bay marina site are ninety five percent outsiders ! i rest my case

elko2



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Message Posted:
13/12/2009 23:18

Arthur (msg. 15)

When I write something or start a new thread I try to keep an eye on the following posts but I do not claim to read all the threads, especially the more boring ones that run into hundreds of posts and are even divided into 1, 2, ...10 and the latest 11 like this one. Obviously people have a great deal to say about SWB but to me its no different from other developers and I have no particular interest in this one.

It seems that you directed a question to me about a post that I wrote under another thread and naturally I missed it. Anyway, you can find the answer under the original thread with the latest update: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/26554.asp However I am not obliged to give chapter and verse everytime but suffice to say that I check my facts before I write anything. In this instance I have read the court papers and have been watching the developments with interest. For one thing, I cannot stand unfair treatment of buyers by strong developers.

ismet

negativenick


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 06:00

Paradise is like what the "Bounty" chocolate bar adverts is like....



unless you squint, i see no similarities.....

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/12/2009 10:19

re message 57 elko says he has no interest in SWB does this extend to his wife I dont know but it was rumoured she was involved in some action against SWB is this fact or fiction? I dont know do you?. If it is fact then Elko does have an interest. Message 58 a waste of space does not contribute anything perhaps its supposed to be funny if so new scriptwriter is needed. Message 56... Andy I personally think the bar is a great facility but I was never in favour of the location. For financial reasons SWB needs to be an open site with the related security issues. My view was that any facility for the general public should be roadisde meaning outsiders did not have access to all the facilities. Once they are in how can they be challenged as outsiders when they may be tenants.

elko2



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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 12:48

Rocky (msg. 59),

My wife has quite a few cases against SWB but in my view that does not make me automatically interested in this particular Developer. She has a few cases against other developers as well. I would consider as having an interest if I bought anything from them or if I tendered for anything within their scope. Anyway, it may be an "interest" within your definition but not mine.

ismet

rocky


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 14:44

Elko if you are interested in your wife then you have an interest..especially financially..I think we can park this point I cannot see any point continuing in continuing it further hopefully any confidential information re her cases are not shared

elko2



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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 19:59

Rocky,

You can rest assured that I will not share any confidential information with anybody unless I have the clear approval of the parties. As with this particular case, it was the Developer involved who referred to the litigation in mass e.mails in an attempt to frighten everybody who opposed their ways. My effort was to redress the balance. Even so I did not mention any names. Let us give it a rest but I will continue to update the relevant thread as to its outcome as a lesson to those who try to misuse the legal options.

ismet

andy-f


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 20:18

re the bar . . anyone who is against non owners or residents using it is living in cloud cuckoo land if they think they can force this, look at the korenium golf club its a members club with a twenty four hour manned gate, if you or anyone wants a drink or bite to eat you drive to the gate and he lets you in!



this is northern cyprus every buisiness needs passing trade , cant believe its even being mentioned.



good luck mike and see you in your posh bar in a week or so



andy

missymongrel


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 21:28

I have emailed Mike with our concerns - basically the general public using the facilities (pool, gym, etc) that we are paying for. It certainly isn't viable to run a bar/restaurant without getting passing trade from non-residents but there may be ways that RMS can control what they use.



I personally urge anyone with any concerns to contact Mike direct and let him know your thoughts. I have also suggested to Mike that he contacts everyone to perhaps ask for owners' suggestions and clarify his own thoughts on this so that we're all kept in the picture and we're not just getting one side of the story from emails that could be biased for whatever reason.



Marisa

jac k


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 22:56

I agree Marisa. I have emailed Mike with my concerns - I too raised concerns quite some time ago (like Rocky) about the location of the bar and suggested it be located at the site occupied by the offices.... to me it made a much better business prospect whilst satisfying security concerns..... I dont object to a bar and restaurant persay but I do object to an open site and free use of amenities that we are paying for.... Once again the lack of information seems to cause friction and it does appear that only some people are privvy to what is actually going on.... sadly I dont seem to be in the loop..... I hope Mike responds to everyone and whilst you might not like the newly appointed Res Assoc (Im not aware of any opposing R.A.) it seems to be the only body who gives me information at all..... ALL owners should be consulted about ALL aspects and should feel confident that their views are being heard..... Jac x Ps Merry Xmas, hope you all have a lovely time xxxxx

rocky


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 23:34

andy the golf club has a manned gate we dont..

andy-f


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Message Posted:
14/12/2009 23:41

rocky i dont give a shit but i know something everyone who asks about our site asks if it has a bar / resteraunt and im glad to be able to say "yes it does" but if passing trade was denied it would go under before it started ( to the joy of few). .



im on mikes side like or lump it

rocky


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Message Posted:
15/12/2009 00:39

Andy I am not on anyones side, I was just stating that I maintain my original view that a bar would have been better sitauted roadside...this would have satified everyones needs, Mikes, owners and residents and outsiders. The bar has been well fitted out and I like the design....perhaps it is not too late to relocate it and utilise the exisitng room as a meeting point with dvd,cd and reading library? For those who have not been involved in a complex before I can understand that they have not seen the problems experienced in opening a gated lhigh quality complex to the public. I do understand that even opening it to outsiders may not guarantee financial viability.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 00:07

If something was to be done about siting the bar elsewhere, this should have been addressed months ago. To be honest, I can't see the units at the roadside could be attractive enough. Whether you're for or against it, I think we've got it where it is. I think it is important that there are signs clearly pointing out that the pools, gym etc are for the use of owners only. You cannot in all reasonableness prevent customers using the toilets, but there should be some contribution to the associated costs so that owners aren't paying for visitors use of water etc. If there is widespread abuse [from visitors to the bar] using the pool etc, it must be for RMS as management, as well as owners of the bar, to deal with it.

Given where we are, I think we should "wait & see"- if there are problems with visitors to the bar, then these clearly will need to be addressed. Until then, I'll be in the bar taking constant abuse from Andy about my footie teams performance [or lack of].

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 14:07

we have no choice but to wait and see as you say Arthur. I hope all those going out for christmas and new year have a great time.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 14:10

Arthur on the roadside upstairs could have been great with a panoramic view of the development and a sea view. The offices could then have been where the bar is or possible in the unsold one bedder we could buy it and rent it to RMS...

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 19:21

rocky the bar is in the right place next to the pool area , in high summer it will be great chilling out with a beer under cover while seeing all thats going on in bikinis.



plus its just round corner from ours so not to far to stagger home !



andy

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 19:29

cant wait to see you in your Speedos in the summer while relaxing in your bar with a cool Efes love Sienna

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 21:57

i think itv should scap benidorm and make series about sweetwaterbay , it sure would be funny



lol andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 22:08

Andy, you used to be popular in your swimming gear around the pool, that is, until the "S" came off your Speedo trunks..................

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 22:31

very funny you two , ive said before im a nudist and no one believed me . i wasnt going to parade round the pool naked only the beach but seeing you two are takin the p--s out me speedos ill leave them at home !





you have been warned x x x

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 19:33

Hey baywatchers have you seen the thread about Tatlisu family losing everything in fire if this is genuine can we help. If RMS (Mike) or anyone who is going out at xmas (if this is a genuine case) lets club together to help I will happily donate.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 22:34

rocky ive not seen it ? where is the story?

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 22:52

Andy its on this forum the last post 2246 NC time

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 22:58

thats awfull , seems people are organising money and blankets ,if they sort acollection point out we will donate



andy

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 23:43

just noticed photos of edith with president talat at the rocks hotel been added to the SWB website

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 00:35

Well it looks like we will make it now BA have been to court! So back to organisn our stuf and its only 10 sleeps

Milou


Joined: 15/10/2007
Posts: 425

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 12:32

Re the fire



All donations can be made to the Mayor at Tatlisu Belidiyese - when you get to the village just ask anyone where the office is.

regards

milou

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 12:38

Hi everyone



Looking forward to seeing all of those who are going out to SWB for New Year.



See you in a few days.



Andy, have a good birthday we'll have a few scoops to celebrate when we get there!



Marisa & Kurt xx

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 15:53

thank you marisa , yes im thirty one on x-mas day !



i dont know if you and kurt have heard but ive come off a ladder at work falling eighteen feet , i have had stiches in my right knee and my left arm is badly bruised and both hands are weak but no bones were broken. nearly as bad as kurt walking thro our patio door july last!



what day do you land? we land boxing day.



see ya soooon andy

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 21:08

See you soon Marisa Kurt Andy and Sue. Just had an email from others just arrived and everything is looking good. I have a birthday tomorrow so lots of reasons to celebrate. Entertainment isset up for New Years Eve and the bar is fab.

SHeila

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
22/12/2009 23:28

hi sheila we cant wait , i need a good rest after whats happend to me. entertainment is set up for new years eve , i bet its kareoke?



andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 12:58

Andy [msg 85]- why didn't you wear your spiderman outfit, you'd have been okay. Get better, and have a good Christmas.

P.S. have a drink for me in the Jules Rimet [aka The Bay Inn]

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
25/12/2009 11:03

Happy Christmas to all at SWB. Hugs to all the wonderful people we have met and our best wishes to everyone we haven't.

Sheila&Phil C41

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
25/12/2009 14:03

i all birthday boy andy here, all the best to all SWB owners staff . ive just returned from chorley general were a very nice nurse removed my stitches in my right knee, so its all systems go SWB here we come ! see you all soon and all the best



andy susan and alex

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
28/12/2009 15:33

Hi All, Here at SWB all is well and the Bay Inn is open every evening except Sundays (sundays at the moment unless a less popular night is chosen to close instead). It looks fab as does the site.

See you later for a drink either virtual or the real thing

Best wishes Sheila&Phil

lobylud


Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
29/12/2009 15:19

Happy new year to everybody.

Have a great time out there.

Best wishes,

John, Maggie and family.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
29/12/2009 18:24

hi all , i cant beleive im sat here in our living room at sweetwaterbay and im on the forum! the wonders of thechnology eh. as sheila said alls well and mikes bar is great, hes just had a patio heater delivered today.



andy

samblaney1985


Joined: 10/09/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
29/12/2009 18:51

hi all!!!! i wanted to come on here to wish everyone a lovely Christmas but my computer at home has packed in!!! had to wait until i come back to the dreaded office!!! Andy happy belated bday!!! im so jelous of everyone out at SWB....he he!! what is the weather like now ? ?



xx

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 19:31

thanks sam, weather been lovely today . me susan, alex ,kurt and marisa been to karpaz and then to famagusta temp 19c tomorrow forcast 21c and sunny , better than the UK !



andy

lobylud


Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
03/01/2010 14:23

Well, who's going to be the first to tell us all what staying on Sweetwater Bay and North Cyprus was like over Christmas and New Year ?

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
03/01/2010 14:52

hi john i must be quick as im off to pub to watch man utd batter leeds , was great and our site is fabulous. new years eve at mikes bar the bay inn was wonderfull, live music and everyone singing and dancing and merry ! we didnt want to go home , marisa and kurt loved it so much they changed their flight back to germany to next week ! lucky sods.

we cant wait to go back its a great place.



andy

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
03/01/2010 16:50

The weather was good while we were there over the New Year week with daily sun so lots of living outside but you do need a jumper in the evenings. No electric blanket for us but we found we didnt need it at all the reverse air con does the trick if you need an instant burst but our log burner was absolouteky fab and we spent evenings in curled up on the sofas.

Immersion heater used as no hot solar water to speak of but we got into the habit of remembering to turn it on when needed.

Thank you to all we met for the good times we had and I hope Marisa your head was ok after New Years Eve. As always far to short a visit so much rushing around at the last minute to get away so we missed saying our goodbyes to some so apologies.

We met visitors from Seaterra on New Years Eve who were very impressed with the site and the bar. Loads of opportunities to meet with other SWBayers and its great how friendly and helpful everyone is.

Cant wait to meet more of you in 2010

Sheila& Phil

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
03/01/2010 16:58

Tough luck Andy ... Couldn't batter the fish you catch .. Lost 1.0 ..

How long are you here for .. Will we see you ..

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
03/01/2010 17:00

Andy .. Reading your post again you must be home .. See you next time ..

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
03/01/2010 18:30

Andy,

Hoped you enjoyed the game HA HA!! Hope you had a good holiday catch any fish????

harita


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 1343

Message Posted:
04/01/2010 14:21

BTTT - Where's andy-f .. Mickey Mouse Cup next .. Prediction Man City v Rovers final (I wish)

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
04/01/2010 23:21

hi harry hope you and rita are well , was only over for a week we will call on you in may i promise. i needed a rest after my near death experience so i lay on a sun lounger most of time ! anyway all the best.

steve ( blackpoolfan) i fished gectickale res ( the one i took you to in middle of nowhere) i only did three hours as it started to piss down , i didnt have a bite but saw a lot of big fish crash in margins on far bank from were i fished and there was at least ten cormorants on it so it must hold a few fish?

when you out next steve ? we are out half term in may , if you are out let us no and we will have a chuck .



andy

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 01:33

hey andy im just booking for May half term didjew get my email? we certainly need internet when we are out

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 03:07

andy f,

Hi mate good chance of being out may half term with the family, would certainly be up for a day or two and a few beers will stay in touch. Keep living the dream my friend have a great 2010 regards to you and your family.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 12:18

steve thanks and look forward to seeing again.

rocky i dont recall a e-mail of you for a while ? please send it again, i cant e-mail you till you e-mail me new computer and ive lost nearly every persons address



andy

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 12:19

sorry same address andyareial@blueyonder.co.uk

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 12:21

splet the the bloody thing wrong !



andyaerial@blueyonder.co.uk

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 14:44

OK Andy we have email contact again thanx 4 the internet advice. Well its the 5th January here in Somerset and it is the first we have seen of snow looks like a covering today. Although the weather has been frosty no flakes until today.Now looking forward to some sun in Florida in March (some weeks available chaps and chappesses) NC in May and again July so may bump into one or two of you. If you are unlucky!!!

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 16:43

re the snow , here in wigan everything shut and ground to halt ! never seen snow like this scince i was a nipper, when will it stop? we usualy miss most of the bad snow as it normaly comes east to west and the west pennine mountains stop it but its come straight north to south and its BAD!



should have stayed at SWB with marisa and kurt



andy

ronaldo


Joined: 14/11/2007
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 21:10

Hi Andy

So glad you had a good time at SWB Here is my email address. Please send me the pictures of you and your family with El presidente Talat. orrellwaterpark@hotmail.co.uk .

Best Regards Ron(aldo)

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 21:29

hi ron i havent had them deveoped yet , not been able to get to tescos in hindley.



if anyone wondering what ronnies on about ( president talat) me susan and alex bumped into him and his wife in a small village , he was with his presidetial guards and so on , we had our photos took with him.



andy

kenny b


Joined: 12/09/2008
Posts: 211

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 02:26

Hi Andy

Following your meting with el presidente can we assume that Ferguson Heights at SWB.

Could be renamed Talat Heights ?

Or even Presidential Palace SWB ?

Or even Castle Talat SWB ?

Keep posting

Keep smiling

Kenny

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 13:54

hi kenny how about renaming 133gl " the presidents peg" !

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 03:44

We are so missing SWB it seems the bar is popular with lots of get togethers. Big outing tonight for all the people on site to the Joya.



Roll on our next trip

Sheila&Phil

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 18:35

hi sheila and thanks for the e-mail. we cant wait to go back too, we have booked for may half term and we are in process of booking for three weeks in july / august.



it was a great night at the bay inn , i have loads of photos of everyone who was there.



andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 02:20

Going out to SWB on 27th March with my Son- have a feeling we will keep The Bay Inn going.



Andy- can't feel happy about my team being [in the end] well beaten by Arsenal, but at least they weren't "battered".



Look forward to the Tuesday pool nights in Bellapais.

samblaney1985


Joined: 10/09/2008
Posts: 159

Message Posted:
11/01/2010 10:24

morning all, i have just seen the pics of the bar on snapfish and im even more excited to get back out there, its so nice, i knew it would be but im so impressed, well done to mike and co!! looks like a lovely hideout from the sun ; )



see you soon hopefully

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
11/01/2010 10:31

Chairs outside are lovely and for those chillier nights there is a patio heater. The coffee machine should be there by now as well. It really is a fantastic space and we are already counting down until next visit.

Sheila&Phil

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
11/01/2010 18:43

well said sheila&phill , we wish we had stayed another week , alex no school and me no work due to the big freeze after we got home.



anyway cant wait till may our next visit.



arfur re the football , you think your teams strugling ! we are crap and i mean crap , take rooney out of our side and we would be mid table.



andy

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 00:25

Hi Guys



I've uploaded the photos from New Year's Eve on Snapfish - enjoy!



What a holiday - thx Andy, Sue and Alex - we had some adventures and lots of fun didn't we?!!!



Thx Lynn and Alan for opening the Murrell bar and keeping us entertained until 6am - and thx Connie for introducing me to Brandy Sours - or is that Sandy Browers!!!!



SWB site and the Bay Inn are brilliant however it's the people that make it - absolutely awesome!



Can't wait to get back out there. I will upload some more photos of our time out there a bit later this week.



Marisa

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 01:39

Wow fantastic photos thanks Marisa.

xx

lindamc


Joined: 28/12/2008
Posts: 14

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 06:31

would you email me the info on the switch also, i dont know how many times i've switched on the immerser and forgotten all about it , cause we only use it in the winter months !!!!!!!! thanks

lindamc


Joined: 28/12/2008
Posts: 14

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 06:35

would you email me the info on the switch also, i dont know how many times i've switched on the immerser and forgotten all about it , cause we only use it in the winter months !!!!!!!! thanks

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 09:41

Rocky we would be interesrted in the website for the switch to replace the on off immersion switch as we kept forgetting to turn it of.

Mind you remembering to turn it on was also a challenge!!



Sheila&Phil

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 10:12

Andy, you will note I kept a discreet silence on the football. The Hammers tried hard, but were finally outclassed by Arsenal. I agree about Man U, there are some who don't try. Rooney always gives 100%.



I was disappointed to see the New Year's Eve photos and not see you in your spiderman outfit.



How are you "Northern Softies" coping with a little bit of snow?? !!!

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 14:30

reply to 125- I have emailed you the site where I found them although I have not checked the site recently will have to get one b4 my visit..

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
12/01/2010 20:15

thanks marisa . we had a fab time and the adventure to the karpaz was wonderfull, have you sorted flights for may /june?



has susan or alex told you about us meeting president talat and his wife on way to airport?



andy

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 11:44

Thanks for the link for the timer thing Rocky they look good and as you say cheap and easy to fit. I am sitting here watching the snow falling just wishing I could be back, so I am daydreaming walking around the site and I may pop into the The Bay Inn for a chat .........

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 12:51

why isnt the new thread re SWB Villa for sale on this forum...what is going on?

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 19:53

Andy,



No Sue hasn't mentioned President Talat - are you pulling our leg or are you for real? Or is "President Talat" a pseudonym (or however it's spelt) for someone else? If it was Talat, what was he doing at Larnaca? Give us all the gen ...



I haven't booked the flights yet because Kurt's back in the UK for yet another "dinner night"; when he gets back next week, I will get him to see if he can get the time off.



Still trying to get the photos on facebook - it's a nightmare! They're now on snapfish though - not of our trip to the Karpaz - they will hopefully go on over the next few days!!!



Take care,



M xx

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 20:47

marisa , when the taxi picked us up saturday at midday he went over the mountain and headed south to the pyla crossing , about ten miles from here the taxi driver said " o look mr president" . at a small roadside fruit and veg stall was mr talat and his enteraige three black mercs parked at the front of the stall and about ten armed body guards all in black suites and dark sunglases, i said can we meet him ? taxi driver pulled up and asked this question in turkish came reply " come", me susan and alex had our photos took with him and his wife , the presidential photographer took some with his camera and two with ours, we now have a framed picture in our living room of the fairhurst and the talats!



andy

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 21:03

rock , re swb villa for sale , what you on about?

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 21:18

ave emailed you

kenny b


Joined: 12/09/2008
Posts: 211

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 21:51

Andy

Photo of Mr Talat on your living room wall is it at the side of Sir Alex or on a different wall.

Do you have a spare framed copy you could take it to your favourite chippy in beech hill and give it to the owner.I think you should tell everyone the story of getting barred out of the best chippy in Wigan.

Keep posting

Keep smiling

Kennyb

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 22:04

kenny mate your good laugh , i have been in that chippy scince the said upset but the soft greek sod couldnt recognise me as i had a big wooly hat on pulled well down ofcourse



andy

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 22:08

not recieved e-mail richard

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 22:24

Andy its bounced twice please email me then I can check your email address

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 22:53

andyaerial@blueyonder.co.uk ? same as allways , anyway ive e-mailed you .



andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 22:53

What's all this about Andy?



Have you been giving the Bubbles grief again?



Best chippy in Southend [or Westcliff to be more exact] is one run by a Turkish Cypriot. Servet's fish & chips are to die for.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 23:12

arfur this chippy is run by a fat greek cypriot , he heard me talking on phone to a freind while i was in que getting served that i was going to cyprus , just when he was putting S&V on he asked what part of the republic of cyprus was i going " oh im not going to that shit hole the south " i said !



the rest ill tell you in the bay inn



lol andy

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 23:26

andy there is either something wrong with your email address or mine although I ave sent you emails from two different machnes and two different addresses I have had all emails to you rejected even a reply to your own email to me

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 23:29

rocky the vergin server may be down , see what happens tomorrow.



andy

rocky


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Message Posted:
13/01/2010 23:30

andyaerial@blueyonder.co.uk

The recipient's mailbox is full and can't accept messages now. Microsoft Exchange will not try to redeliver this message for you. Please try resending this message later, or contact the recipient directly.

I see you found the clitoris then!!

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 23:36

my mail box is full ?

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 23:37

thats what is says can you get someone else to try to email you

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
13/01/2010 23:38

this is more like a chat line Andy are you on facebook?

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
14/01/2010 00:06

rocky im not on face book. ive just been on to india they said my server at vergin had 84 mails and needed deleting , i use outlook express and not the vergin media site , said it would be refreshed in ten to twelve hours.

andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
14/01/2010 00:28

Don't be silly Rocky- Andy's on "off my Facebook", particularly as he's just become a Reading fan!!

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
14/01/2010 00:58

Andy,



Only you can meet the Talats at a fruit and veg stand on the way to the airport!!!! And only you can get banned from a chip shop!!!!!!! You kept that one quiet!



Don't fancy the chippies in Wigan if the best one's run by a Greek!



;-)



M

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
14/01/2010 11:53

come on folks dont knock the Greeks....it does not achieve anything. I understand some like visiting NC anyway for the fantastic scenery and the good food, wine and women in the gambling and night clubs NC anyway...so they are intigrating

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
14/01/2010 18:22

I've got nothing against the Greeks - what I was getting at was the "best chippy in Wigan" being run by a Greek - surely not! Strictly tongue in cheek stuff

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
15/01/2010 00:15

One may have noticed the reappearance/resurrection of Zhivago.



Guess Rocky's been on the lighter fluid again...........................

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
15/01/2010 00:25

No arfa....Im drinking Sloe gin from my hedgerows, picked, pricked and shaken by hand

zhivago


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
15/01/2010 00:25

canzu mek sloe vodka rocksy

davidoff


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Posts: 438

Message Posted:
16/01/2010 22:30

Hi guys & gals,



Long time no speak to= soz for the late response but HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!



ALL THE BEST SWB LOOKS AMAZING- ENJOY!!!



Take care dav x

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
16/01/2010 22:37

Hi Davina, Happy New Year to you too. It is great and the bar is open as well. Hope you will be able to visit some time.

Sheila

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
17/01/2010 01:50

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&gid=6741911401#/group.php?gid=6741911401



Sweetwaterbay owners Facebook group please come and join in.

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
17/01/2010 20:56

Well done Sheila.



If you have a property on SWB and are on Facebook, please join as this group by following the link in Sheila's message - it is a great way to share information, photos, etc.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 02:01

Hi Marisa you are now an admin.



Facebook group for owners to get to know each other and we have had quite a few joining already.



http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&gid=6741911401#/group.php?gid=6741911401



I will need your unit number and email to verify owner staus with SWB

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
28/01/2010 15:35

Meet fellow owners and join in the discussions



http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&gid=6741911401#/group.php?gid=6741911401



Sweetwaterbay owners Facebook group

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
28/01/2010 19:00

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?moduleno=12726 This switch is also a timer as well as a boost switch and its battery backup in case of power cuts. Easily wired to the existing switch for the immersion. Or so I am reliably informed.

Sheila

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
28/01/2010 19:04

i cant get in says wrong password, anyway keep me informed . .



andy

mint1955



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Posts: 988

Message Posted:
28/01/2010 19:09

Hi Andy do you mean to the facebok group ? Parts of Facebook are down at the moment.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
28/01/2010 19:44

yes sheila i clicked on the link above

mint1955



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Posts: 988

Message Posted:
28/01/2010 20:38

No thats the cyprus44 facebook group you need to go to http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&gid=6741911401#/group.php?gid=6741911401

Tesoro


Joined: 08/12/2009
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
29/01/2010 14:28

Hi

I will shortly be visiting SWB with the intention of buying, Would love some feed back and advise.

especially with the climate as it is? Are you happy with the complex ?, does it live up to your

expectation?

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
29/01/2010 14:50

Tesoro



We're very happy with the overall site.



If you read through the many SWB threads, I think you will find that the vast majority are happy with the site, although there are a few with a dissenting view. All I would say is don't listen to either the pros or cons, visit SWB [as well as other sites as a comparison], and make up your own mind.



Arthur

Tesoro


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Posts: 30

Message Posted:
29/01/2010 15:30

Thanks Arthur

I will take your advise.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
29/01/2010 23:18

hi kathy , we have a three bedroom garden appartment at sweetwaterbay , we took a risk in buying here off plan in 07, have to say we are made up with it and , like arthur says go and see for your self you wont be disapointed



andy , susan and alex 133gl

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
30/01/2010 11:03

Kathy, SWB is a fab site it won awards this year. All the units are complete the site facilities are all up and running and this summer will see huge growth both in the gardens but also usage from owners. Our bar is now open which is a great meeting place. As Arthur says visit all the sites in the area you want to live in and make up your own mind but SWB is well worth a look I dont think you will be dissapointed. We have a villa and love every bit of it. In the meantime ask site specific questions on here and we will help all we can.

Sheila

Tesoro


Joined: 08/12/2009
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
31/01/2010 15:43

Hi

Thanks so much for your feedback .I'm getting really excited. We would like a sea view,very few

properties left to buy. Can you see the sea from most homes? We haven't made our minds up

what we want ,I think it will depend on location within the complex.



regards

Kathy

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
31/01/2010 17:50

Hi Kathy

Sweet water bay is a lovelly site . Only one problem with it though ! to many Man utd fans on there. Just my opinion.

Loui.

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
31/01/2010 17:53

loulou its a fact we are the best supported team in the world so its a law of averages lol



andy

loulouis


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Posts: 234

Message Posted:
31/01/2010 18:01

Andy I Must agree with you there. I just hope you have somewere to go and support your team next season. if not you could join us at the richest club in the Premier League.

loui

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
31/01/2010 18:04

Hi Kathy read all the SWB threads but bare in mind there are a lot of us that all know each other so ignore the "in jokes" Once you have bought join us on the facebook owners group there is a big following and we all help each other out.



There are a few of the smaller garden units that will not have sea views but when you go out just look at everything. If you are looking at buying a penthouse apartment or a villa you will have the roof terrace and the sea and mountain views are beautiful.

Ask away we will all help as much as we can.

Sheila

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
31/01/2010 22:22

Hi Kathy,



There are still some penthouse apartments left 103PR, 102PR (I think) and 101PL (again I think). All of these have fab sea views - we know we own 103PL!



Good luck with your purchase and hope to see you in the Bay Inn!



Marisa

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
31/01/2010 22:43

oh yes the bay inn is a fab place, also try " bar fairhurst" its where the fun loving people go!



eh marisa x x x

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
01/02/2010 15:00

The

Bay in is reccomended ! But I dont know about the bar fairhurst though.Were is it ?.

loui

Tesoro


Joined: 08/12/2009
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
01/02/2010 15:22

Hi

Thank you all. You sound like a great bunch. Not sure about all the Man United fans !!!!

Only joking my best pal is a true Red, also most of my family.

I'm a true Blue (Chelsea)

My husband is from London so I've been converted.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
02/02/2010 18:27

spoke with mike armstrong today ,owners asscocation will be up and running very soon just a few bits to sort out with the lawyers .



alls well at sweetwaterbay hes running the show at the moment as andy and co are here in the uk .



he told me another two units were sold last week so thats good



andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
03/02/2010 23:05

Rocky, we desperately need some postings from you or your alter ego Zhivago.



Suggest you sit at your computer with Chateau Diamond White!!!

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
03/02/2010 23:11

arfur i donk know about rocky hiding but you have been scarce scince your team started to struggle !



lol



andy

Arthur


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Posts: 687

Message Posted:
03/02/2010 23:44

Andy, very true. Been working my nuts off doing tax returns, mainly for people who decide it's "fun" to leave it to the last minute.



However, I have just seen that "the Red Sea Pedestrians" have beaten your nemesis Leeds United.



With a bit of luck, Jackie & I will be at SWB in May- when are you and [the lovely and long suffering] Susan going?

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
03/02/2010 23:52

Hello itsme..I have been watching but not posting am not drinking wine any more trying to save my body from being pickled...drinking an excellenet ginger wine non alcoholic I seme to remember its dorschester ginger, even better mixed 50/50 with whiskey but only one problem the vision becums blurred this ginger wine murst be alkoholick you just carnt rely on the lables kan u. Anyway John Terrys's wife must be lonely jewfink she would like a week at sweetwater bay, I am sure andy could show her the ropes and the other bits Ive herd she likes fishing

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
04/02/2010 00:06

Rocky- given up the meths then?



Have you tried lighter fluid?

Rhodesian


Joined: 29/06/2009
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 08:36

Re Message 181



You already have an Owner's Association, Andy-f, with a democratically elected Committee.



The Committee will be meeting this weekend, actually, so if anyone has any concerns, or would like another opportunity to join, email swboa@yahoo.co.uk .



Cheers.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 10:33

Surely an owners association should be for all owners not something run behind closed doors and on a private forum (where owners are locked out if they challenge something, which is what has happened to me for asking a very basic question to which I have still not had an answer ) Without the majority of owners signing up then how can this be democratic, in fact there are many owners that have not even been approached.



If this Assocciation is to be democratic then all owners should have been given the opportunity to vote the committee members into their posts to represent them. This has not happened.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 14:42

There are something like 140 units on the SWB site. I would like to ask how many owners have signed up to SWBOA ? If they have a majority of owners who have signed up [i.e. over 50% of units have joined], then I am happy for them to represent the views of owners, and if I disagree with the views of the committee then I shall express my views democratically through the Association.

However, I suspect that we have a self elected clique, which is somewhat confirmed by their steadfast refusal to answer questions- if there was nothing to hide, why wouldn't questions regarding the identity of the subscribers be answered?

Perhaps "the Committee" would like to answer the questions posed by Sheila in message 188, and indeed those posed by me, without evasion or equivocation. If they don't, their election has as much validity as the "unanimous" election/re-election of numerous dictators over the years.

Rhodesian


Joined: 29/06/2009
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 18:15

Re the last two messages.



First of all, EVERY owner was invited to join and everyone (including yourselves) had the choice. (This despite the fact the Mike tried to fob us off with only half the email addresses, while sending Minty a full list.) Had you joined, you would have had the opportunity to vote and even stand for election had you wanted to.



As for private forums, I understand that is what you are running yourselves.



As for you, Arthur, all your questions were answered fully. So stop carping. The truth is, YOU wanted to run it with YOUR rules, so now you stand on the sidelines and complain.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 18:38

Rhodesian, let's get to the TRUTH

1) did Shaun answer the repeated questions regarding the "subscribers" ? - no

2) was there an adequate answer regarding the specific exclusion in the M&As of the developer from voting, despite still owning nearly one third of the properties? - apart from "the committee may consider it", no

3) have you answered how many people have signed up to SWBOA? - no

4) have you answered Sheila's questions? -no



As for saying that I want to run it [the association], as I have said many times before, despite some people wanting me to put myself forward, no. I do not have the time to give which the role demands. It's a great shame that you and some other permanent residents have created such hostility, when you could have been a positive influence to the well running of the site; effectively the "eyes and ears" for non resident owners. Instead you have waged a campaign against the developer, and in particular the management company, without giving ... TBC

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 18:55

.. the latter [i.e. the management company] a chance to prove themselves. The developers are far from perfect [we still have snagging issues], but from looking at other sites and seeing other threads about problems with developers, they are far better than most.

As for your comments directed at me, basically if people don't sign up to what you want you try and intimidate them; there are no neutrals as far as you're concerned, if someone isn't for you, they are against you. There's a name psychologists use for this, "The Nazi Syndrome"

If you want to continue this correspondence, make it of value to all by specifically answering the questions put.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 20:10

keith re message 187 , ive never been asked to join so ive took the veiw i aint wanted which is fine . i will wait and see what happens with the other asscociation and make a desicion then.



but what worrys me is that i was told earlier in week by someone at rms that you have members on your commitee that are refusing to pay their maintainence fees point blank refusing and rms are going to name them shortly.



regards andy

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 20:17

Keith, I have not been given a full list of owners from Mike I have compiled a list from meeting people and other owners have passed their friends and neighbours email addresses as they wish to be in contact.



The Facebook group is open to all owners, as I posted the invite on here, and includes people from your group, so it is not exclusive.



Whilst I agree I was invited to join your group, once I had asked a couple of very basic questions I was sent a very condesending email from Shaun McCarthy in which he refused to answer them.



I have not refused to join and I did not ask to be taken off the mailing list but I no longer receive anything and was excluded from the private forum again not at my request. I am still awaiting answers to my questions.



In the interest of openess and honesty please would you confirm the names of the founder members and the number of units signed up to your group.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 20:26

Andy its not just you there are many that have not been invited Many more have let me know that they have requested to be taken of Keith and Moiras mailing list.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 21:44

no response over the so-called none payers yet ! mmmmmmmm interseting

homebird


Joined: 01/08/2008
Posts: 14

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 22:20

I don't think you will get an answer Andy, they are hardly likely to admit that there is one amongst them that won't pay. We shall wait for RMS to name and shame them.

Just reading Keith's e-mail above, there is such bitterness in his post, we certainly don't want to belong to such a group where you can not ask questions and expect to get a civil reply, and where he twist things without facts, Sheila clearly invited ALL owners to join the Facebook group, so had he wished to he could have joined.

Without the majority of owners joining his group, in my view, it will not be legit, and nothing that they vote on can be forced upon us, so I think we should all sit tight, just a little longer, until Yoav, completes the legal side for us, then we can truely set up an fully inclusive Residents assisciation, that will benefit all owners and a group that will work with RMS and not against them.

norths4me


Joined: 19/04/2007
Posts: 269

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 22:26

I don't think discussing this sort of thing on a public forum does the complex or anyone any good. Sheila if you have not done so already perhaps you could send or resend an invite to the owners of the "other association" to join the 40 of us on our Facebook group. We can then discuss things hopefully amicably and possibly avoid splitting the owners off the complex in to two groups.

The other option is for Keith to re invite owners to their private forum, as I was also given the boot from it and i had never even posted. Its time to stop bickering and work together for the common good of our amazing complex.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 22:31

well said anne we agree 100% with whats said in your post 197. anyway arnt the dreaded K and M selling up and moving to pastures new ?



ive been told a big cellebration party is being pre-organised for this very event !





lol andy

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 23:00

I have to say you SWB lot must be in line for an award as the most productive thread around as nobody gets really arsey and slags others off.

In respect of the non-payers i chair the site where i bought my apartment its easy to spot them that haven't paid those with a penthouse have notices identifying their apartment block and number the communal area remains untouched. Those with garden apartments are even easier you can't see them for the 6 foot weeds. Name and shame and if they have rented them out long term see if you can find out who the letting agent is and then go and nause them up. If all else fails use PLAN Z, put them on the rack and get Andy-f to tell them his fishing stories, trust me they will pay then. Good Luck................

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 23:11

thankyou steven x x x

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 23:30

arfur re mess 184 , we are out 29th may for a week , will we be having a efes or ten ? or do we miss again ? we are also out for three weeks in july into august





andy

Blackpoolfan


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Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
05/02/2010 23:57

Andy

I am out 5th august are you still in the TRNC???

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
06/02/2010

steve we leave on the 5th according to our maud , bad timing or what

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
06/02/2010 00:11

No worries, will have to sort a day out on the tip soon if you are up for it. Give us a shout on't theemail.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
06/02/2010 10:01

ok its happening again - slagging off...if you remember an old forum I forecast conflict especially between those that live on site and owners with pure vacation interests!!!!. We will get nowhere arguing in public as N4Me said. I know from experience that RA meetings can prove long and painful including insults. I too will wait for the other RA but feel the only way forward in one totally open RA. I feel there are too many unanswered questions on the existing RA and its constitution. We have the Cyprus problem and know we have the Sweetwater RA problem. This is probably as difficult to resolve unless people clearly cooperate. Arthur has made some good points on the RA and whilst they do not appear to be answered perhaps a few of us could meet May half term at SWB for an open chat re our combined objectives. Shaun are you up for it as a spokesman for the exisiting RA? plus say 3 to 4 of us doubtees with a one hour max an agenda and an efe or two. A large meeting would not work.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
06/02/2010 10:06

To all owners at SWB there is a SWB Facebook group for chat discussion and meeting other owners. Due to the nature of facebook it is set up so that not every person who stumbles across it can join up by themselves but it is open to all owners so just go here and request to join http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&gid=6741911401#/group.php?gid=6741911401

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
06/02/2010 10:56

Just to clarify for SWB Facebook I do not have email addresses for all owners so I cannot issue personal invites to everyone as has been suggested. Please pass the details to other owners or let me know on mint1955@blueyonder.co.uk and I can then add them.

Sheila

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
06/02/2010 16:57

N4ME, I don't disagree with you. However, I can't simply let comments by Keith which are patently not true stand without being challenged- if they aren't, they will be acknowledged as "the truth". The fact that I have posed specific questions which he [and others from SWBOA] fail to answer speaks volumes. If, as they claim, they have answered the points raised, it would not harm them to indulge me and inform others by repeating such answers.

In the past I've received rather silly threats of legal action from "Rhodesian"for "defamation" etc, which having read some of his postings and those of "Milou" makes those threats somewhat ironic.

I think most fair minded people want an association which works for the benefit of owners as a whole- we have a great site and I want it to be run for the common good, which I fear isn't necessarily the case with all.

On a lighter note, I think Andy F is wasted erecting satellite aerials, I think a stellar career in the diplomatic corps beckons !!

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
06/02/2010 23:59

arfur i call i spade a spade mate . we bought at SWB as a part time holliday home not as a permenant residence , as rocky warned ages ago we will encounter problems with people who reside here full time . i have no problems with this as i see it they are very fortunate to live full time in turkish cyprus , but i want at least to have a say in certain things that will effect the site ive chose to holliday in .



regards andy

missymongrel


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 84

Message Posted:
07/02/2010 16:16

Here, here Rocky - I think that a meeting needs to happen with Shaun and we need the facts from him up front - no hiding anything, that way we can move forward. I did request a meeting at New Year but he was away so it couldn't happen. Ideally, we need one RA but we need it to work for the good of SWB and for everyone who has bought there not just the "few". However, I don't believe it will work if we can't build the trust that it needs; perhaps we all need to bury the hatchet and start afresh.

mint1955



Joined: 30/05/2007
Posts: 988

Message Posted:
07/02/2010 19:27

Marisa, I thought by inviting the members of the group to the facebook list was an olive branch to a way forward - one which has ended on me being attacked personally.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
07/02/2010 20:28

maybe we need a cool head as an in between mediator to bring the two groups together ( a bit like the cyprus problem eh ! only we can call it the sweetwaterbay owners problem )



arfur as commented on my koffi annan/ banki moon skills in an earlier post so im putting my self up as cheif negotiator



regards andy

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
07/02/2010 21:28

Andy, you remind me more of Nanna Moon out of Eastenders, rather than Ban Ki-moon!! However, I have no doubt that your renowned diplomacy will come to the fore, as it did when you got banned from your local chip shop [owned by a GC], after you referred to the ROC as a "shitehole". Even the late Mo Mowlam would have had her work cut out.

On balance, and after careful consideration, I think you should concentrate your efforts on the written word. Long after we're brown bread, I'm sure that Andy Fairhurst will be referred to in reverential tones by academic circles as "The Bard of Wigan".

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
07/02/2010 21:29

I almost forgot- did you have a worm to interest the fish today?

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
07/02/2010 22:11