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Speedypaul


Joined: 28/03/2008
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Message Posted:
20/05/2008 21:12

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Just interested to know how many people are awaiting their PTP and how long it has taken. Mine was applied for in July 2006 and Ive made many calls to the Minisrty in the last year, all of which have resulted in "awaiting the military". During my resent trip to Cyprus, Marion Stokes said that its actually the police who do the site checks and the Military who do the personal checks. There was also some indication of friction between the two parties (Military and Ministry).



So I will start the bidiing at 21 months! Any interesting stories of Ministry or Military would also be appreciated.



hammer


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Message Posted:
20/05/2008 21:29

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december 2005 not received yet



pilgrim



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Message Posted:
20/05/2008 22:05

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sept o4 still waiting



mint1955



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Message Posted:
20/05/2008 22:13

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What happens if you dont get your permission to purchase and you have "purchased"?

Sheila&Phil



pilgrim



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20/05/2008 22:25

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purchased 4years ago, good question. if refused you can always transfer to a nominee, partner perhaps or family member.



cyprusishome


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21/05/2008 00:35

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Applied Feb 2005.



Accepted - Apr 2007.



So a wait of 27 months. Applying in July 2006 is not a problem for none acceptance to date.



Query may be for speedy, how close to existing or old military land are you. If you are too close you will be refused.



So my summary to speedypaul is you are asking the questions far too early as to why you have not received acceptance, you are still in the system.



Bradus


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21/05/2008 00:58

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What is so annoying is that some people find out after less than 2 years, whereas other people are kept waiting in excess of three or even 4 years. Being in the system is not very reassuring, as in reality you only have the word of someone on the other end of the phone with the same message about awaiting military response. Many people have found that they were not in the system as lawyers had not appied for the ptp or applications had been lost in the system. Waiting in limbo springs to mind.



Dixie Normus


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Message Posted:
21/05/2008 07:23

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Hi Folks, My Original application was in Jan 2004, unfortunatly lost by the Army so I was told, reapplied Dec 2007 so I'm looking forward to my permission about 2010.



D.N



Inca999


Joined: 25/11/2007
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21/05/2008 07:33

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Funny enough I called the Ministry only yesterday. They didn't take my name only PTP number. When they came back on the phone they called me by my name, so I was relieved that they did actually have my application there. I was also told waiting for Military. One thing did cross my mind was that if for some reason the Military refused my PTP would I then be refused a Residence permitt for the same whatever reason ?



TimothyCadman


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21/05/2008 08:33

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Inca999,



No, basically. As long as you have a contract to purchase you are safe to get your residency. No PTP will only stop you from receiving your Kocan (Title Deed).



Speedypaul


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21/05/2008 09:16

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Thankyou all for your responses. Dixie, Im sorry for your situation, very frustrating. I was not asked for police records by my solicitor when the PTP was applied for. This Ive now rectified. Im hopeful (maybe wrongly) this might help. Cyprusishome - I am in the system and given the responses your proberbly right.



The Wizard


Joined: 21/05/2008
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21/05/2008 12:57

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Yes its a tad ironic that those who have purchased near to military zones have been refused their permission to purchase for reasons of national security, yet that very same owner can rent the property out to any tinker, tailor ................

Spy!!



Surely they must realise by now that if we want a close look at any military installation in the world we can search on google earth and see more than we could from a third floor apartment block!?!



Pipie


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Message Posted:
22/05/2008 01:32

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applied 2005 granted and received Jan 2008



wynyardman



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Message Posted:
22/05/2008 07:34

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Payment of 1000 to advocate cleared bank account OCTober11 2006.

Further 250 in advocate fees 23rd March 2008.

Heard absolutely nothing! Sounds about average.

Living in hope.



wyn.



breezyboy


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Message Posted:
22/05/2008 11:48

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Applied June 2006

Received February 2008.

no seperate charge from solicitors.



Speedypaul


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22/05/2008 14:18

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Hi Breezyboy. I suspect Wynyardman's additional fee was for the Land Registry (please correct me if Im wrong). The Ministry issue the PTP so as you say there should not be any charge from the Advocate (although they do like to charge where possible). It seems like a lottery, but your post offers a little hope. Did you manage to obtain the Kocan without any difficulties?



rtddci


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Message Posted:
23/05/2008 15:23

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Applied Nov 2006. Refused permission April 2008. No reason given although we are near an army camp. Total nonsense as mentioned above and a complete breach of human rights.



breezyboy


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23/05/2008 15:45

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Hi Speedypaul.

Haven't got the Kocan yet. The solicitors reply was it could be another 18 months as the developer, Nevergreen, has to now subdivide the original into 8 and then put it through another wearysome government process.

I dont think that anyone charges 1000 for land registry. My solicitor wanted 350. I came over at the begining of April and did it myself for 44.5ytl and an early start to get my place in the then queue.



Speedypaul


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Message Posted:
23/05/2008 16:25

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Yes it all sounds very familiar. The electricity plan has had to be re-drawn for my site so even with the PTP, I cant complete also. Any way you look at it its a very long drawn out and complicated process. I hope the HBPG and others can force a change in the laws to make it a more acceptable process. Good luck with yours.



I suspect the 1000 was for the original sale of contract fees from the solicitor, I also had a very early start (530am) to gain the land registry. As a tight Yorkshire man I was not going to hand cash to the Advocates when not required.



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