Direct flights to TRNC

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 03:01

HELLO EVERYONE

Ii would like to find out how many people think its time for the british

goverment to lift santions on direct flights into the trnc , as i dont see what

it achieves ,i think 34 years is enough ,tony blair was in favour but unfortunately gordon brown does,nt seem too think so.

does anyone else think 34 years is long enough.



musin

Barrovian1



Joined: 16/11/2007
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 04:53

Yep, I do.



Bob

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 05:36

me too, 11 years of persecution justified the Turkish liberation

of their people. Britain should lift this embargo. This is not Zimbabwe!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 07:04

most definatley

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 07:12

Britain cannot act unilaterally on this. It would breach the Chicago convention. I do believe efforts should be made to remove embargoes, but it needs to be via the UN/EU.



I have little time for Gordon Brown (and luckily, he has little time left)

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 11:10

In the last 18 months We have signed 2 petitions for direct flights 1 sent to the Prime Ministers office and 1 sent to the aviation authorities in chicargo. I believe the 2nd one was organised by UK Turk It may be worth another go, as there are lots more people on this forum now who would sign.



The Butlers wife.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 11:37

If we had flights direct from the UK to Ercan, would there actually be a big enough demand to fill the planes?



On a return trip last year we stopped off at Dalaman. On both legs 1/3 of the plane was made up with those travelling from the UK to Dalaman and return. These people actaully helped to fill the plane and, in a way subsidised, my Ercan - UK return trip. Prices are high now compared with pounds-to-the-mile to travel the Atlantic. Would you be willing to pay more if the plane was only regualrly half full, or less, instead of prices being based on 80% full?

Aslan


Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 757

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 11:46

Has the TRNC Government submited Ercan as its international airport to the Aviation Autorities as apparently they forgot to do this quite important part of the application process for direct flights in the past.

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 14:11

Aslan - you are absolutely right on this. There was much discussion about this on some of the TRNC boards a while ago (I believe UKN Turk was pretty involved) and in fact, my husband contacted the relevant government authority about this and was told exactly that - unless it is registered as an 'International' airport, permisssion for direct flights would not be granted. If I remember corrently, there was a petition submitted which was signed by many people asking for direct flights and that was the explanation given.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 15:48

Ercan will never get recognised as an international airport as long as RoC and Greece have right of veto at UN and more importantly at the Chicago Convention.



There has got to be a will from all the other nations to tell these two countries to go forth.

ianwfs


Joined: 08/01/2008
Posts: 563

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 16:19

It's not so much that the RoC and Greece have the power of veto. Rather, the Chicago convention states that each state has the right to designate its own international airports. As we all know, the RoC is the recognised authority on behalf of the entire island, hence Ercan has not, and until the "recognition" problem has been sorted, will not be designated as an intenational airport.



The other point regarding direct flights is well made by TimothyCadman. As a former airline manager, I can tell you that neither Pegasus or KTHY could ever afford to fly direct to the UK. There's just too much revenue to lose on the Turkish sector.



Sure, there will be a token gesture with perhaps one or two non stop flights a week, but I cannot see the situation arising where all flights are non-stop without massive subsidies to cover the loss in revenue. An who will cover that? Turkey? The "new" Cyprus government. EU? Not much of a chance.



How about a radical rethink. Larnaca is greatly in need of redevelopment. Why not close that airport, and use the land it was built on as part of the settlement process. Redevelop Ercan and rename it Nicosia International. Build a link road to the southern motorway system. (there's already a road that goes in that direction from the airport complex. Cyprus would then have two airports. One with easy reach to the west coast resorts, and one with easy reach to the east and north coasts.



Who knows, it could happen!



Ian

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 16:21

What a brilliant idea Ian. Well done for coming up with that.



The Authorities, are you listening and reading?

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 16:28

Hi all,

In my opinion if there were direct flights to n.c. the planes would fill up.A lot of people dont like the hassle of sitting on a runway for 45 minutes and then taking off again.Or landing at Larnaca and then having to cross a border.I personally accept the fact that you have to do this as it is always worth it when you arrive in the north.



Alot of people still dont no that Northern Cyprus exists though and i feel that if the direct flight embargo were lifted that there would be a steady influx of new visitors to t.r.n.c. I hope not to many though or it would spoil the island,

Hope you all enjoy your week-ends,

Regards,

Paul.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 16:30

Great idea Ian,

Sounds a bit to easy for Cyprus though,

Paul.

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 17:43

Hi Ian,



What a wonderful idea, that could work for both sides. It just needs someone to point out the advantages of this to the powers that be.



The Butlers wife

Tatlisu4me


Joined: 26/01/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 19:50

If the troubles kicked off again the GC,s would end up with Larnaca airport land used for commercial use and only Pathos airport.



Cannot see it happening.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 21:56

I am 100% sure that Direct flights to Ercan is not against the Chicago Convention and I have looked at it very closely before I made this statement. The British Government has decided otherwise and I believe the matter is in court for final judgement. We have to wait for the outcome.

ismet

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 22:06

Elko,

Do you know how longwe will have to wait for the outcome of this particular court case,

Regards,

Paul.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 22:20

merhaba ismet abi.

do you believe that we will ever have direct flights from britain and if so

how far away are we ,1 year maybe 2 or are we as far away as 10 maybe 20

years.





eyi aksamlar

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 22:29

Musin,

Just a question my friend.I suppose its like saying how long is a piece of string,

Regards,

Paul.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 22:33

The re-opening of the existing Nicosia International Airport will IMHO come long before direct flights to Ercan/Tymbou, which even before the current economic crisis was never going to happen.

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 22:36

Ian,



Just a point, but I thought there was already 2 airports in the south. Is there not one in Paphos??



MC

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
29/06/2008 23:16

Musin,

As far as I know it has not been upfor a hearing yet. I would think it may take two years at most and I am confident that the High Court will decide on law away from political influences.

ismet