How long have you been waiting for your Permission to Purchase?

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 14:33

Hello,



Further to my other survey on "How many people have been refused PTP" I would like to try and gain an insight into how long purchasers have you been waiting for their PTP" and in respect of what type of Deed?



I know not all frequent this site but acknowledgements from those members who do gives a reasonable indication of the "waiting game" problem ... the first survey has had approx 1000 views todate!



Thank You for taking the time to read this. Please respond to lockerley@hotmail.com



Regards

John

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 14:47

Walkerscott,



Did you contact the British Embassy in Nicosia? I know many people are keeping them informed of what is happening?

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 14:50

Walkerscott, when you have evaluated what available data you have will you be publicly displaying your findings and if so where, I would be and I am sure many others would also be interested to view the results.



Paul

stilluvithere



Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 765

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 15:01

only 2 years, so far. It is in an in tray at the army office

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 15:14

Paul - will do... wait out ....



Suzie - no, but will, thanks for the tip!

Ailletoo


Joined: 24/01/2009
Posts: 1003

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 15:48

3.5 years... got it now. The wait didn't worry me, I knew it would come through eventually. What difference does it make?

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 15:56

Ailletoo,

You obviously haven't been reading the other threads about Kochans and PTP etc.

To answer your question, the difference that it makes is that until you have your PTP, you can't get your Kochan, and if you don't have your Kochan, then your property can be sold / auctioned from under your feet.

You need to get your PTP and then your Kochan as fast as possible, so that there is less time for anything 'nasty' to happen

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 15:57

3 years 1 month and still waiting.

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 16:36

Does it apply when the land is registered at the the kocan office and the stamp duty paid? there was no mortgage when i did that. It was clear.

jo7eph


Joined: 15/06/2008
Posts: 23

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 16:45

3 years 10 months and finaly got it this week. Naomi Mehmet said that although PTP had been issued some time ago they had only been notified very recently. I of course don't doubt their word for a second!

judyr


Joined: 07/07/2009
Posts: 956

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 16:59

I wonder how long it takes if the property is a resale as in my case. The Kocan had already been issued in the vendors name and all VAT etc paid.

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 17:26

Submitted my PTP in December 2002. Later found it hadn't been submitted by my advocate until April 2004. He claimed that the government had told them to hang on to them.

Still hadn't received it when I left in April 2008.

keyholekate


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 81

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 17:29

applied 6 years ago but solicitors lost the relevant papers so had to re apply. Now 4 years and our file is "With the military"

CarrieRBag



Joined: 23/12/2008
Posts: 1374

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 19:11

Our PTB was submitted in Feb 2008 and we have it now. We did go to the offices in Lefkosia to chase and it was in his tray! After that it took about 3 weeks to get to Girne Land Registry and now we have it. Next hurdle.... get the Kocan from the developer!!!!! Watch this space

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
11/07/2010 20:21

Our ptp took 2.1/2 years but we have been waiting since October2008 when we received them for our deeds. How long should this process take? How many other owners have had problems getting their deeds, after receving their ptp?





The butlers wife

Warbabies


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 165

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 06:26

My son's deeds were transferred on 30/09/2009, but he still hasn't received them because, apparently, they have to be re-written, by hand at the Land Registry office, and there is only one clerk to do this!! He did receive a piece of paper headed TAPU VE KADASTRO DAIRESI and was told that this is OK until his Deeds are ready. He is now about 920th on the list!

If anyone knows how to speed things up, please advise. We go in regularly to enquire, and always it's the shake of the head and try again in a few months!

CarrieRBag



Joined: 23/12/2008
Posts: 1374

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 08:42

If your developer will give you the deeds there is not set time. I was told when I went to the Land Registery, regarding the PTB, that now we have it the next step is to get solicitor (ha) and developer to sort out the transfer. Our developer keeps saying he wants to hand them over but actually getting them is another thing. WHEN we get them, I will post.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 10:07

Less than 1 year.

laptagal


Joined: 28/05/2008
Posts: 549

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 10:49

Applied for P2P Feb 2008 and recieved it April 2010.

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 13:22

Jock1

What did you do to get it that quick?

Mx

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 13:27

I got the number for the PtP, and i phoned up everyday.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 13:37

Just checked it was 14 month..

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 13:56

You gonna tell us the number?

Mx

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 18:07

Hi jock not very good at maths I make that 26 months Feb 2008 - April 2010 you must have drank a lot of effes to lose a whole year. lol.





The butlers wife

skybluesam


Joined: 24/12/2008
Posts: 447

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 18:18

Neighbours of mine (2) applied and were turned down due to (Military), I have mine by the way!. Ridiculous!

Nick

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 19:10

The butlers wife it was laptagal not jock that applied Feb 08 and received it in April 10, time you put the effes down )

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 19:39

Yes cooper, the cheek of it, im flabergasted !!!!

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 19:43

mixie, this was the number that was given to me ..0392 611 1127 now before you dial this number you MUST HAVE YOUR PERMISSION TO PURCHASE NUMBER.

Good luck.

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 19:48

Thanks I have that but do they speak english or should you get a Turkih friend to phone?

Mx

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 19:50

The lady i spoke to spoke English. not sure what a Turkih friend is...

cypgab


Joined: 09/01/2010
Posts: 338

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 19:57

quote: Further to my other survey on "How many people have been refused PTP" I would like to try and gain an insight into how long purchasers have you been waiting for their PTP" and in respect of what type of Deed?



Not sure what you mean by 'what type of deed'?



Bought in September 2004

PtP issued May 2007 (followed Marian contacting their office)

Kocani issued January 2008

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 19:59

jock1/Msg 30: 'not sure what a Turkih friend is... '



The joker that told you/us that 'PTP is merely a formality in TRNC!'

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/07/2010 20:02

....

Smity



Joined: 14/09/2009
Posts: 826

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 01:56

Bought our Plcae back in 2008 previous owners had already been given Kotchan. Had our Checks done, seeing Solicitor on the 27th when we are over, hopefully with some news on how we are progresing. Fingers crossed

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 11:51

Ours took 18 months, we did purchase Turkish title and it was a resale where the seller had a kochan in their name.

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 11:55

Blade,

Thank you. May I ask when this happened?

John

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 13:55

My apologies jock.



Efes, never touch the stuff. computer fatigue I think, must stop reading all these posts before the poor old brain blows altogether.





The butlers wife

wattys


Joined: 07/10/2008
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 17:26

I applied for mine in April 07 granted June 08.



Has Jock says keep on ringing the office after you get your PTP number.



Unfortunataly i can't remember the number but your solicitor should know it.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 18:21

Blade...msg 35



I too would be genuinely interested in your answer to walkerscott in msg 36.



Did you apply for PTP before 2006 ?



And also,when you say "turkish title", do you mean Pre-74 Turkish Title?



Thanks.

crofter


Joined: 16/12/2008
Posts: 1035

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 09:54

judyr.....we bought a resale and the Kocan was in the vendors name. It still took 3 years for the PTP to come through because all the same checks have to be done on the buyer.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 10:24

msg 37...No harm intended....

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 11:01

We applied in July/August 2005 for [genuine] pre '74 TT and had PTP refused.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 11:57

Bought 2003/04

PTP 3years, Kocan hopefully soon

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 13:19

cronos,

Yes, pre 1974 Turkish title. I have the details stored but I will dig it all out and come back to you on the exact date. I do remember that our ptp arrived on Christmas eve and we thought it was a nice christmas present.

Kochan followed in about Feb/March if I remember rightly.



My advice would to be just keep calling and visiting the office until they are so fed up with you they sort it out.

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 15:30

Applied April 2004 PTP granted November 2006 by which time there was a nice little mortgage attached. House auctioned by bank June 2010. Ho hum.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
14/07/2010 17:30

blade...thanks for the info



Don't go to too much trouble....I suspect that your PTP application was before 2006,and that's why you have been lucky enough to get PTP .



We weren't so lucky....chased it up for 4 years to discover that there is a covert policy in place not to grant PTP to foreigners on Pre-74 Turkish Title deeds !

Off course no-one will admit to this , but believe me it is the truth.......the HBPG will probably confirm this if you ask.



I'm glad that you got yours from earlier years......we voted with our feet and sold up.



We were not prepared to accept a system that allows you to buy and pay in full for a property but never "own".As you know,without PTP you cannot get title deeds in your name.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
16/07/2010 13:15

cronos, as promised.

Purchased house around April/May 2006.

PTP granted 24th December 2007. A day for celebration!

Kochan issued 28th March 2008.

Estate agent Unwins (no probs).

Lawyer Gurken and Gurken. ( no probs)

Genuine pre 74 Turkish title. Checked in the ROC.



I think that may prove your theory wrong? I truely don't believe that their is any covert policy in place.



If and when there is a solution in cyprus to the problem then ptp would be a thing of the past. I am sure they use to have the same/ similar system in the ROC but now they are in the E.U. thats all in the past.