permission to purchase

andy2b123


Joined: 21/12/2010
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 17:34

I have just recieved permission to purchase 5 years after applying. Getting no help from our solictor, we enquired and found were the office was .

Went one afternoon, the staff were very helpfull spoke good english and after finding our file sent us to another office on the floor above.

They again they were very helpfull and on finding our file, printed off a copy of one of the sheets and sent us back to the first office.

We were then taken to the managers office and were told every thing was OK , he would sign the final sheet of paper and send it off to the council of ministers. "you will recieve yor permisson to purchase in a few weeks time"



Well worth making the effort ourselfs.

MrsSnakes



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 1100

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 17:46

Andy2b123, what type of land was this for please, Pre 74 or exchange?

andy2b123


Joined: 21/12/2010
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 18:55

exchange land

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 18:59

Mrs Snakes....msg 2



I know you keep asking, but any PTP successes all seem to be Exchange and not Pre-74 don't they?



Good luck with your particular situation anyway.....maybe one day the TRNC govt will do the decent thing and honour their obligations !

MrsSnakes



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 1100

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:04

Thanks Cronus. I feel it is important that if you are announcing your PTP then please state what land it is on. It may give us some hope if someone got it on Pre 74. Until then, I pray............

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:10

Msg 28 says he was granted his PTP on Pre 74 land last Sept - http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/53313.asp Why dont you email him directly.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:13

Sorry i should have said he says he received his deeds last September.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:13

How about me granting permission to buy exchange land? Be about as lawful as that being given by the TRNC it seems to me.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:14

Cooper....he purchase way back in 2002.



The problems relating to Pre-74 deeds seem to relate to purchases made circa 2006 onwards.



Nice try...but if there WAS a good news story here I'd be the first to acknowledge it.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:17

Put it this way Hector i would rather be granted PTP and go on to receive deeds on exchange land then have bought on Pre 74 land and be refused PTP !!

cooper


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Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:21

I hear what your saying cronos but nether the less the land registry still wrote out his title deeds last September.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:23

cooper

That's fine but what internationally recognised legal status have the deeds on exchange land? I'm not trying to spark the old debate here. That's a waste of time. It's a complete no win situation for buying property on either exchange land or pre 74.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 19:35

I agree Hector "none" although when or if there is ever a solution to the Cyprus problem you would have thought that those that have been granted PTP, Kocan's for their property would be in a better position to take there case to the HCHR should the need arise.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 21:17

The ECHR has consistently ruled, that the legal owner of the house or land, is the person that held title deeds in 1974 prior to the invasion. Financial compensation has also always been given to the home owner.



Having PTP and Kocan never helped the Oram's during their journey through the many EU court cases attended and I would be very surprised if it helps anyone else! The ECHR views many current owners as illegal tenants.



We all know that the TRNC and Turkey will look after their own. Any agreement that works best for them will be the chosen one. Everyone else will be sold down the river.



I base this on their past history. Did the Orams get a new home? Have they acted on behalf of all those who have mortgages on their homes? Who are they supporting in the memorandum scams?



The only safe people are those whose land and homes have been settled through the IPC and as yet we are not told who these people actually are. Why not?

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 21:24

Hector said:

>>That's fine but what internationally recognised legal status have the deeds on exchange land? I'm not trying to spark the old debate here. That's a waste of time. It's a complete no win situation for buying property on either exchange land or pre 74.<<

Know what you mean about sparking debate but suffice to say someone I know very well indeed has a TC kocan for Pre-74 title as well as ownership certified at the RoC land registry. If one does one's homework and puts in a bit of legwork, it's possible to get sorted.

Denny


Joined: 09/12/2010
Posts: 261

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 21:29

Cooper wrote:

>>you would have thought that those that have been granted PTP, Kocan's for their property would be in a better position to take there case to the HCHR should the need arise.<<

Do you think the ECHR would entertain a foreigner occupying Greek Cypriot property they consider was seized illegally and sold as a criminal act? Especially since the GCs themselves are seeking recourse at the ECHR as the legal owners?

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 21:38

"Know what you mean about sparking debate but suffice to say someone I know very well indeed has a TC kocan for Pre-74 title as well as ownership certified at the RoC land registry. If one does one's homework and puts in a bit of legwork, it's possible to get sorted."



I'm sure there are a few who have their kocan on pre 74 property. 'Few' being the operative word. We all thought we'd done our homework and put in a 'bit of legwork'. How was I (and many others) supposed to know that there was a secret TRNC policy of not granting PTP on pre 74 title?

PTP's were buried under bureaucracy for years and a refusal to say why they were eventually refused to avoid the policy becoming public knowledge

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 21:48

Hector.....how would the world judge the TRNC if it became common knowledge that the TRNC government will routinely hand out deeds on "disputed" land, but will not do the same on it's own Pre-74 land,even though it allows a sale to take place and monies to be paid in full ?

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 21:56

"Hector.....how would the world judge the TRNC if it became common knowledge that the TRNC government will routinely hand out deeds on "disputed" land, but will not do the same on it's own Pre-74 land,even though it allows a sale to take place and monies to be paid in full ? "



I thought it was common knowledge.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
14/01/2011 22:01

Hector....msg 19



It might be common knowledge on here....but not to the wider world.



Let's face it, most Brits who've never been to Cyprus think of it in terms of Rhodes, Crete, Corfu etc....just another Greek island !!!!!