GC's to "sue British Government"

Welldigger



Joined: 16/06/2010
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 10:59

I heard on the radio today that GCs were to sue the bristish government over some kind of wrong doing when Britain was the "owner" of Cyprus. I can't find anything on the web but I heard that it's in one of the newspapers here in the UK. I feel they may be jumping on the "Mau Mau" band wagon.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 11:55

msge 1



You are right. Over 100 EOKA fighters are going after the British government. The leader of the EOKA veterans party says he wants justice to be done.



Full article in the Times

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
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Message Posted:
13/04/2011 11:58

How many Brits did EOKA murder?

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
13/04/2011 11:58

Follows on from this previous thread



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/60460.asp

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
13/04/2011 11:59

msge 3



Newscoop



They are suing over being tortured

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
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Message Posted:
13/04/2011 12:08

How about TC suing the post 63 RoC government for failing in its duty of care to protect them as citizens ? Surely governments have such a duty of care to its citizens ? Surely the RoC government post 63 failed to adequately protect TC from GC ethnic violence of the time ?

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 12:11

msge 6



Get yourself a no win, no fee lawyer and go for it Erolz. With your extensive knowledge of Cyprus affairs you could win it on your own

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 12:27

ps Erolz



I forgot to mention that suing for torture is in vogue at the moment. Lawyers have tasted blood over Guantanemo bay, a governments duty of care is not chic, but it could be someday.

brother



Joined: 29/01/2010
Posts: 446

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 12:35

Re. Msg. 2: "...leader of the EOKA veterans party says he wants justice to be done"



Yep, they have the moral high ground - they know the "justice" of shooting unarmed, off-duty, British soldiers, in the back, right in front of their young children.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 12:59

The worlds gone mad! Stop the world I want to get off!

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 13:09

msge 10



I know what you mean Bill. You could argue that there is a cleansing process going on, people holding up their hand for past misdemeanour's, which the world would benefit from (meaning these events are unlikely to happen again), however I would be more certain that this was the case, if the all parties admitted their guilt but this is not happening.

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 13:22

This is a whole can of worms which I intend keeping out of, as I have already been slated by some members of this forum for not forgetting (or forgiving) the treatment the cruel\barbarian japs inflicted on our troops\citizens (which include women and children) during the last war.

Michael

vadiev


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Posts: 204

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 16:38

What about all us married guys, years and years of torture !!!

ilovecyprus


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Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 16:44

blimey vadiev, that will definately break the bank

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
13/04/2011 18:42

What about the forum admin. Who can we sue? ) ) )

Zoots


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Posts: 669

Message Posted:
13/04/2011 23:39

Let's be realistic. Any colonial power employing soldiers who don't behave professionally or by the rules can expect to face the music somewhere down the line.

After all, the British police can't go around torturing or murdering suspects without themselves facing the law. They tried it against the IRA and ended up targeting and brutalising innocent people through their own incompetence.

Whereas insurgents fighting to clear their country of foreign occupiers are only doing what's expected of them. All's fair in love and war. It's what you sign up for.

Roley


Joined: 14/02/2011
Posts: 63

Message Posted:
14/04/2011 00:41

Msg16:Before responding to your message i checked on your profile.Which gave me no indication of why you should compose such a message.Assuming that you were born in 1970 you need to understand the situation that many British Army (Teen-agers doing National Service) found themselves in between 1956-1959.I was a professional in the British Army as a teenager and later years and my experience of forces personel in Cyprus during the EOKA campaign was that they acted professionally and by the rules.How would you react to your wife and daughter(soon to be married) being shot in the back by a so called terrorist (i say murderer) in Famaguster whilst shopping.Was the murderer behaving professionally?I think not!!!This is only one of many instances that happened and resulted in a strong reaction by British Troops.Army records will show this and many attrocieties.But fortunately you with your "Anti Loyal British Opinion" will not be able to post your missguided opinion for 100 years.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
14/04/2011 00:56

Well I think it is about time that some of the oldies got together to sue the German Government for ruined childhoods! How much should they get by way of financial compensation? a few million pounds each? would do my husband nicely - he could have all his bits (hips! etc) replaced with that.

and if that sounds barmy, then so is this move by the G.c's. Mind you, what about some British families suing the GC's for the young men lost in the fighting. the Memorial in Kyrenia stands as evidence of some of the rotten deeds. What about the two young soldiers who were shot in the back whilst in a shop at Famagusta, robbing two families of their sons? and that is just ONE story to add to roley's.

Makes me so angry.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
14/04/2011 09:37

Zoots the RoC government of the 60's was running bands of illegal ethnic based militas out of the Interior Ministry. These armed bands of irrelgulars were murdering innocent civilians and neither they or those that set them up and ran them ever faced any accountability for these actions. Should this government expect to face the music somewhere down the line I wonder ?

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
14/04/2011 09:48

Was thinking of suing the Japs for the atrocities they carried out against my old grandpapy with the bamboo, but every time I get all misty eyed I thing back to Enola Gay and call it quits.

Michael

brother



Joined: 29/01/2010
Posts: 446

Message Posted:
14/04/2011 13:19

Msg.17 puts my perspective across without me needing to add to it. As for Msg.16, well, it is yet another fascinating display of the expertise in presenting a righteous position. It is impossible to understand how the EOKA movement can demand justice whilst being responsible for such cowardly and murderous acts.

brother



Joined: 29/01/2010
Posts: 446

Message Posted:
14/04/2011 16:12

Roley: Msg.17 - If you were indeed in the British forces then I would be interested to ask a few questions about your time in Cyprus - happy to exchange the discrete email addresses via forum admin if you are agreeable.

Roley


Joined: 14/02/2011
Posts: 63

Message Posted:
14/04/2011 20:31

Brother: Msg 22-Served with pride in HM Forces and would be happy to exchange discreet email addresses via forum admin.The proceedure i am not aware of !!!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
14/04/2011 20:48

Brother and Roley

If you both e-mail me then I will be more than happy to pass on contact details from you both to each other.



My e-mail address should be visible in my profile.

AJ

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
15/04/2011 00:28

Service in HM Forces and being realistic about how insurgencies from 50-plus years ago were handled are not mutually exclusive.

Well, that's what I used to tell my men.

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
15/04/2011 00:54

Never to be forgotten.



http://www.britishcyprusmemorial.org/

Bishop


Joined: 14/04/2011
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
15/04/2011 08:20

Less you forget





http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/index.html

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
15/04/2011 08:35

No 1 Doyen - what about the forum members having their posts unfairly closed - bans for invalid e mails???

the hurt, the trauma, the injustice, I'm just off to consult with Akan Kursat.



Seriously, what do these clowns think they are doing - sold off all their land so now need a cash injection,' I know say Yiannas, we'll sue the British, they are stupid, they'll pay' good idea says Stelios. Are they, by suing identifying themselves as members of EOKA and in doing so laying themselves open to counter claims by some of their British victims?? Just a thought.