Does it matter who the poster zoots is ?

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 07:02

If you have no interest in this subject then please do ignore this thread.



For those that do have an interest in it, I have written a post on the subject. I am posting offsite, partly because it is long and partly because it means that if you do click on the link to my post it means you understand that the post is long and what the subject is and hopefully we can reduce any 'whats the point of this thread' discussions to a minimum as a result.



Anyway for those intrested it can be found here



http://www.visionmatters.co.uk/cyprus/matter.htm

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 07:06

I could have summed it up much easily than that 'He's a D..k Head'

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 07:33

If he is Pte Pike or Eric Seans or Campbell Thomas he is banned... so he can't put his 'distortions' across under those aliases.

I don't think he should have been banned. Banning him only makes him try harder...

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 09:12

Groucho wrote : "Banning him only makes him try harder..."

We have such a member who registers almost on a daily basis and gets banned with same frequency. The alternative is to let people ignore the rules. Any suggestions on alternatives?

ismet

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 09:30

erolz & zoots

Obviously have very bad opinions about each other. Instead of airing them on C44 why don't they air their grievances about each other too each other on e-mails and stop boring the rest of use with their vitriol ? They are hijacking posts by hurling abuse at each other and barely touching on the original posts. IMHO

jimmyriddle


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 10:03

1. Apply the rules equall without favor or predudice in a consitant way to all members would be a start!



2. Remove''banned'' members details from the forum, if they are banned from posting what point is there in retaining their photo and other details in the memberlist ?



3. Since admin count the ip address as the member not the person using the ip address put it in the rules only 1 ip addresss per user, Iam aware of several members at one place of work eho were all banned because the ip address was the same they were '' accused of being a mulitipul user'' this was /is not the case.



4. When banned also block the ip address this is easy to do on most websites.



5.Stop banning people for petty reasons!!The polly Maerples fiasco was a classic example, it is clear one monderator altered her email address and used this as an excuse to ban her.

jimmyriddle


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 10:18

In reply to post by Erolz no it does not matter who zoots is he is entitled to his opinion Idoubt he will be swayed from it though.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 10:40

msg. 6, Jimmy wrote:

"it is clear one monderator altered her email address and used this as an excuse to ban her. "



If people would only get their facts right first before accusing. Moderators are not able to alter the e.mail address in the profile, not even their own. This was made clear but let us not have the truth obstruct a good accusation.

ismet

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 10:49

Ismet

'We have such a member who registers almost on a daily basis and gets banned with same frequency.'



Re message 6 & 7, Ismet I think you have just woken him up again.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 12:50

"erolz & zoots



Obviously have very bad opinions about each other."



I find it a joy to read both their posts to one another.



There is a lesson to learn for all just by reading their posts to each other.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 12:53

Msg 10, very wise words

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 15:05

Groucho msg 3 I do think this more than just a case of him having used multiple id's as a means of getting round bans. Others have offered opposing views and been banned multiple times but have maintained transparency accross their multiple ids over time and different fora, like MMMMMM to give one example. MMMMMM as misguided as he can be at times in my opinion is a sincere indivdual wanting to put accross his onw (single) personal point of view, adn thus has maintained transpaceny, through bans and diferent fourums. What is more Campbell Thomas changes ID from site to site, when banning is not an issue. No for me I do not think this use of multiple ID's with each one obsured from the previous for as long as possible is just about getting round bans, I think it is about more than that.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 15:16

Birdman msg 5 I actualy take exception to the claim that my posts are vitriolic or that I hurl abuse and I take exception because I do not think it is true. As far as I make any comment about the person rather than the post and it's content on posts made by Campbell Thomas it is always to do with the same single issue of him hiding who he is in order, I believe, to help him try and more effectively intentfully mislead people. I do not think the same can be said for his posts however and I think you have to look at a few of our exchanges to see that we are not the same in terms of vitriol or hurling abuse.

As to going 'off topic' my posts in his regard are always inevitably 'reactive'. What do you suggest I do when I see him post the same old lies yet again for the umpteenth times using the umpteenth obsured new identity (like the trnc consitution is racist to give one recent example) whilst pretentding to not be Campbell Thomas ?

jimmyriddle


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 18:33

Message 9



Re message 6 & 7, Ismet I think you have just woken him up again. AJ speak for I d not like what Iread and will ban the user or close the thread soon.



Message 8 no worse than a certain member accusing an honerable member of being a wife beater, I found that quite sickening !

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 18:41

Things are quite simple.



Banned members re-join using multiple ID's. They re-join so they may post. Hopefully, they believe their posts will be read. Perhaps even commented upon.



Mods DO HAVE the facility to remove posts. I know this means trawling through, but if you know members who are banned re-join with multiple ID's, just delete ALL their posts.



There is an even simpler method. All members with multiple ID's should have all their posts read by AJ before appearing on the forum.



Simples.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 18:48

Just to try and get back 'on topic' if possible.



This thread is not about banning people, how they subvert such bans and what can be done to stop that. At least that was not my intention for the thread.



My starting questions was 'does it matter who the poster zoots is ?'. I believe that it does matter who they are and not because if they are who I think they are they should be banned having previousl been banned under other IDs, but because I believe it is necessary to know the connection between this current identity and their many previous ID's and their real world ID if people are to be able to properly judge the posts they make in proper context and without the obfuscation and decpetion inherent in the use of a 'hidden' identity.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 18:53

Personaly I find "your Banter" very imformative

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 20:06

Salahi

Start on the premise that I hate everyone so everyone hates me! I think therefore I am! Time for those 'happy' pills again!



Richard

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
30/04/2011 23:36

My question is, why was it necessary to ban Pike, Seans or Campbell? Surely we are grown-up enough to stand his alternative view.

brother



Joined: 29/01/2010
Posts: 446

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 00:29

Msg.1 and Msg 19: it may also matter because most of us do not have time for trolls.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 00:38

sorry Groucho, but some of us don't like to be insulted too often, or misjudged and unfortunatley some of the posters on here need to be banned in the interests of ethics.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 06:46

Well Marion in that case half the active members must be up for a ban....

My point is, by banning him without a sure-fire way of preventing re-incarnation it plays into his hands.

Which is frankly daft.

Old saying 'better the Devil you know'.

At least that way there is no confusion.

As it is, anarchy reigns which is not to the benefit of the membership apart from the fifth-columnists (sic)

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 08:31

No issues with members having alternative opinions but I do have issues with members targetting other members, generally female and attempting to discredit or belittle them. All members have to do is look at the recent comments made by Zoots against Marion. If this persisted over a period of months or years you can understand why in some instances these targetted members vanish. Anyone remember Classy village girl ? Cyber bullying at its worst.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 08:53

I agree GinaC but has it solved the problem? No.

So now it's just confusion rather than before when everyone knew who it was and what to expect.

Until such time as an effective method of preventing multiple IDs is instituted what's the point?

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 09:02

If there is no means of restricting access then I understand your point Groucho.



In the meantime it is important for members to understand the history of this poster and if he crosses the line with personal attacks then at least the posts in question should be removed. His posts are very easy to spot so until a mechanism exists to prevent access then I suggest the administrators monitor such accounts carefully.



I have no wish to stifle alternative opinions just the underhand attempts at discrediting other members in an attempt to give his opinion more credence.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 09:35

On the NCFP comment section we allowed GCs to embarrass themselves so we could see why Cypriots would be unable to live together without the kind of violence that came before the division. GC posts have become a rarity now.

Excuse whatever appears below, I'm seeing what Bulletin Board Codes are installed so that post formats can be brightened up, e.g. [^b]bold[^/b] without the "^" makes words [b]bold[/b]

[img] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1vrMUpPZIPM/TZfGnjqx1zI/AAAAAAAAAek/Rt4hTr6-OJo/s1600/bang+head+here+ncfp_wordpress_com.jpeg[/img]

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 09:36

or in this case didn't work!

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 15:46

Campbell Thomas is not a GC. He is a Scottish / British journalist and on NCFP he wrote an article for you as this journalist. He then commented on his own article , but forgot when he commented that he was logged in as one of his many 'alter egos', namely ptepike.



http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2010/09/11/the-visit-by-campbell-thomas/#comments



I personally think the readers of NCFP should be able to know if someone who is writting an article for it, also has a 10 year history of running down the TC / TRNC using a series of 'hidded' ids accross many many different fora. In this case through his mistake Campbell Thomas let the cat out of the bag, but if he had not ?

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 16:33

Re : Msg 28,



I've read the link above. Very interesting and bizarre. Even more so, because as the result of 'The Visit' over the barbed wire we all could have ended up sans Mr.&Mrs. Thomas : there are MINEFIELDS everywhere there, some are signed, some not. What a price to pay for one newspaper article!

jimmyriddle


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 16:48

As I have met Campbell Thomas I can say he is an eloquent and knowledgeable he does have his own point of view and take on the Cyprus issues then so do most posters on here just because his do not conformto yours or mine they are NO LES VALID.



Opinions are like botty burps we all have them but none of us want them in our faces !

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:08

message 25, I heartily agree, for some reason Zoots has deceided to belittle everything I have posted just recently, ....I have no idea why as I do not know him and havent upset him in any way so why he should be a cyberbully towards me I have no idea, I suppose it is because.......he can!!

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:11

jimmyriddle to you ever bother to read the threads that you post on ?



The issue is not that Campbell Thomas has 'opposing views'. The issue is his use of deception and obfuscation as to who he is in relation to the many many multiple ID's he uses and has used over the many years accross many different fora.



If he had the guts and decent honesty to post as a 'single' identity with transparency between his multiple aliases, then there would me no issue here. However there IS I believe an issue when he wants the 'freedom' to post his opposing not as a 'single' person but as many different identitites whilst hidding the connection between such identities. The issue is here is his attemtped use of deception. If his views are valid why not make them openly as himself? Why the need for such deception ? Everything I have ever posted about Cyprus on any forum is identitify as me using a single identity and I stand by anything I have written. Why is this not the case for Campbell Thomas ?

jimmyriddle


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:12

PERHAPS THIS IS ANOTHER THREAD SERVING NO PURPOSE ?



But there again it may have been addressed !

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:15

Shrimp yet as this very moment he is calling me a cyberbully over on another forum using yet another of his 'hidden identites'. This kind of rank hypocrasy can only be seen if one is able to link his current identity here with that used over there and the many he has used in the past, where he has a long history of vitiriolic personal attacks on other posters.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:17

Jimmyriddle you would not be trying to undermine my and others right to free speech would you ?

jimmyriddle


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:23

not at all that is ajs department I say free speech for all including you Campbell little nige and mmmmmm but alas i fear not.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:31

Do you also believe in free speech for me as a single person, or free speech for me decitfully pretending to be many different multiple people, so you can not link what I have said as person one with what I have said as person 2,3, and so on ?

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:39

jimmyriddle no one is trying to stifle zoots opinions try reading this thread once again and please read it once more before you post.



What we are talking about is full blown deception using multiple identities and cyber bullying at its worse. Your attempt to deflect this by going on the usual anti AJ campaign does you know favours whatsoever.



Msg31 - Shrimp, hope you do not mind me asking but are you female. This is zoots trade mark, tending to single out women like myself and many others before.

jimmyriddle


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:40

I believe in free speech for ALL as a single person, AND IF UNREASONABLY banned free speech for all decitfully pretending to be many different multiple people, so as to evade Possible identification by the unreasonable mod who did the deed.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:57

jimmyriddle it would seem you are more intent on righting the wrongs against others and waging an anti AJ campaign rather than sticking to the topic.



I think that if you or the others you mention feel wronged you can contact the administrators direct rather than ditract from this thread.



Please lets remain on topic as I think this is very important to this forum.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 17:59

So I take it Zoots has been banned and his Schizo mate JR has taken over ?





I simply can't keep up

jimmyriddle


Joined: 26/04/2011
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:02

way way off the mark turtle.





MODERATORS NOTE Jimmyriddle has been shown to be LittleNige. As such he has been banned as will all of LittleNige's Alts when discovered. His continued insistence on Breaking the rules makes this inevitable. One day he may wake up to the fact that his current situation is brought on by his persistent breaking of the rule of one member one login. Indeed if he had realised this from the beginning he would have been back posting in his own right long ago.

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:02

GinaC - yes I am female (in answer to your question), my full profile and email address is there for anyone to see, I am who I am with nothing to hide......I trust everyone and hide nothing.....maybe stupidly, but that is me and I cant change who I am......nor would I want to.....x

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:07

Turtle - I know it's difficult to keep up - particularly when you reach the stage where posters (posting under multiple ID's) are having conversations with themselves, but unless "Zoots" (a.k.a. take your pick) spelling, grammar and punctuation has taken an immense nosedive, I think JR might just be someone else we all know and love



Oh, what do I know, I can't keep up either



PS GinaC - at least "Zoots" is predictable. It didn't take long for him to revert to type, i.e. personal insults aimed at women.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:13

Hi Shrimp, thanks no problem in being open but a word of caution, this member has been known to send emails to other members and emails of the not very nice variety. Some may find these upsetting and it is cyber bullying taken to the next level.



My advice to anyone receiving such emails is to report the matter to the Police.



Anyway if zoots were to just post his opinions I personally would have no issues with them at all. Its the personal attacks on and off board that concern me.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:15

Jeannie have you also been on the receiving end of zoots insulting posts or emails ?

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:16

He doesn't just restrict himself to women to be fair.

I can show examples from over 5 years ago where under one id or another of his where he has thrown various personal unfounded accusations at me, and where I challenge these accusations and get no reply, only to find a year or so later he makes them all over again under a different assumed identity, fails to support them and then starts all over again using another ID and so on and so on. This has been going on as I say for 10 years or so and I believe exposing such behaviour is validly in the 'public interest'.



The use of multiple ID's may have started as a means of subverting bans placed on him, itself a dubious practice, but I believe he nows sees a real 'value' in such deceptive and obfuscated ID's beyond just subverting bans, especially when one looks at their use accross different forums, where there is no need to subvert a ban.



Personally if I can say something openly as who I really am I dont want to say it at all.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:16

Jeannie,... I did have a good idea so lets hope the punctuation stays banned

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:16

GinaC - you are so right. I did not take the matter to the police when it happened to me (with hindsight, I think I probably should have done) but as far as I know, at least one other recipient did.



Jean

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:19

thanks Gina, if that happens I would not hesitate in reporting it to the police and to the mods on this board....I am afraid I tend to trust everyone until that trust is seriously compromised....then just watch out!! Thanks for the warning though!.......... the email address is my husband's email address too and he would not be amused.....x

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:30

Jeannie and Shrimp



Reporting such incidents to the administrators is a start but the UK Police is a much better option.



Erolz



I agree that he does not only pick on women but my experience over the years has seen a massive bias towards insulting women. The multiple ID's were I think initially aimed at bypassing being banned but like you I now suspect a more sinister reason.



What members need to ask is why has this member been banned from so many forums over the past decade. He may cry breach of freedom of speech but there are countless examples out there where he has taken it to a personal level in effect stalking his victims via the internet.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:35

Message 46



Gina - sorry, have only just seen your message.



Yes; a couple of e-mails some while ago, although not sent under the current nom-de-plume.



I know I wasn't the only one at that time, either.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:35

Msg 42,... you are right I WAS way off the mark





I give up !

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 18:38

Message 53 - don't worry about it Turtle - you obviously haven't got such a suspicious mind as some of us - I mean that in a nice way



Message 42 - well done Moderators.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 19:11

It may be useful to list some of the multiple ID's used by this member



EricSeans

Scaramanga

PtePike

Zoots

Campbell Thomas - a name often used but never as a member



P.S. well done administrators on message 42 the more of these multiple ID's weeded out the better.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 19:33

Alternative to banning, the naughty step as introduced by pollymparples. It's great, you get to read comics, drink vimot and eat liquorice allsorts.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 19:36

Well it looks as though we've got rid of the constantly rude and insulting Pt Pike, alias Zoots/Eric Seans/ Jason/ Cypgab etc, etc, now if we can get rid of the equally rude and insulting Captain Clogwearing this forum may go back to what it was intended for.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 19:39

vimto, I realise that vimot, could be thought as a typo for vomit - no no no we don't make you drink vomit, no matter how naughty you have been.



Banning is a little primitive.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 19:53

Not sure what you mean hattikins as Cypgab is not one of his aliases although in the past they were supportive of each other but even Cypgab saw the light in the end.



Its down to the administrators to weed out the trouble makers and your reference to Captain Clogwearing does you no favours as it sounds like a vendetta and could get this thread closed.



The administrators have a hard job but if they adopted the rule that each member has to show common decency to fellow members it would be a good start.



Back to Zoots if for some reason he has been banned then he will return in another guise but within 5 posts those amongst us that have followed his journey over the last decade will have him sussed.



He is anti TRNC anti Rauf Denktaş pro GC and insulting to those that confront his view especially us ladies. Makes you wonder why he bought a place here stays here well at least until recently when he is not staying in Paphos.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 20:07

Perhaps when you have been insulted by this person as often as I and many others have you will understand my feelings. It may not do me any favours but nevertheless it's the truth. He has got insulting all things British down to a fine art, just like Zoots.

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 20:13

GinaC - you forgot 'dryboak' and 'riflemanfisher'.

Dryboak has been with us again for a few days, though I have only spotted one post by him.

He always has at least one alias ready to use each time when he is expecting to be banned!

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 20:19

Know doubt Campbell Thomas is loving reading all this !



More fuel for the fire folks??

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 20:22

Hattikins please don't get me wrong I do understand your feelings and I'm not disputing what you say but it has to be the administrators that make the decision to revoke a membership or not. All you can do is present your evidence to them via email if they do not see it for themselves.



Zoots does not focus his attacks purely on the British, his favourites are the British, UK born Turkish Cypriots and those of Turkish origin but any female is also fair game if you confront him or post something he does not agree with.



His favourite put down is to infer that you have made a late night posting under the influence of drink or that you lack education or that you are senior in years or a combination of these. Does this ring any bells with fellow members.



Erolz states that transparency would be a better thing. I disagree in that Zoots and his alta egos are extremely transparent.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 20:31

Tootie



He probably is enjoying the attention but he will be seething that he cannot respond, assuming of course that he has been banned.



Don't worry, he will be able to respond elsewhere quoting the contents of this forum and then bragging he has rejoined under yet another member name.



If it wasn't for the sinister undertones and off board stalking and nasty emails I would personally treat it as a game. You can choose to ignore his posts or take delight in identifying his latest ID.



If he could rejoin under a member name that clearly indicated it was him and he avoided the personal abuse and cyberbullying I would not have a problem with him being a member here. He could then post his opinion until the end of time. He cannot do that, confront his opinion and it very quickly gets personal.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 20:51

kaiserphil



I am not sure about dryboak or riflemanfisher as aliases of the member in question.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:00

The problem with our friend Pikey is that he is a Journalist by trade and so is never expected to be questioned or challanged when he writes professionally, when he comes on here he expects the same and he can't handle it,..thats why he gets all steamed up.





Private Pike should learn from his mate because.... "they don't like it up em"

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:06

I agree Turts, bye the way i dont mean to stir things up but your posts don't seem to have the same affect since they removed your aviator )

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:09

Does it matter who the poster zoots is ?

This may help in the search!

http://youtu.be/tqXrAHuLksU



Richard

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:09

Do you know Coop's I was thinking the same about you

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:10

Funny you should mention PtePike



For those that want to see what he got up to before he became zoots take a look at this



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/show-member.asp?member=PtePike



The photo is not that of the member in question but if you have time click on a few of his posts especially those aimed at us lady members of Cyprus 44.



A journalist can quote multiple links to syndication of their work his greatest claim



http://www.undercurrents.org/articles/breaking.htm



to be continued

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:11

A few weeks previously a journalist reporting for the Daily Mail was arrested in Ayrshire merely for knocking on a door.He was enquiring about the secret meeting of hugely influential capitalists known as the Bilderbergs. Eight years a journalist, Campbell Thomas, 34, is also a special constable and his initial disbelief at his arrest for breach of the peace was followed by 5 hours in a filthy cell.

Thomas said that “it seems that the arresting of journalists has been going on for a long time but newspaper and Tv editors rely so much on the police for tip offs that they don’t want to risk upsetting their prime source of news” Despite all of the charges being dropped in court, he was suspended from his work as a special constable.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:28

Richard it does not matter who zoots is. What does matter is that a single person with an opinion valid or not is allowed to push that opinion under multiple ID's as a result of a previous banning. Not being banned for having such an opinion but for being banned for personal attacks and then rejoining and being allowed to continue such attacks.



He constantly makes claims to justify his opinion and then he constantly fails to provide any credible evidence to support such claims. He is then presented with evidence to disprove his claims and then he tries to discredit the source of the evidence. He will then vanish for days weeks months only to rise like the phoenix under a different membership to continue with his attack. You can spot him a mile off as all you have to do is question his evidence and he will vanish or distract or ridicule the other member confronting his view.



If he still has property in Girne you can understand why he keeps his real name off the forums.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:31

GinaC

'Hattikins please don't get me wrong I do understand your feelings and I'm not disputing what you say but it has to be the administrators that make the decision to revoke a membership or not. All you can do is present your evidence to them via email if they do not see it for themselves'



I agree and how do we know if some one has been offended by a posting or an e-mail?.

As for me I do not care one iota as to what people think about me and I have a few e-mails and text messages that make me laugh every time I read them. It does not bother me but I fully understand that some members do take exception to certain comments made but unless we receive e-mails from members that are hurt or upset about postings then it is hard to do anything about it.

AJ

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:38

AJ,...you must have skin like a Rhino )

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:47

AJ



Its a difficult and thankless role you play. Some posts are blatantly offensive and those are the ones I as a member expect you to deal with once seen. Others are more subtle and unless you know the background and history you cannot be expected to react without further information. This is where the members can assist in the running of the forum.



You may be able to laugh at the emails and texts you receive but a constant stream of them from a member of this forum for months or years is no laughing matter. It deters members from taking an active role on here.



Zoots or his other forum ID's does not restrict his activities to the forum.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 21:52

Turtle

Fortunately the industry I used to work in has taught me a lot and the crap I get from certain members on this board is mere bagatelle compared.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
01/05/2011 22:02

But you were proactive tonight AJ, well done.



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/62206.asp



You may have got a tough skin AJ but some of us haven't. The way I look at it is would I say to the person face to face what I am typing on here. If I wouldn't then don't type it.



Zoots would never say what he said to Marion, Shrimp, Hattikins, Jeannie to name but a few face to face now would he? Ah a trend again 4 ladies insulted by this person and yet he remained a member. Come on girls, help the administrators out. If you feel insulted then let them know and we can put a stop to this.



Zoots when you return stick to your opinion and leave out the personal attacks and then you can voice your opinion for another decade but as per usual you will be challenged.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
02/05/2011 01:14

God bless Pikey,



Paul.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
02/05/2011 02:25

Anyone sending you an email using their own (home or work) computer can be tracked down. I suggest you contact your internet service provider.



Read this: http://ezinearticles.com/?Who-Is-The-Owner-Of-This-Email-Address---Name,-Address,-And-Number-In-Minutes!&id=6219797

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
02/05/2011 03:03

Erolz, look what you've done to the silly old crumblies. Not an original thought among them. The mass hysteria is hilarious.

"Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad."





MODERATORS COMMENT by HAROLD2555

Zoots, you are not banned for you have not broken specific rulles but be warned, describing members as "Silly old Crumblies" is hardly polite so please moderate your own words in future.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
02/05/2011 08:49

That's only for those who believe in God... in fact the saying might well be re-worded "Those who want to control others, first make them believe in a God".

The fact that any banned poster can easily re-appear under another identity makes the whole process of banning a bit pointless.

shrimp


Joined: 01/09/2010
Posts: 939

Message Posted:
02/05/2011 13:23

Zoots to go, AJ to stay in my opinion.............

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
02/05/2011 16:41

Zoots of late is very careful of breaking forum rules. Right to the wire on many posts but just not quite there and you need to ask yourself why.



He needs TRNC and ROC forums so he can continue to air his opinion. Pity he cannot do so without the put downs and personal abuse.



On message 63 I wrote "His favourite put down is to infer that you have made a late night posting under the influence of drink or that you lack education or that you are senior in years or a combination of these. Does this ring any bells with fellow members" to which he replied in message 80 "look what you've done to the silly old crumblies. Not an original thought among them. The mass hysteria is hilarious"



True to form an attack on those potentially older than himself and a dig at their interllect. A troll maybe but other members need to be aware that behind this facade is a sinister motive.

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
02/05/2011 16:43

As for honesty lets try a simple question Zoots.



Do you still have property in the north of Cyprus. A simple yes or no will suffice.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 12:26

Msg 84 GinaC: "Do you still have property in the north of Cyprus? A simple yes or no will suffice."

Why would I tell a stalker like you? Why not practise what you preach below and give me YOUR address and we can have a chat face-to-face? Anyone who cares to look at your profile will see almost all your 71 posts have been personal attacks against other members. Help is available for that kind of behaviour. For breathtaking hypocrisy see below:

GinaC wrote: "This is beginning to sound more like a witch hunt which was as stated by AJ not his intention. Those that did this are disgusting individuals and exhibit all the hallmarks of a coward. If you have a problem with a person then deal with it person-to-person not on a forum or via a shop window for goodness sake."

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/59249.asp

All the hallmarks of a coward. How very true...

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 21:45

Has anyone seen "GinaC"/Erolz? I'm sure they'll want to read the above post.

Or maybe just hide.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
03/05/2011 23:07

Do you have a question for me Zoots as part of an adult debate or is post 86 just another attempt to create an 'impression' ?

GinaC


Joined: 26/11/2010
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 10:17

Fortunately I do not spend all of my time behind the keyboard. I will leave it to the administrators of the forum as to if I am a stalker or not and that almost all of my posts are personal attacks against fellow members. I have never openly accused anyone of being under the influence nor being senile nor lacking in education. Can you say the same?



More than happy to meet up with you for a face to face, you decide when and where.

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 17:22

Just listen to yourselves.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 17:30

Msg 89,

I agree. Lemar must be out of incontinence pads by now.

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 19:59

Come on people



90 posts?



Pikey must be loving this.



Close the thread.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 20:12

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.