should thay have killed bin laden

thetruth


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 268

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:00

can a country kill somebody in cold blood for whatever crime thay committed.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:04

Looks like the answer is Yes. The yanks can do what they like.

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:07

Ask the suvivers of 9/11

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:07

Agree with msg 2

stilluvithere



Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 765

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:13

How many people died at the hands of Bin Laden, of course they are justified

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:13

Not before they'd connected the 'jump leads' to the murdering bar steward's rowlocks and got some valuable info. out of the lying, little camel-shagger!



Playing 'Devil's Advocate', of course, one could pose the question: 'How more many innocent lives have been sacrificed and atrocities committed by 'The Allies'?' - Makes one think, doesn't it???

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:16

I find it hard to believe anyone can ask these questions, the man was a cold blooded mass murderer.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:18

Msg 7 alleged



surely shooting an unarmed person is wrong ?

martinev


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 320

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:19

The World's police force (USA) seem to be able to do whatever they want and expect gratitude from everyone for doing it.



What a country !!



Martinev

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:20

Post 1..easy yes..But saying that it was hard work to get him and he sure was not going to get caught alive..He knew that and wanted it that way..Shame though that they were so unable to get him alive..get him to the USA..







Spider,X

Mick the Fish


Joined: 27/05/2008
Posts: 180

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:36

But is it him ? No problem, Donald Trump has asked to see the

Death certificate.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:37

They certainly saved a small fortune on security for a war crimes trial. Personally, I would have preferred him to stand trial... if only to put an end to the daft conspiracy theorists who hold with the notion that 9/11 was a CIA action.

If during the storming of this villa he was returning fire then killing him might have been the only way. But I get the impression that the summary justice meted out had been pre-ordained.

As they'd already tried to blanket-bomb him into oblivion before I don't see that we could have expected anything less.

I do not hold with the whooping, gleeful celebration of his killing as witnessed on TV as this will only serve to make him even more a martyr.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:40

Groucho the "celebrations" were not good I agree, but do you really think a trial would have been a good thing? think about the consequences in so many ways.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:41

Even the Nazis got a trial!

notthereyet


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:42

How do you know he is dead he may be at Guantanamo having buckets of water poured down his throat and then his feet boiled in oil. Leaving the bar steward alive would have every mad Johnny hi jacking planes demanding his release. Bringing him to trial would have contravened his human rights so if you had a shot take it, i bet if they could have got cross hairs on Hitler we would not have moaned casualty of war tough!!!!!

Think how those poor sods on those planes felt as they phoned home and said cheerio they weren't armed either bleeding heart liberals bless em.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:43

2 wrongs etc.



who is better?

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:44

why didnt they just say look here bin you have been a naughty boy we will let you go if you say sorry and attend a self help group every Thursday morning in a local village hall.....,,, for some people it seems right for Bin to be killed and for others it is not right.....if we all keep on killing to avenge killing who will be left

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
04/05/2011 23:45

Just killing people without trial is savagery... if the US wants to claim the moral high-ground they need to be mindful of the provisions the rest of the civilised world holds to be essential in terms of behaviour when taking prisoners.

notthereyet


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:01

SAS Gibraltar, the guy on the underground who knows what went on in that room and what the assault team thought maybe he just didnt offer them a cup of tea but implied a threat by actions you already have judged the yanks. Bin Laden declared it a war not us, sometimes i am amazed at people Groucho read the comments of the families of the victims the dont want moral high ground they want vengeance and JUSTICE.

mahdel


Joined: 28/05/2009
Posts: 255

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:04

Considering the fact that Bin Laden's ideals included the idea that being killled by the infidel US forces would grant him immediate access to paradise, unless of course he was just spouting that BS for the underlings, I'd say they did him a favor compared to capturing him.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:05

Msg 19 , James Bulgers killers

(who were identified on the net today)

should they be/have been killed

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:05

The question has to be "Is the US involved in law enforcement or is it involved in a war"



If it is involved in law enforcement, then the right thing to do be would have been to handcuff him and hand him over to an international law court to face trial.

The difficulty is that the world does not have a police force. Think about that because this is important. This leaves a tremendous void. The US chooses to feel this void, but it wants to pull back from this role. Unbelievable but yes, its true. If they pull back who should fill this role?



War is madness, but under conditions of war, from what I understand it is legitimate to kill the leader of the opposition. I would like to be corrected on this if I am wrong.

We can be sure, that given the chance Al Qaida would kill Barack Obama and see it as legitimate.



The question is 'Are the two sides at war?'



A definition of war



' A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties'

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:06

Well he alledgley used one of his wives as a human shield. As he was not armed, It appears from reports and I know we cant beleive all we read that several in the house were armed. Who would use a woman as a human shield .If the hahnt buired him at sea, and he had a grace that would have become a shrine for his followers.

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:10

Lilli the US have said she was not a human shield

but was shot in the leg

but how many children were in that compound ?

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:16

I have always believed that to kill for revenge is wrong even after a fair trial and conviction. However, what must it be like for those who have to brief the soldiers on when shooting to kill is appropriate if dealing with a total psychopath who revelled in the killing of many thousands of innocent civilians of all creeds, ages, and religions plus many, brave servicemen from many nations. If tasked with that responsibility would you be willing to say that a further life should perhaps be put at risk in an effort to arrest someone in the middle of a firefight or no further risk is to be taken, there is a shoot to kill policy and check thereafter what level of risk was involved ? For example no one knows the scenario at the moment of the killing. Established and admitted with hindsight that he was unarmed but there could have been risk of being shot in the back by one of his bodyguards whilst saying "Mr Bin Liner, please stand fast with hands in the air, I am prepared to fire".

notthereyet


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:22

msg 21

How can you compare the actions of those pair with the head of a terrorist organization that was actively engaged in a holly war with the west. do me a favour your argument has no relevance.

On a personal note and knowing exactly what happened to that child and how he suffered the answer is yes i would have strung them up from the nearest tree, that way the sicko back in klink would not have been up to his neck in child porn.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:23

Notthereyet,

I only said my preference would have been for a trial. I'm pretty sure he would have been executed following same. I'm not that unrealistic.

As it stands the conspiracy theorists will have field day.

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:26

When you do what the terrorist does, you become one. God help us all, and I don't even believe in him never mind the 72 virgins.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:28

Hi Phil in answer to your question I really do not know. I have been out till about 15 mins ago and havent seen any news today.Im glad to see the back of OBL. With the Us it will always be one conspiracy after another. Did you ever watch the movie Ziegiest, now that does make you think. When are they going to withdraw their troops from Afghanistan, do you think it will be sooner than stated now x

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:57

msge 29



"When you do what the terrorist does, you become one."



In a previous post you endorsed the Al Qaida killings of people at the twin towers. Am I to assume from your statement above that you now believe that act to be wrong?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 00:59

sorry Lilli, I meant post 28. I am very embarrassed :-(

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 01:06

Rot In Hell, SCUM!!!!!!

A bullet was to good for him........

Sid447


Joined: 15/05/2009
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 02:37

"...A bullet was to good for him........"



Around 25c of taxpayers money. ....Best 25c worth spent by a government recently.



All the Pakistanis involved in the cover-up should be next on the list.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 07:35

Sid447 "All the Pakistanis involved in the cover-up should be next on the list."

Have you any confidence that US combatants are the right people to decide who these terror suspects are? If they have a shoot first ask questions later policy let's hope innocent people aren't in the cross-hairs.

The recent revelation that approximately 150 of the Guantanamo Bay detainees were known to be completely innocent by the US, does not fill me with confidence.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 08:39

Groucho/Msg 34:



Most of us have been at the wrong place at the wrong time - Bin could have been down the local 24 hour kiosk, buying the groceries and his latest edition of 'Playboy'!



'Sh1t happens'; just as so many TRNC property buyers have since found out by 'being at the wrong place at the wrong time'.



Nobody in this world can rely on 'justice' - some are lucky, some not!

dreamer


Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 189

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 09:19

HAVE THEY KILLED BIN LADEN ??????? Was 911 really a terrorist attacK ?????

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 09:51

msge 36



You are dreaming

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 10:11

What is Pakistan's position in this episode?....



Bin Laden was officially identified by DNA tests,where did the US find a comparator...??



Why, when the US leads the world in High Speed communication ,were the "FACTS" of this covert operation so muddled ??

Carndi


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 613

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 10:18

Had he been taken alive then there would have been the possibility of numerous people being taken hostage in an attempt to gain his freedom.

If you think back to the hijackings of the 60's70's then we could have had a repeat.

Better he is dead and if he has a watery grave then there is no martyr shrine to visit.



PS. If he was buried at sea then they should have had his loyal subjects dig the grave.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 11:06

msge 39



I agree. I wrote on another posting that people would be taken hostage in return for his release. Burying him at sea was a smart move. I also think that Obama is right not to release any pictures. In fact they would be foolish to publish them. It may not matter if people still think he is alive. Many will deny his death anyway.



Msge 38



Pakistan is a real problem. You could argue that it is the most dangerous country in the world, particularly that they possess nuclear weapons. It looks as though many of the Generals are on the take. The US has given them 20 billion dollars to fight terrorism. Some have no doubt got rich.



Saying that, the Pakistanis have killed many terrorists, and they may have known about the bin laden event. The Pakistan government has to keep both sides happy, both the west and its large anti west faction. Very difficult.



A comparator - I believe many of his family have come forward as comparators. Most of his family despise him.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 11:19

msge 38



"Why, when the US leads the world in High Speed communication ,were the "FACTS" of this covert operation so muddled ??"



I would ask a different question.



"How is it even possible to get a clear picture of what is going on when communication between humans is so difficult at the best of times, let alone in high pressured situations?



Humans can only focus on a fraction of the stream of data that is presented to them. Even then, the data is screened through individual filters, perceptions, history, memory, beliefs, values and various other schema.

birdman



Joined: 20/09/2010
Posts: 690

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 11:21

How many of OBL@s victims were armed ?

He didn't give a S H one T about the thousands he had murdered in his name.

How appropriate that he too wasn't armed when he lost HIS life !

What's good for the goose, springs to mind !

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 11:27

I'm absolutely astounded that anyone would even ask the question on whether or not he should be killed.

anlusan


Joined: 22/07/2010
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 11:53

Im glad we got people like birdman on the forum

cos i got a long list of people who murdered thousands in their names.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Lets start. Well the whole of the UK cabinet that voted for the iraqi war, the entire senate and congress, etc.

then of course you have every military commander involved in iraq, afghanistan,etc. Not to mention the entire parliament of the knesset.



wow thats a lot of extrajudicial killing, somebodys gonna be busy

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 12:19

msge 44



You have a very fair point. Hard to argue with that.



Big mistake going in to Iraq, and definitely an atrocious and a despicable lack of planning for the aftermath, but I hope you also recognise that Sadam Hussein may have killed up to 1 million people, if you include his wars with Iraq and Kuwait.

I hope you also recognise that many in Iraq were killed by Al-Qaida with the intent of destabilising the country.





The coalition had more legitimacy going in to Afghanistan. Attacks on our borders were being launched and strategised from this country.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 12:23

correction to msge 45



Meant the war with Iran

Happy Hussar


Joined: 01/10/2008
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 13:35

A bullet in the head was too easy for the SOB. He should have died screaming. IMO

Tony

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 17:35

Just been reading some of the speculation about bin liners demise. First theory the killing was delayed for Will and Kates wedding. They say that the White House could have killed hoim on friday, delayed the news for two days so that the two events would not clash. The also say the reason Wills and kate delayed their honeymoon was that they had a tip off as the honeymoon was likely to have been Jordan x When will we ever know. x

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 18:07

For all the sceptics out there, surmising that he was not killed, do you seriously believe that President Obama would make such a statement if it were not true and so give bin ladan the golden opportunity to crawl out from under his stone and prove to the world he was not dead. Get real!

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 18:18

message 48



i can believe obama could have taken him out friday ....but i cant believe they were taking that trout jordan on holiday with them .



kav

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 18:22

Kav LOL xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , You would have laughted when they announced the news here on BRT , they said that Obama Bin Laden had been killed. Quarmby there will always be the sceptics out there. x

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 19:54

10 years. Trillions of dollars. Thousands of soldiers dead. State of the art technology. The US finally found Bin Laden.



In his house.    

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 19:55

BTW, I killed Colonel Gaddafi last night. I didn't take any pictures and threw his body into the sea. Just take my word for it; he's definitely dead.    

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 19:58

I accept what you say bill, hope the fish love him xxx

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 20:35

Stop all this ecstatic pant wetting you guys. He was murdered. The reason why they will not show his picture is because they murdered an unarmed man shooting him several times in the head and lots more in the body. How on earth does Obama explain this without sounding like the usual American blood thirsty bar steward.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 20:39

I recently invented a new drink.



It's 2 shots followed by a large splash of water.



I call it the Bin Laden.    

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 20:41

Msg 48 "Just been reading some of the speculation about bin liners demise. First theory the killing was delayed for Will and Kates wedding. They say that the White House could have killed hoim on friday, delayed the news for two days so that the two events would not clash. The also say the reason Wills and kate delayed their honeymoon was that they had a tip off as the honeymoon was likely to have been Jordan x When will we ever know. x"

Well it just goes to show you the kooks and crazies out there who have access to the internet these days.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 20:43

better you call it odd bins xxxxxxxxxx Elton has now re recored his song now its sandles in the bin xxxxxx

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 20:50

lilli , ( smiley face ) nice .

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 20:55

"I recently invented a new drink.

It's 2 shots followed by a large splash of water.

I call it the Bin Laden. "



" Elton has now re recorded his song, now its ' sandals in the bin' "



Oh I how love the great British sense of humour..

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:46

Osama Bin Laden has just broadcast a public message on Al Jazira TV to prove he is still alive... He says West Ham were sh*t on Saturday". However, US intelligence sources have dismissed it saying he could have recorded it anytime in the last 5 years.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:54

Look at some of these conspiracy theories....



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/osama-bin-laden-conspiracy-theories.html

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
05/05/2011 22:56

More here



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/62632.asp

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 19:55

Al-Qaida has confirmed that Bin Laden is dead



Read it on Al-Jhazeera website.



Definitely no need to show the pictures now.



Al-qaida have said they will get revenge for his killing.

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 19:59

message64



when they start their revenge they will end up as fish food as well



kav

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
06/05/2011 23:18

We should all remember that the thousands who died in the twin towers were NOT ARMED either,but he was not bothered about that,also the were not all American infidels as he used to say.I received an e-mail this evening from a friend in the US saying that the CIA had released the proof of Bin Ladens death.It shows a picture of the ocean and a flip flop sandal floatin on the water. Now all we need to do is stop sending all this aid to Pakistan along with millions the Yanks have pumped into that place and let them get on with it, and see how long it is before they come back with there begging bowls.Sorry if I seem a bit racist, but as far as that country is concerned I am....

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 07:15

66 coachie

that isnt racist ,you are correct .



all the aid they have received in these countrys ,and they still hide the main terrorist and say nothing .



for me these terrorist have no place to hide,no border ,no safe houses etc etc .

anybody with the balls and i mean balls to go in and take them out deserves the thanks from all normal people.



ive followed this thread and cant believe the crap some people right .Humanity grounds ?my arse ...slot them everytime in cold blood and unarmed ....just as they do



kav

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 07:17

In my view it was the right thing to do.



Fanatical splinter groups would have captured and slaughtered many hostages in exchange for his release.



The USA never intended to take him alive.



Art.

yrret


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 761

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 07:28

I guess we can assume that anyone disappointed at the death of OBL would have been equally disappointed when Adolf Hitler was killed too?

There are many people who in their own small way are equally as dangerous, defending the indefensible.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 08:07

America will never be popular because they do what has to be done and don't sanitise or make excuses.



The relatives of all the unarmed civilians killed by this human vermin will get a form of closure. I pray they do.

iffytimes


Joined: 07/05/2011
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 09:00

Murder is murder is murder kiulling an unarmed person without trial is wrong

Hoylemiller



Joined: 03/09/2010
Posts: 240

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 09:37

And to think BP got fined for dumping "shit" into the sea.

Happy Hussar


Joined: 01/10/2008
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 09:43

Msg 71, are you a leftie social worker by any chance? He could have been wearing an explosive device or had access to a timer switch or remote control. You are trained to NEVER take chances in this situation.

Tony

iffytimes


Joined: 07/05/2011
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 09:48

Happy Hussar not a chance but neither am a card carrying member of the bilderberg group

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 11:42

msge 55



"the usual American blood thirsty bar steward"



I will ask you again. Do you still endorse the killing of 3000 people at 9/11 which you stated in another thread?



If you still do, how are you any different from a blood thirsty american bar steward?

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 12:15

If we did not have these "blood thirsty" Yanks to sort out these problems,who else will because we cannot.Look at the mess we would have been in after world war 2 had the yanks not intervened.I am not a great lover of them but you have to give credit where credit is due.I dread to think what state the world would be in without them....

martinD41


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 3001

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 12:38

Coachie....Mess "after" WW2? I think "Dunkirk" did for us....We were saved by the "Blood Thirsty Yanks"

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 13:13

msge 76



I absolutely agree with the main sentiments of what you are saying. It is only the Americans who are prepared to do the dirty and down right yucky smelly work. They protect the trade routes etc. Everyone holds them to a standard they themselves could not achieve. I want the Chinese to start to pulling their weight.



We have to also remember that the Americans came to the aid of us "blood thirsty" Europeans.



I can also appreciate resentment against the Americans. 20 million died in the proxy war between the US and the Soviets and their version of laissez faire economics has also created a lot of misery.



Im sure the Americans just want to get on with what they are good at which is creating wealth. They dont want to be distracted by events, they have to focus their energies on their relationship with China, to develop clean energy, jobs and to clear their debt.



If the North Africans asked I would love the US to develop a Marshall type plan to support them.

andy2b123


Joined: 21/12/2010
Posts: 141

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 14:11

YES YES AND AGAIN YES

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 14:17

Long live America and God save the Queen

andre514


Joined: 05/10/2010
Posts: 763

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 14:35

but isn't there some sort of rule about "enemy combatants"?



it is said that crocodiles don't really cry, just that their eyes tend to water



as far as cold-blooded murder is concerned, I wonder at this expression:

...it seems more appropriate to houseparty whodunnits and detective novels



even the worst tyrant could claim some sort of political reason,

however gory the end result and they too fear getting caught in the long run



a typical murder is by someone's partner or spouse:

I tend to avoid this by keeping the wife off the drink, taking out the rubbish

on cue, and putting the right knives, spoons and forks in the cutlery drawer

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 15:45

shame they didnt blow the lot away we all live in fear of these ethnick people why because of religion we all need to live in fear the pacis new he was there another crowd of liyers enock powel told us years ago what a shame we did not pay attention blow em away and keep our children safe or give them that side and tell em next time you take ten bob out of my pocket you wont take another what a waste of time and life it has all been when it could have been solved with small amount of lives cut the lot off

basheer



Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 949

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 15:45

mess 4 They certainly saved a small fortune on security for a war crimes trial.

I agree,for someone who caused thousands of death and billions of $ he did not deserve a religious moslem prayer, I would have blessed him in pigs blood before drowning his dead body

iffytimes


Joined: 07/05/2011
Posts: 20

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 15:47

Mugabe should be next on the list to be bumped off

mikeyCBBR


Joined: 05/01/2009
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 15:51

I would have gladly pulled the trigger

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 16:05

Still attending those racially aware classes then, Gates?

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 16:05

Sorry - that should have read "Racial Awareness"

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 16:22

.Look at the mess we would have been in after world war 2 had the yanks not intervened.

The relatives of the 20 (or was it 30?) million Soviet war dead might argue with that.

Check these pix from yesterday:

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/06/6597184-wwii-soldiers-from-the-former-soviet-union-are-buried-

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 16:28

Msg 86 Jeannie wrote: "Still attending those racially aware classes then, Gates?"

Msg 87 Jeannie wrote: "Sorry - that should have read "Racial Awareness"

If you're going to put someone down for having had a poor education, make sure you don't fall into the same category.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 16:43

the question you should be asking is are we now safer he is dead ,not should he have been killed .legal or not he is now dead and we are in more danger than before .



an american spokesperson on the bbc gave this statement ,bin laden has been killed ,the world is a safer place ,however we must be aware of more terrorist attacks due to his killing.



hmmm those americans know to comfort us .



musin



long live the kktc

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 17:02

Message 89.



AND THERE IT IS!!



It took a little longer than I had anticipated, but I knew it would happen eventually

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 21:47

msge 90



How you doing Musin?



Its a good question you ask. In fact, for me, its at the heart of the matter. I am really surprised that people don't ask it more often. I think it is assumed that our actions will influence Al qaida. Well it is true, but its overstated.



Bin Laden created an idea. Its become powerful because it has piggy backed on the acidic aspects of an otherwise tolerant religion and the idea has found an enemy to focus on, the depraved and prostitute West.



They are coming after us regardless of Bin ladens death. Lets hope that moderate muslims reject the idea and focus on a more prosperous future.

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 22:17

The UK has been anticipating this precise threat and has had contingency plans to deal with it for the last 40 years. Unfortunately it became involved in the EU and has allowed itself to become a haven for much of the dross of the world including those who have evil intent and it is now doubtful that government can meet their first duties which are internal security and defence of the Realm.

Magbs


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
07/05/2011 23:13

Well said, ilovecyprus.



Your post 22 and others sums up perfectly and nothing more needs to be said answeing this odd question.



It is unbelievable how some are unable to see the difference between the 'ordinary' criminals, that should be prosecuted and punished by the criminal law, and the leader of the transnational terrorist organisation.

You can definitely argue whether it would have been more practical and useful to take him alive, but questioning the entire legitimacy?

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 13:01

There is no way on earth will anyone ever convince me that the Packistan government did not know of his presence.When the Americans found out they must have spitting nails to think that all the billions they have pumped into that garbage bin of a place was for nothing.It makes people become anti muslim when your so called "friends" hold out on you. A popular saying comes to min"more faces than the town hall clock" I believe the Yanks acxted in the only possible way left for them,if you want a job done,do it your self,and a damned good job they did too...

Danatnorth


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 105

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 14:19

played into his hands though. Radicalists love marterdom and his death gives him that. I think it would have been better to let him rot in jail.

horselover


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 22:57

he died in 2002 of kidney failure.he had been ill. the western world are always lied to. its all used to manovre elections. cia supplied weapons, same as sadam. bush's best buddy, caught on camera laughin n shakin hands.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 23:15

Bin Laden = cold blooded murderer, for what i ask???? In the name of religion glad i am a non-believer so much death and bloodshed for what???



RELIGION OR OIL

Magbs


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
08/05/2011 23:21

Re 96



Would it have prevented this?

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=206856646&videoChannel=1



The place: near the beautiful Istanbul's Fatih Mosque

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
09/05/2011 01:55

Dr Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury - as usual, is the very reason why ALL RELIGION should be banned eternally - makes one ashamed to be English - he is a complete idiot - divorced from reality and living in a cushioned, solvent world that the majority of people could never hope to inhabit. What a wonderful life; if we got three square daily, no overheads to cover, a roof over our heads for our lifetimes, just for talking to ourselves - or at everyone else........you couldn't make it up......

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
09/05/2011 09:43

Badly managed by the Yanks.

They should have just disappeared his arse and waited for someone in his organization to say "Where is he?"

Confusion in the ranks of AQ would reign supreme. Chickens without heads are better than ragheads out for revenge.

Burial at sea was a good idea but they should have done it before shooting him, not after.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
09/05/2011 12:06

should have used 50 cal and turned his head to mush

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
09/05/2011 13:02

I hope he is sitting amongst the ash and flames demanding his 72 virgins. A fate awaiting parasites here in the TRNC who steal pensioners life saving.

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
09/05/2011 14:18

Death by a 1,000 lashes.......................................................then his legs and arms tied to 4 camels.



Then let the race begin..................................!





Exactly as laid down by Sharia law.

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
09/05/2011 14:48

What the American have done, is no different then what Al Qaida people do when they be-head on video. It is disgusting when terrorist do it, but it is even more disgusting when legal governments do it. They have reverted to an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.



May eye remind all you lovely christians out there that that will live everyone blind and toothless. But then again why should that make any difference, after all you are being led by by lind, but what I did not realise was how many ordinary people are blind themselves.

happyvally


Joined: 03/01/2011
Posts: 53

Message Posted:
09/05/2011 15:32

i do,t think they killed him he was dead five year ago bcaz of illness.but why all this drama it gone above me.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
09/05/2011 17:51

msge 105



Lets assume he was captured, and lets also assume that they could then find an independent jury to pass verdict (not a military court). Lets also then assume that they find him guilty and he is imprisoned for the rest of his life.



I would be interested to see how you would view Al-qaidas reaction to this and in what ways it would be different to him being shot?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
12/05/2011 16:23

Bin Ladens children have given the US 30 days, in which to both provide evidence of his death and to explain adequately why he was assassinated and why his bodily was disposed off illegally under US law. After the 30 days has lapsed they will sue the US government. They are presently consulting with British and International lawyers.



Seven Al-Qaida operatives have just surrendered themselves to the Saudi authorities. It is now believed that many of these operatives now know that the US know who they are due to the finding of the Al-Qaida data and the capture of Bin Ladens personal diary. It is believed that many operatives have now gone in to hiding rather than plotting revenge attacks.