Missing dogs?useless owners?

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 19:44

I can't beleive how many dogs go 'missing' here.I have kept dogs most of my life and have never lost one yet.Do you lose your kids as often?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 19:48

wait for it

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 19:49

You've made a good point roomy.

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 19:53

Got to agree with msg 1 - await the flak now!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 19:57

It'll be along shortly! )

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 20:01

I would think they should be ashamed of themselves, there is an old saying "I wouldn't let them look after a dog never mind a kid".

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 20:10

Wooden spoon awarded to 'Roomy' et al.



Chris

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 20:12

I'll take the flack!

As much as certain Country families dispose of their unwanted female offspring!



Richard

Geoff1131


Joined: 12/07/2007
Posts: 276

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 20:13

I would not give him the wooden spoon. After all, he is only saying what a lot of folk are thinking.

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 20:34

Dogs, yes. Why not come to a hot country, buy a husky as a status symbol that was born to live in, (sorry remind me -30?), and the temp here is, (+30 on a good day?). Then of course it is not a working dog is it?..so you take it 50M into the valley for a piss twice a day cause you are a lazy bas**** and think you have exercised it, then you go out and leave it all day to howl and yowl and bark because it's lonely, then you pretend nobody has complained, then you slap it because it digs up the flower pots out of boredom. Then finally it finds a pal to play with, a snake......It's not the dogs that are the problem here, it's the inconsiderate owners who actually should have to pass a written test on dog keeping. And yes, I have owned dogs, and cats, but my lifestyle here does not suit keeping an animal...or kids, I left them in the UK. It would be better if a few other owners thought long and hard before taking on an animal out here.

TonyE

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 20:44

I couldn't agree more, i only posted on this yesterday - see msg 27 http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/65299.asp

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 20:47

Flipping well said Tony.... too many lost dogs etc etc, then bleating because they are entire, and only let out in the garden, for a few mins! gates left open, bitches on heat the list goes on... ..

msg 1 a lot of us agree with you, its not a case of a wooden spoon, its a case of responsibility .....



Get a high fence and garden gates that shut after entry.. problem then solved ....

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 22:03

TonyE. Very well said.

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 22:24

Just to redress the balance, we have a newly arrived neighbour, with OE sheepdog. Barked and ran round at every moving car, so they put a reed screen around the whole property and now it's just quietly inquisitive. Had its coat shorn very close to stop the panting, it's never left alone to bark, they walk it and walk it, saw (him) training it on a lead this evening. Only one problem, before the screen went up it fell in love with me, and now I have to stop to give it a cuddle every time I pass by lol

TonyE

(Going soft in Bacheli)

lizzybal


Joined: 06/01/2011
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 23:18

Ha ha TonyE ....one day you might just get caught ! We went 7 years without a dog because of the commitment you have to give . Along comes Captain....he is not going anywhere thank you , no amount of shooing away is going to get him off our patio ! That dog did a cabaret act everyday to entice us , and he won !



2 years later he has finally calmed down, trusts us , the village, and is now a happy and contented doggie .



The only time it is hard and worrying is when we have to go to Uk ( about a month each year ) . Been lucky up to date with such good friends looking after him. Thankyou you xxxxx

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 23:29

Roomy , rowlo and NoD that is such a bad comment, you all deserve the punishment we used to receive as naughty children in pre-school.



Go into a round room, stand on one leg in the corner facing the wall for an hour.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 23:32

YFred. What happens after the hour?

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
11/06/2011 23:55

No1;

You'd be able to work that out...................once you've found the corner!

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 00:04

When you do it, you will surely find out don't worry.



Yorgo don't be a spoil sport.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 00:07

That's what's so nice about 44 always a lecture from those that just love to





Lecture







Spider,X

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 03:13

Totally agree with msg 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10...........

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 16:07

Not everyone who looses their dog is a bad owner.

Recently a friend of ours lost her dog. He is the most spolit well cared for dog, he didn't want for anything. The problem is that many of the dogs here are former street dogs and have a tendancy to roam. You can't blame the owners for that. It's great that people pick up strays from the street , take them into their homes and give them a better life. But how ever great that new life is, they still have that urge to roam.

oceana


Joined: 12/07/2010
Posts: 395

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 16:15

Agree with msg 1. Irresponsible owners!

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 16:16

msg22



Then the lost dog posts are moot because the dog has gone home.

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 17:09

We have 4 "ex street dogs" and it isn't really true that they have this continual urge to roam. If they are loved, well fed, warm when its cold, have their own rugs in front of the fire, have shade in the garden when its hot, have ice cubes in their water, wormed, injected, neutered/spayed, a pool to dangle their paws in AND a dog proof garden, why would they have this urge to roam? If there is such a thing as reincarnation, then I want to come back as a dog, living with someone like us. Bliss!!

Roomy


Joined: 20/02/2011
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 17:12

As a youngster most people used to let their dogs out to take themselves for a walk, they always came back, these days we keep them close for a variety of reasons but if they do happen to roam, they should come back, if they don't they won't, as a rule.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
12/06/2011 17:15

Another one of those age old disputes, well not anywhere else but in North Cyprus yes.

Those that have had dogs stolen, fair enough, those that have had dogs poisoned fair enough but a house trained dog (ex street dog or not, they know a good thing from a bad thing) that just wonders off never to be seen again, I have to admit I am dubious. Of course the fact that I don't have a dog in North Cyprus would mean I know nothing about the subject really.

vikkicm


Joined: 17/05/2011
Posts: 158

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 10:31

What a wonderful and enlightening post this is!



2 years ago, my husband and I took in a 6 month old puppy, that had clearly been dumped. We fed him, watered him, walked him and spoilt him, neutered him, and loved him like a child.



If you ask about responsibility, what should we have done? Leave him to die on the street, malnourished/poisoned/bitten by a snake?



Sadly, my husband passed away, 1 month after we found, "Bob", and he has been my sole companion and soul mate



This message comes from a "useless owner"

BoTanica


Joined: 22/12/2009
Posts: 714

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 11:05

Please don't think you are useless. I sincerely hope that you find your dog soon x

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 11:21

im one of the useless owners that bought my own dog out here and took in a stray give money and food to the kar and have cats neatured when i can catch them

BoTanica


Joined: 22/12/2009
Posts: 714

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 11:36

I just hope that the people who need help to find their dogs aren't put off asking for help ..............

bevhills


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 55

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 13:55

Message 10 nand 14. Lets set the record straight here. I am a dog lover and was the owner of a beautiful Husky That YOU liked to walk when it suited you. I bought Rocky as he was 'left on the shelf' in a pet shop when I had ordered a pedigree Labrador - dogs which I had kept all my life. The Husky was bred here and if you care to check any literature - a Husky is a social animal well capable of existing in these temperatures as long as you take care. I became a member of the world Husky owners association and took advice from them regarding diet, training heat exhaustion etc etc. He was examined by the vet every month and was in excellent condition for a 2 year old. The fact that he had began barking was solely down to the fact that the neighbours arrived with their OE sheepdog and when it whined as cars were passing Rocky would want to join in. If you had cared to ask or notice I took Rocky out in the car every aday and he walked for miles on the beech. He did his toilet up the valley

bevhills


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 55

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 14:04

Just get you facts right Tony and be careful what you write. rocky was never a status symbol. just get it right you are pi***d off cos no one on the site can abide you. Strange how everyone can get on so well except you, Maybe Rocky was at times (twice in 2 years) a little noisy - nothing compared to the actions of a domestic animal to that of an apparenty educated idiot like you. What was it Tony 6 months of hell 20 feet away from my doorstep with cement mixers pneumatic drills, dust noise etc etc and not one word of complaint from me. You upset all of our neighbous - and then yo decide to rehearse a band on your doorstep 20 feet from my front door in the height of summer, i had to close all of my doors to keep the noise out - but not one complaint. You speak of considerate neighbours. I wish I had one.This was suppose to be a post about irresponsible dog owners not an opportunity for you to show what a selfish, arrogant, inconsiderate person you are

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 14:22

Hmm good post bevhills

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 19:37

Tango, you must have been very luck to take on all those street dogs and not have any problems. My friends have kennels and when we visit them i am amazed at the behaviour of some dogs. Lots of rescue dogs have issues. I am sceptical that your four are the perfect dogs. Dogs are like small kids they do things they shouldn't how ever well trained they are.



Vikki, don't give up hope i am sure Bob will come home. those of us who know you and Bob, know your not a bad owner!

Tango1


Joined: 19/02/2011
Posts: 1151

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 19:52

Blade, yes we have been lucky with our four, mostly I suppose because two of them certainly had a dreadful time before they turned up at our place. One was starved virtually to death and somebody had obviously tried to strangle her with fuse wire, another had clearly been beaten to within an inch of her life. They're not perfect but initially the thread was about dogs roaming wasn't it?

neylandboy1


Joined: 27/02/2009
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 20:32

Ref msg 10. I know who your post is aimed at, TonyE and let me tell you that Rocky the husky, recognised in your post, had probably the best life a dog could expect. He was a devoted and trusted friend and was treated like a member of the family as a son or daughter would be, you are a very sad person if you perceived anything else! Rocky had a short but enjoyable life and was well able to put up with the hot temps here in summer. Anyone who met him could see that he was a well loved and cared for by his owners. You should be ashamed of your statements, probably made out of jealousy. NB1

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 20:36

Message 33.Your dog barked,whined,and howled continuously day/night when you went out and left it,and you must admit you were out an awful lot.We had 4 hour barking marathons.It was actually quieter when the sheepdog arrived.Other people have told you this but you are in denial preferring to listen to your sycophantic friends.Now,as you have made it very personal,what about the karaoke played at full volume 'till 2 in the morning in your "bar"? then the singing until 3AM, the slamming of the car doors as your drunken friends depart at 4.45 AM ?

And re this afternoon's little spat...I will warn you publicly that if you ever accost me in the street as you did today making threats of physical harm to my person, or attempt to carry them out, I will have the police down on you with a charge of assault. As an ex-plod you may think you can act the heavy but that will cut no ice when you try to "rough up" another ex-pat because you have your inability to manage your pets exposed.

TonyE

Babrew


Joined: 15/09/2010
Posts: 486

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 21:12

going back to message........? oh I dont know it willl take me all evening to find it again. Anyway as another message answered its not often we brits take on dogs but they take on us, turn up in our garden on our patio and run to you like they have loved you for years. Too soft we are.

vikkicm


Joined: 17/05/2011
Posts: 158

Message Posted:
13/06/2011 22:27

back to the top

bevhills


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 55

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 00:17

Tony E.

You attacked me on an open forum and dont expect a response. My so called accost was to tell you. you were bang out of order . I will leave the post open for people to comment. If you are a spineless yellow livered person unable to stand up for himself then thats not my problem. I have had 32 years in the Police as you refer to THE PLOD and learnt how to deal with people like you.Let everyone else make their comments known and not me. I lost my dog to a snake bite and you choose to attack me on this forum and yet are unable to accept the truth. I will not enter into any further dialogue. this was a forum about missing dogs and irresponsible owners . Get a life Tony - im sorry Tony but you are way out of order, and then you try to justify yourself with comments about my friends having a good social life at my place, sorry Tony but once again you were happy with this until you decided to become unsociable. I will make sure any party I have the music end at 12mn. End of...

philbailey


Joined: 17/01/2011
Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 00:24

An ex-copper?

is this exchange land he lives on

just curious

neylandboy1


Joined: 27/02/2009
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 09:43

I am one of bevhills sycophantic drunken friends and have regularly attended his party's. I used to see you there TonyE, Not invited anymore? Sour grapes??? NB1

corbytown


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 10:11

Elkiton

A man loses his best friend (part of the family has been mentioned) and you choose a time like this to air your thoughts?

Anyone who knew Rocky knows that he was a well trained,cared for and very loved dog.

TheFiver


Joined: 09/01/2011
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 10:19

TonyE



I can't comment on issues relating to Rocky when he was 'left' at home on his own but can say that the Rocky we knew was a highly intellegent and much loved dog. Bevhills often passed our gaff with him on his way to the beach so to say he was never taken for a walk is totally incorrect.



As for the parties, if you have/had an issue why didn't you say something at the time?



I only use Cyprus44 to see what is For Sale, to see who is performing and where, and any important issues. I rarely respond to the garbage most people put on these forum's as I can only assume most people who write such trash don't have any friends, dislike the sun and prefer sitting in front of a computer in a darkened room. On this occasion thought I felt the need to respond but will now revert to occasional use again.



Have a nice day...!!!



PS: I don't own a dog....

blade


Joined: 19/06/2010
Posts: 1286

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 12:02

Maybe before taking a dog on in the TRNC people need to consider the time, money and energy it takes in being a dog owner. It 's not just take it in and feed it. This thread has made it clear that many people don't think with their heads before making the commitment.

So please everyone before rescuing a dog take a deep breath and remember a dog is for life.

DonnaCon


Joined: 14/06/2011
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 15:21

I too am one of Bevs 'sycophantic, drunken friends' who knew the fantastic relationship between him and Rocky.

Firstly, I would like to ask, do you have no life out here? As it seems to me that all you do is watch your neighbours and their dogs daily activities! May I make a suggestion that you should have even less of a life and observe a little more closely, as then you may have gotten your facts regarding Rocky being exercised/slapped etc right!

Secondly, dogs do bark, especially if they hear other dogs barking. How do you know it's because he was lonely, did you go over and ask him? What an absurd comment to make!

Thirdly, we could all have the misfortune of finding a 'pal' in the form of a snake, these thing happen and can sometimes be unavoidable. Fortunately for Bev, I believe he must have seen that you were potentially one of these 'pals' and gave you a wide birth.

Finally I find both the bad language and personal verbal attack in exceedingly poor taste!

hugh191


Joined: 18/05/2011
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 17:27

I was so incensed by message 10! My husband and I have been priviledged to know both Bev and Rocky very well in the past 2 years. We can honestly say, we have never known a dog to be both cared for and loved as much as Rocky was by Bev.

We also have a dog (Scrappy) who we have taken to Bevs on numerous occasions to play with Rocky. Furthermore, Bev has taken care of Scrappy for 2 weeks once when we went back to the U.K. Scrappy thoroughly enjoyed being with Bev and Rocky and was always delighted when we took him for visits, and more than happy to be left there. Not once was there any indication from Scrappy as to any neglect/abuse.

Bev and myself also have a friend Jenny who has a dog (Scamp) and she has asked me to mention that on several occasions Bev took Rocky to hers to play with Scamp so as not to be left alone...once again, an indication of a caring, responsible owner.

To close, I think this forum should be for personal opinions, not personal attacks!

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 17:28

This thread is now closed.



I agree with the last line above.





Harold

hugh191


Joined: 18/05/2011
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
14/06/2011 18:41

I was so incensed by message 10! My husband and I have been priviledged to know both Bev and Rocky very well in the past 2 years. We can honestly say, we have never known a dog to be both cared for and loved as much as Rocky was by Bev.

We also have a dog (Scrappy) who we have taken to Bevs on numerous occasions to play with Rocky. Furthermore, Bev has taken care of Scrappy for 2 weeks once when we went back to the U.K. Scrappy thoroughly enjoyed being with Bev and Rocky and was always delighted when we took him for visits, and more than happy to be left there. Not once was there any indication from Scrappy as to any neglect/abuse.

Bev and myself also have a friend Jenny who has a dog (Scamp) and she has asked me to mention that on several occasions Bev took Rocky to hers to play with Scamp so as not to be left alone...once again, an indication of a caring, responsible owner.

To close, I think this forum should be for personal opinions, not personal attacks!