Et tu Brute - Right to Reply

cornish



Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 14:50

Dear Erolz

I've just been made aware of various attacks on me on the Cyprus44 website.

1. As you stated to me that your only interest in the Arriva/6m debate is one of accuracy and that you have no 'axe to grind' perhaps you'd like to point out ...

2. Why would it cross my mind to mention that I posted insupport of having 6m's banned when posting as cornish? I don't hide the fact of my real name to anyone, unlike some who post.

3. You failed to mention that I said to you that the story was not really about the Arriva/6m spat but about the general abuse of the board as seen by some - hence the follow up story about Hans Doelman/Dutch Crusader.

4. As promised to you, I had your email to the Star publish on my request - hardly the act of a 'partial' observer.(although Erolz said he didn't require this)

5. As a matter of interest; I have never claimed to be a journalist, merely a reporter.

Kind Regards

Jack Lobb

cornish



Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 15:08

There should have been more but I lost my internet connection ..... just as well - least said, as they say



but still looking for interesting stories/anecdotes



Be safe out there....



regs - jack

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 15:15

Cornish - Jack Lobb



'funny' how you wish to address ErolZ, but have neglected to respond - either by email or in the open re your ( totally ) unprofessional conduct



In that you :



1/ slurred the owner / mods of CY44 for allowing THE TRUTH to be posted..



2/ you wrote the article and then asked for me to comment on it - AFTER it was published - not checking it's accuracy with the very person you've merely repeated a fibs about..worse still, you had posted on here BEFORE the article - so you'd have known THE TRUTH.



3/ Worse still you LIED about why you hadn't written to me beforehand

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 15:24

Must be like Christmas morning for you this mmmmmm

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 15:25

Message2.



Zerobrain is back from the pub !

Troodo


Joined: 12/06/2008
Posts: 1002

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 15:40

mm, are you on the dole?

cyprusLulz


Joined: 01/08/2011
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 16:04

A journalist collects and disseminates information about current events, people, trends, and issues.

His or her work is acknowledged as journalism.



<< Reporters are one type of journalist. << They create reports or articles as a profession for broadcast or publication in mass media such as newspapers, television, radio, magazines, documentary film, or the Internet. Reporters cultivate sources for their work, their reports can be either spoken or written



>> and they are often expected to report in the most objective and unbiased way to serve the public good. <<



A polemical journalist combines reportage with personal opinion.



Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist



http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6037678796_ffa5ba4b95_b.jpg as an example is not factual and since it is a follow up on a previous article containing half truths it could be constued as nothing more than an advert imho

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 16:30

OB.



I ignore spam.

cornish



Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 186

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 16:51

Dear Mark,



Just sent to 6m

I notice your reluctance to communicate with me directly but I did notice a comment from you in one of your various postings saying that you were surprised to see the email of Erolz appear in Cyprus Star ref: Arriva/6m but not your own. Well I certainly have never received anything from you and to my current knowledge neither has the Star Newspaper. If you can send to me or the newspaper by Monday, I will of course try to get it published.



Kind Regards



Jack Lobb aka cornish

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 16:57

Jack that would be his way of trying to discredit you or say you are bias,in saying he has sent you emails,id bet my last dollar he sent nothing.

One of his agendas is only to try and discredit people or businesses.



He may well have alot more,im sure!

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 17:03

Well done Jack,



I have to admit a lot of respect for you and what you are doing now.



You have been working in the TRNC for a long time now doing different projects and it is good that at last there is someone who is prepared to put his heart and soul into this new venture , and great that you admit not being a Journalist.



What I think EXPATS are interested in is in what is happening on the island, lets be honest most people get the Cyprus Today and Living Magazine and go straight to the Social Scene and then read rest of paper/magazine. So I think its a good idea to give more of a spotlight on what Expats are doing with their time etc rather than the 'Business' people as most are retired and enjoying life and not really interested in sky high prices for new furniture/Kitchen designs etc.



I do wish you well in this paper and hope though that relevant facts are reported on regarding property issues as all seems to be quiet at the moment- after all Jack you are in a prime pos

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 17:45

Angus you're back!



Look mate I ken for a fact you read the sports pages of the number one Cyprus publication.



So less of the sucking up!

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 18:24

Jack



You wrote an article that was published in the Star that I felt was both inaccurate and missed out relevant points. I worte to the star saying this, who passed the email to you and you then emailed me directly offering to meet and assuring me of your and the Stars commitment to accurate and balanced reporting.



I was and am dispointed that at no time during that meeting did you mention that you had already personaly expressed strong views on the whole issue on cyprus44 and were yourself a customer of Paul's. You may feel that such 'disclosure' was not relevant or necessary. I feel differently. I think it would have been fairer to have made such facts clear to me at the meeting. When I became aware of them after the meeting I was disapointed and said so here. If you feel that me doing this is unfair then I appologise but such does not change the feeling of disapointment that I did and do feel.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 18:26

maybe you should just "Lobb" off ??

cyprusLulz


Joined: 01/08/2011
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 18:28

As always a fair accurate and well written post by erol



Fess up Cornish why did you not disclose you were a customer of pauls ??



you profess to be a reporter



>> and they are often expected to report in the most objective and unbiased way to serve the public good. <<





Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 18:29

I do appreciate that my email to the Star was itself published by them and if you say that was because of you then I see no reason to disbelieve that. I am not saying that your are being impartial. I am saying that from my perspective it would have been more honest and open to have disclosed your previous history of comments on cyprus44 and that you were yourself a customer of Pauls and that failing to do so disapointed me. Maybe such things should not disapoint me but I can only speak honestly and opnely about how I feel on the matter and I did and do feel disapointed.



On the issue of journalist or reporter I am afraid the distinction between the two escapes me to be honest.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 20:05

Cornish,



if you are going to TRY to fib your way out of incompetence or wilfully trying to deceive you'll have to get up a lot earlier..



Think quickly, as I will post our correspondence with incontrovertible EVIDENCE of the time and date in public place



FACT: you wrote to me AFTER the article had been published, claiming" the email had been in drafts" -due to an internet problem..seems to be a fav 'excuse' of yours ))



Members- whether you might currently doubt as to who is telling the truth - if Cornish wants - he can be 'hung out to dry'..



To make matters worse.. when Cornish sent me the first email.. it was IMMEDIATELY forwarded to ErolZ and any incoming/outgoing email is stored in 4 different places and two different email servers concurrently !



Cornish... it's over to you.. a spot of advice.. when in a hole.. stop digging ...

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 20:10

BTW I think you'll find you title thread is going to backfire, too.. I note - for the third time.. that you haven't covered MY right to reply ;)



Sighs... and shakes head - Cornish when you tell a lie.. about times of sending / receiving emails you'll be undone if it's challenged.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 20:13

@ msg 20, Erolz: (...) On the issue of journalist or reporter I am afraid the distinction between the two escapes me to be honest. (...)



▶ Some clearification: there IS no difference. In general journalists (working free lance or employed) are reporting or do their work at a desk. The right title for Mr Jack Lobb is contributor or correspondent.

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
14/08/2011 23:04

Well said micklark it is getting rather stupid to say the least!

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 01:16

What did micklark say ?





I just can't keep up

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 01:47

Turtle - you and me both

micklark


Joined: 18/06/2011
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 07:20

My post was deleted I said to the effect they are a lot of idiots and has the sun fried their brains,

no swearing or use of bad words

Just goes to show how this board is moderated nowadays,

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 10:40

I note Cornish has gone 'Trappist' and I gave him time to respond re my msg 17/18 - in that OF COURSE I responded...



Any readers still not bored to death can get here:



http://grandeassiette.blog.com/2011/08/15/who-is-fibbing-the-facts-you-decide/



Cornish / Jack Lobb - I'm going to leave this to the members to decide...

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 10:50

I've suggested to Jack that HE writes to OSN quoting the details of his OSN receiver and asking if he stands a risk of losing his subscription ;)

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 10:56

Interestingly 6ms resents being attacked on this forum.hmmm.



Goes around comes around!

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 10:58

self obsessed or what

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:01

Magicart,



re 26



Thanks for your objective, well-reasoned response - quoting references to 'back you up' !!!



I'm quite SURE you haven't taken the time to read the poof from OSN - that demonstrates that I am - and always have been correct in my advice, and that therefore - correctly - I'd defend myself - not 'attack' someone with fibs in response...



I'm sure, you'll re- read the article and articulate for us EXACTLY where you can find 'fault' ))

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:02

Suggest you write to SKY UK and ask them for a copy of there terms and conditions.



Think you will find they have the right to remove transmission in the TRNC.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:02

re msg 27



Same applies to you, Pugwash... ;)

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:04

mmmmmm, can you not take this off the board, it is very boring and most people are really not interested in your continuous prattling.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:07

re 29,MagicArt



Thanks for re-reading the article and commenting with valid responses..



>>Suggest you write to SKY UK and ask them for a copy of there terms and conditions.

Think you will find they have the right to remove transmission in the TRNC. <<



SKY would say they only have the rights to show in UK / Ireland ... and I would remind you about the case before the European Court of Justice, and the legal opinion given by the Advocate General, re the right of EU citizens to enjoy EU broadcasts across the EU... we are discussing an ARAB TV service, here so that wouldn't apply..



Moreover, I've not seen folks dropping links / advertising they were official SKY dealers or charging more for a package than SKY, do .. penny dropping, yet ?!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:08

Hattikins:



This is EXACTLY what those who have used the media to spread fibs and misinfo WANT... !

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:13

re msg 10



A zero - sadly, I didn't notice you were taking bets... :(

cyprusLulz


Joined: 01/08/2011
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:14

hattikins



It may be boring to you now BUT if mark did not wan and members lost their satellite tv service because of misinformation by one or more members I am sure it would not be boring to them.



This has happened mark was one of the few who warned against Gary Robb and aga he was pilloried& banned for it and the rest is history.



Yet again Mark posts the truth and the uneducated or those with a vested interest attack.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:18

I know we don't have to read any of the posts on this board, but I agree with Hattikins. I do not see this thread as a warning for all of us living here, but it seems to be a personal grievance/battle that is being enacted here. Shame, as it is this kind of thread that is ruining the board for a lot of people who are leaving, and sad to say the Administrators are of the opinion this all freedom of speech may continue.

Yes, by all mean,s but if it is killing the board for the very people for whom it exists, is that fair procedure.

iam sure if there are warnings to be made there are other sources available.

But I guess, Hattikins we are in the minority.

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:18

Taken from the Sky Terms and Conditions of Contract.



Question,



Can I subscribe to the SKY service.



Answer.



Yes,if you are 18 or over and the service are only used at your home in either the UK or Republic of Ireland.



I simple terms Arriva are operating no differentley to Sky apart from the fact that 6ms is doing his best to bring it to the attention of OSN and to close Arriva's business.

Ridle


Joined: 01/01/2009
Posts: 144

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:19

Well said hattikins.



just a pain in the butt.



6ms must just sit all day long at his keyboard & all he is doing is boring eveyrone to death.



Why does he keep repeating himself? we have heard it all before.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:27

MagicArt- I refer you to my answer of msg 32



Marion - re msg 36



When we see a long list of disgruntled Dopi and AGA clients - I'd remind you that I got banned for posting FACT..



If I can save one person from being out of pocket - esp. when I see inaccurate info posted, about something I REALLY know about - as an "inducement to buy - with 'guarantees' " - I surely respond .... :(

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:31

"Yet again Mark posts the truth and the uneducated or those with a vested interest attack."



I am neither of those, what I am is sick of seeing this board being ruined by constant postings by egotistical people who actually believe that they are important and that people are interested in their point scoring.



Most people on here are more than capable of choosing their own tv package and if they get it wrong I'm sure they will live with it so please can we not give it a rest.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:31

Ridle,



THIS thread is about a reader demonstrating he had a right of reply ..



You CLEARLY aren't interested in that 'right' or the truth or facts.. If this thread bores you, I'm sorry, but I don't believe it is breaking a rule.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:39

Hattikins



>>I am is sick of seeing this board being ruined by constant postings by egotistical people who actually believe that they are important and that people are interested in their point scoring.

<<



'egotistical' people?



I don't believe my view is any more or less important than yours... I posted a link in response to misleading info / fibs posted here and elsewhere.



Your point

>>most people on here are more than capable of choosing their own tv package and if they get it wrong I'm sure they will live with it<<



assumes you are capable but some aren't...



This didn't start off as a debate about the merits of different TV packages - it all started off about claims made to promote that weren't truthful.



You chose to post here, but haven't commented on the issue, itself.. are YOU deciding what is 'boring' ?!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:46

You are boring, you are like a dog with a bone. The place to argue this is surely through private emails, local papers or even face to face if possible, but there is no need for it to be on every TRNC notice board. In life people will often say things about someone else that they don't agree with, or even may not be true, just get over it for Gods sake and stop acting like a spoiled child.

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 11:47

There are many inaccutate postings on this forum but you seem to have an obsession with Arriva/Dopi to such an exstent that by your own addmission you have contacted OSN which in my view was just a malicious act.



"This peoples champion" balony no longer washes with me and dont forget I was one of your supporter sometime ago.As for your predictions:



-Dopi are still trading and taking on new buisness

-Arriva are still trading and have a very loyal customer base.

-Some of Arriva's customers are in their 2nd and 3rd year subcriptioms.



All this dispite your feeble attempts to close down these companies.



One final observation "What would happen if Arriva decided to contact Sky as you did with Osn".



If they did I would also view this as a malicious act but knowing the owner as I do he would'nt be so vindictive

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:00

No mmmmmm this is you to a tee,



self-obsessed

adj. The act of being constantly preoccupied with the thought of yourself and everything in this world that involves you or should involve you. A self-obsessed individual is someone who just can't help thinking and talking about themselves.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:15

@ Hattikins



re 43



>>You are boring, you are like a dog with a bone.<<



If I'm 'boring' ignore me..



>>The place to argue this is surely through private emails, local papers or even face to face if possible..<<



Nothing to 'argue about - I simply posted chronological sequence of events elsewhere and posted a link here ..



>> In life people will often say things about someone else that they don't agree with, or even may not be true, just get over it for Gods sake and stop acting like a spoiled child. <<



Wow ! Who's feeling 'important' enough to 'lecture' me, now.. ?! Unlike you. I don't believe I've broken any rules ;)

cyprusLulz


Joined: 01/08/2011
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:17

Message 44



This is just what people said when 6xm kept warning of Gary Robb & Aga time proved him right as it will again.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:28

re 44



I readily admit to contacting OSN - but it was not a 'malicious act' I used my own name and email address - what is 'malicious' about countering a fib ?



Jack Lobb has now posted on his column in the CY Star that Washerman IS legally allowed to distribute OSN in Cyprus .. I suppose sending a cutting of that to OSN and asking for a comment - as a counter to find the TRUTH?



Re Dopi - Did they or did they not have to move their sat feed ( now twice) , as I foretold..



Did they or did they not have 'issues; during the World Cup - as I foretold..



Do Dopi have OSN -Showtime any more? [ shh.. Washerman foretold this , too - was that an 'attack' ) ]



Do they have the much vaunted BBC / ITV they promised.. ;)))



As for Washerman's "OSN service" - I'm confident you will be apologising for all of this ..;) I KNOW - you don't...



I note you don' comment about the validity of Jack Lobbs posts that he contacted me but I never replied..



SKY? msg 46....

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:32

re 45



Pugwash



Please explain how I was 'thinking of myself' when I post re AGA, Dopi, the CY prob, property issues..?



One of these days I might get a reasoned response with examples to 'prove' your contention - in the meantime I'll happily respond to your one-liners that are devoid of same... :(

magicart


Joined: 05/10/2008
Posts: 985

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:36

A blind man could have predicted the GR outcome!



What we are talking about here is an obsessional attack on two private business's and the fact that CY44 continue to allow it to happen.



I notice he has made no comment on the illegal operation of Sky in the TRNC and what would happen if it was brought to the attention of Sky-like he did with OSN



If he continues with his antics he runs the risk of closing both SKY and OSN in the TRNC.



Thats my prediction!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:48

re 50



MagicArt



>>A blind man could have predicted the GR outcome! <<



'Funny, but your words sound overly glib wearing the rose-tinted spacs.. I had a LOT of posters - just like you who thought I was wrong..



>>What we are talking about here is an obsessional attack on two private business's and the fact that CY44 continue to allow it to happen. <<



Could that be because I'm RIGHT ?



>>I notice he has made no comment on the illegal operation of Sky in the TRNC <<



Responded many times - you asked - I respond.. msg 32 ( not 46 ) is a 'clue'..



>>If he continues with his antics he runs the risk of closing both SKY and OSN in the TRNC. <<



) Folk taking SKY, paying the going rate, using their own bank accounts and not using companies that overcharge or don't made claims for officialdom are hardly going to get cut off..



Folks using Washerman's OSN are relatively easy to trace... How can SKY trace an end user ?



and.. I'll remind you of msg 32

Pugwash


Joined: 06/09/2010
Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:53

mmmmmm,



If you think that what you do on this board and other boards is in any way "normal" then you should really seek some professional help. Yes the initial mentioning of a "problem" or issue perceived or not is fine and can be at times welcome, but your obsessive hounding of certain people, companies, their ideas or notions is rather strange and worrying as is your current obsession with Mr Lobb.

For a Country that you insist "does not exist" with a "border" that isn't there and all its problems you are a man so obsessed with it that you are unable to leave it alone even from afar. Your claim to be a champion of the consumer is frankly as another poster said wearing rather thin.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:54

MagicArt



Your statements just get more 'silly' - anyone would think you want this thread closed?



It would be just GREAT if Jack Lobb could respond....

ang1706


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 570

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 12:59

In late 2001 I was living in Fuengirola and some clown had been in touch with Sky about all the Bars on the Costa Del Sol using Sky to show sport, Skys response- they moved their satellite a touch higher so those involved had to pay for stronger receivers and more larger dishes.



Sky can move the 'footprint' so be very careful if you have spent a lot of money on a 3 metre dish and strong receiver etc!



mmmmmm is correct in his facts about OSN, I live in Beirut and had OSN but for some strange reason my pirate satellite replaced it with Star Movies etc and have to say much better.



By the way I pay $100 a year and have 148 stations of which 38 are English speaking, including Sky Sports 1,2+3, Sky News, BBC News, BBC Prime and Lifestyle also have a host of US Stations but yes they are cr8p!

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 13:15

I'm totally with Hattikins - this should be conducted via personal e.mails - it is clearly a personal issue being conducted via this forum; both protagonists trying to crush the character of the other in public...IF anyone else has problems with whatever it is they are arguing about, they can then take the matter up with whomever...I am surprised the moderators allow these threads...

mistymoppet


Joined: 29/07/2011
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 13:22

It seems to me that both sides are as bad as each other, If just one of them was grown up enough not to respond and others on the forum ignored any comments just like kids they would soon get bored in not getting a reaction and the problem would be solved.



Just ignore the posts don't get involved they will get no attention end of story

cyprusLulz


Joined: 01/08/2011
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 13:32

ang1706 message 54 a breath of fresh air.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 14:13

re msg 54



>>In late 2001.. some clown had been in touch with Sky about all the Bars on the Costa Del Sol using Sky to show sport, Skys response- they moved their satellite a touch higher so those involved had to pay for stronger receivers and more larger dishes. <<



Assuredly, SKY did not 'move' any satellites - they DID move some stns on to new transponders - but if one is determined to 'take the risk' toget SKY or BBC / ITV in that part of southern Spain one still can..10 years on..



>>Sky can move the 'footprint' so be very careful if you have spent a lot of money on a 3 metre dish and strong receiver etc! <<



SKY sports stuff - in HD - can be received just about all over Europe - and I don't think that's an 'accident'



The free to air stuff - such as BBC / ITV need a bigger dish and when ASTRA - not SKY - launched Astra 2D they went onto it as it is lowered powered - hence CHEAPER.. this wasn't SKY doing anything.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 14:16

You STILL 'only' need a 1.8m to get nearly all SKY sourced content across Europe.. you need monster dishes to get the FREE - non-encrypted stuff - their being on lower powered stuff is simply saving money - nothing to do with preventing folk in Cyprus / Spain receiving..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 14:58

re msg 52, Pugwash





>>Yes the initial mentioning of a "problem" or issue perceived or not is fine and can be at times welcome, but your obsessive hounding of certain people, companies, their ideas or notions is rather strange and worrying as is your current obsession with Mr Lobb. <<



You got THAT the wrong way round.. Mr Lobb is obsessed with promoting a company and telling porkies about the board and me. you didn't bother to read the link ..



>>For a Country that you insist "does not exist" with a "border" that isn't there and all its problems you are a man so obsessed with it that you are unable to leave it alone even from afar. Your claim to be a champion of the consumer is frankly as another poster said wearing rather thin.<<



1/ I'm not insisting - I repeat the de jure facts.. 'obsession' could just as easily be those who chose to ignore ;)



2/ I am not 'claiming' anything - your words - please re-read what I said, quote it and we can discuss - sensibly..

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 15:20

Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD), also called anankastic personality disorder, is a personality disorder, characterized by perfectionism, rigid conformity to self-imposed rules and regulations, strict adherence to moral and ethical code, and a generally inflexible personality structure.

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 15:24

The last paragraph is so telling,



OCPD

Deeply embedded personality style of perfectionism and need to do things "the right way" causing levels of anxiety when not followed

Need to control self, others and external environment

Belief that the need for order, following procedures and their own moral code is normal and appropriate

Begins by early adult life



Doing things wrong (or seeing them done wrong) generates considerable anxiety, so part of what drives this person is the need to avoid being wrong. This personality is marked by rigidity and stubbornness. They are also often perceived by others as self-righteous, and difficult.



To them, their way is so obviously correct that righteous indignation springs forth readily when matters are not conducted according to their inflexible expectations. They are often unusually deferential to those they consider worthy of respect, but utterly contemptuous of those they do not.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 15:37

))



Pugwash



Troodo wants to know if I'm an the dole and according to you I'm a basket-case ... if I could just remind you of what this thread is about - Cornish's right of reply..



If you THINK about it - your post might just as easily apply to you ;)

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 15:54

You seem to be getting very anxious over cornish not replying to you mmmmmm



I believe he thinks he has replied hence his posts no 1, 2 and 9

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 16:04

Hi Pugwash





IF he REALLY thought I hadn't replied - I'm QUITE sure he 'knows'...now..



I'm 'anxious' for Cornish to admit I DID respond and address the other inconsistencies, he posted on here and elsewhere



To remind you - he hasn't just misrepresented me. He had a pop at the mods - who ARE aware of some of the things he said... I think they might be as interested to hear from Cornish, too

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 16:49

Hi Pugwash



I note you are determined to get me to ruin GinaC's thread so I'll post a response on here to



msg 36 http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/71139.asp



ErolZ seems to have been 'tainted' by members such as yourself - simply because he agreed with me on some techie issues and as to FACTS re who said what...



Now I note you state he 'is on GinaC's case... '



Can you tell us who 'they' are or better still write and list 'them' to the mods - as while you stand NO chance of 'silencing me' responding to your nonsense - I don't want this board to lose a TC who has much to offer and is the voice of reason.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 16:53

(cont)



ErolZ and I have managed to disagree on many things Cyprus over the years but we can mange to be civil and I ( and I'm sure many other members ) am the better for his input...



I don't care what you think of me.. but I DO care what you are alluding to re HIM....

Pugwash


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 16:58

Gosh protecting your buddy, how noble.



Read the other thread if you want answers, or are you getting anxious again?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 16:59

(cont)



Pugwash





did you ( or GinaC) notice that the threads that get closed down involve YOU, too ?... In fact I'm now wondering WHO has the 'agenda' here...



I can understand - you trying to 'provoke' me....is 'entertaining' [ good luck ;) ] but 'picking on' ErolZ.. ???????

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 17:05

re 68



I'm not 'protecting' ErolZ ... I noted his comment that he might not bother to help.. I'm actually worried he might be serious... THAT would be a BAD thing for this forum



I'm not going to chance being accused of being involved in 'ruining' GinaC's thread..



I hope you might notice the msg from JimmyG ...



Responding to you seems to bring threads to premature end, so I'm going to let you think / have the field for a while, as Cornish must be praying this thread gets closed....

erolz


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 17:15

Just for the record I drift in and out of forums periodicaly. I have done it with this forum historicaly and others and no doubt will continue to do so in the future. Long long experience of using such forums has taught me that the best thing to do if you feel there is no longer a 'point' to particpating in a forum is to just stop posting. Experience has taught me that 'announcing' you are leaving a forum and giving your reasons why is never benefical to you or the forum, so my appraoch is I just stop posting.



Ironically I think one of the things that has kept me going so long this time round on Cyprus44, is a sense of 'bullying' behaviour from some with the specific objective to 'silence' and or 'undermine' certain voices on the forum and an inherent reluctance to 'give in' to such bullying.

cyprusLulz


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Posts: 113

Message Posted:
15/08/2011 17:20

Erol top guy ignore the dross and ignoramus WE are with you http://twitter.com/#!/AnonymousWiki might see you at the black olive again I will bring some cash next time .

magicart


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 18:23

6ms..



Have you recently been banned for life from a new forum.



If you have- why?

lovingcyprus


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 18:24

Whats up with you magicart trouble making again?????????????????

magicart


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 18:34

Not at all-6ms says he always deals with facts so I'm looking forward to his explanation.



Not going to throw rocks at you lovingcyprus and I wish you a good life.



Thanks



Art

vincent1


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 18:38

Magicart.



Did you really think that considering Mark's previous with AJ that he would last very long on that forum ?



He couldn't wait to ban him.



Keep up the good work Mark, you have many supporters here on 44.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 18:39

UPDATE: Jack Lobb responded by email and claims he never had the mails that are TO him and were copied to everyone else.. Funny thing is that for the second time he responded using the reply to feature )))))





Even though I have posted screen grabs - *I* am "talking nonsense"... he confirms who is his internet provider and who provides his computer maintenance - yet he plainly has 'internet problems and 'loses' email quite often ..!!



You'll NEVER guess which company he uses.... ))



This thread should be put to death, now.. Mr J Lobb tells me there is going to be a part three and I miss the point it's really about the inability of CY44 mods !!!



But if he - having had my emails - fails to correct his earlier howlers - now claiming Washerman has rights to sell OSN ( of course I've reminded him of the truth - with evidence) , I fear we'll see another 'hatchet job'.. :(

philbailey


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 23:00

this should be televised



which way would be best?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 23:01

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/08/2011 23:02

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.