Great News for the travellers on Dale Farm

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 19:13

Great news for the residents from a compassionate judge.



http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16077101

Biggles


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 19:53

Great news in deed if they have all paid their council taxes, etc and the own the land or have paid rent?

moxie


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 19:53

im sure its a case of not on my doorstep

moxie


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 19:54

isnt the word PIKEY??? Travellers ..many moons ago

Quarmby


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 19:59

Not so good news for the legal residents of the area!

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:00

Land ownership a dodgy subject on here?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:05

Why pay rent when they own the land.



The council give one half planning permission and refused planning on the other half .



Seems crazy that the council have spent over £18 million of local peoples money trying to evict these people and there children ,Shocking.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:12

Lets hope they get a judicial review on thursday .

Linnyloos


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:13

This site is about 15 minutes away from where I live and they are a nuisense

BigMart


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:14

scrounging pikey scum. Get some taxes paid.

martinD41


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:15

Doesn't it all sound familiar.?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:15

Being scum is not a point of law



end of errand .

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:17

message 9



you could always sell up and move to TRNC ;)

newscoop


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:22

They should all 'sod' off back to Ireland and their real bricks and mortar houses.



Half the site was never designated for Pikeys.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:27

Im sure some TCs could say the same , thank the lord they do not !

madturk


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:29

Send in the taxman and the vat man , the site will empty quicker than the bailiffs can do it.

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:40

msg 16... very true, .....



Perhaps they should not have built with out planning etc... after all it is in GB and cannot be compared with NC!



Laws are already in place where as NC do not have the same structure or uphold the law as in GB...



Perhaps if NC were to uphold the laws as intended like they are trying to do at Dale Farm, a lot of people would not be made homeless or having the horrible problems they are encountering here !!.....

paddypony


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:43

The PC police wont let us call them Pikeys, Gippos, Tinkers etc. Oh no, they like to be called "Travellers" So why the hell don't they????

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 20:48

Fact..... most are Irish Tinkers....



True Romanies are not to be muddled up with the Irish that come over and set up where ever they fancy...

Most have houses they let out in Ireland.....

These travellers do not have a care for British justice or other peoples properties, so don't compare NC with the likes of them....

madturk


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:00

I work in Basildon doing landscaping, I get to see their standard of work and the money they rip off the elderly,

It's time you do gooders wake up take the wool out of your eyes and take them for what they are.

Crooks .

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:04

re msg 1



"Sky News understands this means he [the Judge] accepts the evictions are legal - but it is the way in which they are to be carried out that is still under dispute."



Fact: the residents bought the land and changed it's use - without permission



Image if farmers decided to build houses on land designated for agriculture - there are laws for a reason

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:05

When they've done news reports on these travellers you never see the men - why is that?

cavalryman


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:06

O maintenance irrespective if you own the land or no twithout planning permission you cannot extend.I want to build an extension the planners say no its the law.If I want to appeal I have to fund the appeal these people do not they have legal aid.They have been told for the last ten years they cannot extend and build.In this country if you want to build on your land can you build on 100% of that land? I think not If they want to live in the uk and pay their fair share of taxes lol !!! then they abide by the rules as you expect us to here.I wonder what would happen if they all turned up here and built where they wanted and did what they liked outside your property you would be so enamoured with their plight.

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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:06

They could be out grafting !

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:14

Anyone commenting on here

living on "exchange" land ?

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:17

msg 23



No one is disputing what you say and i surely have not.



Time to read post 7 once more !



Live n let live



msg 22



When they done the news reports on those travellers that your commenting about and the men where not there with the TV crews , maybe they where with this TV crew and Chav !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq_AhyQSaFw&feature=related

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:18

Message 25. Is there a relevance?

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:20

Out grafting.... give us a break.... Hiding from being identified ... Hiding behind women' s skirts.



These travellers do rip off many elderly people and threaten them if they don't pay up there and then!!



If they were to be allowed to build willy nilly, it opens up a flood gate for others to do just the same.. The council have no option but to evict...

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:23

interesting history on dale farm .



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Farm

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:24

You cannot tar all of them with the same brush !

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:24

"If they were to be allowed to build willy nilly, it opens up a flood gate for others to do just the same.. The council have no option but to evict..........."



..and the sooner the better!

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:25

Msg 27, just a little ironic

do you not think

land / building without permission

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:27

Did i post the link correct in message 29



i have not missed out any letters or numbers have i , is it working

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:29

philbailey



its very ironic



Im aching with laughter

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:32

Yes well said No1Doyen...



I just do not understand how any one can rejoice at this victory as they see it....



If you break the law you pay the consequences, but thats the problem with our society, it thinks every one 'owes' them .... These people are no different, grab whats not theirs... They knew that planning wasn't going to be given on that half.. They have it for part of the field, but think, lets grab a bit more ... Greed and unlawful....

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:36

I am glad all the posters

have sound morals

good and interesting thread

Omaintenance

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:37

http://www.caledonia.org.uk/land/gipsies.htm



good idea i think.



Or do as the German government do for travellers

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:38

It was posted to see how much racism was still around .



caravan loads of it i see

stelee77


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:42

There are loads of gypsy sites where i live, but they are all on the main drags out the way, no problems at all with them, i only hate the way they tie there horses up with about 10 ft of rope on the verges of the main roads, there is also the up and coming middle weight boxer billy jo saunders on one of these sites.

Tyson fury-pikey

paddy docherty, big brother winner-pikey



pikeys are having a good year.

newscoop


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:44

How is it racist to call a spade a spade? (oops)



They're not travellers, if they were they would travel.



I'm sure they could stay in Ireland and put up an illegal site there, why don't they?



Could it be because the Brits are a soft touch?



Any Pikeys in Bromley philbailey?

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:47

Now I am getting cross, its not racism to have a thoughts on how our GB is being run... Its racism now is it if you don't agree with something !!



Thats just trying to make us feel guilty to agree with our Laws?.... No way.....



Thats just saying human rights blah blah blah,..... no, these people are Irish Tinkers, not our true romanies who have lived here for decades .... And don't take the pish pout of our laws like these are ....

philbailey


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:48

Most in Sidcup and Swanley

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:49

oops should read ... trying to make us feel guilty 'who' agree with our laws

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:51

Tyson fury ,good chap , shame about his father.



Paddy docherty ,great chap .



OUCHH http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3429935/Tough-nut-from-Big-Fat-Gypsy-Weddings-Paddy-Doherty-pictured-after-a-beating-by-his-cousin.html

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:54

If you kept 4 cows in a caravan the animal rights people would be onto you.



Why not let these families live in there caravans !



Its only a bit of grass .



You cant eat it or spend it or even smoke it !

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:56

Now you have diverted away from the main subject...



Couldn't care less if they beat the hell out of each other, but they should not be given into regarding post No1....



Just go ask a true Gypsy what they think of this!....

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 21:59

The true Gypsy people are from the Punjab



I shall go down the curry house tomorrow and ask riaz



http://indiaculture.net/talk/messages/128/11854.html?1288706664

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:01

Also on racism as its been brought up.... did you know that these Irish Tinkers call us 'Gorja' people, and they are not allowed to marry the Gorga people? it is frowned upon in their circles?



If thats not racism I don't know what is.....

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:02

'Zero', best you deal with the issues you raised and the simple fact that the issue isn't whether it is right to enforce the law - it is HOW it is to be enforced..

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:02

Wrong, Amanda wrong...

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:05

As always in a thread it gets side tracked , thanks for bringing it back on track mark ;)



But with the total cost being around £18 million in tax payers money it could of been cheaper to offer an alternative site or ?



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/09/26/dale-farm-travellers-win-latest-round-of-high-court-legal-battle-115875-23447897/



how shall it be enforced and how many more millions spent !

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:06

"It was posted to see how much racism was still around"



It's nothing to do with Racism - they are on land that doesn't belong to them.

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:08

One school of thought is that Gypsies descended from Josephs tribes, as the story inthe bible says one disappeared from Egypt! Some say the term Gypsy is derived from the word 'Egyptian, or even from a Greek village called 'Gyppe'.



Nobody really knows ...

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:11

Yes this thread was about living on land with out planning etc... not racism or where Gypsies originated from...



had my say,... its made me very cross.... now I shall go and kick the carpet ...

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:12

I know them lot in the south might get brought into it



msg 52



some of the land belongs to them ,can they all not fit onto the plot that they own !!

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:15

What about all them Romanichals trespassing on other peoples land ;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:18

Zero, it is the tactic of the illegal site dwellers to ramp up the costs- hoping that the bean counters will call a halt..





AGAIN, they broke the law... and that section of land is NOT designated for use as a site for dwellings



Suggest they are sent a proportion of the legal bill ( presumably costs are yet to be decided) as if they had paid extra they COULD have bought land where they COULD have settled.



Naturally, the question is WHERE will they live, if moved off the illegal section - but they shouldn't have tried to settle at Dale Farm ..



YES, this is costly, but they have ( nearly ) exhausted all legal routes - I wonder why they don't try to get the law changed ?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:22

Message 55. They could stack the Caravans on top of each other on the 'legal' land.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:23

Im 0 m , not zero.



Well we agree on one thing , of course its stalling tactics and really we should not blame the travellers , its the lawyers who find the little loopholes to open up and use and keep the case ongoing ,they are getting paid,win win win situation for the lawyers .



The travellers just want there field , bit like some of the folk of cyprus in a way !

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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:25

message 58



that would be a little bit like a jewish cemetry would'nt it?

westender


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:32

Google "Rathkeale travellers", a lot of the land & houses in this Southern Ireland town is owned by these so called travellers & the reason you never see the men? They don't want to be identified by HMRC, I know because I used to work for Inland Revenue & it was very hard to bring them to justice.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:37

westender



What Dept within the IR did you work?

jimchris09


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:38

Travellers??? Bo**ox! They don't travel!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:39

Message 60. How do you figure that?

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:39

Yes well said westender, mostly bullies and cowards and cheats....



How can any law abiding person even give these people time of day.... it has sickened me .... public money wasted on the wasted ...

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:45

Them lawyers have got alot to answer for in the dale farm saga !!

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:48

Yes, but those travellers should also take responsibility for their actions too,....



You cant go through life blaming every one else or taking the pish out of our system thats put there to protect us all...

Bradus


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:49

Dizzycows.

"public money wasted on the wasted "



It has emerged that families at the site are still being paid housing benefits by the council trying to evict them.



Rent and council tax rebates are being paid to around 25 of the "households" on Dale Farm, Basildon Council has confirmed.



The council, which is spending £18m to clear the illegal site, has defended its position saying that the needy are entitled to a claim even if they do not have planning permission.



A council spokesman said the maximum travellers could now claim was £25 a week in housing benefit and £845 a year for council tax.



"People are entitled to make a claim even if the property they are renting does not have planning permission," she said.



The council had been paying full rent to many more static homes but this had been stopped around two years ago.



continued

Bradus


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:50

However, the council has confirmed it still pays out 25 claims on the illegal site and a further nine to an adjacent site that is legal but has been virtually unoccupied for months.

westender


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:51

Omaintenance, I worked on Collection & used to go out with the bailiff, but an absolute no no for a woman to go to the travellers area, had to book a police escort.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:53

Its not the travellers fault



The British government need to get there house in order !

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:54

westender



Interesting job you had .

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:55

Message 60. How do you figure that?

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:55

Bradus now you really have upset me ... lol... nothing more than I would expect from these people...



I hope the council does its job... In fact, I might apply for a bailiffs job there.... ..

westender


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:56

Yes, very interesting!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 22:59

Message 60.



"that would be a little bit like a jewish cemetry would'nt it?"



How do you figure that? (3rd time of asking)

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:01

Dizzy.



It seems the council are doing there job



They paying 25 claims

stelee77


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:01

Long live the pikeys long live dale farm.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:02

78



best post all night

dizzycows


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:07

Well if they get half of them removed perhaps they might just go back to their real homes in Ireland... Besides thats not the point really, its upholding the law.....



Pikeys as you call them will live as long as you or I , but Dale Farm will now be used as a deterrent to other travellers who try and break the law...

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:08

Still no answer to my messages......

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:10

I thought they stacked them on top of each other like the caravans to save space?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:25

re 59, a 'zero'...



>>The travellers just want there[sic] field<<



A field, bought knowing it was NOT for use for dwellings



>> bit like some of the folk of cyprus in a way !<<



Not remotely..

TRNCvictim


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:26

No1Doyen



Amanda is off in her own little world

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:31

May be the Zero's are a tag team.. on THIS thread [ http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/74518.asp - msg 3 ] a zero was soon "going out for a tipple"... ;)



Clearly, the Human Rights of the illegal Dale Farm dwellers has a greater significance ... now about Bill's question...

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:35

MSG 83



A field, bought knowing it was NOT for use for dwellings



Again one of your assumptions

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:38

Party does not start until 11.30



Williams question has been answered



Keep up bouy !

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:38

re msg 86 a zero who is late for a tipple - or may be not...



>>Again one of your assumptions<<







NOT an assumption - you CLEARLY have not read up on the FACTS.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:43

re 87



>>Party does not start until 11.30 <<



Please don't let us delay you...



>>Williams question has been answered <<



..think you forgot to post it..



>>Keep up bouy !<<



I've heard of a buoy or "the Bhoys".... enlighten us to this new word - so we can 'keep up'

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:44

what makes you think or know they bought A field, bought knowing it was NOT for use for dwellings , who said they knowingly bought it and it was not for use for dwellings .



Of course they bought it , but what they was thinking when they bought it i feel only they could comment on that , the rest is hearsay !

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:48

If i bought a 4,2m dish YOU would assume i was going to also buy a sky receiver or use it to watch some form of satellite TV programs .



But i could be getting ready to make the biggest paella dish in the world !

Bradus


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:52

I think you will find that buying a plot of land on Green Belt which came without any planning permission would suggest they knew this land could not legally have dwellings erected.



The fact that it cost £120000 for such a large plot of land was also a clue. It would have been four times this amount had it got planning permission.



I hear that when the trouble first started they did offer to sell it to the council for 6 million.

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:53

message 89



you can lead the blind but not me ;)



you think my name is John Galliano



why is Williams post and the answer so important to you.



;)

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:55

re 90/1



A TERRIBLE analogy...



when you buy land in England - you KNOW what it 's designated usage is... it is was and IS designated greenbelt land..

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:56

Msg 92



could of been a nice profit



Some one bought a lump of scrubbland in cyprus for 60k and got millions for it



The luck of the irish !!

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
26/09/2011 23:57

green belt,brown belt,black belt



you'll be telling me karate kid was also there next !

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
27/09/2011

message 92



6 million



stupid British council .



Should of snapped paddies hand off



They would of been 12 million in pocket

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
27/09/2011 00:01

re 94 - sorry.. it was and IS designated greenbelt .. you do KNOW what greenbelt means..?



Your 'hearsay' contention is therefore moribund



re 93



>>why is Williams post and the answer so important to you. <<



1/ Why don't you answer his Q?



2/ Why do you claim you HAVE answered it ?



3/ Does this style of 'insisting' on an answer not seem familiar to you... ?



The difference is you get answers ....

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
27/09/2011 00:04

I've always got answers ;)



good nite boyos !



off for a wee tipple



Party time

Bradus


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Message Posted:
27/09/2011 00:05

If it ever does get planning permission then it would be a case of "luck of the Irish" However the point is, it never has.



IT IS AN ILLEGAL SITE.



Having resided there for a decade they can hardly call themselves "travelers" and claim that their culture is being disrespected.

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 00:07

Re: Msg 1,



Another 'charming' Irish traveller site:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/11/leighton-buzzard-slaves-released

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 00:12

Maybe they had been reading to much in the local press and thought it could also happen to them .





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/7083985/Fears-200000-homes-will-be-built-on-green-belt-land.html





http://www.selfbuildland.co.uk/greenbelt-land-for-sale.asp



Bloody taxis are never on time ;)

moxie


Joined: 23/05/2009
Posts: 969

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 00:24

Travellers ...Travel l!!!! end of...these people are like illegals here , no tax, breaking laws etc



.My Great Granfather was a Traveling man ...his death certificate certifies that....i was horrified!!!



he was a journey man ...Vet and Slaughter man in the true sense of the word..........modern day pikeys are not travellers.........its called Kennick...they dont travel.... even Kennicks hate Travellers and visa versa.Nowadays they have luxury caravans and all ammenities.They are not travellers...they are no better than immigrants avoiding taxes and taking the pricks that are stupidly called Government .....................get rid ..its 2011 Gypsys . tramps and thieves , as the song goes ...................................





Go get what you have always wanted,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,a villa in Benidorm!!!!!!!





Move the crap out ......and move on ....TRAVEL!!!!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 00:31

So, you DO know what Greenbelt land is..!!



So much for your 'hearsay' contention... ANY idiot knows that Greenbelt land is NOT building land.. the SMART person buys it and hope it's use will change.. don't see that happening on Dale Farm, now..

deputydawg


Joined: 30/03/2010
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 00:54

The only travel they undertake is when they are removed from private property by dint of an expensive "possession action" by the rightful property/ land owners who are invariably left with massive damage such as ruptured water/electricity mains and pigsty amounts of filth. Local homes and businesses suffer thieving and burglaries. These groups of so called travellers cost the tax payer millions of pounds in subsidy and legal aid. When moved on they simply dump themselves on further private land knowing that it will takes weeks or months before any writ and enforcement can take place. The police will not act as it is a civil tort in their eyes. Many groups often return several times a year to land from which they have been evicted and the round of costs and danger to the public and the innocent continues year after year. I believe any breach of a Court order for possession should result in a long prison sentence not another windfall for left wing lawyers and unbearable costs.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 01:12

re 105



>> I believe any breach of a Court order for possession should result in a long prison sentence not another windfall for left wing lawyers and unbearable costs.<<



Quite !

chrise


Joined: 01/07/2011
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 08:35

As a regular lurker here and someone who has lived in the next village to Crays Hill, where the site is, I would like to try pass on a bit of my experiences with these people. I try to get along with everyone I meet, but these people - well there's not much you can do when you encounter them but steer clear. They ruined an excellent village school. The children were allowed to run amok "it's their culture"; effing and blinding in the classroom - no problem "it's their culture"; turning up when their parents deemed to drop them mid-morning in big Mercs and SUVs with Irish plates "it's their culture". So what happens? Over time, parents vote with their feet and the school was ruined. That's not racism, that's fear. Invading local pubs and intimidating the regulars - nothing you can do. Our parish council was invited to send a rep as an observer to a meeting with the council and travellers but the police vetoed it because the rep had no training in counter-surveillance techniques!

chrise


Joined: 01/07/2011
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 08:35

What I'm trying to say is that there is no reasoning with these people. I personally think the council got their tactics wrong years ago, but if the case against them fails I wonder what will happen when the lawyers get their hands on that judgement? There will be a lot of new planning requests in the area I suspect.

OK back to my cave and the restaurant and gardening threads!

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 10:11

Yes, well said chrise, your post is so true of what happens.... Fear of what these 'bandits' are capable of.



Mmmmmm you are correct to on the green belt issue.. If we all bought land and started building, change of use etc, what would our country side be like....



Omainenance, Amanda, dont show that you are a supporter of wrong doing, especially as you don't live in GB or know the laws.....

lindsay


Joined: 19/04/2009
Posts: 257

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 10:22

agree with you chrisse ,, 99%of them are scum .... ripping off everyone . ripping up tar from driveways, tiles from roofs and diumping it down backroads , paying no taves EVER and most claiming housing benefit and unemployment ............and as you rightly say .. puntin' about in late model rangerovers .... errrr , not so easy to figure it out where the government is totally failing...vat and taxman will nabb the easily nabbable like small shopowners trying to earn a crust ,,and these parasites are left to prosper ...what a sad affair ...

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 10:23

Oh that has just made me giggle like a little girl, I have no interest in slagging off Romany travelers or whatever group name you decide to use but the audacity of someone sitting in the UK constantly slagging off North Cyprus and advising people on how things should work in North Cyprus when they have no real idea of how things work here to tell a British citizen not to talk about the UK is astounding.

I will let you get back to making the usual redundant comments about things you will never be able to do anything about because it makes you feel important if one person agrees with you, have fun now.

I just wanted to say thanks for making me laugh this morning.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 10:41

msg 103



If we was all to listen to the GCs and there government then we are illegals also , but we choose not to listen .



message 104



The smart person would of paid the travelling community £6 million pounds for that lump of grass that cannot even be smoked and would of saved the tax payer approx £12million pounds , NOW THAT WOULD OF BEEN SMART !

Greenbelt only means something when the local council of that area wish it to mean something ,when they wish to change it if they get a fat brown envelope then it becomes not greenbelt , whatever suits them at the time i suppose .

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 10:53

re 104



Think you also need to read up on Green Belts



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_belt_(United_Kingdom)



You have a very jaded view of the democratic process and law, don't you...

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 10:57

Amanda, why should the council be held to ransom re this 6million !!



It wouldn't solve the problem would it, they would say thank you very much, now try and get us off!



Or they would just go some where else and again black mail the council....



No, the council have no option now but to move them off that bit....

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 10:59

109



dizzy



i have my own opinions



i am not a lost sheep following the pack !

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 11:00

Because wikipedia is the ultimate source for up to date correct information.



from the wikipedia site, about page.

Wikipedia is written collaboratively by largely anonymous Internet volunteers who write without pay. Anyone with Internet access can write and make changes to Wikipedia articles (except in certain cases where editing is restricted to prevent disruption or vandalism). Users can contribute anonymously, under a pseudonym, or with their real identity, if they choose. (sounds alot like this forum in that last comment)



Not like you to use unqualified documentation Mark.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 11:05

Proger1, re 116



I 'frightened' to respond lest you unleash that 'training' you had from Her Majesty's Forces.. )))



How about you - SPECIFICALLY - tell us where this wiki article is 'flawed'.. ?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 11:09

message 113



No one lives by the law ! we all jump around it and use it which ever way it suits us .Rules where made for breaking !



I know much about land , i had some in the UK and still do ,not alot but enough to make me smile .



Onwards and upwards huh!



6ms



and when you send these folks to jail who foots the bill again ,for gods sake leave them to live on there little plot of green land ;)

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 11:10

Here we go again Mark, twist, turn, stretch everything I can to get my way.

I didn't say it was flawed, nor did I say it was accurate, you implied that part. I merely tried to point out that wikipedia itself states that the source of information could be anyone with an internet connection and you normally have muck more authorized documentation to bring up for your cause.



As for my time in the armed forces, that's a different subject all together, we'll get to that some other time.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 11:14

re 118



IF you know 'so much about land', I wonder why you committed your howler re "the travellers " purchase of land that is green belt - not having planning permission for building dwellings being 'hearsay' !



Yes, it 'costs' but there is a principle of law and order involved and ( hopefully) a message that should be sent to others who might have the same idea.. you ain't above the law..

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 11:14

6ms



Anyway i thought you cannot go to jail in a civil matter , if that is correct then jail is out the window ,ah it does not matter anyway , its only local council money ,£18 million is nothing ,most local councils and government are fiddling expenses like its going out of fashion ,so i suppose another few million to spend on some land is all in a good cause

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 11:18

re 119



Proger1



where's the 'twist', Paul ?



If you don't disagree with the Wiki article on green belts -what was the point of your post 116 ? Your time in the armed forces is not relevant - it was your public announcement of how you intend to use it - as a civilian - that 'tickled me'..

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 11:24

I have a simple question, do you even read your own posts Mark.



Let me try again, my post was about your choice to use wikipedia when by its own admission is not restricted to accurate and authorized only postings.

I found this to be ironic by being posted by you who is normally much better at finding literature that is authorised to back up your comments.

The twist is you trying to avoid that point by asking what I disagreed with in the wikipedia post to distract from the actual comment, and I am certain you know that.

As for my forces background, it has nothing to do with this thread at all so you are only doing it to annoy me or try to get me to say something you can use against me, I said "some other time" so we will leave it at that.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 13:21

Proger1



As you can't / won't tell us what was incorrect about the wiki link - I'm sorry, I have to assume you are more 'obsessed' about anything I post rather than it's content..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 13:27

re121



a zero



>>Anyway i thought you cannot go to jail in a civil matter<<



Ever heard of Contempt of Court .. ? Try ignoring an injunction or an summons to attend ...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 13:31

They not in contempt of court



so thats out the window

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 13:37

A Zero



re 126 ( a Zero)



but you learnt something.... be careful what you think ! ....;)



Contempt proceedings can and DO result in Jail terms for ignoring Civil Courts.. ( Orders or Summons)

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 13:43

3ms



i learnt nowt



contempt is nothing,very few go to jail,normally you get a nonce of a judge who flexes his power in the court and waves his finger at you.



The workings of courts is not rocket science.



I could name several cases where summons have been served and ignored and no one went to jail and also not answering bail and no jail was given ,but we wont go down that road today.



Your assumptions are just that.



ASSUMPTIONS

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 13:59

Mark, as per your usual form, you attempt to make other posters look inept instead of getting on with answering the post as asked.



For the third and yet again extremely boring time, I inferred that you were not up to your usual standards of backup literature, you have been very busy of late trying to state things like, this was not the original post or because I won't speak to you on skype or as seen here, my military background or in fact that I am obsessed with you and not the thread.

Why did it become an attack on me personally. As for the can't/won't tell you anything, it would be hard for me to do as I have not even read the link, I tried to point out that it isn't necessarily factual but you tried to turn that against me instead of admitting that it is true that wikipedia can and often is written by anyone who feels like it.

Have you ever actually accepted that you might be wrong about something, it might be a good start for your recovery.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 15:24

re 128



a Zero



there you go - 'thinking', again..



I know over several cases where folk ignored injunctions and were arrested and send to the cells for the weekend... I have experience, myself, of having an attempt to be Served a Summons to a Civil Court 'fail' on a legal technicality .. I wasn't in the jurisdiction when the attempt was made.. Everyone turned up - but not me.. The Judge pointed out that if I couldn't prove I was outside the Jurisdiction I'd be arrested - naturally, I could.. and the case was thrown out anyway..



So, I did / do not assume.. I *know*....



You simply keep making the mistake of making 'silly' assertions..that show your opinions - if based on your 'facts' - are meaningless..



Now, I don't want you to forget you STILL owe No1Doyen an answer.. :(





re 129 Proger



For the third time - what ( specifically) is wrong with the link I posted re Green Belts.. ?



The rest of your post has been covered. I don't want to send members to sl

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 15:24

( cont) Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 15:44

Mark, you have covered nothing because there is nothing to be covered, I tried to point out that you are quoting a system which is often inaccurate and you are normally better than that, you turned it personal against me but have not even accepted that the statement I linked from wikipedia themselves is true, you really are the most ignorant debater I have ever encountered.

If you just want to continue to live in a world that only accepts your thoughts and nothing that might point out any possible errors that is fine by me but this is the real world, don't try and make things personal against me just because I don't agree with you, it is not becoming of someone like yourself.

I criticized your choice of link because it is by its own admittance flawed by potential biased statements, why did that become something I have to justify, the site does that for me by its own disclaimer.

I can't be bothered with your arrogance anymore, have fun correcting your self as usual.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 15:48

Proger1,



You raised a point re Wiki, yet failed to demonstrate any flaw in the content quoted... I hope you can stick to your 'promise' and not 'bother' ...

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 16:12

1of the Ms



look into the 80s



and see my reply to william . Oh you little crim you ,been to court so many times , you baad bouy .



Ive been busy i could not answer you,david was out of the office .



courts are easy to mislead or trick , that again is easy as with jurys , again easy .



Anyway lets see how paddy gets on, on thursday, i wish him luck , he seems a nice chap when listening to him on sky news last evening on my OSN TV satellite service that was fitted by your friends at http://www.satellitecyprus.com

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 16:48

re msg 134



I think you might be trying to suggest your msg 82 was an 'answer' ? ... Still don't know what a 'bouy' is..



>>Ive been busy i could not answer you,david was out of the office . <<



I can imagine that some of us are rolling about, as you may not realise how funny that sounds..



>>Oh you little crim you ,been to court so many times , you baad bouy . <<



To be a 'criminal' you have to have done something wrong... I'm sure you hear you 'boss' tell folk this ...



Now, back to your 'assertions'..



So far we've seen that



1/ you would appear to be belittling the power of the Courts / law enforcement officer's and even have gone as far as stating Courts / Jury's are 'easy to mislead.. '



2/ You have demonstrated that you are zero clueless re Green Belt legislation and purchase of land



3/ and you have again tried to use site to this promote a service that is as legally dodgy as your general knowledge..

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 21:22

Personally, I lie awake at night worrying whether the pi.. Travellers are claiming their full benefits entitlements, that their children are receiving a top class free education (even if it is 'their culture' to destroy the school, it's only money); that their health issues are fully taken care of; that their human rights are fully respected so that harmless examples of their culture like dumping any rubbish, human waste, car parts etc. they like, are overlooked despite clean up costs (it's only money); that they are not inconvenienced by laws that don't suit their culture i.e planning, theft, fraud, paying tax and NI contributions.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
27/09/2011 21:30

Hector - I know how you feel.

misunderstood


Joined: 08/04/2011
Posts: 1004

Message Posted:
28/09/2011 07:56

Yes I totally undestand where you are coming from Hector. When the K5 are evicted (and they will be) we are going to set up an encampment outside the Parliament in Lefkosa and claim refugee status. I just know the govt will alow us to stay and a soft hearted judge will protect our rights, our Human Rights, of course there will be a plague of boils and locusts that day. Oops mind the flying pigs.

noiseboy


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 13:12

Well said Hector im p....ed off paying for the scum bags, culture my arse ! they are leeches

skurry


Joined: 04/02/2009
Posts: 81

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 14:04

RETURN DALE FARM TO A NATURAL VISTA OF A BREAKERS YARD EVEN THAT IS BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW. GO CHECK IT OUT NEXT TIME YOUR THAT WAY IN ESSEX .

baxi7


Joined: 23/09/2008
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 14:15

answer to message 22 . leave it to the women to get the sympathy vote , men out doing rubbish , scrap , thieving , ect , ect , not wanting to show there faces ? .

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 14:36

The police are scared to go into Dale Farm regarding thefts from local people... Some one had all his wheels and engine taken from a transit van, the victim followed the thief's, took picture etc of them doing the crime, police went to the site, they were met with a man carrying a shot gun and would not even take a statement because of fear retaliation!



If any of us were to have a loaded shot gun in the presence of people, we would be soon chucked in a cell, its basically these 'Tinkers' just doing as they please and to hell with any one else ..

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 21:37

Msg 142



Let me just say ,if a police man felt threatened by any armed man or woman within minutes there would be ARVs there right away,never ever would any policeman turn a blind eye to a traveller showing a gun loaded or not to a police man.

CO19 or SO19 would be there,no doubts about that,they love that kind of confrontation .



CO19 is Scotland Yard's specialist firearms unit and they are a trigger happy bunch that is for sure so im more than positive that if any policeman went to a traveller camp and was faced with a man wondering around with a gun it would of been game on within minutes and poor paddy might of been copping for a 5 stretch if he was lucky !

OR Lead poisoning me tinks msg142 could be a little exaggeration ;)

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 21:57

Amanda/David you live in a strange little world



Are you related to the Kray Twins?



Or did you watch Bonnie & Clyde as a "little" Boy/Girl?

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 22:00

Msg 143,you have obviously never been to Doncaster.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 22:10

No Amanda you are wrong again... will look out the report that I have quoted and see if I can either type up the article or scan and copy and paste...



But it saddens me to think that you, a young woman think these people are what society wants...



Thieves and con artists ....

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 22:26

Amanda, page 26, Daily Mail, Wednesday Sept 28th... Please read and then perhaps you will understand why the police have not acted and how disgusted Mr Stanley ( Mr Stanley being the one who took police to the sire with his evidence) is with the police, and with these so called travellers ....

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 22:30

Northants police refuse to recover stolen van from ... - Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Northants-police-refuse-recover-stolen-van-t...23 hours ago – Wednesday, Sep 28 2011 9PM 69°F 12AM 68°F 5-Day Forecast ...

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 22:37

I'm sure they could stay in Ireland and put up an illegal site there, why don't they?



You don't see many in Eire, not in caravans anyway. They have nice houses. Don't blame them for Dale Farm, they're just taking advantage of a situation that other countries wouldn't allow. Not the only ones doing that eh.



T

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
29/09/2011 23:24

Don't blame them for Dale Farm? Don't think its a case of blaming, its a case of how they have been allowed to interpret and take advantage of our laws...



Most of us are law abiding to the laws of each individual country... Its respect as well.. All you need to do is ask some of the residents around that area of Dale Farm.....



Problem we have in GB, is the 'human rights', which every one now throws at you...

passionflower


Joined: 20/09/2011
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 07:45

Yesterday Mr Justice Ouseley said: ‘It is not always possible to get what they most want, ►especially when what they most want is to go on committing a criminal offence.’◄



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043361/Dale-Farm-travellers-Judge-says-you-want.html#ixzz1ZPLFrFjq

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
30/09/2011 08:02

"'A lovely turnout': Ladies representing the Dale Farm travellers arrive at the High Court, dressed in black skirts, colourful tops... and carrying Red Bull"



I see Red Bull gives you 'bingo wings'

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
01/10/2011 10:25

The planning laws are for everyone!!!!! whatever their race, creed, colour, social standing etc.

They should be kept by everyone - why should a load of so called 'travellers' who do not travel, claim rights which are not available to everyone else.

islandgirl


Joined: 12/09/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
01/10/2011 17:33

Personally I would order up some Napalm. I have seen the blight these theiving scum are on respectable neighbourhoods and it is foul. About time someone stood up to them.

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 22:54

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/30/article-2043361-0E2804EA00000578-303_634x401.jpg



sound asleep and not a care in the world



poor kids not even a bed each



Thank god they cannot read cyp44

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:01

Poor lad looks shattered



he cannot get any sleep with all the things going on at the farm ,let the poor kids have a bit of piece



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/30/article-2043361-0E258A7600000578-116_634x462.jpg

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:08

Amanda (mess 156)



I assume you mean a bit of peace?

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:18

Are you for real Amanda? many kids sleep like that, its called family's!!!!... My grandchildren will all cuddle up and sleep sometimes 4 to a bed...



Why are you so in favour of these people, are you against law and order?



Just do not understand your stance when it comes to affecting so many people and not yourself affected ... By this I mean you are not living or have property thats abused by these travellers ....

TRNCvictim


Joined: 17/08/2010
Posts: 1417

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:29

dizzycows (mess 158)



Is Amanda for real



Is she against law & order



Perhaps she just likes a little piece

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:38

message 157



peace to all



158 live n let live



in the mean time have a look at how big google has got !



http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab37/zerochlor/google%20getting%20bigger/



what is law n order?



tell us trisha/TRNCvictim

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 16:22

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-15153060

0maintenance


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Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 17:14

I think that is quite fair .

Clock


Joined: 03/10/2011
Posts: 26

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 18:11

5 minutes from where i ilved

Best thing throw them out, what makes them think their a law unto themselves.

Pay your taxes, tidy the area, stop door to door hawking,

That may go some way to being accepted in the area

nicola


Joined: 06/09/2011
Posts: 246

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 18:25

Thank god they can now be thrown off, this has gone on far too long and if the activist idiots get involved again, especially the one who tied her neck to the gate, just barge in, she will soon move.



These are dirty law breaking scum, let them go back to Ireland where their real properties are, of course they won't because they cant pillage and cause havoc there.



It's the law abiding local people who pay their taxes and have to put up with these pikies that I feel sorry for.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
04/10/2011 15:57

They cannot be thrown off , only the caravans and illegal buildings can be thrown off or demolished ,the people can stay i think ,stay in nice new big tents on the other land ,some really nice tents can be bought now , i was amazed when i saw them ,they have changed alot since i was a child and used to camp out with my girlies in the garden .



Wow im sure paddy will love these new 2012 models !



http://www.blackcountrycaravans.co.uk/trailer-tents/trigano/odyssee2012.aspx

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
04/10/2011 16:25

A Zero



you claim *I* am argumentative, yet here's an another example of you being TOTALLY wrong and 'splitting hairs'



It's hardly 'good news' for those with Caravans on the non-approved part of the site..THIS judgement supports the FACT that the land was being used illegally .. and the structures must go



Now we await the last remaining injunction - preventing removal of the travellers - whilst a decision on whether 3 separate applications from the travellers for Judicial Reviews are successful.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
04/10/2011 21:44

1 of the Ms



Which hairs did i split ?



argumentative ,your great .



1 Judicial Review can take along time if successful



3 could take a very very long time



I should imagine the kids will be having a nice Christmas on dale farm



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cfp6LK1v04&feature=related

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 09:40

Try and address the point - instead of prolonging your 'troll-fest' with another ( silly) question ....



FACT 49 out of 54 caravans can now go... not 'good news' for the travellers - but GREAT for those who DO abide by the law...

Enrico


Joined: 07/12/2008
Posts: 209

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 11:02

This lady seems to worked the system.

But I am sure that she is the only one.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html lol

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 11:05

Hi Enrico



Think you want this thread ;)



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/75142.asp

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
05/10/2011 11:19

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2045279/Traveller-mother-claimed-63-000-benefits-saying-living-alone.html

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 18:49

message 168



what do you mean troll fest.



it's not that close to christmas !

0maintenance


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Message Posted:
05/10/2011 19:14

msg 171



9 kids in 1 caravan.......



my god..



poor kids



not alot of room for them to play is there !

R.C.T.Man.



Joined: 27/03/2009
Posts: 746

Message Posted:
19/10/2011 09:04

Dale Farm getting evicted today, about time to.

noiseboy


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
19/10/2011 10:17

Get the hell out sponging scum bags....... look out tho your town could be next !

Rogerdoger


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
19/10/2011 12:21

Eviction started this morning, great news,Travellers setting fires to caravans, setting fireworks off at the police, throwing bricks and all other things they can get their hands on, police now in complete control, do not feel sorry for them, they have broken the law and cost the tax payer eighteen million pounds, they say they are travellers, but it has been proven that most of them own home in Ireland and nice ones, so what are they doing in a caravan park, tell u what scrougning of the tax payer, send them back on a boat to Ireland, let the irish goverment sort them out!