The destructive force of 44

passionflower


Joined: 20/09/2011
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 12:43

The destructive force of Cyprus 44



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/74944.asp ( KAR accused employee )



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/74967.asp ( Royal British Legion Launch Party )



Those who run need to control the anonymous and baying mob before the destroy the ►already tarnished◄reputation of this forum.

Ralph96



Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 531

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 13:09

passionflower, Anyone taking this forum seriously should give their head a shake..



p s... 400+ posts... when do I get my next gold star....

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 13:15

When you start behaving yourself )

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 17:17

passionflower



I instigated the post "KAR accused employee". I am not anonymous, my name and email address are both listed.



I posted the thread not out of malice, but out of genuine curiosity because I had not heard any response. After reading a number of reply postings I accepted that maybe my original posting was out of order. I never once thought that this was an internal discipline mater and of no consequence to anyone but themselves.

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 18:37

Many of us have been on the receiving end of 'unnecessary ' comments, but I guess at the end of the day there are so many genuine people here that one can exercise one's choices. Read if you want to and comment if you want to, or leav e it alone. One must not get too upset by the misunderstanddings of others,but continue to do whatever good one can through this very popular forum.

Good and bad always exist side by side (wheat and tares together sewn) and it is often difficult to see which is which until it is all harvested. so keep planting wheat, guys! (and gals)

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 18:59

I would never be a member of KAR. To spay, give a day or so's comfort - giving a false sense of security, to then pull the rug out from under its paws again; back onto the street-unconscionable. I believe any Charitable or otherwise organisation should be transparent and accountable in every context. To conduct a disciplinary procedure in-house; just KAR members (only upon request) knowing the result of a disciplinary procedure will stop potential whistleblowers warning the public of mis-management or serious ethical breaches that charity executives may be attempting to cover up. For instance, should an employee have a serious chemical dependency problem, yet be allowed behind the wheel once more, without a medical opinion on the employee’s ability to work safely again, not only KAR members, but any member of the public could well be run down, paralysed, killed even, and the insurance negated due to prior organisation knowledge. A wrong decision made by laymen...

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 18:59

could have horryfying consequences, hindsight after the event being pointless. Every organisation should be subject to scrutiny on every level, if not - WHY NOT? Full disclosure of every donation, names of all members, including Board members, the Accountant, names of all members allowed to drive KAR's vehicles - should be available to every member of the public, by way of a typed list permanently displayed, and clearly visible as one enters the premises. I would have nothing to do with any organisation where none of the above obtained.

tomsteel


Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 482

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 19:08

Msgs 6/7 - perhaps your views could be put to the TRNC authorities as well for their compliance in their dealings.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 19:21

It is not so much the destructive force of 44 ,it is that the mods allow people open day on any business , IMHO i feel it should be the Mods who should be held responsible or the owner of the site or even better if any one has a complaint then do not email the Mods , as we know they never answer unless it suits them ,Email the actual company who hosts this website http://www.uk2.net



I am more than sure that they would not be very happy with many emails complaining regarding what this thread is about.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 19:35

The mods try to address every complaint but if the other side does not like the answer he gets and sends in tens of similar complaints (as if there is strength in numbers) then they get ignored. Some people complain of too much moderation and some of too little. Can't win either way.

ismet

PS: We got used to insults, threats of legal action, attempts at blackmail etc. etc., there is no limit to how low they can get before giving up.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 19:50

As i said.



Mods do answer if it suits them



nuff said

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 19:52

I'm sure the government also got used to threats regarding legal action about speed cameras

Scoty


Joined: 23/05/2010
Posts: 846

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 20:27

David / Amanda - behave and you will not get banned - simple



it is great to see the clamp down - however, what do the mods have to do with original thread??



Amanda - why pick on the mods again!!

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 20:46

The moderators have a difficult task and one sympathises with them.



However, I do find it very disturbing that they allow theads to be distracted and disturbed by apparently ongoing personal feuds by members , often including offensive language and going totally off topic. and some to go on and on about personal grievances at the risk of damage to the community and country.



But at the same time when a serious matter (the KAR issue) which is important to all expatriates and all concerned with Charities in the TRNC is being discussed mainly by people who have differing but deeply and genuinly held views expressed in literate and moderate language they close the thread "Topic addressed" .



A good formum will not merely permit but encourage dissential between members, particularly on issues of public interested PROVIDED it is obviously genuine and expressed in non offensive language.

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 20:54

As far as I am concerned the KAR issue - which served to emphasise reservations I already held from other experiences with them - has not been addressed and until it is and I have some evidence

(here or elsewhere) that they accept that they are accountable to those from whom they seek and accept support and money (whether or not actually members) my charitable donations will go elsewhere.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 21:05

message 13



It is just my opinion



do you deny me my right to 1

Marion


Joined: 06/03/2011
Posts: 1816

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 21:06

Agreed message 14. And whilst I agree that the KAr SITUATION is difficult, it would be nice to know how it was dealt with. In one sense it is not our concern, but in another it is because we give money to support the charity which has a responsibility towards those who support it. It would be good to know what has happened in terms of an explanation; whether it was all a lie; what has been done - the banning of the driving, the taking away of the car, or even a statement that it was all blown out of proportion - or something to satisfy our./my curiosity. I DO appreciate it is a very difficult situation in this small half an island.

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 21:17

message 13



Where did i misbehave?



Also im not one of your children your talking too !!



you ask what do mods have to do with the original thread



Mods are responsible for the forum as izzet is far far to busy for his forum !



The name of this thread is The destructive force of 44



It can be if the mods allow folk to write what they feel fit about any business ,person , charity ,ect .



We do know from past experience that some people will write a total crock of poo just for the hell of it ,is it right ,is there evidence ,i think you knew what i was writing about scoty and instead wished to twist it that i was having a go at the mods.

It was my opinion , that is something that you or mods cannot take away .



i could say ,



scoty why bother to comment !

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 21:42

0maintenance;

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 21:53

0maintenance msg 18 wrote "It can be if the mods allow folk to write what they feel fit about any business ,person , charity ,ect . We do know from past experience that some people will write a total crock of poo just for the hell of it ,is it right ,is there evidence ..."



You mean like when you decided to publicaly brand me a 'stalker' on the forum based on the crock of poo (lie) that you had no idea I would try and see you in person a second time having missed you the first time, despite having told David I was going to do so, emailing you to say I was going to do so and posting on here in reply to you saying I was going to do so ?



Is that the kind of thing you were talking about perhaps ?

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 22:41

Yes.



But if bobbing and weaving up and down outside a place of work looking like Mr bean on crack cocaine and stretching your neck up as if trying to be a giraffe and coming uninvited , then yes that is the trait of a stalker.



want to go back down memory lane



perhaps it was !

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:39

Well it is not just curiosity on my part - there are a great many good causes asking for my hard earned money and I want to be sure it is going here it will do the most good.



Also when one thinks about it, it is hardly fair to other employees/volunteers of KAR! Human nature being what it is they may all be tarred with the same brush. A statement on the lines of (and this is an example as I dont know the facts:



"KAR regrets this incident, which came about because an inexperienced member of staff made an error of judgement when under stress, and apolgises for concern it has caused supporters. The person concerned has been warned that a repetition will result in disciplinary action. All staff and volunteers have been reminded of their resposibilities to preserve the good name of KAR and measure are being taken to give support and advice to volunteers and staff dealing with distressing situations in the course of thier duties"



Would have been good



(Because I can well

BizziLizzi


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 855

Message Posted:
02/10/2011 23:42

Because I can well believe that many people after dealing with a distressed and mistreated animal might feel the need of a stiff drink , and wonder what sort of support and training they get.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 00:04

As moderators we are damned if we do and damned if we don't.



Regarding the 'business threads' we generally don't try and get involved unless it's to give a personal opinion. By and large we would usually keep out of a 'business thread' - especially if it's a business that has no use to us personally or if we knew nothing about the technicalities of such a business.

PhilUK


Joined: 31/03/2010
Posts: 236

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 00:18

msg 10 Elko-not strictly true,

you barred me for a month for unwittingly reopening a valid thread which mr (overjeaous)No1 doyen had closed-I mailed you to complain of the harsh treatment(reasonably and non abusively)but did not get the courtesy of a reply.



Furthermore,I note that the maximum sentence for this terrible crime ranges from nothing(depending who you are)to one week.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 00:30

0maintenance;

You seem to be very confused, and as often observed, a touch spoiled. A FORUM is not a newspaper! cyprus44 is run in a very unique way. It gives the opportunity for many companies and individuals to advertise FREELY their services and products. Something I had never witnessed in any other forum (out of hundreds I had been a member of, in UK and USA), during my 5 years of professional EPR activities!

A forum is a social discussion board. It is up to the individual members to maintain communications at an un-provoking and sensible level. Forum administrators/moderators do not get paid and do the job as a hobby. But they also have their own ideas about issues which may take precedence over what others think when it comes to threads.

What a silly advice, telling people to complain to the company hosting cyprus44, instead of the mods! They would not give a toss about how a forum is run, neither is it any of their business. They just provide a service and get paid.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 01:20

Now we have 'amanda' suggesting a "complaint to the hosting co." .. when her alter ego is today sending invites from Linkedin saying,



" Mark b*st*rd face,sl*g of a wife I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.



- david "..



[ a's removed by me.. ]



Clearly the 'tag team' may need to rethink their 'advise' ......

SAFFI


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 342

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 02:27

Oh Dear

I feel Cyprus 44 is really going down hill fast and furious now !

kittyfun


Joined: 11/04/2011
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 03:26

Its about time 44 banned the idiot David/Amanda its him taking the board down

My opinion and am intitled to it

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 09:53

Msg 27 and 29



6ms



David told me to say he is not a member of Linkedin ,there must be a virus which is sending out invitations using Linkedin from his email contacts ,But in actual fact the Linkedin invite said from ***** ****** owner at ******* turkey i'd like to add you at my professional network on Linkedin,He has not sent out invites to this network and does not use it ,he deleted it .He does know many have had an invite to this network from him but is not a member of it.Its possible all the words you have posted are Key words in his yahoo directory under your name ,or the trojan virus he has is a very naughty one !

Kittyfun in bodrum ,of course your entitled to your opinion just as i am ,i would normally never read the rubbish you post but with you directing your post at me i had to read it,regretfully. Is the dale farm thread not to your liking !

kittyfun


Joined: 11/04/2011
Posts: 181

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 10:01

If you never read *the rubbish i post*

How do you know its rubbish

Plonker duh!

0maintenance


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 2179

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 10:07

As before i wrote the post i had a little look through your past posts , seems you are a very abusive poster and like to use mild profanities so much in your replies to people ,it really is quite shocking .



You really do seem to have a disruptive character !

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 10:13

re msg 30



A zero..



..I suppose all the mindless emails folk get from from David - when they 'differ' with him ( which amuse me, but intimidate some members) are all as a result of a 'virus', too ?..



Please do revert to us with the malware that has chosen David's PC..

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 12:43

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread went off topic.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
03/10/2011 12:44

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread went off topic.