Former Cypriot Ministry of Finance caught with a Young Boy!

bigOz


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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 13:38

The former Greek Cypriot minister of Finance and a 17 year old mainland Turkish boy (from Hatay) were caught completely naked. According to prosecution, during yesterday's court hearing, the police acted after information that Mihalakis Sarris was frequently crossing the border and having sex with under aged boys. He was subsequently followed and caught in the act - the boy with 20 Euros in his pocket. Sarris denied charges, claiming the young boy was giving him a massage (?).

The police further added, another boy (aged 14) who in the past was also used by Sarris, has given evidence to support their claim.

More importantly, Sarris is the Head of the Economic advisers, accompanying Hristofyas during current inter-communal negotiations!

Geoff


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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 13:58

I hope they throw the book at him.

Geoff

Yel2011


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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 14:05

I agree with Geoff

Jovial_John


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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 14:12

We already have a thread on this:-



http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/76126.asp

bigOz


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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 14:12

Apparently he is also well known in EU circles, so I would have thought the biggest loss to him at this time is that his political career must be finished. The man is a pedophile (how appropriate - a word that was originally Greek ), so I hope he will get punished accordingly.

But look at what we are dished out as residents from Hatay! This is just the tip of the iceberg with regards to peasants that are allowed to stay here in return for a few votes - perhaps now you will uınderstand the pain of some TC posters in this forum...

bigOz


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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 14:24

Sorry did not read that post! But the court case was reported in yesterdays Kıbrıs with more and/or slightly different details. There is nothing about him being arrested before - 6 years ago. It is also stated that the house he got arrested in, was owned by a TC who was employed by M. Sarris's firm. The guy he was caught with accepted that the 20 Euros in his pocket was in return for sexual favors!

Elliecy


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Posts: 153

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 14:42

20 Euros? So he's not only a paedophile but he's tight as well! :-D

stelee77


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Posts: 557

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 15:07

That's taking the saying don't shit on your own doorstep to a whole new level.

mikelapta



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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 18:54

just cementingin Cyprus/Turkish relationships

mikelapta



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Message Posted:
16/10/2011 18:56

Or is the Cyprus/Turkish solution near at hand ?

Geejay


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Posts: 475

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 23:16

Strangely, according to the Greek Cypriot government, the UN is uniting with the ROC to obtain his release. Neither of them has any regard for local laws since they do not recognise the TRNC.

The Greek Cypriot papers seem to think that this is homophobia by the TRNC and not paedophilia in spite of previous allegations of unlawful conduct with a 14 year old. Sarris is said to be known by the media for this kind of behaviour.

But why is the UN concerning itself with this alleged crime ?

Geejay


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Posts: 475

Message Posted:
16/10/2011 23:19

mikelapta....more like the GC's screwing the TC's as usual.

Sorry, sorry........my vulgar side just temporarily showed through & got the better of me !

wanderer


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Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 09:51

In France Riberythe footballer was charged with having sex with an under-age prostitute (female) as the Italian president both these girls were 17

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/government-takes-steps-free-sarris/20111016

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 10:47

Sorry, I am missing something in all of the msgs,

how on gods earth do u link to paedophilia, some people seem not to be aware of what paedophilia means..



The guy was 17 years old, so if he had sex with a 16 year old girl, then he would not be classed as a paedophilia. Please grow up, The greeks are correct in thinking of the homophobia aspect, again shows that the TRNC double standards in law, Ok so what we are saying is go and pay a 16 year old girls 20euro and have sex, then we will not charge you with any offence, but having sex with a 17 year old boy, o sh.t, sorry the law doesn't allow it, how stupid, This law is well outdated since the days of the British Rule of the 50s and needs to be changed URGENTLY.



The issue here isn't about age, it is all about an outdated law still in the books of the TRNC laws.Would it have made any difference if the guy was 21 or 25 or 30, no it would't have a dam difference. GET RID OF THIS OUTDATED LAW. In complete violation of the Human Rig

Erkin


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Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:02

This has actually created the perfect opportunity for the gay and lesbian groups to Protest and demand the equality in the eyes of the law, rather then be treated like 2nd class citizens, what every body does behind their own private closed doors is no ones concern but their own, unless under age is concerned then yes, the full force of the law should be applied, but giving a 16 year old girl the right to have sex but not 17 year irrespective of heterosexual or homosexual, the law should equal to all.



This is like living in Europe in the 60s, The E.U treaty on equal rights was inrroduced in 1987 but despite this, we have still done nothing to amend the laws in the TRNC, we alwasy have to wait untill someone gets discriminated first, before we do do something.

coffer


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Posts: 292

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:10

Quote: The police further added, another boy (aged 14) who in the past was also used by Sarris, has given evidence to support their claim.



The above is NOT legal!

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:10

Erkin overall I agree with you however it was only in 2000 in the UK that the age of consent for homosexual relationship changed from 18 to 16 to be inline with hetrosexual relationships.

Rogerdoger


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:19

Why when people caught then they are sorry, if there was no law in the SC did this guy come into the North to do this, when he gets caught people always scream the "Human Rights" crap, the laws in the North are to be followed by anybody either living or visiting the North side, just because is a GC he is still required to adhere to these laws.

erolz


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Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:23

It is also worth noting (I think) that whilst homsexuality was decriminalised in the UK in 1967 general prohibitions on buggery were maintained and this was not changed until 2004.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Kingdom



"The Sexual Offences Act 1967 was accordingly passed. It maintained the general prohibitions on buggery and indecency between men, but provided for a limited decriminalisation of homosexual acts where three conditions were fulfilled. Those conditions were that the act had to be consensual, take place in private and involve only people that had attained the age of 21. This condition was interpreted strictly by the courts, which took it to exclude acts taking place in a room in a hotel, for example, and in private homes where a third person was present (even if that person was in a different room)."



So even as late as 2004 the above case as reported could have been illegal in the UK.

Jeremyclark30


Joined: 17/10/2011
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:24

This is righteous the tip of the berg with regards to peasants that are allowed to brace here in turning for a few votes - perhaps now you testament u?nderstand the pain of whatsoever TC posters in this installation.But care at what we are dished out as residents from Hatay!Apparently he is also fortunate notable in EU circles, so I would soul thought the large death to him at this clip is that his semipolitical line must be painted. The man is a degenerate (how seize - a phrase that was originally Hellenic ), so I outlook he module get punished accordingly. Funny, according to the European Cyprian authorities, the UN is uniting with the ROC to obtain his give. Neither of them has any direct with a 14 year old. Sarris is said to be familiar by the media for this kind of action.







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ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:39

I guess the GC's reaction makes sense. To not deny this act would mean that own of their own, an important one at that, had been performing a sexual act with the enemy. Perhaps bad enough a TC but surely not a Settler. I can imagine, to the Orthodox Christians amongst their tribe it would be simply too horrible to contemplate.

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:45

Just to be clear I think there should be no diffecenciation between homosexual and hetrosexual relationships in law and the the current TRNC laws that prohibit 'unatrual acts' are antiquated and in need of reform and not consistent with ECHR charters.



Having said that the idea that places the UK have had the above 'since the 60's' is just wrong, at least in law as I understand it. Anal sex between consenting adults of any gender was technically illegal in the UK until 2004. Homosexual acts between consenting adults were illegal in the UK if one participant was 16 or over but under the age of 18, until 2000. Homsexual acts between consenting adults over the age of 18 were illegal in hotels or even private houses if there were more than 2 people present, even if the more than two were in another room and not involved until 2004.



The TRNC laws are in my view wrong and backward and need change, I just do not think they are 'as backward' as many percieve them to be vs say the UK.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:51

Msg 16: Please note that no swuch statement has been made by the Police regarding to a 14 year, that was fabricated by the TRNC newspapers in the name and shame properganda nothin more nothing less.



Msg 18: So just because he is GC he has the obey the law so does mean that I as TC have to travel overseas to to meet another gay person to have sex with.Please grow up, just because we have laws, does not make that law perect, so u are telling me that, you respect every single law within the TRNC yourself, hard to belive.



Msg 20: How do u know that he is a peasant, you have no right refering to people in that manner, who are you to judge a person on the basis of nationality or any other for the matter.

I fully agree with the UN in supporting the ROC on this matter, once again it shows what a pethic and shambles our laws are in the TRNC.



Msg 19:Thanks for your support, but slighly wrong in the info

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2000/dec/01/socialcare.politics

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 11:59

and by the way for all concerned i am gay and my partner of 7 years is a Greek Cypriot and we have homes on both sides of the fence. So u can say shagged up with the enemy

but it is all about give and take

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:02

Erkin, I may have been wrong on the exact details as to what was changed between the 2000 and 2004 acts in the UK, but my general point remains, that 'the UK had sorted out these unfair laws in the 60's' is actually not really correct. There has been progess in the UK since the 1967 but it still took to 2000 / 2004 to get many necessary changes inacted in UK law in my view.

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:04

Erkin cross community relationships are our (cypriot's) hope for the future in my opinion, whatever the gender of those in them may be. I wish you and your partner a long and happy relationship and commend the courage of your honesty here.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:19

Erolz I am not disputing the facts of the UK with you, Yes it takes time to progress but I am angry at the general opinion of the people on this forum, who do not get their facts correct before writing anything. Just mouth to mouth gossip, or using silly translators on their computers to get a jest of the history and get it all mixed up.



I along with many other gay people in this country face persecution and fear everyday while this law in TRNC stands in force, In 2009 we the gay campaigners petitioned the government and also E.U gay rights director Michael Cashman (who might know from the old East Enders episode) came to TRNC to support our cause, At the time The speaker of the House and Mr Talat promised to deal with this issue, but then after he lost the election, Mr Eroglu declined to raise this issue with the parliament.



A classis example for you all, 2 weeks ago the police raided the only bar in TRNC for gays for no reason and all we got from the police was a mouth full o

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:32

A classis example for you all, 2 weeks ago the police raided the only bar in TRNC for gays for no reason and all we got from the police was a mouth full of abuse and threats.



The biggest problem here is not just the threats from the police, we need to discuss these topics more, so that people can understand that being Gay is not an illness.



Most parties will not even listen to us because of fear that they will lose votes in an election.



Regarding being arrest in homes or hotel rooms, how many gay man or woman can afford to get a place of their own? as a result most gay man always goes to a hotel as there are no other choice for them.



Anayas

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Madde 118

(1) Polis Örgütünün kuruluşu, görev, yetki ve sorumlulukları yasa ile düzenlenir.

(2) Polis, demokratik hukuk devleti ilkelerine ve yurttaşların temel haklarına saygılı olarak Anayasa ve yasalar çerçevesinde görev yapmakla yükümlüdür.



does not say go into a bar and abuse

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 12:44

Well for what it is worth I absolutely believe that you should not have to live in fear or face persecution in practice or in law because of sexual orienatation and am happy to publicaly support any and all efforts to bring about change in the TRNC to make this the case.

Erkin


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Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 15:44

Thanks Erolz wish we had more support like yours.

Millwall123


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Message Posted:
17/10/2011 18:06

I know it goes against popular public opinion but I happen to think these people are perverted and dangerous. I think 5 years out of circulation is about right.

Pugwash


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Posts: 1797

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 18:36

Millwall123 are you really saying that gay and lesbian people are "Perverted and dangerous" ?

Erkin


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Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 20:13

Well Millwall people like you should be thrown out of this country, "dangerous and Perverted" u must be one of the closet queens who speak different and act different, if you don;t like it then get the F..k out of my country.

Erkin


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Posts: 339

Message Posted:
17/10/2011 20:18

Millwall if anyone should be out of circulation for 5 years, think it is people like you that should be out of circulation not for 5 years but for life, maybe u would think about life while u are out of circulation then.You are sick.



I wounder why the nick Millwall? like the westham full of hatred for others, I am aware of the racist action of the east end of london in the 70s and 80s.

Millwall123


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
19/10/2011 14:01

wow.........amazing how free speech and of expression only seems to work one way when it comes to the gay community. Anyone standing up for what they believe is shot down and hounded out of the country (a country which, by the way, deems the practice illegal)



My religion teaches me it is wrong. The law of the land tells me it's wrong and medical opinion shows me it's wrong. It is fundamentally wrong in every way and is simply a sexual practice enjoyed by a perverted few.



I'll stay in the TRNC thank you and will continue to abide by the law.

bigOz


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Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
19/10/2011 15:52

erkin!

I lived in UK for near enough 30 years altogether. I am really fed up of the garbage you and your kind spill out all the time at every opportunity you may get. The excessive rights they have given you and your like who have different sexual preferences are part of the reason why the whole social infrastructure in EU is collapsing!

I do and have had homosexual friends, but I do not mind them as long as their preferences or habits are not stuck in my face all the time. There is no such thing as oppression of gays in N. Cyprus and I do know of many gays who have had successful careers & families because they do not make a song and dance about their preferences. As far as I am concerned there is positive discrimination against the gays in Eu - something I rather not see here. Next you'll be asking for "proud to be gay" parades in the harbour like the ones in London. I would say b****cks to that - not until I get a parade for "proud to be a woman loving man". To be continued...

passionflower


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Message Posted:
19/10/2011 20:49

Sarris had not sexual contact with 17-year-old court hears



http://bit.ly/naD70e

Ed1957


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Posts: 377

Message Posted:
19/10/2011 21:15

surely the rights and wrongs of the law are not to be debated. If I am caught drinking alcohol in Sauadi Arabia I know what to expect. Behave with respect to the laws of the country you are living in. It seems that in this case the gentleman? chose to soil the nest in another country rather than his own

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 09:58

BigOz so it is ok for the hetros to stick it in our faces but not the otherway round, Pls don';t me laugh with the crap of there is no such thing as oppression of gays in N. Cyprus, I take it that u still live in the UK, Well u might have lived their for 30 odd years but haven't learnt anything then.

I was born their in good old Islington, so do not mix the issue of the Uk and Trnc. Equality for all irrespective od sex, colour or creed.That isn't asking for much is it? u get to enjoy your freedom of choice, I want to enjoy mine.So sorry but your statement is a total Cr_p.

As for Millwall, your views are totally waste of space.FREEDOM FOR ALL what ever sexual preferance they may choice.If i am going to be judged then let God judge, not you or anyone else.

I don't tell you who to shag up with and u can not tell us, and pls no crap about what you are taught,

He who is without SIN cast the first stone "millwall" don't think so.

Millwall123


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 15:00

Erkin..........you are one big contradiction.



You demand freedom of choice but when others state theirs you want them thrown out of the country.



You want to be judged by God? Save yourself time, he's already done it........try:-



Levicicus 20:13 If a male lies with a male as he lies with a woman both of them have committed an abomination.



1 Corinthians 6:9-11 .....the unrighteous homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God



I'm not that big on religion myself but as you specifically want to be judged..........looks like you're in for a spot of bother at the pearly gates sweetheart.



Lastly, as for casting the 1st stone.......I could do so with impunity but I'm not a violent man as I believe in the rule of law. TRNC law

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 16:09

who the f..k cares, condisering that the word homsexual is new, I am suprised that it has a place a holy going back 2,0000 years, oh sorry it gets amended to suit our needs, how nice i do not give 2 hoots about any book, if i am unable to live my the fullest now, why should i bother for after death.



pls spare me the crap of any chapter or vs, I DO NOT GIVE A fu.k

Erkin


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Posts: 339

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 16:15

Is the man at the pearly gates, the man who is the Peraly King in London by any chance ,

hree men died on Christmas Eve and were met by Saint Peter at the pearly gates.

"In honor of this holy season" Saint Peter said, "You must each possess something that symbolizes Christmas to20get into heaven."

The first man fumbled through his pockets and pulled out a lighter. He flicked it on. "It represents a candle", he said.

"You may pass through the pearly gates" Saint Peter said.

The second man reached into his pocket and pulled out a set of keys. He shook them and said, "They're bells."

Saint Peter said "You may pass through the pearly gates".

The third man started searching desperately through his pockets and finally pulled out a pair of women's panties.

St. Peter looked at the man with a raised eyebrow and asked, "And just what do those symbolize?"

The man replied, "These are Carols."

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 16:19

Calm down and debate politely please .

Simbas

Millwall123


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 17:22

Indeed Simbas................I reply to a few points providing references etc and get a tirade of abuse in reply.



Erkin..........I ventured that you are full of contradiction. You wanted to be judged by God and when shown he has already judged you you " not give 2 hoots about any book" and go on to ridicule the bible. Ok we're done with the religious stuff.



You haven't mentioned the law. A previous poster said you should respect the law of the country you are visiting. This politician has done the exact opposite and he knew the offence carries a posible jail term. Not only is he plain stupid, he is not fit to govern. What are your thoughts on obeying the law of the land you are visiting?



Finally, medical. Even in the UK - acknowledged to be the most tolerant in the world, practicing homosexuals (ie during the previous 12 months) are banned from giving blood....why?? because they are more likely to be diseased than normal people. This is medical fact.

Rogerdoger


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Posts: 102

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 17:47

Simbas,



I should think the best thing to do would to to close this thread as its not serving any purpose now apart from people abusing each other.

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 17:49

Mılwall123;

You are wasting your time, so why not just ignore the B.B. and he might go away quietly. As you say he is full of contradictions and argues a lot of shite; an attention seeker maybe?

Erkin; as for your comments, I have been living in Cyprus for more than 3 years now! One of the major reasons I left was the likes of you and other "political correctness gone mad" issues. I have nothing against gay people doing what they want in their private space, but because of you I might pick up "gay bashing" as a hobby!

Tell us which gay people have been oppressed in TRNC lately. Or is it the fact that most people living in TRNC are not interested in gays, you want to advertise your unpopular habits?

Let me give you a warning; You will NEVER have the same rights in TRNC as people who have normal heterosexual relationships! No one will object to anyone doing it if they are heterosexual, but you could get clobbered by some TC if tried cuddling or kissing your boyfriend in publi

Millwall123


Joined: 02/08/2011
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 18:25

I don't mind a heated exchange of views.........I don't even mind the abuse (I support Millwall ffs) but it just annoys the hell out of me when people that scream about free speech etc cannot comprehend that this involves debating with people that hold a different opinion to them and acknowledging they have an equal right to be heard.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 21:17

Millwall in order to debate about something like this, you need to be a citizen of this country not a house owner.



This matter is for the TRNC citizens to debate not you or anyone else.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 21:26

BigOz if anyone is talking shite it is you, I get enough support from alot of expats and locals alike, not to mention the EU.

You state u have gay friends but stabbing them in the back by not condeming this kind of police action.



What ever my views are clear and simple. Equality for what colour-Sex-nationality, everyone under the law should be equal and as a gay person and happy to be one, will fight untill such time as we get out rights.

if you don't like then thats your problem,

Why gay bashing, you are doing good job condeming gays on gere including your friends.



well how nice of you to return back to your roots, only been here for 2 years myself.and fighting for my rights.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 22:15

Millwall, in referance to your medical theory crap, let me again state something in plain english " all people giving blood are subject to HIV test" not just gays but hertos alike.



2nd if you care to check the NHS reports for the 1st 6 months of 2011, the hetros are more likely to chatch or pass on H.I.V then gays.



Check your facts please.

I have been a Gay rights activist in the UK since the Mid 80s and as agay person since 17, Get facts from real life.

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 23:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKsR_wUSfA

bigOz


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Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
20/10/2011 23:23

The assumption that gay people should have equal rights as heterosexuals is flawed from the start! You are talking about equal rigts for something that is classed as morally, religiously and physically wrong by most people in Cyprus.

As for HIV, when compared to the number of gays against heterosexuals, a vast proportion of gays ended up dead (including many famous figures). So I have no idea what you are talking about!

And who the hell are you to come on an English language forum, with most members ex-pats and tell other members participating in a debate they should not be posting based on their nationality "because this is a Cypriot issue"?

So, by the same reasoning, what gave you the right to participate in gay rights demonstrations in England? Was that not an English issue then? Erkin you are a hypocrite. You come on here seeking support for another sicko who enjoys sex with underage young boys (and we are not talking about the 17 y.o. only a 14 y.o. also gave evidence)

EamonnMc


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Posts: 1019

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 01:58

The guy is a creep and should be recognised as one by all decent people ! It's either child abuse or it is not !! make up your own minds !

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 08:22

Bigoz bollocks to u and the likes of you, Closet queens thstya all that you are.

I happen to be in a very happy realtionship for the past 7 years,



Come out of the closet all of you.



Just because of news reports showing the famous does not state nothing, looki at the sums on how many babies are born each year with H.I.V.



U must be talking about yourself Bigoz with 14 year olds, That happens only in the churches.



U lot are a waste of time. as for writting on an English Fiorum, I happen to be dual national (london Born Turk) So

stick that in Pipe. Homophotics idiots with such narrow minds that you can not see your arse from your elbow.

philbailey


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Posts: 3534

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 08:52

"Homophotics idiots with such narrow minds that you can not see your arse from your elbow."





oh now that made me laugh

eastenders


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Posts: 21

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 10:19

i think that the matter (that has been forgotten) that he had paid for this sex. that is illegal in its self, it doesn’t matter what sex it is, if it is paid for it is illegal!

im sure prostitution is illegal in most countries, be it with 17 year old boys of 40 year old women!

money was exchange as a service!

yorgozlu



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Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 10:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9rLvxSOZnw

Millwall123


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Posts: 61

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 12:14

Erkin - am I a closet poofter?



Give us a kiss and I'll tell you.

honestie


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Posts: 468

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 13:24

why everyone is so surprised about all this is beyond me considering what goes on the the world outside cyprus.



this sort of behaviour has gone on for years and years and always will, an unfortunate fact of life. A man having sex with a 17year old does not make him a paedophile and the average person often gets the two confused.



By law in the UK having sex with a 14 year ols would be an offence but not with a 17yr old unless it was without consent then it would be rape.



Having dealt with this side of life both with victims and offenders for many years I can tell you there is a very big differance between the two.



At the worse this man has p.robably taken advantage of a situation with the 17yr old who finds it a way to earn some money. With a 14yr old a different story. Compared to what is happening elsewhere this is nothing apart from who knows what other links there may be to this person as there is usually further connections sometimes but not always to bigger or more si

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 13:27

as was mentioned in one of the earlier threads about peasants from Hatay.



I think that is one of the most uneducated response I have ever heard. Please explain what difference it makes from where any victim come from!!!

bigOz


Joined: 29/09/2010
Posts: 1244

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 14:28

honestie;

contrary to what you have been claiming about working with such sickos, it seems that you lack a lot of knowledge about Hatay and the surrounding communities. How much do you know about the cultural habits and sexual preferences of men living in that area? Furthermore, here is the dictionary explanation of a "peasant" just for you and erkin b.b.

"peasant; a poor person who lives in the country and works on a small piece of land" - which is exactly what 90% of the people people living in Hatay region are! As faith has it - we do not have any rocket scientists or wealthy people coming to live in TRNC from Hatay! Only peasants! And if if you do not believe that, go do your own statistical homework!). Who exactly do you think the guy doing sexual favours for 20 Euros was? A bloody tycoon from Hatay?

I cannot believe there are couple of idiots in this forum actually condoning male under age prostitution. I can understand Erkin b**ch advertising himself, but what's with you?

honestie


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 468

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 16:23

The thread was about the minister being caught with a 17yr old not where that person came from. As to what he did being child abuse by law its not but with the 14 yr old yes



I think you display a lack of knowledge of worldwide issues in such a bigoted view of peasants and as for doing statistical homework why what has it to do with this thread? thats another issue maybe you should start another thread on peasants from Hatay



I think you should believe there are a couple of idiots on this forum as there are a couple of idiots all around not jut on a forum . I think you should do some homework on sexual offences and deal with the offenders and victims than you may be able have some insight into how people become victims regardless of coming from Hatay.



It is such an emotive subject that opinions and discussions become heated so I have had my say and no doubt there will be many having theirs enough said

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 16:34

mannnnnnnnnnnnn,I didn't think I could love my wife more then I already do.









I bloody dooooooooo













and,before I forget,WELL SAID bigoz.

horselover


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 16:54

you know what, nothing surprises me anymore.. just read about thousands of children bein abducted every year by spanish catholic church n sold on.. and 2 days ago i was walkin my dog early thru our local farm n saw a chinaman having his way with a pigs bottom. shame i didnt have a camera fone..the world is a effd up place

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 16:57

bigoz said "I cannot believe there are couple of idiots in this forum actually condoning male under age prostitution."



I do not think anyone here is condoning underage prostitution, nor are the people concerned being charged or prosecuted for offenses of prostitution. The issue that some are raising is that the existing laws in the TRNC relating to 'unatrual acts' are out of step with not just norms in Europe but also in Turkey itself and with ECHR charters. They may currently be the laws of the land but that does not mean they are not outdated and in need or reform and actualy incompatbile with a higher supra national law, namely those of the ECHR.

Erkin


Joined: 15/06/2011
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 18:35

BigOz just because he comes from Hatay and is an manual worker makes him a peasant in your eyes, so u are telling everyone here young or old, who works or worked as a manual worker they are peasants.What back people world do u come from.



So all our parents and grandparents who worked on land and same still do are peasants then, wow.



how many uni have u finished Bigoz? sorry forgot u are the most intellegent one on this forum.

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 18:58

This thread is a classic example of moderation (in both of the relevant senses) at it's best!



Erkin, you have the art of unintentional irony down to a tee!

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:10

Changing the law, does not legitimise unnatrual acts.



So OK I am old. If the Bible tells me that it is against the common good. Further if the Koran says the same.



Is it not time to listen?



Judge not lest ye be judged. Guess you pays your money, and takes your choice.



wyn

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:19

Msg 64,



Whilst noting your natrual disgust, You have quite put me off my bag of Porky Scratchings.



At least current TRNC laws seem to support our stand.



wyn

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:23

Wyn, as obtuse as ever.

wynyardman



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Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:25

Giles,



Open as a book, as always.



wyn

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:30

True......so very true!

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:38

Giles,



What is your view? Biblical / Koranical rhetoric, or a bit of peodophilia, when no ones watching?



That fence must me sticking in your backside..



wyn

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:45

You have a thing about backsides Wyn!



I am not saying your narrow minded and vaguely simple attitude it is un-natural (point of this thread?) but may well be worth a look in a mirror mate!



As for homosexuality......as long as they don't make it compulsory...each to their own.



The last resort of the lost is to quote the Bible/Koran.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:49

"you have a thing about backsides Wyn"?



Yeah. I never coul;d stand Arseholes.



wyn

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:54

Classic riposte. As bright as a 2w bulb!

passionflower


Joined: 20/09/2011
Posts: 168

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:55

Arseholes are like opinions we all have them BUT we do not need them pushed in our faces !

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:57

Well said Nige....Quiet on yours tonight is it?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 19:57

I think, I made my point!



wyn

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 20:00

Almost certainly Wyn...And when I work out what the point of your post is, I will comment.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 20:03

Giles,



We wont hold our breath!



wyn

Giles


Joined: 16/08/2011
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
21/10/2011 20:08

Based on your previous Wyn, that is probably safest!