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truffles808


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17/10/2011 10:27

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Can anyone else in the Esentepe district confirm if they have had an increase in council tax and by how much.

Many Thanks.



Jimbo51


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17/10/2011 10:32

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heard it was 100% but this is not yet confirmed.



coffer


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17/10/2011 10:46

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Not going to be announced until the end of the month but I also heard it was 100% increase, so 180TL for us.



the butler


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17/10/2011 16:56

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How can they justify a 100% increase in one go? Can anybody tell me if this applies to the properties of Turkish Cypriots as well, as I cannot believe they will be happy with this.







The butlers wife



Pipie


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17/10/2011 18:00

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Crikey !! Thats a big hike. Bet this will be a struggle for the locals.



kennyb1


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17/10/2011 23:18

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Good evening all

Any information relating to the increase would be appreciated.

Also does anyone know who sets the tax, does it come from the TRNC government or down to each individual district or Belediye

keep posting

keep smiling

Kennyb



deputydawg


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18/10/2011 10:48

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A 100% hike does not surprise me. Our local facilities tax as against the tax for our villa and pool was until approx year 2009 the sum of 40 TL per annum. At a stroke it became 180 TL. We await a road surface, lights, mosquito spraying etc as detailed in the bills !



tomsteel


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18/10/2011 12:48

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Msg 7 - have you approached the Mayor for an answer? If so, what was his response? Could be a story for the local English-speaking newspapers methinks!



deputydawg


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18/10/2011 16:09

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Tomsteel. I gave up years ago involving myself in the false promises and comments of those in positions of local authority. For example with regard to the local authority assertion that all roads will be tarmac soonest, the program for this area stopped well short of the area where it is mainly foreign dwellers in spite of it being a Caddesi (main road). The rumour of feedback from those most affected, and who took issue, is that the local authority want over 6000 TL from each household and if it is not forthcoming a legal charge for the sum will be applied to each property with no tarmac until everyone has paid. When I asked the question 3 years ago it was 300 TL per property. If these comments prove true obviously some will refuse to pay and others may not be in a position to pay. I simply rise from bed in the mornings, grateful for another day, to partake of all the many things which are very good here and try not to get wound up by the injustices which occur.



Pipie


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Try not to get wound up by the injustices which occur.



This is very difficult for some people to do because if some injustices if allowed to continue can esculate out of control.



carian


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18/10/2011 17:26

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Maybe its going up because of all the new street signs. It took 4 people 2 days to put up 4 signs about 3 weeks ago,( there are 29 houses ) today ours has been changed to a different name completely!! So they can't even get that right!!



Gunay


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18/10/2011 17:41

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My my what an excitable bunch 180 lira at the exchange rate of what 2.8 = what about a fiver or there abouts a month. Get real my god it may of gone up 100% from 2.50 lol but make a story of it,,,,, laughing my head of here, if anything looks like you have been getting a freebie for sometime if thats all you pay.



tomsteel


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Msg 12 - the point is what are folk getting for the tax? At least in Plymouth you know what you are paying for, even if it is extra policing on The Barbican over the weekends - lol (happy days there)!



Gunay


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18/10/2011 17:57

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yep paid it 180 TL



cooper


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18/10/2011 18:14

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Cheap as chips compared to the UK, pay up and look happy.



inthesun


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18/10/2011 19:28

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Sort of remember paying between 150 and 200 for 10 installments a year in the UK! Ho,ho,ho happy days! Perhaps if we paid that amount here we could have more street lights, pavements, bin lorries, fire engines, ambulances - or just smile and pay the 180 tl as 'cooper' states. Because we demand/expect more, we should consider paying more.



wynyardman



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18/10/2011 19:34

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Gott in Himmel. .........Anyone know what that means? Sounds about right.



Compared with UK Poll Tax, have to say, a bargain.



Never explain, never complain,,.......I suppose



gusanova


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18/10/2011 20:15

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Thats on par now with Karsiyaka as I have been paying YTL187.50 a year for last 3 years so are we expecting a rise too!



niceone


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18/10/2011 22:18

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We pay more in one MONTH in uk than we do for one year in TRNC



hadenough


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18/10/2011 23:29

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But you are not in the Uk and are missing the point.



The village are doing very nicely thankyou. Mt neighbours who are TC will be horrified to know a 100% hike is in the wind. still no mains water in spite of being promised two years ago, do not clean the green areas, roads not cleaned, Lights not repaired, all done by the residents more fool us.



still musn't grumble



deputydawg


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18/10/2011 23:38

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How is it as cheap as chips ? Local and villa taxes here of approx 280 per annum added to annual cost of water and tankered water, electricity, heating oil, gas bottles, and logs for me adds to approx 3,000. In Uk the cost is marginally less including 1500 per annum community charge. The point made in the initial post is that rises in excess of 100% are somewhat a shock. If such rises continue (if the media is to be belived 30% on electricity bills plus tax is imminent) how long before you will be paying a lot more here than in UK for less bang ?



japeal



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18/10/2011 23:42

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Tatlisu annual charges are 235tl (inc Prop tax for pool) Water is 13tl/mth.



truffles808


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19/10/2011 07:29

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The point of the thread was to see if everybody in the Esentepe district were charged the increase and not just isolated to areas / sites with majority foreign owners.

I appreciate it is a lot cheaper than the council tax we paid in the UK, but if all of a sudden it doubled there too, I would of questioned it also. It's a very large increase against inflation rates, and how some of the locals will be able to pay it on their low income I don't know. Let's hope they do not keep doubling it year after year!



Gunay


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"The point of the thread was to see if everybody in the Esentepe district were charged the increase and not just isolated to areas / sites with majority foreign owners."



Truffles I think the only person who can answer that question is the Belydere, pop in ask them they always seem friendly enough to me.



scruff


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19/10/2011 15:07

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The reason the increases are so large here in the TRNC is because (normally) these utility charges do not go up each year or even more often (eg. fuel bills) as in the UK. Electricity unit charges last altered (slightly downwards) in Jan 2009. No change whatsoever since then, apart from small increases each year for the service charge.

Water bills for us in Catalkoy went up last month, this was the first increase since before August 2008, probably January 2008, when I started keeping a record. In 10 years water has only changed in price 3 or 4 times including this latest increase. It's not really surprising that the increases are large in percentage terms when they happen.

On balance I suspect we do better here with delayed increases rather than annual (or worse) increases in the UK.

The only exception to this is now the regular petrol & diesel price hikes at the pumps, but that's fairly recent as well & in line with what happens in the rest of Europe & elsewhere.



Agobard


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19/10/2011 15:39

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This is a typically confused thread - as they all are when so called 'council tax' rear it's head on this site! There is no such thing as council tax here - there is either property tax or the utility bills that are produced by the local belediye - which are you talking about? Property tax, bills normally appear around April each year, is currently 1TL per square metre or 1.25TL if you have a pool. These amounts have remained the same for several years now so it would not be much of a surprise if they went up a bit. These figures are the same wherever you live and are set by the government. The charges for water, street lighting, rubbish collection, insect spraying are set by the local belediye and are fixed by the belediye within their area. If, for instance, you live in Ilgaz these charges will be exactly the same as if you live in Alsancak because they are in the same belediye area. Karsiyaka residents will pay the same as Lapta etc etc.



carian


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19/10/2011 16:39

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What happens if you are only renting? Is the property tax included with the municipality charges?



truffles808


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19/10/2011 17:44

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Council tax that I am referring to is for the street lighting, bins and the spray man to come round to keep the Mosquitos at bay - Services provided by your council.

I did go into the belediye a few weeks ago when it was first suggested an increase of 100%. The man there said it had been put forward but had been knocked back as the increase was seen to be too much. He said there would be an increase but not sure by how much. I also asked him if this increase was for everybody in the district or just certain complexes, which he did stumble over a bit, but then said it was for everybody.

Property tax - another matter...!!



sylvie


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20/10/2011 10:16

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in France we pay in a month the value of what we pay in one year, but.......you cannot compair one country to an other - we have advantages you do not have in cyprus - in many way we pay in france for our confort but now too much is too much......



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