When will the direct flights start to TRNC

Yildiz


Joined: 29/06/2008
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 12:02

I heard rumours that this may start in 2009. Is this true?

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 12:16

probably started by an agent desperate to flog you a property....



i wouldn't hold your breath.





Nick

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 12:17

They are starting tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Navek



Joined: 01/06/2008
Posts: 2656

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 12:22

Once the Pink Elephants have all landed.

or is it White Elephants.

Who knows, Who cares ?

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 12:58

messege 2 Well said .

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:03

Next year i think lets be positive on here.

PtePike



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Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:05

Or maybe the year after.

Dusterbruce


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Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:08

To my knowledge its been 'next year' ever since my first visit in 1981

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:20

if not definitely the year after, maybe.

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:22

newlad your not an estate agent are you !!!!!! only joking .

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 13:48

aren't you supposed to write the word 'JOKE' at the start of a joke thread?

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:09

Non stop flights from Ercan will commence the day after the Greek Cypriots claim the island for themselves. Tickets will be issued to Turks and Turkish Cypriots and will be of the single variety only. The next day tickets will be given us to ex pats who used to own property in the previously named TRNC.

Once that has been carried out then the airport will be renamed The Sampson Aerodrome and we will all live(maybe) happily ever after.

Navek



Joined: 01/06/2008
Posts: 2656

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 14:34

There may be an element of truth there :-(

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 15:35

Please remember that these flights will start tomorrow and that tomorrow never comes.



Do you get it???????????????????

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 15:58

yildiz



there is a court hearing in feb 09 in london regarding direct flights ,we will all know more then.



musin

long live the kktc

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 16:52

Direct flights are with doubt an aspiration o anyone travelling to TRNC.

The airline industry will, of course,support any moves to introduce as it will open up a significant new revenue source.

TRNC and Turkey will of course support moves.

The hands of the EU are somewhat tied but they must see the clear injustice of this blockade.

The world political shufflers must be viewing the current talks and hopefully will support at the very least direct flights. My thoughts are that most rational thinkers and movers should be able to push for this aspiration without causing undue distress. There is no threat of war, violence or indeed terrorism to discourage the airlines. The political difficulties are really quite trivial and the status quo is clearly causing significant difficulties to many thousands of innocent people of many nationalities.



Come on democracy let flights begin yesterday. All in favour let it be known lets get this ball rolling.

PtePike



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Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 17:42

waz,



Democracy also demands invading and occupying forces withdraw from sovereign countries. That's why there are no direct flights.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 17:50

Demoracy is also respecting your fellow man especially Countrymen

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 17:51

Waz and John

Please give me your definitions of 'Democracy' because I do not believe true 'Democracy' exists on this planet.

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:03

Crikey,direct flights,Girne bypass completed,next thing there will be hen/ stag party weekends in Lapta !!!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:22

Pipie re-mess 10 me an estate agent no just trying to look on the bright side,

Paul.

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 18:32

Pike msg17



Democracy also means abiding by the Constitution and not attempting to commit Genocide on the minority thus resulting in one of the Guarantor's having to intervene to safeguard that minority ( and then spend eternity bleating about how hard done by you are)

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:37

gibson335



very well put .



democracy is a greek word for me me me ,they proclaim too the world about the poor turkish cypriots and how they are suffering at the hands of turkey and forget their actions towards us ,if you do not want us to suffer then why go out of your way and manufacture as much suffering as possible.

why not go and tell the people in turkey and stop their aviation why not make them suffer ,why not stop their trade ,can it be that they really do want the whole of cyprus for themselves ....surely not.



musin

long live the kktc

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:44

Msg 19 reply.

Democracy.... Power and decision to the poeple, human rights, freedom of speach and expresion.

However without doubt these simple prerequisitions cannot be met for all of t5he people all of the time. Democratic process in most cases leads to majority

rule. It is clear that on Cyprus and indeed in numerous other regions that fanatical minorities take it upon themselves to interfere and attempt to destroy the process. In other situations the minorities have been supressed and victimised by the majority.



I am afraid that, in my view, the democtratic process, whatever its failures, is the best that we currently have in the political arena.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 19:47

Whether is it tomorrow or the day after.....thay day will come, then it will be a pleasure to arrive in Ercan and the beautiful TRNC. Roll on spring till we are back again.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:25

gibson: "Democracy also means abiding by the Constitution and not attempting to commit Genocide on the minority thus resulting in one of the Guarantor's having to intervene to safeguard that minority ( and then spend eternity bleating about how hard done by you are)"



Of course, things didn't happen that way though, did they?

PtePike



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Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:28

AJ: "Waz and John. Please give me your definitions of 'Democracy' because I do not believe true 'Democracy' exists on this planet."



How about accountability of one's own leadership? Hardly applies to Turkish Cypriots who know very well their destiny is controlled by the occupier, Turkey. Ask one or two of our TC members who I'm sure will keep you right.

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 21:31

Non stop flights to the TRNC as it exists at present cannot happen without the Greeks giving the nod.

Why should they.

What is there in it for them, exactly nothing, so it will not occur.

It has nothing to do with democracy but more about how life is.

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 22:28

msg 28.

Not at all sure why Greeks need to give the nod. More like Civil aviation authority, Co-operation of airlines and certain international governments ,not just the greeks.

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 22:58

message 17



Deep down who would let there family go through any kind of trauma being a tc or gc, the turks were the first one's to go in and have it out and every other country stood by and watched,must of seen some right in it.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 23:00

spot on waz-24-7



there are other channels ,this is what the hearing is about in feb 09 .



the turkish aviation believe they have a strong case ,fingers crossed.



musin

long live the kktc

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 23:07

jay76,



That doesn't explain why the Turks are still here after 34 years. Which suggests - as all thinking TCs know very well - that the invasion was a very convenient pretext to seize and partition the north once and for all. Don't you realise taksim was the agenda since the 1950s? No way was Ecevit going to miss his chance after July 15, 1974.

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 23:12

obviously when on for to long put a stop to it, the jobs done.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
30/11/2008 23:45

musin

the trnc is not the only goverment to run like an old boys club.



how are the trnc gov going to win against the uk gov in a uk court system?



they will never get a fair hearing! the odds are stacked against them.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 00:29

firestarter



we are talking about aviation laws ,what are you talking about.



"how are the trnc gov going to win against the uk gov in a uk court system"



why are the uk goverment corrupt or are they racist against the turkish i don,t

quite comprehend what you are suggesting.

stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 02:37

Even if direct flights did start who is going to fly Ercan?



Most of the big tour operators already fly to Paphos and Larnaca, what will make them change to fly to Ercan. Other national airlines already fly to Larnaca or Paphos there is no incentive for them to fly to Ercan. Due to the current economic climate airlines are not going have additional flights to another destination in Cyprus without cutting back on flights to another airport ie Larnaca or Paphos. Besides many of the tourists visiting Cyprus visit the south anyway why would any airline want to transfer them from Ercan to their destinations in Protaras, Limassol or indeed Paphos.

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 08:09

Well stubs Ercan is a much better airport... and has better transport links to the favourite holiday destinations in the north favoured by those who do not see the attractions of the Ayia Napa's of this world.



When and if direct flights do start, Ercan will be become the bustling little regional airport it was built to be...

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 10:17

Pike mg26



Isuppose it didn't if you listen to your friends in the South who always tell the truth don't they!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you speak to independent people you learn the real truth, suggest you do this

stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 12:59

Groucho



You are right Ercan is a regional airport. Larnaca and Paphos are international airports. There are more flights leave Larnaca on a Wednesday than there are at Ercan in a week.



I don't see were the better transport links for Ercan exist, as for the tourists in the north is there a lot???

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 13:50

gibson,



Best learn up on Cyprus before attempting comments about internal politics.

CJtill


Joined: 02/05/2008
Posts: 836

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 14:17

Groucho

Ercan a regional airport, surely not.

I remember reading Cyprus Today a few years ago when the Government proposed to rebuild Ercan and bring it up to the highest international standards, with a duty free area to rival the best in the world.

The project from memory, both overran and was overspent and now your telling me its not up to standard.....whats going on.

Alright I concede there are no rail or bus links and its miles from anywhere

Alright I concede by law you cannot drop off or pick up anyone who is not a BLOOD relative, but at least they have taksis which can deliver you at the speed of light to your destination.

BigBen


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 14:25

International law does not permit any airline to fly into an airport that it is not recocnised by the country that it is registered.

This is nothing to do with demogracy or the greeks given the nod as it were!!

Perhaps the time has came to try and get TRNC recognised by as many friendly countries as possible eg Azerbaycan, Pakistan and same of the turki republics.

etc etc etc

Lincsman



Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 14:59

Pte Pike re message 32 That doesn't explain why the Turks are still here after 34 years. Which suggests - as all thinking TCs know very well - that the invasion was a very convenient pretext to seize and partition the north once and for all. Don't you realise taksim was the agenda since the 1950s? No way was Ecevit going to miss his chance after July 15, 1974.



Whilst taksim may well indeed have been on the agenda from the 1950s, the "peace operation"/invasion" of July 74 may have been restricted to the Kyrenia corridor if the GC's hadn't restarted ethnically cleansing/massacring TC villagers in Aug 74.

PtePike



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Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 17:05

Msg 41: "Alright I concede by law you cannot drop off or pick up anyone who is not a BLOOD relative..."



Are you serious?

stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 17:13

Pike



That was a law which was passed a couple of years ago although i cant say if it has been enforced.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 17:39

Lincsman msg 43,



Turkey violated an internationally brokered ceasefire and launched the second phase of its invasion BEFORE the massacre of TCs in three villages in Famagusta district. It would be fair comment to suggest these killings by GC irregulars was an attack on vulnerable and isolated people in revenge for the second advance. If you think otherwise I would imagine you have been misinformed or are relying on Turkish sources.

PtePike



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Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 17:40

stubs,



It sounds typically idiotic to have been dreamed up by the TRNC authorities.

Lincsman



Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 18:06

Pte Pike





What about Tochni?

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 18:33

Lincsman,



Turkey broke the ceasefire and launched phase two of the invasion early in the morning of August 14, 1974. The villagers of Tochni were massacred later that day - and probably as a direct result of the Turkish advance, as were the TCs near Famagusta. I know a bit about this as I have been to the sites of the atrocities and interviewed survivors. I think someone's been feeding you false information. This doesn't help people who want to know the real facts and historical framework behind the Cyprus conflict.

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 18:53

Pike msg 40



It would see, to me that myself and a hell of a lot of people on this Forum know a lot more about Cyprus than you clearly do. All you can do is spout the same old Greek Cypriot propoganda that we are all sick of hearing. I would suggest you do some fact finding as you clearly know bugger all about the situation here prior to the landings in 1974 ( and probably about the same since 1974!!!!)

bachelibelly


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 275

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 19:58

"the villagers of Tochni were massacred later that day" "as were the TCs near Famagusta"



Oh well thats ok then is it Pikey !!!!!!

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:08

Relatives demand justice over Tochni massacre

Relatives demand justice over Tochni massacre

By George Psyllides





RELATIVES of Turkish Cypriot missing persons yesterday asked Attorney-general Petros Clerides to launch an investigation into the case of 84 Turkish Cypriots seized and subsequently executed by Greek Cypriot irregulars on August 14, 1974.



Emine Erk, who headed the group of relatives, said the case concerned 84 civilians who seized in the village of Tochni in the Larnaca district.



Erk said the specific case was different from others, as the names of those who seized the Turkish Cypriots and led them to Palodia on buses where they were executed were known.



It was one day before the second round of the Turkish invasion when elements of the EOKA B extremist group arrested all the men � understood to be 68 in total � from the mixed village of Tochni, and put them in the community school.



cont....

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:09

They were held there with 14 men from the village of Zygi and two from Mari until the next day when they were put on buses.



According to reports, the men were told they were being taken to a detention camp in Limassol but they were executed near Palodia, north of Limassol, and buried in a mass grave.



However, one of the men, Hussein Kafandar, survived and managed to escape to the British base of Akrotiri where he testified about what happened.



Sources said that after hearing that the massacre had been uncovered, the perpetrators dug up the grave and re-buried the bodies in the Gerasa area, just north of Palodia.



Erk said they gave Clerides copies of the files of each individual case, which included eyewitness testimonies.



The names of seven Greek Cypriots, several of which were Tochni residents, were also handed over to the Attorney-general, with the request that they be investigated and prosecuted if necessary.



cont....

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:10

A similar petition was handed over to President Tassos Papadopoulos and Foreign Minister George Iakovou on July 6.



�The relatives of the missing wish to give the names of the people they know are responsible for their demise so that the necessary investigation can be carried out,� Erk said.



She later told the Cyprus Mail that the relatives expected that the state would look into their case.



�We request that the Attorney-general takes steps to investigate the crime that was committed,� she said.



The Committee of Missing Persons, which operates under the auspices of the United Nations, is understood to be investigating 1,493 cases submitted by the Greek Cypriot side and 500 cases submitted by the Turkish Cypriot side.





Copyright � Cyprus Mail 2005

Groucho



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 7993

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:12

"It was one day before the second round of the Turkish invasion when elements of the EOKA B extremist group arrested all the men"



One day before... and not "villagers of Tochni were massacred later that day - and probably as a direct result of the Turkish advance..."

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:17

bachelibelly: ""the villagers of Tochni were massacred later that day" "as were the TCs near Famagusta" Oh well thats ok then is it Pikey !!!!!!"



That's a disgraceful thing to say. You should either explain yourself a little better or apologise. Unlike many on this forum, my principles are not based on blind support for the Turkish version of history because I occupy Greek Cypriot owned property.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:19

gibson335,



I thought I mentioned it to you before, but if not I'd recommend you assume observer status on the BB until you feel confident enough with your background knowledge to post something of substance. It's good for credibility.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:39

Groucho,



Thanks for the background and for backing up my facts that the TCs were slaughtered AFTER the Turkish army broke the agreed ceasefire and launched the second phase of the invasion.



Emine Erk is a lobbyist on the Turkish side, BTW. I'd recommend independent verification from respected and independent sources like the Times, Telegraph and the link below:



http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/Greek%20v%20Turk%20narr%20-%201974.htm

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:53

Pikey,

Tit for tat he did this they did that,old ground, and nothing whatsoever to do with direct flights,

Regards,

Paul.

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:57

Pike



I have plenty of confidence in my knowledge of what happened here. Yet again you just respond with more garbled bull as per your G.C friends. They have obviously indoctrinated you in the same way they do their schoolchildren, as you clearly do not have a brain to decipher the facts yourself. I would strongly suggest therefore that you observe what is being put on this Forum and refrain from commenting until you are competent enough to do so, which entails you learning some history and facts, something you clearly lack up to now

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 20:59

AS FOR CREDIBILITY, LIKE YOUR g.c FRIENDS YOU HAVE NONE

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 21:02

gibson,



You have yet to demonstrate anything in your postings to suggest you know much about Cyprus. Attacking another member doesn't count unless you're prepared to state your case and present your evidence. Surely a bit of cutting and pasting isn't beyond you if you lack a firm grasp. Try Google then CTRL C and CTRL V.

bachelibelly


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 275

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 21:25

Pikey, having you down as a reasonably intelligent life form ,all be it a little tunnel visioned ,i fear my initial observations were flawed,as you so obviously only read what you want to see out of what other people say to promote your own vision of Enosis (so obviously an anagram of Eric Seans,surprised no one else has picked up on it).

With regard to my disgraceful reply to your statement i am sure that the other 99.9 % of the planet are quite aware of the context in which it was made,if you still need any further clarification i will ask my 9yr old if he can be of assistance,as unfortunately,i have bigger fish to fry !

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 22:33

suzanne

have you flown into ercan ,its a right dump nothing like the greek airport ,

maybe after the reunifacation you lot can knock it down and build too your own specs,you know keep the authorities sweet and such .





very balanced and unbiased remarks ,i think the talks have a good chance.



musin

long live the kktc

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 23:10

bachelibelly: "...your own vision of Enosis (so obviously an anagram of Eric Seans,surprised no one else has picked up on it)."



Eh? Perhaps you should get your nine-year-old to help you with basic spelling and letter identification.









PS , there is no need for insults

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 23:27

And there was me thinking it was Sane Scrie

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
01/12/2008 23:28

Ercan Airport, regardless of its position as regional or International airport, will, when direct flights arrive soon be transformed into the potential that it has.

Geographically it is Ideal for Nicosia, the North coast and with good access to the remainder of the Island the potential is clear.I am sure that demand for flights will outstrip that of Paphos and posibly Larnaca within a short space of time.



It will be private money that will instigate a rapid and modern development of this airport. Airlines will be quick to list this destination as the gateway to the beautifull North Island.



Suzanne and PP. You should be more realistic about the future and allow history to be surpassed by the prospect of prosperity for all.

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 10:32

Pike



Yet more sanctimonious claptrap. I sometimes wonder whether you can actually read or understand what people say. Your delusions of grandeur are hilarious as you appear to think you are the only person in the World who knows what happened on this Island. No wonder you never got beyond the rank of Private. However the little boy in the sailor suit should surely carry the acronym of (UNST)ABLE SEAMAN which I feel is much more appropriate!!!!!!!.

You haven't even got the guts to put your real name, place of residence etc on your details. I wonder why!!!!!



If you hate Turkey and the TRNC so much surely you also hat Britain, U.S.A. and all the rest of the Countries that have "invaded" another Country or does your paranoic phobia ( you might have to look that up in a Dictionary) not stretch that far

WARNING , personal insults as to question'PP's literacy levels are not acceptable please refrain

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 10:39

musin

firstly i always fly into ercan airport. i support my local airport!



where i was coming from is in the uk court system it is more or less impossible to win against the uk gov or its departments.

that is if you are a uk citizen! how are the trnc gov going to to win?



it is a well known fact that you have no chance against doctors , lawyers, ect,ect in the uk system.



i wish things for ercan were different, but i feel the trnc gov going to court in the uk is going to be a waste of time and money for them .

with a very very slim chance of winning.



unfair i know but the uk court system is still an old boys club.

Rogerdodger


Joined: 24/04/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 10:39

this thread started as direct flights to NC so why has Pte Pike, ruined the thread "again!!!!!" with his political drivel, leave politics at home and keep with the thread



RD

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 10:45

for discussion.... do we really want direct flights to attract the masses who will spoil the North, lets cease all developments put up all the property prices and only attract the elite. Lets aim for the high standards sometimes achieved by the hostelries on the Costa Esmeralda in Sardinia. Course it means most of us will have to move out!!

fire starter


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Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 11:28

i don't think direct flights will attract the masses, until the flight prices are more reasonable.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 11:43

firestarter. direct flights, weather also relatively cheap properties and rentals -( lets face it although things have risen in price its cheaper there than many other areas of Europe). Budget Airlines will mean cheaper flights do we want NC to turn into a Benidorm of the seventies and eighties?? Yes if this happens the people will flood in, ok but not yet that depends on other econoimc factors as well such as how long the recession goes on. A thread t on direct flights to me seems a waste of time our opinions dont really count do they?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 12:40

Budget Airlines will mean cheaper flights do we want NC to turn into a Benidorm of the seventies and eighties??



To be honest Rocky I think people, now, do want that. It'll bring much needed money to the trnc. Consider the alternative!

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 18:06

rogerdodger: "this thread started as direct flights to NC so why has Pte Pike, ruined the thread "again!!!!!" with his political drivel, leave politics at home and keep with the thread"



You describe yourself as some kind of consultant, Rog. How about consulting with some good background material about Cyprus? That way you may find the issue of direct flights to Ercan is a POLITICAL SUBJECT - hence totally in keeping with the thread.

gibson335


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 325

Message Posted:
02/12/2008 19:03

msg 72 rodger



couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!



msg77



usual boring boring boring yawn yawn yawn

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
03/12/2008 13:42

Come on guys. Lighten up and look at the big picture.

When you get to TRNC isn't it so beautiful, unspoilt and peaceful that you can live with 40 mins on the ground at Antaliya? As I am about to make the 4th trip this year I would like the cost to be a bit lower, but look at what you save when you get there and the price you have paid for your property. Yes I could get to Spain in 2 hours for half the price but I couldnt afford what I have in TRNC. Unless of course I was 40 miles inland as opposed to looking at the sea.

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 14:45

We,ve got it in the UK........idiots voted in by more idiots and criminals.(yes they are actually trying to get voters rights back for murderers).Democracy is the principle of 1 person and 1 vote,where everyone has equal say.You extrapolate this to its logical conclusion!Doesnt take long to work out why the whole planet has gone t***ts up!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 16:32

re msg 68 Gibson335



"Yet more sanctimonious claptrap." Hmm, what you seem to miss is this "claptrap" is pretty much the "official international line" outside of TR influence.. if it wasn't would be be having this same discussion on this topic on CY boards at this time of year.. Pikey's "GC friends" appear to be the UN , ECHR , EU, ...





"I sometimes wonder whether you can actually read or understand what people say." ..



Don't you think what really irritates you might be that he has a point, too ?



This is about Military power.. which extreme GCs foolishly ignored versus Legalities.. which Turkey had foolishly ignored..



2004's YES vote by TCs should have been more significant, but the GCs had elected a leader who "promised a fair solution"... and *I* think made sure Annan would fail and point out it was biased to TCs ( which it proabably was) .. but only because he didn't negotiate in good faith.



"TRNC" = no direct flights... LEGAL "roadblock"..

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 16:42

Breezyboy Msg 77



'Unspoilt', sorry where are you talking about?

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 16:48

Gibson msg 68.



Seems your attack on Pike was unwarranted seeing as you haven't put your real name or address on your profile..lol ...think you have changed it recently, now I wonder to myself why you felt the need to do this lol

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:09

Direct flights will happen in 2009,

Paul.

Cypfan


Joined: 10/10/2008
Posts: 104

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:10

Why so, Paul?

Garythegeezer


Joined: 05/02/2007
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:14

The 12th of never!

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:17

newlad - you ougt to be called "daft lad" - there will be no direct flights in 2009 or 2010.....



The Greeks hold the key and there is nothing in it for them to allow it - they've already got direct flights..





Nick

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:17

& thats a long long time

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:21

And Nick you are rightly called negativenick.Get with the programme matey think outside the box of course it will happen.Wait for Feb 8 2009.My lips are sealed,

Paul.

Garythegeezer


Joined: 05/02/2007
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:30

The 12th of never!

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:35

mess 87 - so the powers at be have sat down and decided to agree to direct flights...



Then someone in the meeting says "don't forget to ring newlad, to keep him posted".



Why is it you know and we don't then ?



What a load of co%k !





Nick

snakes



Joined: 28/10/2008
Posts: 1512

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:40

does it really matter ? we all keep coming back somehow no matter where the flights land !! you never know that if flights go direct you will then get the football boys ! hen weekends and stagg weekends ! blimey charlie lets barricade the airport ha ha and hope it never happens as per the euro !!!!!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:47

I suggest that at midnight tonight stop whatever you are doing and picture in your mind direct flights to Ercan. The mind is powerful and I think this will definately work. I forecast direct flights by May. If it doesn't happen you can all buy me a drink next time I'm over.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:52

Neg Nick says "no" and i'm usually right, in fact last time i was wrong was in 1974, just as the Morris Ital came out......





Nick

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:55

I just can't imagine any local official, builder, lawyer, estate agent etc. etc. thinking 'Oh yes...direct flights...just think of all those hoards of new poor punters just ripe to be ripped off...' can you?

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 21:56

No1, the only thing coming from my mind at midnight will be lots of "Z"s





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Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 22:20

Many of you are still forgeting that even if one could fly direct to Ercan which airlines would and at what cost. At present all aircraft have to go to Ercan via Turkey. We experienced many flights with CTA were there were not that many passengers no more than 40 on the UK to Turkey leg. Some of these got off at Dalaman or Antalya with the plane being filled by people getting on in Turkey to come to Cyprus. When flying from the UK to Ercan there is not a lot of passengers using this service.



Secondly which airlines are going to fly to Ercan? Many of the charters already fly to airports in the south which is the destination of many of the passengers.



Ercan has only parking facilities for something around 7 airplanes anyway so it is not big enough and requires a lot of investment to bring it up to scratch.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
08/01/2009 22:28

I agree with the second half of your post stubs but when I ever fly to Ercan the plane is packed ....both ways

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 00:12

Nick,

mess 89 you must have been in the same meeting as me,

"daft lad"

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 09:03

mess 97 - i'll be holding my breath until Feb 8th and am ready to appologise if needsbe, but i don't think i will have to though....





Nick

biker-babe


Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:08

was shown round a villa yesterday by an agent and she said that they's heard direct flights were due to start in the next few months.

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:16

I tell you what, if them direct flights start in feb i will be running round naked.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:20

"was shown round a villa yesterday by an agent and she said that they's heard direct flights were due to start in the next few months."......





Oh. That old chestnut eh?

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:26

No1Doyen....yes...and" the villa is built on Exchange land which means that the original GC owner has been given land in the south as compensation and is perfectly happy with that arrangement !"

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:26

cronos. Oh thats alright then....

biker-babe


Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:30

3 flights a day apparently.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:31

From Istanbul !

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:34

Get estate agent to put the topic on this forum, bet they get a wonderfull response, i think not

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 12:34

Nick says it ain't happening !!



Is that enough evidence ?





Nick

JimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 13:16

Biker Babe - didn't they mention that Richard Branson has already been over for a recce ?!!!

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 13:20

JimmyG



Yeah! But only because his balloon got blown off course and was shot down!





oops!

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 13:22

...or to promote Virgin Mobile at the 500 or so phone shops in Girne !

jacktheladett


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 528

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 13:23

If there is no hope of direct flights, why is Ercan having the big upgrade then? Longer runways to accommodate larger planes, terminal extensions and new shopping areas.



It makes you think, why bother if only a handful of Turkish airlines come here?



Plans are afoot, and the UK will be at the forefront.

JimmyG


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 900

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 13:48

You may well be right jtl, but let's hope those plans that are afoot also include the completion of the Girne bypass!!





Mods - apologies for going off topic, but it's on the way to the airport.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 13:52

Message 111. If there is no hope of direct flights, why is Ercan having the big upgrade then? Longer runways to accommodate larger planes, terminal extensions and new shopping areas.



Thats for the Exodus when it happens!

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 13:58

Bill I did not have you down as a doom & gloom merchant? CTA will be going to the English high court next month to apply for direct flights.

P

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 13:59

Doyen...msg 113....SNAP !



I was going to post something along the same lines "gearing up for the evacuation"....but thought I would be hounded for the negativity!



Thanks for taking the bullet.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 21:16

Re-Mess 100- best get your kit off Jay,

"daft Lad"

daveb


Joined: 06/11/2008
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 21:54

doyen you can leave at any time you dont have to wait for direct flights and cronos where are you leaving from the uk say something constructive or say nothing at all mate



db

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 22:52

Sorry neutralnick,

Ref message 107

You should now be saying 'it may or may not happen'

AJ

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 23:02

Wicks mess 114 do you have a link.Cant wait to see Jays tackle flapping in the wind,

Paul.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 23:14

I'm not going anywhere. I'm here for the duration. Direct flights will happen this year - guaranteed. If I'm wrong you can all buy me a drink.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 23:18

Paul. Message 114. You know it was a tongue in cheek remark.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 23:24

Bill,

Mess 121 you are so astute,

Paul.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/01/2009 23:27

Thanks Paul. I knew you'd understand.

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
10/01/2009 12:04

im all for it

vikingqueen



Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 241

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 19:15

When CAA gives the OK and GC!!

LondonCypriot


Joined: 15/12/2008
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 14:29

When Turkey annexes the North with mainland Turkey. This is when direct flights will start.

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 15:01

which will be never....

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 15:36

I think Juliet is in for a wee shock, as the favourites to win the next election in the TRNC are going to make the TRNC a state of Turkey.........whatch wait and see Juliet

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 16:00

not if the EU, USA RUSSIA & the rest of the international world have anything to do with it..... tattlad i think you listen to much to your local news which is only heard on the north of Cyprus.......

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:17

Msg 129,



I couldn't agree more. Mickey Mouse news outlets spouting made-up coffee shop gossip and wishful Anatolian thinking. But probably the Oramses would like it to happen too.

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:59

Msg 129 & 130, watch, wait, and see.

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 18:24

Oh, I nearly forgot ............. if the EU, USA RUSSIA & the rest of the international world have anything to do with it you said Juliet.....

they didn't have great deal to do about getting rid of 40,000 Turkish troops did they, if TRNC does become a Turkish state, there will not be a great deal anyone will do about it, in fact it will only strengthen the Turkish hand in all this.

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:17

tattlad,



I can tell you have the Turkish Cypriot people's best interests at heart - NOT.

canyavuz


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 363

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:47

tattlad and london cypriot,



It is very unlikely that n.cyprus is going to annex with turkey....

Just because EOKA tried to do this with greece, i dont mean Turkey is doing the same.



Turkey got what it wanted.....it's forces stationed on the island, and save the TC population..........that is it.

Although, it would be good for Turkey to do this.

They could annex the island with Turkey, but yet still have it's laws, migration restrictions and so on.

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
13/05/2009 20:25

18/05/2009 at the high court again. Fingers crossed for some fairness but if not then so what.

Still my airport of preference, comfy journey and a leg stretch in between. A short journey at the other end and bobs' your uncle, back in paradise.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
13/05/2009 20:44

C.C.

Sound and true information lets see how the debate at the high court goes.Lets hope its a victory for common sense and the north are granted direct flights.God knows we are due for some good news,

Paul.

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
13/05/2009 20:59

Rival travel companies providing holidays to paradise in the north, have joined together in an effort to persuade the UK Government and CAA to rethink its unjust policy and lift its ban. Initiated by CTA and supported by vested and interested holiday companies.

Perhaps fairness will prevail. I just hope the judge has an understanding and a feel for the area.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
13/05/2009 21:38

Hope the Judge is not a GC !

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 00:14

... following what appeared to have been an eternity and to a silent and hushed gallery



Judge: I have given this case carefull thought and consideration, it has taken me many years to come to my decission.

I have listened to the defence and prosecution and i Judge Delmonte will give my final word at the high court on 18/05/2009.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 00:23

Hi been reading in CT about Direct Traveller winning an award. He brings thousands here to the north apparently all be it via the south. He reckons to double last years figure by using regional UK airports and collecting at Larnaca and brining the passangers over. Well long may it continue. CTA are in trouble anyway and the new government have promised a shake up xxxxx

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 22:58

Hope the judge manages a leg over tonight and a good nights sleep. If your listening your honour, be brave.