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mark&beck



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It seems that the few last months our Electric Bills have rocketed:



607 TL - This month with 10 days in the UK



997 TL - Last month, home all month



Are we using excessive electricity or is this the norm??



ttoli


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19/02/2012 15:43

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Bearing in mind that I'm out all day and live on My own, In the summer it averages 200-250 TL, at the moment with Pool pump on only once a week for an hour or so 100-130 TL.



eyebob


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19/02/2012 15:54

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4 bed villa in Catalkoy,pool pump on 1 hour a day,immersion heater 2 hours a day,last months bill 158tl



judyr


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Autumn & Winter average bills 200 - 300 tl, Spring 100 - 180 tl, Summer 170 - 300tl. Our actual average over the year is 200 tl per month. Bills are not true monthly, they can be 25 days one month and 35 the next. Our latest bill is 283 tl for 578 units. Our villa has 3 bedrooms and we have a 10 x 5 pool. The pool pump is on just an hour a day in winter and 8 hours in the summer. I use a tumble dryer, electric blanket, heated towel rail and electric radiators (x2) in the winter months. In the summer we use the aircon a fair bit, with the bedroom one on all night. Washing machine is used 3 - 4 times a week and I use the oven most days. We also have a plasma tv which I understand use more than LCD. Basically we use as much as we need so I would say that yours is expensive.

Hope this helps.



reporting


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19/02/2012 16:03

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How many units used mark ?



Mindy



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19/02/2012 16:04

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I would say that is very excessive for 1 months electric. How often is your pool pump on in a day? Do you use aircons for heat? They can be very expensive..



judyr


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19/02/2012 16:04

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Forgot the immersion heater - 2 hours a day!



Perry


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19/02/2012 16:22

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Seems a lot. We have 3 bed with pool. Whilst we are not there, pool is TRL85 per month. We had people there for one week in Jan and it was TRL227 - heating, tv, lights, pool pump etc etc. yours seems expensive - I would get it checked if I were you.



Rainbowbaby


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19/02/2012 16:32

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Over 1000.....



Rainbowbaby


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19/02/2012 16:36

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We have a 3 bed small villa with pool..



MrsSnakes



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19/02/2012 17:03

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Mine for mid Dec to mid Jan was 613tl and we are on builders electric, I dread the summer months!!



mikelapta



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19/02/2012 17:16

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I've got 2 bed and an office villa in Lapta,with pool,and live alone.Last bill is for 149tl,which is about average.

Pool on 2x1hr a day,Immersion maybe 2x2 hour a week.Never aircon.Most heat this cold winter from a log-burning stove,wood free from my lemon grove.Oh electric blanket on MOST nights.

Hint:turn all your stand-by switches off.

.....2:Assume electricity is sooooo expensive.immersion heaters TURN off when not needed.My solar panels give me shower hot water,at 4 each day.



Mike



ozankoymum


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19/02/2012 17:56

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can I ask everybody what their cost is per unit.. Ours has gone up, the first 292 units are 0.38, second 292 units are 0.44 3rd 292 units 0.52 and highest band is 0.65



is everybodys the same



mark&beck



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19/02/2012 19:16

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Mgs 5 - Reporting



Units used - last month 1583 this month 1061.



Sideways



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19/02/2012 19:33

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I'm sure most of these meters are not calibrated correctely.

I once asked to see a calibration certificate and got the usual " shrugged shoulders".



ozankoymum


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19/02/2012 20:31

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This is wierd!!



Studying my electric bill more I see that usually the first 3 bands of units are 292 each... last month it was 233 each.



That means last month I went up to the highest band after only 699 units of electric where normally it after 876 units!!!



Tangerineman


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19/02/2012 20:34

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I find the electricity horrendously expensive

I holiday let and in eight months April - Nov 2010 my bill was the equivalent of 3200 pounds



EamonnMc


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19/02/2012 20:56

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msg 17,



Don't know what you charge for rent but there must be very little left after all bills are paid.



rowlo



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19/02/2012 21:10

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msg17 , thats 100 per week ,



we were in our place for 3 weeks over xmas & new year ,



cooked , washing machine , water heater , electric blankets , air/con on heat everynight , for maybe 4hrs , plus all the other electrical appliances , ie , kettle , toaster , tv , stereo , laptop , etc etc , and our bill was 130 tl ,



3 bedroom apartment .



birdman



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19/02/2012 22:55

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Check post RIP OFF CHECK YOUR ELECTRIC BILLS NOW



I have a three bedroom villa with pool and have posted my last three months electric bills



I have been using a humidifier and occasionally the immersion heater.



Nov.Bill 286TL

Dec Bill 385TL

Jan Bill 370TL



Gerry



Tangerineman


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19/02/2012 23:03

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It is a big villa to be fair and often has 8+ people staying there with a/c in every bedroom etc

Still it shocked me when I totted it all up for my accounts

Apparently TRNC elec is just about the most expensive in the world



mark&beck



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20/02/2012 07:47

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Rowlo & Birdman.. I can only dream of bills like yours, maybe we should see about getting our meter calibrated.



kibsolar


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20/02/2012 15:40

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Hi mark & beck.. you did not tell us whether you use a/c for heating.. or any other info about your energy use.

one single 12.000 btu a/c unit to be runned for 10 hrs per day only will account for approx 400 units per month. 1 hr immersion heater per day comes to 90 units a month... all other appliances as TV, frigde, booster-waterpump,computer this kind.. not moren then 200 units. this is the reason why the cheapest "first tariff" is set at approx 300 units. all other, a/c, pool... is "luxury". KIBTEK cannot cope with a price of 0,38 Lira (first band) .. if we all would use "only that" KIBTEK would be be (totally) bancrupt soon.

usually a wrong calibration is NOT the reason for a high eletricity bill.



negativenick


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20/02/2012 16:04

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my combined electric and water bill is circa 20 pounds a month - never really varies month to month as its hot and sunny most days....



Cable TV and 4mb internet - 20 pounds a month too....



And they laughed when i stuck 2 fingers up to the KFC and moved to Thailand....



MrsSnakes



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My average daily usage is 15.5 units working out my bills, gas central heating and water, the usual appliances apply, dishwasher most days, washing machine 3-4 times a week and I think the pool has been reduced to 2 hours or under a day. No air con heating during the winter. We do have a music studio which would account for some unit useage each day. A friend recently had a very high bill whilst their place is empty, upon checking the pool man had left the pool on 24hours instead of 2 x aday timer. Have you checked pool if you have one?



EamonnMc


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20/02/2012 16:27

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Msg 24,



I think that many laughed with delight to have you gone, Nick, not quite the same thing. Glad you're happy where you are.



maria1


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20/02/2012 17:48

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Electricity is very eratic at present and as a management company we always check units and bills for our clients. Some of the bills we have tried to identify problems in the house but simply cannot find any that indicate extra electricty consumtion. Fuse boxes and fridges all off. Isolator swithces all off. Only pool pump running 2 hours a day. I smell a rat and think one way or another we are all paying off the national debt!



Our bill at home for last month dated 10 Feb was 366.93TL and 727 units used. The month before even higher. We are both at work all day. Pool on for 2 hours every day. Emersion 1.5 hours every day. Washing machine every day. Oven around 4 days a week. Have found using slow cooker cost effective.



ozankoymum


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20/02/2012 19:33

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The 20 days we were here last month we used a single aircon unit in the living area for maximum of 3 hours a day, tv and light only on for 4 hours a day as we are all in bed for about 9! use 3 electric blankets for an hour, washing machine every day, immersion 1-2 hours a day



Mrs Snakes I am going to do what you have done and check my daily unit usage with heating then without heating and see how much my aircon is costing.



Looking at my meter closely it is strangely having a few quick spins even when nothing apart from the fridge is switched on and it has nothing to do with pool or water pump kicking in..



negativenick


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20/02/2012 21:27

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mess 26 - prob the ones stuck in the trnc, bored to tears with the same old same old -huded roun te fire freezing their nuts off...



A shiny new morris marina looses its appeal 30 years down the line when there are so many ew models kicking round....



FlyingFish


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20/02/2012 22:20

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Think I'd rather be posiitive. Kop Kum ka!



mark&beck



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NN -If it so great in Thailand - Why do you staying in on you PC commenting on Cyprus 44 all-day!



mark&beck



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21/02/2012 08:24

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My wife did a test this morning:



FOR 1 HOUR: of aircon in the living room, immersion, 2 showers, a wash load, dishwasher load, no tv, one cup of tea.



used 71 units



In the low band that costs 26.98tl



Groucho



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21/02/2012 08:32

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Definitely something wrong should have used about a tenth of that - are you sure no-one is tapping in to your electricity? Maybe you should try switching it off at the box at night and see whose lights go off at the same time...

Mrs G



Groucho



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21/02/2012 08:51

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Have you tried switching everything off at the fuse box inside the house and then checking the meter outside to see if it is still going around?



mark&beck



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21/02/2012 09:21

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I'll get the wife to give it a try Groucho...I cant belive that its working correctly using that amount of units



birdman



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21/02/2012 09:28

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It looks like you are being tapped into as Groucho suggests.

Do as he suggests and switch off the mains in the house then check your outside meter to see if it's going around.

If it is then switch that off also and look around at surrounding houses to see which lights go off. Then switch back on to see if that hose lights come back on again.



Gerry



Groucho



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21/02/2012 09:34

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Just had a thought - you didn't read the last digit as that represents a tenth of a unit, in which case you have used 7.1 units which is still high.

Mrs G



MrsSnakes



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21/02/2012 09:41

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Msg 35, something not right!! 1 hour of general use, ie appliances etc, and 71 units? The units you gave for last month which fully occupied averages 51 units a day, based on a 31 day month.



ozankoymum


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21/02/2012 10:55

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YES you are right, Im a total dimwit, I read the last spin as a unit so its 7.1 units used.



But with that being my busiest time of the day I dont see how Im using 53 units a day, I would have to have everything on including the immersion and aircon washer dishwasher, kettle, toaster, hairdyer, showers for 7-8 hours a day which I most definately dont.



Im going to do the checking that you all suggested.



Thank you all for your help and feedback,, Im getting obsessed with my electric consumption..haha



wanderer


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21/02/2012 11:41

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http://www.maplin.co.uk/plug-in-electricity-cost-and-usage-calculator-223573

http://www.maplin.co.uk/e2-elink-wireless-electricity-monitor-266240

The above machines are self explanatory and can work in any currency you can see what costs you the most



scruff


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21/02/2012 13:12

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We have one of these. Owl brand make all sorts of monitors.



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Micro-Wireless-Electricity-Energy-Monitor/dp/B002KWP2EK/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329822091&sr=1-3



Similar to the items in msg 40. but cheaper since it doesn't have the currency setting. Not really needed as long as you are sure that you are on the right tariff. We reset it to zero each month when we get the new bill. It's very useful for monitoring your daily usage & you soon begin to see what is using a lot of power. Like an electric kettle for mins. immersion heater etc. It will obviously pick up when you might have left something on that should not be. I did this once with the iron in a spare room.

I am currently getting a reading of 2.04 kw per hour, since there is a halogen heater running on 2 bars upstairs. 800 watts, a water machine & the fridge freezer plus 2 PCs. You can immediately see when the fridge freezer or pool pump cut in.

So far this month

ctd.



scruff


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ctd.

we have used 265 units since the last reading which was am. 9th February. So we are using 265/12 units per day=22.08.

For those that worry about big bills or get a shock when they receive the latest bill, I would highly recommend getting one of these.



scruff


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One last thing. Assuming that you have pool maintenance. Make sure you tell your pool people exactly how long to run the pool pump each day & ensure that they stick to it. We have our's well trained now. We pay the electricity bill & not them. A pool pump running for too many hours is one of the biggest culprits with a large bill.

I know it's unlikely, but do any of you with high usage use an electric hob? Believe or not there are people out there with them. A Gas oven is also much cheaper to run than an electric one, which is another high user.

btw. The meter is now reporting 1.07 units per hr.



mamachina


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Swith off the water machine! Dont need ice cold water at this time of year, and just boil sufficient for what you need for your coffee/tea when you need it! (Fill your mug or whatever and put in kettle so you dont heat more than you need) Know its not much, but as they say, every lit........ If you really need the odd glass of really cold, have a bottle in the fridge, and top it up, after all the fridge is still on!



MrsSnakes



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21/02/2012 16:23

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mamachina, we do all of that, in fact we have the water machine switched off all year now as it makes a dreadful noise!!

Ozankoymum, have you checked your pool pump timer yet? Is another house connected to your meter?



scruff


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msg 44

I never use the water machine for hot water at any time of the year. It's okay for black coffee, but never hot enough for white coffee or tea. I do use it for cold water because I find without it that the water is not cold. Just a personal choice. Given the temperatures in our house (no CH), I doubt if it uses much electricity. I suppose though that I could do as you suggested & have a bottle in the fridge instead.



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