Property completions

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 21:48

If your property has not been completed by a developer after payment & stamp duty has been paid & registered, does anyone know if you have the right to complete it yourself

Ivor70


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 22:06

Hi Ivorbindun



Welcome to the forum !!!!



I have no idea, but Simbas may be able to assist?



Regards Ivor

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 22:08

All we need now is Ivor the engine !!



Cooper

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 22:37

if you have paid your developer all your payments you might as well give up on him finishing if you are in conflict you might have regesterd but there are a lot more things involved i have a building company you can contact me at my vie my web site http://www.braceybuilders.com for advice and help

Ivor70


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 22:42

Cooper there are a few others...



ivorbinwaiting years for my villa, or the famous porn star turned property developer ivorbigun...err bank account that is!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 22:44

Ivorbindun- don't hold your breath for a refund off the builder if you complete it yourself.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 22:45

How about Ivor Largeone!

Ivor70


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 22:47

I like it, sorry Ivorbindun...dont mean to distract from your original question

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 22:47

Don't forget Ivor Villaforsale......he's on here a lot lately!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
14/01/2009 23:45

IVORBEENDONE.

Yes you could complete by using another builder BUT don't forget that until you have your title deeds the builder continues to own the property. Imagine you complete all the work with the extra costs and then the builder "claims" he is bankrupt. Your house will then belong to the bank. Best to let it stand, get your ptp and then ask for your title deeds and when you know its truely yours then complete.



If its the developer I am thinking of, I wouldn't hold much faith in him handing over the deeds. He was good to the odd person, who unbewittingly has promoted the site and developer and allowed people to walk into his trap.



Again and again on this forum people have been encouraged not to promote their builder, advocate or estate agent until they have their property and site completed and they are holding their deeds. What has happened on this development proves this point.

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 00:00

Does anyone know where I can find a little fat builder called ivorstarted digging a pond/lake

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 00:00

Thanks Bradus



Spot on

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 10:07

If you are prepared to pay the extra costs in getting the build finished yourself then why not speak to Marian Stokes and see if she can broker a deal between yourself and the developer to get him to guarantee that he will transfer title. Maybe if the pressure is off him to complete he will be happy to comply.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 20:19

Sound advice J&J,

In such circumstances you have to be willing to explore all avenues. Troy Lake buyers please correct me if I'm wrong but someone posted, a considerable time ago, and stated that like many on this development she had paid the total cost of the house upfront to take advantage of the hugh cash discount the developer was offering.



If this is the case it makes it even more important that you seek expert advice. You need to look at how much this is going to cost to complete. Negotiating with a builder who has good intentions but has sadly run out of money is very different from negotiating with a "Gary Robb" type character who has taken the money and run.. You still need to find out where you stand and what options are available and how well proteced you are before any negotiations.



HPBG would help you explore this. Good Luck

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 20:30

It's very hard to negotiate with a developer that has shut down their UK office, does not reply to any correspondance, emails & phone calls

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 20:40

Is there no body on the site?

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 20:46

Bradus



I do not have any contact numbers for anyone on site, if they are still there!!!!



Even our well known land advocate as stopped returing our calls.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 20:51

Have they gone bankrupt?

Was the same advocate representing nearly all the buyers and was he recommended by the developer?

Have those that have completed got their PTP and title deeds?

Did people on site get their contracts stamped?

Molly


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 299

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 20:52

Is the developer the registered owner of the land? Who is the developer, other posters may be able to help.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
15/01/2009 20:53

Email me , have an idea that may help

regards

p

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 00:02

Bradus



Dont know if they have gone Bankrupt. Yes the advocate is the same one you are thinking of.

Dont know the answers to your other questions.



Molly



We think one of the directors is the registered land owner. See message 14 for the developers name.



Pilgrim



Would like to email you, but cant see your email address.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 00:10

Look on my profile.

Izzet why have you changed my age its not my birthday till sunday! cheeky!

regards

p

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 00:29

Pilgrim



As a new member I can't see your email address yet

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 00:32

Ivorbindun, paulatport@yahoo.co.uk

regards

p

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 01:33

so why is the t word taboo?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 01:52

I don't think the T word is taboo - much has already been said about this company.

If what you say is constructive and accurate it shouldn't be deleted. I can understand that many buyers are angry and frustrated at lack of progress but stick with it and you might get some good advice and support from each other. There are alot of buyers on this developement all in same boat.

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 01:52

yes bradus i understand that but why does someone get banned for 2 days and 3 days later is not re instated as promised??? me suspicious!!! we are getting some good advice but i feel things are reaching boiling point!!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 02:07

I am lost for words really. Hope Pilgrim or Ivor has some news (message 20) regarding whats going on. It is being in the dark and having no control that causes the frustration and anger.

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 02:05

this morning programme tomorrow at 9am has asked for viewers opinions on overseas property disasters!! I think there may be a few relating to the T company!! Watch this space Mr V!!!

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 02:17

yes i will speak with ivor tomorrow on that! Troylake have closed their office and Vahib solicitors office told me they dont know where their MD and Raif are! They then say they are at A or B which is in contradiction to what they said yesterday! last time I checked fraud and deception were criminal offences not civil!! Lets see if I get banned for this post and see if t have connections within the forum!!!

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 02:24

I think i will contact cherie blair and see if she is aware of what an elusive scheming `solicitor` with friends in high places paid her salary for several weeks! I wonder if he paid her with my money or that of other hard working folk??? Would love to see the money trail on that one! One for the old bill I reckon!!

keithr


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 720

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 10:27

In Chelsey village !!!



He's called Ivandugaholeandleftit.

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 17:11

Pilgrim



Just sent email

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 17:24

Hi IvorBindun , can i ask who is your advocate ? . I've had my villa completed for about 5 yrs . So other than informing them of when i will be using the villa ,i don't have any contact with them , but i was told by their customer services rep , that they were in the throws of moving to new premises and she would give the new details , as of yet we don't have them . Have you tried contacting the rep . I do have a number for her , unless that differs now also

Regards , Simbas

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 17:32

Hi Simba



Tried all contacts including advocate A.E.

Heard that their will be no new office in UK, but the new office in Cyprus is nearly ready!!!!!!!!!!! This was from an employee of the solicitors office by mistake.



Have you had your title deeds/ Kocan yet?



Do you know if anyone is on site?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 17:58

Hi Ivor , i have'nt been there since oct and there were certainly people working there then . I jotted down the numbers of the villa's being worked on .We have the same Advocate as you . The last contact we had from him was in Nov 08 .i have just this minute contacted Raif's PA and got through . Raif will be in the office on Monday . If you have spoken to her , then you know whats happening at the moment and because it is of a personal nature affecting Raif & Hassan i'm sure you will understand why i am not divulging it on board . No we don't have our Kocan yet , i was under the impression that would happen when the site is completed .

Regards , Simbas

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 18:07

Hi Oldwilly !!! , I was told exactly where they were , so it's all a bit strange that they did'nt tell you .

Regards , Simbas

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 18:35

Simbas



It seems to be the same problem with all the buyers whos property is not yet started or completed. They think that if they dont contact us we will just go away.

The only people they contact are new buyers about to part with money for property they have no chance of getting.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 18:39

Have you spoken to Raif's PA ?

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 18:43

Simbas



No. I did not know Raif had a PA or a contact number for him/her

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 18:51

If you e-mail me i will give it to you

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 18:53

Oldwilly



Ref message 31



Just been told the directors are having lunch tonight with Lord Lucan & Elvis

but not the venue.

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 18:56

Simbas



I only found & joined this forum this week, so I can not see your email address

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 19:11

Hi Ivor , Re 43 i know you mean't it as a joke , but believe me there is some genuine personal anguish and grief going on here .

i will e-mail you with the number .

Regards , Simbas

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 19:20

Simbas



There is also a lot of genuine personal anguish and grief going on in my family, caused by Troy Lake, but I still have to go to work and get on with my job every day. I am now having to pay two large mortgages, one for a Villa I cant even use or rent out.

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 19:48

Hi Ivor



I am getting a Villa on othello 1 & also having trouble getting emails & calls answered.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 20:47

Hi Ivor / Terminator , I am sure you are going through personal anguish and grief , i've no doubt about it , and i genuinely hope that they will do all in their power to sort things out for you , and for the many many others by the sounds of it who are also experiencing similar treatment , it must be so frustrating for you .Ivor i have e-mailed you Raif's PR's number this afternoon , so try giving her a call . When i spoke to her , she had no reason to lie to me or put me off in any way because as you say i have a completed villa , so i don't pose a threat . But what she did tell me hadnothing to do with Troy Lake Business or any business . If you give her a ring on Monday she will probably tell you , i just don't think it should come from me

Regards , Simbas

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 21:14

Do you think that these are lies then Terminator ? I agree you should pursue your investment no doubt about it . Not taken personally

regards , simbas

Ivor70


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 21:54

Hi Terminator



Funny you should say that, Shazza has not posted on forum since Sept 08, probably under bosses orders.



There is nothing to stop her posting under an alias though ?



I hear Raif does it regularly to keep a breast of the current feel. Well that is in between his many hospital visits while his wife is in her 3 week old labour.

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
16/01/2009 22:48

Does anyone know if its true that Bradus has had to resign after naming and shaming on this thread?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 00:08

Toady,

No its certainly not true. Look through the threads and see if you can see where I have named and shamed anyone. Yes I've asked and answered lots of questions, yes I've directed people to the HBPG and yes I have made many suggestions and repeated how sorry I am that honest, hardworking individuals end up in this position through no fault of their own.



As for naming and shaming there have alway been enough buyers on this development to do this themselves.



All the best

Bradus

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 00:21

Bradus



Sorry I got it wrong, no offence meant. I understood from another thread that this was the case but obviously I got the wrong end of the stick. It was obviously another moderator. Please accept my apology, I was concerned that by trying to help us you had caused a problem for yourself. I'm glad this wasn't the case.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 01:00

No problem Toady,

May I make a suggestion?

As there are now a few of you from the same development, you all get together and share information, preferably with the HBPG. I note that buyers from another development have their own log in site within the HBPG that allows them to share information and news about progress or lack of it. This promotes good communication between everyone and also allows the HBPG to communicate with you all with regards to any suggestions they might make too.

If the developer suddenly says work has started you employ someone to assess the progress being made on a monthly basis. With so many people involved the cost shared would be minimal and you will know quickly if it is yet another excuse. Looking for builders in my opinion is a really poor excuse! building has practically ground to a halt and most developers have the pick of the crop. (unless they don't pay them) Also if you are using an advocate whose interest is with the developer CHANGE him.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 01:07

cont

Pick an advocate recommended by HPBG and people who have successfully won their cases......not many but there are some.See Cyprus Today buyers have seen positive outcomes.

There is strength in numbers and I'm sure you will be more sucessful reaching your aims if you unite and agree a more constructive, controlled approach.



Kind regards

BRADUS

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 14:05

Bradus



Thank you for the advice, it seems very sound and I will look into it. The trouble is I am now getting to the stage where I just want to get out of everything and forget all about Cyprus and our dream of a holiday and future retirment home. It's taking too much of a toll on family life here in England.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 15:12

Yes,



I am sure it is and no matter what has happened your health and family must always remain your number 1 priority. Houses are just bricks and mortar and withou a happy family residing in them they are just shells.



Don't give up though, as I said there are alot of you in the same position and if you unite, it shares the stress involved and means that many are contributing rather than one person having all the responsibility. The Amarenta ladies might have some good advice based on their own experiences. Fear of the unknown is often the reason for anxiety and your starting point has to be, WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHY?

I know alot of people are behind the scenes working with their lawyers in Britain and Cyprus trying to establish this. When you have the answer then you will know what action is needed.

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 16:46

toady



Good advice from Bradus, don't let the B******s grind you down.

Just been sent your email address from another buyer, is it OK to email you so that we can communicate as a group off this forum as well?

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 16:55

Toady we spoke on the phone yesterday! Just had lunch with a solicitor friend of mine who is speaking to his best mate monday who is a county court judge but he had some good advice for me today especially in relation to contract and other things! his wife was also present who is a county court clerk! i will try and call you later if not i will be on my mobile!

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 18:46

Ivor



Yes, of course you can email me. The more of us who keep in contact the more informed we will be.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 19:39

Well done guys.

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
17/01/2009 23:54

Simbas



Thanks for emailing the PA's contact number

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
18/01/2009 17:40

Can anyone please advise how to get your PTP application number. My Advocate has said that this has been applied for but has not provided me with a number?

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
18/01/2009 17:54

Ivor, I had a problem getting hold of my PTP number and requested it from my Advocate 3 times before the gave it to me.

I had to get a bit shirty with them in the end but they gave it in the end.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
18/01/2009 21:30

ivorlostmycash ring any tills

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
19/01/2009 18:36

rowlo



On the troylake thread, and now on this thread. Why do you like rubbing it in to people who are already upset?



Your name isn't 'Raif' by any chance is it?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
19/01/2009 19:50

Re message 70 , you don't have to be so insensative surely . Show a little empathy , it could have been you going through all this anguish !!

Simbas

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
19/01/2009 21:37

didnt mean to upset anyone but look at the name who started this always look on the bright side and never give in really hope uhaventbeendone

Ivor70


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
19/01/2009 23:36

Ivorbindun...re msg 68.



Did you get your PTP number from AE? What site and plot number are you?

Ivor70


Joined: 04/09/2008
Posts: 19

Message Posted:
20/01/2009 11:18

Oh dear.......terminator got terminated! Sure that he'll be back

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
20/01/2009 11:49

Who terminated the terminator, anyone know.

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
20/01/2009 20:18

rowlo msg 67



Yes I have been dun big time

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
20/01/2009 20:21

Ivor70 msg 68



Still no reply re ptp number.



If I told you my plot number I'd have to shoot you!!!!!!!

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
20/01/2009 22:14

msg 71 keep your head up and fight really hope you get sorted

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
20/01/2009 23:41

Ivorbindun- myself and Ivor70 are interested to get in touch off the forum!!

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
21/01/2009 00:12

TROYLAKE-ARE U THE WORST DEVELOPER IN N CYPRUS?

TROYLAKE-DO U EVER REFUND MONIES U PROMISED IN WRITING?

TROYLAKE-DO U EVER ANSWER UR PHONES?

TROYLAKE-DO U EVER COMPLETE VILLAS FOR UR PAID UP CUSTOMERS?

TROYLAKE-DO U KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CUSTOMER RELATIONS?

TROYLAKE-DO U EVER TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

TROYLAKE- I SUGGEST HASSAN VAHIB THAT U BEGIN TO COMPLETE UR VILLAS OR SHOULD I SAY OUR VILLAS & THAT U REPAY OTHERS WHAT U OWE THEM!!! I HOPE U HEED THIS ADVICE AS WE KNOW U READ THE FORUM!!!



YOURS FAITHFULLY `OLD WILLY `

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
21/01/2009 20:38

Oldwilly msg 74



Will do soon. I have some things to find out first

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
21/01/2009 22:41

Evening IVOR!!

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
21/01/2009 23:01

Evening oldwilly



If we all keep digging deep (not the pond) we will get the right result !!!!!!!!

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
21/01/2009 23:54

So the ponds off the agenda then? When did u hear that?

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
22/01/2009 00:13

oldwilly





Don't know about the pond, have you heard anything?

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
22/01/2009 00:18

It seemed from your comment on message 78 that u knew something! Also how can u submit a post when ur not shown logged on!!

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
22/01/2009 01:30

Anyhow Ivorbindun it would be an HONOR to be ur neighbour and one day sit under the old OAK tree and have a beer together!!

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
22/01/2009 22:28

Hello oldwilly



I was logged on. Looking forward to having that beer together. Could be a few years as yet though.

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
22/01/2009 22:48

It may be in your interest to get in touch with me sooner rather than later as things on going but need to verify your identity Ivor! Excuse me for being suspicious but u know how it is!! I dont give a monkeys if HV knows who i am! Anyhow he would be pretty stupid if he didnt! Well he aint stupid but he is a lot of things eh!!! My web designer has nearly finished my troylake Coup de gras!! Be sure not to miss it cos u wont be able to!!!!!!!!!!

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
22/01/2009 23:04

Troy Lakers....I am supportive of your cause (just don't ask for a donation ;-) )...but could I suggest that you start a new thread headed Troy Lakers or whatever,with the briefest on details (non-libellous) about your plight,so that potential new purchasers can make reasoned decisions prior to handing over money.

Perhaps contacting you off Board or directing them to HBPG would be useful?



At the moment your posts and grievances are spread all over the place and could be easily missed by a new influx of innocents!



The very best of luck to you all.

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
22/01/2009 23:14

appreciate that cronos but when the T word seems to appear in a thread headline-whoops someone gets banned again!!! many of us are now in off forum contact and attempting to get ivorbindun on board but need to check out his validity due to double agents!! Ill headline a thread with pleasure but watch me get banned! And i wouldnt want to do that would i !!!

SpongeBob


Joined: 22/01/2009
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
23/01/2009 11:44

nice picture of the man doing his bit for Tuorism on the link below but you need a translator i think it says he has a new business in Edgware road



http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/popup.php/cat/5/news/62517/PageName/Ekonomi

IvorBindun


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Posts: 29

Message Posted:
23/01/2009 19:40

SpongeBob



Would you book a holiday with this company?

When you arrive at your Hotel it will only be half finished, if even started.

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
23/01/2009 23:15

My turkish is pretty awful but the article clearly states HV advocate!! solicitor my a***.....builder my a***!!!!!!!

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 00:06

At the end of the day..............No matter what has been said about Troylake they have failed to deliver and purchasers have no properties to see after waiting 4 years. All promises of refunds have never been delivered.



You have mentioned but a few of the unhappy customers, there are many more than the above mentioned. Come on, if you wish to uphold the reputation of this company, lets have agreed finishing dates for all to see. We can then make our own judgements as to whether you are commited to finishing this development or its simply more broken promises.



So far your lengthy posts have contained little substance or evidence to show that in your opinion it is only the minority of Troylakers who are dissatisfied.

You are claiming to be a satisfied customer ........how many more of you are there compared to the number of people who have handed money over this last 4 years and still have no completed villas?



Evidence from site visits seems to contradict what you are saying.

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 00:39

Turkish10....you raise some interesting points...but you may have had more sympathy/ credibility if they had not been so shouty,threatening and confrontational.Your appraisal of the situation on TL developments is certainly a counterpoint to the majority of posts I've read on here before.



I know you've took the easy option by saying you won't reply to any replies,but I'm confused that you complain here about how this site has been ruined over previous months,and you have had your property for 3 years......but your profile says you only joined 3 days ago and on the Mayfair Park Tatlisu thread you are enquiring about buying a property and saying you are "new to the site".



Very confusing !

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 01:46

Turkish 10 if u want to speak with me face to face to discuss this in person just name the place on neutral ground and i will gladly meet up anytime.

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 13:09

Turkish 10



First of all I would appreciate it if you did not call worried buyers 'idiots'.

As we all know communications with troylake are hit and miss, even for buyers like me who have had meetings in their office.

I also think you have put far too much personal information on your post about individual buyers and the directors.

Your morals don't seem to cover confidentiality as whatever you were told in confidence should not have been put in the public domain.

For somebody who doesn't agree with the way this forum is now used you seem to delight in pouring more fuel on the fire!



I for one will be ignoring any of your future postings as they will only serve to upset people more. We trust that the developer will now be communicating as well with us as they have with you.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 15:45

sounds like he is the developer toady///

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 16:54

Turkish 10



I do not wish to put myself into the 'idiot' category, I want to be in the 'satisfied' category of 'I now own a completed villa'.

By the way, which plot are you buying?

oldwilly


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 16:56

Turkish 10- like i said lets meet! I dont profess to hide behind a veil of secrecy!! You`re right on one thing `we dont know anything!`thats just the problem! Until you`re ready for that face to face I suggest you pay your informant more then you might get some correct information! Bye for now!

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 16:56

Turkish10.....I know you think I have no business even commenting on this thread as I am not buying on Troy Lake.



However,my comments are actually more generic regarding construction/development companies in general.



Here in the UK construction industry,I have seen all too often how companies have engineered there own demise after failing to deliver,by citing external influences and negative publicity forcing the company to go under.



In your previous posts you have already talked of any criticism "causing the company further problems" and "bringing the company down".

I sincerely hope that for you and other purchasers,particularly those that have yet seen nothing for their money,this get out clause is not used as an excuse to shut down and walk away from the problems.



I was led to believe that North Cyprus is a small place , everyone knows everyone elses business , and reputation is everything.

Hopefully this will mean that there will be an amicable resolution soon for eve

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 16:57

Turkish10



has had his completed villa for three years now.

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 17:00

Turkish 10



I have nothing to hide, I am buying plot 29 on Othello 1.

pecky


Joined: 02/01/2008
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 22:22

Could Turkish10 give us a telephone number to contact TL direct? Seems incredible that no replies to telephone messages on mobiles to HV have been replied and direct enquiries have no number for offices in Green Lanes! WHAT IS GOING ON? When you speak of the poor lady who is expecting a baby with complications you need to know that some of the purchasers have medical problems - some brought on by the stress of handing over money with nothing to show for it and feeling as if we have been cheated out of life savings! We will be dead before we get our villa but I expect that will be a result for you, no more hassle! We need phone contact number please to discuss face to face, as you say.

diane62


Joined: 18/04/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
24/01/2009 23:02

read these posts with interest, 2 comments seem appropriate.

re 'offer to refund monies once resold' how can you resale something thats not built, or imagine any further sales are likely.

the keen supporter sounds like a scammer.

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 08:38

turkish10



Thanks for the good news. I now know of two happy buyers with completed villas, you & Simbas.

Shame about the other 88 plots !!!!!!!!!!!!

IvorBindun


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 29

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 08:41

turkish10



Trying to work out how you got your name.

The first part is easy, does the second part have anything to do with your IQ level?

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 20:24

I see turkish10's postings have been removed.

Well moderated, as most of the comments were too personal

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 20:38

tell them the news on this thread toady dont start another post this is where theyre looking for help toadys got phone numbers for you good luck guys

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 20:44

guys developers read these threads for feedback try and keep your post up top dont start new ones on the same subject if its bad keep it on top more chance of getting it sorted

toady


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 62

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 21:32

Thanks for the advice Rowlo.



If any buyers want contact numbers for Troylake, look on their website at a new update with email addresses and phone numbers. I have also put this information on a new thread called 'Troylake news 2009'.

SpongeBob


Joined: 22/01/2009
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
27/01/2009 17:35

page 31 in the kibris newspaper today will be of interest to you all there is an online version but you need to register its free