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deecyprus4


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What a strange hotel it is, all greek themed and in the north, does anyone have any facts about this huge place?



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We stayed there for acouple of years ago when it first opened. It's a huge place - massive swimming pool. Service and food was very good. We were going to go back last year for the week-end however they put the prices up b5 200% so we didn't bother. Personally I prefer the Mercure. We've never stayed there but you can pay 30 a head for a day pass which includes all drinks and a lunch fit for a king. Excellent value



deecyprus4


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But why have the owners made it greek themed ...I would have thought that was a bit contentious



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I don't know Dee. The Manager there said they were going to build 10 themed Hotels along that coastline. Perhaps that's what the idea is, just like Vegas.



deecyprus4


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Yea could be...and that awful lions gate place in famagusta ..that is so over the top and vulgar lol



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msg3



Have you forgotten 90% of hotels on the north BELONG to gcs... sounds like you want a mini turkey in the north of CYPRUS.......



deecyprus4


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Juliet go boil your head ..



deecyprus4


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Juliet if you go right back thru history the turks were here first



juliet


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dee you are such a lady..... & you from cheshire



andre 514


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the artemis is said to be a copy of the temple to artemis at efes in turkey



yes, this would have been a pagan structure,

but is now part of turkey's heritage too since the greek world in turkey

was finally extinguished in the early 1920's:

after a bungled invasion of the smyrna region by modern greece,

yet another example of the poor old sods overreaching themselves

and finding out all too late, that when turkey bites back, it can be unpleasant



whoever you think the land or hotel really "belongs" to, or "belonged" to

this and future plans for the bafra coast

indicates that the investors and banks believe they are all there for good



personally I don't like this type of megadevelopment, be it anywhere in cyprus,

the horrors of southern spain or dubai etc etc

nonetheless there is a world market for resort complexes of this variety



it sounds like several of us are in juliet's bad books, either for being unladylike or insufficient attention to spelling



simbas



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Bless her !



deecyprus4


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Juliet the upper classes are generally more vulgar than anyone else...you not being one wouldn't understand that



gates


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it is israli money not greek or turk as is most things that side new port and all



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i bet its built on greek cypriot land though.



Cruella


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When I went to the Artemis in its opening week it looked tatty and tacky, so I don't suppose it would have improved with age!



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its owned by kaya resorts which is turkish











maybe



juliet


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msg12 dee



you don`t know anything about me so please don`t be so vulgar! for your info i am also from cheshire.....



juliet


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msg 14



most things are



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dee, go boil your head.!!! i am rolling over......so funny,x

















spider



juliet


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small things hey spider.......



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Been there recently, new slabbing to outsde areas , new conference suite, impressive hardly tatty now. Excellent service to.



Cruella


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Hi Pilgrim msg21



I will check it out again when I am next in Cyprus, I do find the Bafra beach ok nice and friendly weekdays.



Cruella



deecyprus4


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Juliet...there are some rough area's in Cheshire ....lol



deecyprus4


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Juliet, you are quite right, I know nothing of you...whew thank heavens for small mercies lol



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We had coffee and cakes at The Artemis a couple of years go - very impressive - large swimming pools etc. I wonder if day passes are avilable??



Yeah - went past that Lion's Place in Magusa - what is it?? A casino??



deecyprus4


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Jakki I think it is a restaurant and nightclub...yuk lol



simbas



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It never looks if anyone uses the place



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It wouldn't look out of place in Las Vegas!!!



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Kaya Artemis built with Turkish money as all the other 9 themed hotels will be. I went there on opening night and have been a few times subsequently. Not tatty at all ??? Of course not to everyones tasted but where is??



(The place with lions etc. on outskirts of Magusa is a discoteque. I think you have to be quite young and up in the early hours of the morning to see it operate )



This area of Bafra has always been intended to be the 'Las Vegas' of the Med. Not everyones taste but then no one forces you to go there. Lot of potential for tourism; which the North so urgently needs. One benefit to the local area has been jobs of course and there is a massive de-salination plant which also put water into the local system.



cypwine


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I popped along to this turkish owned hotel just the other day to enquire about rates, had a good nosy round & was not at all inpressed, tatty, dirty & WAY over the top, who wants to sit on a throne while having a cup of coffee! the pool area also shabby, broken tiles & awful chipped brown paintwork every where, no wonder i only saw 3 guests in the 2 hours i was there & they were not tourists.



on another forum there is a lady who owns some of the land where these ugly places are being built, will be interesting to see where she progresses with her claim to wards the people who have built on her land,



tommy13


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kaya artemis is mainland turkish investors , along that coast there have been 14 apllications on 14 100 donum plots , 9 have been granted and approved , they include , noahs ark hotel , babylon hotel , egyption pyramids hotel etc etc , ive seen most of the architectural drawings ,they will all have some kind of theme , its like a las vegas style or like the hotels on antalya coastline concept, ive personally seen the tourisms depertments plans there , very interesting and grand indeed , thallasa bay development is also along that strip and so far the only development on the beachfront that is selling properties and not just a resort. its turkish title too !



cypwine


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"it`s turkish title too" maybe but only recognised in turkey where as the real land owners are internationally recognised. as i said will be very interesting to see the progress of the real land owners claim.



tommy13


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no cypwine , its ORIGINAL turkish title , i know the israeli who bought it and the guy who he bought it from , and the original owner has had it in his familly from his great grandfathers father who was an ottoman grand mufti in ottoman cyprus , or do u consider 400 odd years of ottoman rule , foreign occupation too , u probably still believe Istanbul ( defunct constantinople) is rightfuly greek too



Sandcastle


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Last summer, this hotel was very busy.



The local beach next to it is lovely and looked after, but if you want boat trips, jet skis etc, the hotel beach has it all for you to use. You dont need to go into the hotel for the beach, just go to the local beach and take 20 steps across the sand to the hotel beach.



I dont like the look of it, but thats my taste.



There is also a huge golf course going on in that area. Plans approved last summer. Again foreign money.



cypwine


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so tommy, your saying a tc sold the land to an israeli, who then went on to sell to a turkish company ???



tommy13


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i was refering to thallasa bay not artemis



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cypwine - I think your message No. 30 is slightly misleading, if the posting on another forum is the same one I think it is. I believe the person said that her father was given some land in the area by his family and that it may or may not be in the area where the Artemis has been built. If I remember correctly, they were going to have a look and see. Of course, other posters on that particular forum were already talking about "another one for the bulldozer" as they are inclined to do.



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Cypwine, get back on your bike and ride south, don,t want to read your biased crxx.



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cypswine your names alice? who the f--k is alice!



tommy13


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yes cypwine , if its constructive or intellectually motivated debate or comments then prob no one minds ur here , but dont come to make just propaganda



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Visited Kaya Artemis a few weeks ago , fantastic pool, beach, had a look around and def would stay there . Fabulous!!!!



tommy13


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arbee , your always tring to pick a fight , what is it your after mate , if you want to talk about something just email me please , im not here to have a public battle , im just simply a businessman who has a couple of projects on the go here in trnc and i just wanted to get some feedback from members here , I did , I was pleased with it , it served my purpose and thats it , really if theres something you want to know just go to the website and send me an email , ill try answer any reasonable questions you have , ok



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Does anyone know if the Hotel does day passes, if so can you remember what is included for the cost ???



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sarahlou.we went to the artemis last week ,were told 200 ytl for family inc lunch for family of four,however the price could vary if you talk to the security guys.v nice beach and pool with slides



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I was there just over a week ago, hoping to show my pal round the place (have been there several times before). They now have the barriers down and charge you 75ytl each to go in - they said all that was included for that was use of the pool.



But to simbas' comment about the place looking as if no one uses it, last year when I visited it was packed out round the pool areas, the beach and along the pier - in contrast to Limassol and surrounding areas at that time of year (early Sep) - they were deserted. Most of the people I saw were obviously Muslim - they were sat on the beach in high temperatures covered from head to foot.



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''Crikey'' Oleander that was a bit steep , did you pay it ? we visited there back in May just paid for lunch , no entrance fee !!!!



Sandcastle


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Friends of ours visited this August, they paid the fee but it did include lunch. Either that or they eat anyway and did not pay ;-)



There was alot of Russians there along with wealthy Turks who as you say were covered from head to foot. Even when they went in the pool.



Local beach has been done up too. Some like it others think its lost its local charm. I will let you know in a few weeks when we get back.



Pipie


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Cheers Sandcastle ,look forward to any feedback as we do tend to vist there each time we are that way .



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We booked the Artemis last year not realising that it was a Bayram and luckily enough we phoned to ask for a room upgrade before travelling there. We were told that there was no reservation in our name. We checked with the agent that we booked through and they said that they had confirmation from the hotel.

They then contacted the Artemis and were told that the hotel was fully booked with Turkish guests (obviously they were going to use the casino) and that they were cancelling all the 'other' overbooked??? reservations.

They didn't think to advise people about this though and we have never gone back.



TinLondon


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Does it really matter who owns it, what it looks like or what land it was built on? It's a themed hotel, it may look Greek, i'm sure the Pyramid they're planning will look Egyptian, just like the Venetian in Las Vegas looks Italian - youdon't hear them complaining!



Why can't we just accept the fact that this is just another hotel someone has built, with someone elses money (yes probably Isreali cash) - on cheap land that no one bothered to build on before? I do however agree with Msg 15 - it does look very tacky, it's nothing more than very cheap immitation of Caesars Palace in Las Vegas! with over-priced room rates. I still can't understand why anyone would want to pay to see a hotel - I thought the staying guests did that, or don't they have any?



I did have a quick walk around of the hotel last year (i didn't pay as I told the guy at the gate was on the phone) and it was just full of gold bling decorated women from Turkey. There are better hotels on the Island!



Sandcastle


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Well said.



You can see the beach front from the public beach next door. Infact only a grain of sand seperates the two. Earlier this year you could just walk along the beach from the public one and see all you need to see for free.



andre 514


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juliet message 6:



if I was you I wouldn't ask people in north cyprus if they really want a mini-turkey:

some of the locals might even answer "yes"



on the other hand if the tc's really trust your lot more than the much-criticized turks

they will be asking them to leave won't they?

...perhaps that's why you claimed it was "75% in the bag" as recently as this spring



oh, many of the expats will be wobbling away merrily looking to see what's best for them

but who cares about a few thousand foreigners?



it is not as if turkey's permanent guarantee was devised for their benefit:

they are just riding along on the crest of a wave, like the boy scouts really,

and er...like most people on this planet



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Just been watching Ada TV and from a phone in from someone in London, it seems like that this hotel has recently had an outbreak of salmonella. Of course the hotel managers have denied these reports and even accused the tourists who paid 4,100 YTL for a weeks stay, that they bought the bacteria in to Cyprus from the UK 4 days ago and the caller in to the show also complained that the hotel did not even call out a doctor... Doesn't sound like a 5 star hotel to me!



So if you do plan to visit this place, beat you eat before you go and wash your hands when you leave.



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