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scotsguy

Joined: 17/09/2008 Posts: 249
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 15:47 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 16 in Discussion |
| It won't cost you a penny, so play today; it could change your life forever. Iraqi terrorists, Afghan dissidents, Albanian gangsters, pro-Pinochet activists, anti-Pinochet activists, Kosovan drug-smugglers, Tamil tigers, bogus Bosnians, Rwandan mass murderers, Somali guerrillas...COME ON DOWN! Get along to the airport, the lorry park or the ferry terminal. Don't stop in Germany or France. Go straight to Britain. You are guaranteed to be one of tens of thousands of lucky winners in the softest game on earth. Everyone's a winner, when they play 'ASYLUM'. |
The-Wicks

Joined: 27/05/2007 Posts: 2279
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 16:03 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 16 in Discussion |
| scotsguy - this would be very funny, if it wasn't, in fact, only too true. J |
Harold2555


 Joined: 19/04/2008 Posts: 1139
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 16:28 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 16 in Discussion |
| A nice rant, unforrtunately not borne out by the truth. Asylum applications are on their way down and are now are at about 30% of their 2002 levels. The real problem in my opinion is the lack of detention facilities to hold seekers until their applications are properly processed. Harold2555 |
No1Doyen

 Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 16:32 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 16 in Discussion |
| Jean. Sadly I agree. |
The-Wicks

Joined: 27/05/2007 Posts: 2279
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 16:34 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 16 in Discussion |
| Harold - or is this just what they're telling us? J |
scotsguy

Joined: 17/09/2008 Posts: 249
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 16:41 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 16 in Discussion |
| Harold, I sure the spin machine of the government would like us to beleive that, however it is a government full of lies and spin doctors, Their totally incapable of telling the truth. I voted with my feet and left over 6 years ago, never to return. The-Wicks comments are correct, I had the same reply from all my UK friends. |
Harold2555


 Joined: 19/04/2008 Posts: 1139
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 16:44 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 16 in Discussion |
| Jean Asylum application is a detailed process and the information provided id largely accepted as accurate. There is a tendancy to confuse Asylum seekers with illegal immigrants. This is an attitude pervaded by tabloid newspapers. We as civilised nations have a duty to recognise the need for asylum but not to accept any illegal immigrants. Harold |
scotsguy

Joined: 17/09/2008 Posts: 249
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 16:53 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 16 in Discussion |
| Funny isn't it everyone wants to come to the UK, even the french help them on their way to the UK, I'm sure they don't want to spend months/years in a french warehouse with the basic services, when the UK gives thems everything. Political correctness as mad and stupid as ever back there. |
dixie normus

Joined: 22/02/2008 Posts: 820
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 19:47 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 16 in Discussion |
| Scotsguy, All the Eu nations help the unwanted to the UK it saves them having the prob on their door step, the Uk has been the dumping ground for the past 10 years helped along by Tony and his cronies beliveing it would help the economy when all it has done has is drive a wedge through communities and cause ruin, that why I shipped out. D.N |
fire starter

Joined: 19/06/2008 Posts: 3401
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 19:57 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 16 in Discussion |
| scotsguy, i don't see why you need to include the tamil tigers? have you ever met anyone who has been in a torture camp run by the sri lankan goverment? i have and you want to here those stories before making judgement on the tamils! they deserve asylum. don't judge them before you fully understand the facts. |
rowlo


Joined: 12/10/2008 Posts: 4796
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 20:15 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 16 in Discussion |
| yep they come rolling in speaking two words of english social security? |
Macha

Joined: 18/01/2009 Posts: 650
Message Posted: 04/02/2009 23:39 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 16 in Discussion |
| I'd rather have a foreign neighbour who arrived as a refugee and was willing to support himself than some half-educated, closet racist, xenophobic imbecile masquerading shamefully as a native Briton. The thing about certain right-wing tabloid readers is that, being ignorant and xenophobic, they are so easy to manipulate. |
The-Wicks

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Message Posted: 04/02/2009 23:51 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 16 in Discussion |
| Message 12 - Macha - and the bleeding heart liberals are not (easy to manipulate, I mean)? I'm sure we'd all rather have a neighbour such as you suggest than the "closet racist, xenophobic imbecile etc. etc. ............" that you talk about. However, we don't always get what we want. J |
scotsguy

Joined: 17/09/2008 Posts: 249
Message Posted: 05/02/2009 10:12 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 16 in Discussion |
| Macha, that’s your choice, by the way I not half educated, I am a professional person. and certainly not a closet racist, ever meet my many friends you will realise that. Having lived and worked in many different countries (and still do), I have to fully abide by their laws and rules. I'm certainly not against anyone emigrating to Britain that go through the proper proceedures and criterial. Otherwise, I would then be a hypocrite, racist, xenophobic imbecile. I was proud of being British, but with this government and their failures, I decided to leave, we spend/waste millions on so called asylum seekers while other citizens of the country are ignored and left in poverty, with poor public services. As message 2 stated 'it would be funny, if it was not so true'. We did at one time however enjoy freedom of liberty and speech. But with the so called Political Correctiveness, dare to speak out against them, then your damned and wrongly accused of being a racist. |
jock1


Joined: 06/01/2008 Posts: 3786
Message Posted: 05/02/2009 13:26 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 16 in Discussion |
| Scotsguy dont take it to heart, But i can agree with you.... |
sassycypgirl

Joined: 26/08/2008 Posts: 99
Message Posted: 05/02/2009 21:04 | | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 16 in Discussion |
| Harold You are correct in the fact that there is a difference between Asylum seekers and illegal immigrants. Sotsquy Some of your message is correct but there is some inaccuracy. Britain is an easy touch. The problem is the illegals that disappear into the underground and can not be found. Government figures IMO grossly under estimated. The human rights of people have to be upheld and proving that a person has no right to asylum is not easy. Once their status is as illegal then they should be returned back to their home land but any country sending people back home have to prove that they come from there in the first place. With no documents and an unwillingness to co-operate governments have a hard job and the country of origin wont accept without proof. Not defending them just stating a fact. A problem that wont go away until the UK government face facts and start doing something about it. Sassy |
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