Back to the UK

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:09

Hypothetically speaking, IF it should all go wrong and you are forced to move out of your properties would you go back to the UK or somewhere else?

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:16

Probably Scotland.........................

lesleyb


Joined: 27/02/2008
Posts: 126

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:20

Would like a little cottage in Cornwall or Devon.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:42

Back to the UK unless another option is given to me

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:48

Forget it Bill!



Going back from an 'Illegal' Country, none of you would now pass the new points system for UK entry!





Rob

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:50

Surely any members of Cyprus44 entering the UK would be entitled to asylum.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:51

My plan 'B' is Turkey. I would never go back to the UK not even in a coffin.

AJ

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:54

AJ

I believe Gary Robb said the same

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:12

batterboy, you are right. If you are a member of cyprus44 you'll get asylum.

viper


Joined: 14/07/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:18

True no1.. a mental asylum...(joke)





viper

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:19

Are you saying we are all mad Viper? Well, I suppose it help's sometimes eh?



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joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:29

Turkey for me too.

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:34

If most of you have to pull out that will leave mainly the legal pre-74 title owners and Cypriots.



That's when the difference in demand and property prices between legal and illegal title deeds will probably become most noticeable.

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:34

The again...



What if 12000+ ex-pats and their families all went down South into the EU and claimed asylum



Regards Joseph

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:36

joseph msg 14,



Nobody would get asylum as they have never left or entered a country - they would still be in Cyprus.

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:39

Machamsg 15



Try telling that to all those displaced in 74 ... isn't this how/where it all started?



Regards Joseph

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:42

Macha...



Just to clarify... are you telling me NCyprus is in the EU... and regarded by the powers that be ... on all sides... as being such?



Regards Joseph

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:58

joseph,



The north of Cyprus is as much in the EU as the south, west and east of the country.



The island of Cyprus - all of it - is only ONE country and it's known as the Republic of Cyprus.



That's why you can't flee from Kyrenia and pitch up in Paphos claiming asylum - you've never left the country in the first place.

wattys


Joined: 07/10/2008
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:01

There was a thread a few days asking if any one knew where to get a JCB if we were ever to be kicked out i would be the first in line for it i would certainly flatten my place, not leave it if for some one else. Am i selfish yes

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:03

msg 19: "Am i selfish yes"



Arguably so is anyone who knowingly took over someone else's property.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:04

for me turkey or italy but we are all hanging on to see the outcome

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:05

Lilli, Don't worry, It was only a hypothetical question - it's not really going to happen.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:06

Oh forgot to say Lilli, Italy for me too.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:07

I think a cement mixer would be better. Leave it as a large lump of concrete.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:53

never to old to backpack.and thats a must before im dead,didnt bring much with me.its you that makes a home i was told once,and can make another.

must haves

why bother you know.

water.











spider

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:08

So Macha please reveal when exactlymall the people of the island of Cyprus voted to join the EU...



Regards Joseph

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:28

Sorry, typo, should have read...



So Macha please reveal when exactly all the people of the island of Cyprus voted to join the EU...



Regards Joseph

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:58

back to sunny scotland for me , still got my castle their

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 20:15

rowlo: "...still got my castle their..."



Your castle, their what? Their castle too?

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 20:24

Macha msg20



"Arguably so is anyone who knowingly took over someone else's property."



So do you consider anyone who unknowingly bought property subject to contentious title could have a basis for continuous enjoyment of such title as approved by the relevant authorities at the time of such purchase, if those such authorities were considered to be part of the EU at the time of purchase?



Rob

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 20:33

If this is EU why aren't we spending euros ????

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 20:37

Oh no not yet mindy please price rises here are bad enough but with the euro the will double overnight. Except of course property prices.

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 20:37

And ... Macha... still waiting for an answer to msg 27



Regards Joseph

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 20:55

macha msg 29 no its mine and only mine ????

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 20:58

joseph



Macha would tell you Cyprus (all of) joined on 1st May 1984.



Unfortunately the 37%? in the North were not allowed to vote for such inclusion and therefore did not accept EU membership as such.



Macha is a fence sitter as he feels secure in his pre 1974 title property.



He thinks he is living in the EU, he thinks the other 20,000+? of us in the North do not have the same EU rights as he thinks he has himself, even though he claims we are all similarly living in the EU.



He often confuses himself and, like Doctor Who, has to regenerate into a new persona.



Something I find a bit odd.



Rob

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 21:21

Thanks RobnJo... I wondered why the question was left un-answered...



To be fair I'm not trying to put anyone into a hole and asking them to dig themselves out, I am trying to make the point of how difficult these questions/answers are and showing if we cannot get anywhere near a consensus on this forum what chance the politicians with Heaven knows how many lobbyist groups in their ears. Seems to me they have to start with the status quo and work from there. I say this because I cannot think of a single instance where a displacement of people( whoever is to blame) has found an answer by turning the clock back especially after so long.



Someone made the point on another thread that many Turkish born nationals who previously settled in TRNC have now become second and even third generation of people living here on formerly GC property. If they were to be turfed off would that not in itself be a form of displacement...



Hence my point re status quo... where will it end ?



Joseph

Oilman


Joined: 19/09/2008
Posts: 225

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 22:19

Anywhere but the UK!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 22:24

joseph

'If they were to be turfed off would that not in itself be a form of displacement...'



Ethnic cleansing comes to mind.

Hope you are well and that things are still going in the right direction re your property.

AJ

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 00:58

joseph,no one can turn the clock back as we well know,if noe one even interested in going to No.10,hooooooooooooods of you all and you have loads loging here each day,and make the Point outside...would make sence to me....

how about if thr BRS.make a pilgimage how many would go or continue doing as they do today,yesterday,and the next,on here, can.you just not give them this forum,

what would they say,laugh and leave you all to it,has keep you all going..

its needs Action man...

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 01:14

re: msg 15



as macha well knows,



the north is technically part of the eu but not included in the acquis



the south legally represents the whole island

but is currently negociating with an unrecognised trnc to re-unify the island

why try to re-unify what is already one place?



another important point is that according to curved space theory

you can travel on an and on but gradually you will bend round

and eventually disappear up the place you stated from:



a region with a "very close affinity" to the place that our macha

appears to be speaking from



andre

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 01:18

Hi AJ...



Seems to be on the move AJ but weather is holding things up; actually only slightly because all real movement now depends on Transformer/Substation

which we are told has been ordered. Sandie,Chris and I keep in regular contact with each other to update "neighbours" etc.



AJ I think am I right in saying you ,like Macha have lived in TRNC a while, but somehow, if you read the whole thread, I have a feeling your thoughts on this might just be rather a little different from his?



Spider, no disrespect, but I did not quite get your meaning re msg 39...?



Regards Joseph

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 01:28

To be honest Oilman...re msg37... you might be closer than you realise...



I actually think that the key to this whole mess could actually be the U.K. diplomatically ofcourse, our government could do an awful lot more to help solve the current problems.



We are no longer a superpower in the world but I do think our opinions and diplomacy carry weight. A CT businessman told me last year when there was all this talk about piping water from Turkey to Cyprus that if the UK government gave the nod it would become a reality and not a pipe dream (forgive the pun)

So obviously there are those out there that believe what Oilman inadvertently referred to ie... The UK



Regards Joseph

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 08:26

we won't need to go anywhere.

we will be leaving when we are good and ready!