Caesar Resort Air Conditioning

Mike78


Joined: 07/04/2009
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:10

Hi Everyone



I am new to this forum. My family have bought an apartment in the caesar resort. The builder wants to know if we want air con. We know that cyprus is must warmer than the likes of spain. So we were thinking of just putting air con in the bedrooms (2 off). AS air con is very expensive to run. We plan to rent our apartment out eventually for holiday lettings. Put the question is would you make or loss money from the rental due to the air-con, from people leaving it on all the time?

Just trying to get other thoughts from other people.



Thanks Mike

guinness


Joined: 10/03/2008
Posts: 224

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:30

Aircon essential in the high summer - the lounge too. Don't forget it is also a heat pump and effective heater for winter. If use is extensive then an evaporator using inverter technology will use less juice. The economics of paying the higher cost for installation - they say - is about 6 months use p.a.



Yes it can be a problem with tenants running it 24/7 but there are means to control it. Either by a card meter that you can have installed, and then sell the cards to tenants or limiting the time it is on.



See other threads about aircon limiters/timers etc. There are 2 very recent threads on the topic. You are thinking on the right lines ! HTH



Guin

Mike78


Joined: 07/04/2009
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 21:10

Sorry Guin



Was the two threads on the caesar Resort forum?



Mike

Mike78


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 21:10

Thanks Guin.



Good nickname.



The builder told us that they did not know of any card readers. i have heard that the timers on the air con is easy to over-ride. I will try and find the other two threads.



Mike

guinness


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Posts: 224

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 21:57

Yes we tend to refer to a thread as being on the same forum. So go to the general forum and in-between all the political claptrap you will find some good stuff ;o)



The threads are a hot topic at present if you pardon the pun. And there is far more there than the builder would even know about. But to be fair, a builder of a large development is not so much concerned with the minutae of owning the properties he builds, and its the owners who are ! In fact I have one of those card readers mentioned on the jetty at the marina where I keep my boat. It works well except when power consumption is low - and it does not clock the power used ! But an aircon will surely be well metered with the amount of power they use.



You will find it all easily enough. Otherwise get back to me here.



Guin

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 09:40

Mike78,



Get a couple of quotes for your a/c. The builder will sub the work out to the cheapest supplier and you may get kit which is very expensive to run. In any case you would be wise to fit a card meter to your a/c supplies if you intend renting out. We can supply and instal both energy efficient a/c and card meters.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 15:53

Hi Trnc vaughan

Have villa local to ceasar resort would be interested in quote for card meter

please email me.

horse


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 15:50

What sort of money are you talking for units installed in 2 bedrooms and sitting room,caesar resort .

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 16:26

Hi Pilgrim,



Card meter supplied and fitted to a/c spurs 300 pounds subject to survey. Cards are extra but only about 30 pounds per thousand cards with 10 pound face value.



Hi horse,



I'd need to know how big the rooms were and a bit of other info, like is property an appt on the ground/top floor etc.?

nirishlass


Joined: 08/04/2009
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 17:04

If you are renting why do you not put in fans or have free standing a/c units which you can use for yourself when you are over. Your management company can also charge people for a/c and issue the remotes when they arrive or charge as per the meter?

Mike78


Joined: 07/04/2009
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 17:16

Thanks for the help. i think we will hold off on the aircon at the moment until we go out in a few weeks time.

Rogerdodger


Joined: 24/04/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 17:49

We stayed in a villa, with only air cons in the bedrooms nothing in the living area, very humid and uncomftable, would never stay in a villa like that again.

RD

Mike78


Joined: 07/04/2009
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 19:34

TRNCVanghan



Please could you email your contact details, so that i can contact you in cyprus. I will be out at the resort at the end of april. Would like a quota for 3 units with card meter. It is a 2 bedroom apartment.



Thanks MIke

michaelbryce05@hotmail.co.uk

Villain


Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 15

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 20:00

TRNC Vauhan



Could you please also mail with with a quote both with and without cards.



2 bed apt bedrooms approx 10 m2



living room 20m2 first floor



Also if you don't mind what are you thoughts on Nirishlass' post Message 13.



Thanks



kevincook@talktalk.net

Linus


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 20:32

Vaughn



We spoke many months ago about this and I am still waiting for my apt to be completed but you mentioned coin operated metres. \How does the card system work



Regards



Linus

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
09/04/2009 14:07

Linus,



Instead of coins which fill up the meter and need to be emptied, card meters use magnetic strip cards which are pre-charged with units and are sold at various face values, although they only cost pennies and worth nothing to anyone else.

You buy a card, say 10 pounds value, and hand over ten pounds. When you insert the card it transfers the equivalent of ten pounds worth of credit into the meter. The meter warns you before it runs out and if you have no new cards to hand you can press an emergencty overide button which will give you some extra credit. This will be deducted from the next card you put in the meter. The person who sells the cards gets the money from the guests and uses this money to pay the electricity bill. Card meters are probably more convenient than coin meters (they never need emptying) and there is no security issue with them.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
09/04/2009 14:09

Mike78 and villain,



My e-mail address is on my profile, but it is vaughan@sunnycyprus.net

Please e-mail me there and I will reply with quotes, etc.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
09/04/2009 14:17

Villain,



Not sure which part of nirishlass' post you want me to comment on.

Generally free standing a/c units are a waste of time. They are cumbersome, and require access to the outside via a tumble-dryer type flexible hose which you hang out of a window. It rather defeats the object of a/c to have a window open....

What would your management company guess would be the usage of the a/c to charge extra for it? If it was me and I was charged extra for a/c I might be inclined to turn it on and leave it on....

Linus


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
09/04/2009 19:47

Vaughn



They sound much better than coin operated. So would I buy these cards from the electricty company and presumably if I was using my own apt I would use cards or can I override it.How much would the cost be. I have a 2 bed apt with 3 air con units. Is it jus one metre that would need to be fitted



Regards



Linus

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
09/04/2009 19:56

You buy the cards from the firm that makes the meter or the importer (me). When you are in residence you can overide the meter as the owner or just put cards in which cost you pennies.

Usually 1 meter will do and the cost is £300 supplied and fitted.

Linus


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
09/04/2009 20:00

Thanks Vaughn



When the site is eventuall finished I will be in touch.



Linus

sarah41


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 7

Message Posted:
19/04/2009 11:18

hi has anyone had a quote for air con yet .We would like it fitted to our 1 bed appt.I have emailed the site for a quote but havent recieved a reply yet.Also the price for white goods and furniture package.We have recieved a white goods and air con quote from franks kitchen equipment north cyprus but would like to compare it with developer price.White good with franks approx£1200.We are visiting on may 10th to collect our keys,but staying in the south as we had a good package deal, any car hire suggestions will be appreciated .Speak soon Sarah/Keith Johns

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
19/04/2009 11:54

Hi Sarah/Keith,



Please e-mail me on vaughan@sunnycyprus.net for an a/c quote.

jamie63


Joined: 24/03/2008
Posts: 38

Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:08

Hi TRNCVaughan

could you please send me prices of air con fitted suitable for 10ft x 10ft room need 2 on caesar resort my email Lisa.venton@ntlworld.com

thanks Jamie

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
23/04/2009 14:34

Hi Jamie,



10'x10' room works out at about 5500Btu. As 9000Btu is the smallest available in TRNC, that's what you'll need.

They are 350 Euros each, supplied and fitted.

horse


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
23/04/2009 16:20

Just wondering is it not possible in cyprus to have a card meter fitted to your electricity supply as in uk so that all your electric has to be payed by card would make everything much easier for rentals and no electricity bills.

guinness


Joined: 10/03/2008
Posts: 224

Message Posted:
29/04/2009 10:07

Horse, read the thread in full and then enter 'card meter' into the search panel - plenty there !

Guin

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
02/05/2009 18:02

We could wire all your electrical consumption through a card meter but the big users are the a/c and the immersion water heater. It would be a bit drastic to lose the lights and the fridge, etc, when the credit ran out, but you are the customer and we will wire the meter any way you want..

horse


Joined: 25/03/2009
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 20:28

have just been over to caesar they have told me i need 2 900s and one 1200 apartment on ground floor

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 09:37

2 x 9000Btu units at 350Euros each

1 x 12000Btu unit at 420Euros

Card meter see message 9 and others.

In order to supply and fit a/c at these prices I would need a couple of orders from folks to make the trek from Kyrenia worthwhile.

Poppy81


Joined: 20/06/2009
Posts: 9

Message Posted:
20/06/2009 21:33

Thought this might be useful I've had it installed in 3 of my apartments and it's fab!! Comparing electricity bills from before and after is amazing! They are really good and ever so helpful, have a look!

http://www.air-con-omy.com

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
21/06/2009 12:15

See msg 28. Far better idea.

semaj0


Joined: 16/02/2009
Posts: 9

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 00:28

to whom it may concern,



so if i understood , do you still need to pay for the electrical meter 1000 stg and later install the card meter

or ignore the 1000 stg and just pay for the card meter?

does any one knows what is the rent for the permanent meter is per month the one that ceasar will install?

is it a must to pay 1000stg ,or you cam apply for a card meter instead ?

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
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Message Posted:
02/07/2009 09:16

The card meters are completely at your discretion but I suspect you must buy the official meter whatever you do.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
10/11/2009 15:25

This thread now seems to have become relevant again.

Bttt.