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scotsguy


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Popped in their saturday night, 2 Vokda's 1 Whisky, with sprite in each (have to admit they were imported spirits) Barmaid then requested 60 lira, on asking her to check the prices she came back and said sorry should have been 45 lira, needless to say paid up and left. cannot beleive the rip off prices. So beware if going there for a couple drinks. We certainly won't be back.



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scotsguy

You need to get to know the staff to get the real prices.

Are you living here or just visiting?

AJ



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its a shame this happens as if they kept drinks resonable we all would go bacak and it would also encourage torists to go there, why dont they realise this and keep prices affordable



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what planet they on ?



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Hi Scots im so sorry this should just not happen. Did they have a price list. Every Saturday they are full of young turkish cyps . So I guess they make enough that night to last the week. No excuse though come to me. you know how i look after you xxx



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AJ wrote: "You need to get to know the staff to get the real prices."

So that makes it OK to rip people off, does it? Can we count on you to go in and have strong words with the management?



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bars should put price lists up and/or treat people equal? god what is the difference between us...... hold on we will pay those prices!



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We went there once and ordered a round of drinks which consited of 4 bottles of Efes. When the woman gave me the price of 55YTL I told her to keep them and we all walked out without paying.



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I guess what i am trying to say is that it is a locals bar and I know that does not make it right to charge extra for non locals but I am trying to make it easier for you. Go with a TC or get to know the owner and staff. It really is a great place especially when there is live music.

AJ



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AJ I agree but how can they charge prices like this. We would be laughed off the island if we did. I know you have a great relationship in your local bars and thats great at least you have intergrated but tourists will write this up on trip advisor, lonely planet etc. It could put them off. When will they learn it gives us all a bad name xx



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AJ....you are really struggling here to justify their actions.

It stinks...and they deserve all the custom they don't get as a result of the publicity on here.

Why are they so short-sighted?

Why do they think it's OK to rip off "non-locals" as you put it?



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Maybe I am a bit of a mug but I kind of expect to get ripped off if I am a tourist, I would say however that I did learn the hard way that if the prices aren't published you should just walk away. I bought a couple of kebebs in Girne on my first trip and never thought about it until I got the price, severe rip off but as I payed the bill without complaining because i couldn't really I realised that I chose the place for the amount of locals that were eating there. It was good food but I won't go back purely because I was ripped off way more than I expected to be.



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Lilli

I know and I understand but what I will say is that Ibos is not interested in expat customers, they regard them as 'problem makers' and as such try to price them out. I have been to a few bars around Alsancak/Lapta and it it is the same old story, the TC's behave themselves but expats go over the top.

AJ



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AJ.....then why not put up a sign "Locals Only" or even "TC's Only" so that we could at least be insulted without also being ripped off ?



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AJ, is that expats or tourists. In most of the countries I have lived there is a difference between the way they act !!



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c(h)ronos

You missed my point, you can avoid being ripped off or are you one that does not like to integrate with the local community?



cronos


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I love to integrate with the local community.



But why would I want to integrate with people who discriminate against me and rip me off ?



You cannot justify this behaviour AJ.



Lilli



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AJ I totally understand only last night 4 guys got ot of thier rental car (dead give away) Totally topless. many tatoes if thats how you spell it. In to Pizzaking they went. Rudi was in residence and promptly sent they back to get dressed. How can these people think everyone wants to see naked men like this. Its awful even if they have a 6 and a half pack. I know if Jordan and the like came along it would be diferent. Just want to point out its not really acceptable anywhere to do this. God I gone about it all the wrong way been to Charcos tonight lovely. so the wine has got to me sorrry xxxxxx



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aj



how would you like this kind of treatment if you visited england in every shop , bar reaturant , club etc , etc it is disgracefull behaviour.



everyone should be charged the same whether you are a visitor or a local no matter what you say it cannot be justified to rip folks off we maybe tourists but sure not made of money.



there is a small bar in tatlisu and they tried to charge my parents 6.50 ytl for a glass of orange , i mean were the hell do they think they are monaco or the french alps!!!!!



sorry to put it like this aj but i fell very strongly about people taking advantage of peoples good nature and there policy not to complain when the bill comes dont worry we will soon all be wise to these rip of merchants



it will be them that pays in the end when people dont return to spend any more dosh.



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AJ



Sorry this is called discrimination



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Every one should be charged the same, whether tourist, ex pat or cyps.....



i remember a few years ago, i sent my then husband into a shop to ask the price of something....(only spoke english)...he came out with a price...2 minutes later i went in and asked the price of the same thing in turkish...totally different prices.....asked the women why and when she relaised she offered me as she called it local price.....needless to say, we didnt buy and did not ever go back there....



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Obviously a raw nerve has been touched. We are guest's in this country so you should try to understand the way TC's look at us and the way they expect us to live our life in the TRNC. If you can't adapt and adopt the TC way of life then you should not be here.

AJ



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AJ...you simply aren't getting this.



This isn't about integration...it's about discrimination.



Every bar has the right to refuse entry to anyone they consider undesireable....no problem with that.



But the people they DO let in should all enjoy the same prices.



sweep


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10/06/2009 00:51

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aj

to rite it has !!



so aj how do they look at us please explain just curious as to what your next load of codswallop will be.



please put the spade away the hole is way to deep as it is, hope it doesnt rain and you drown down there.



AlsancakJack



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c(h)ronos

I am getting it but unfortunately my TC friends are not.

You are arguing with the wrong person, maybe I will introduce to my mate Mhemet. He will give you a better idea of what it is all about.

AJ



cronos


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Will I have to pay for the introduction ?



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sweep

You make your own mind up about life in the TRNC, I can only give people guidance and if they accept then I feel happy if not then it is their problem. Simple.



sweep


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oh right so we all need to make friends with everone and that way we dont get riped off



sorry you are still on a losing streek give it up!!



only kiddin fully understand you points even if i dont agree.



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c(h)ronos

No totally free but don't tell anyone else.



Stubs


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It is quite funny I tried to explain this to my London TC mate who could not see what I was meaning when I was talking about the discrimination.



Imagine you wanted to buy a new tv in the TRNC. You of course go around various shops including Tektan, Arcelik etc. You ask how much it is and the person in the shop looks at you and says $1000. You tell him its too expensive and you go home and speak to your TC neighbour who tells you they guy in the shop is extractin the urine and goes down with you. The guy in the shop tells your TC neighbour its $800 but your TC neighbour then phones his cousin who knows someone who knows someone and now the tv is $600.



So i explained to my TC mate, who has stayed in London for several years, that he went to Dixons in any UK high street and asked how much a particular tv was. The Dixons salesman looked him up and down and told him 1000. But your English neighbour bought it the day before for 600 out of the same shop how would you feel?



Shocked



AlsancakJack



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sweep

Unfortunately for most Brit expats they could make their lives a lot simpler.

Hey Ho

AJ



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Whichever way you dress this up, it is blatent discrimination.

No wonder there is little tourism.

They will price themselves out of the market soon.

Too expensive to live, too expensive to holiday.

Is there a hidden agenda?



The TRNC (unlike Turkey) have failed to recognise the potential of a thriving tourism market in today's economic climate, where holidaymakers are avoiding EU destinations like the plague. Shortsighted or what!



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taraspring

Ibos are not bothered about tourists, as I explained in an earlier post they cater for TC's.

AJ



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"Ibos are not bothered about tourists, as I explained in an earlier post they cater for TC's."

AJ

Or ex-pats, it would appear.....

precisely my point.



Now if I opened a bar in the UK which discouraged any other nationalities apart from the indigenous population, I think it would be very quickly closed down. Hmmmm, which reminds me, two MP's have just been "elected" with a similar racist ethos.



No-one should be allowed to discriminate IMO, whoever they are, whether they are running an establishment offering a service, selling goods, or listening to the concerns of the whole of their constituency.

It is plainly wrong!



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Furthermore, an earlier comment of yours......

....." We are guest's in this country so you should try to understand the way TC's look at us and the way they expect us to live our life in the TRNC. If you can't adapt and adopt the TC way of life then you should not be here."



Is a complete contradiction to the last.......

"Ibos are not bothered about tourists, as I explained in an earlier post they cater for TC's."



How can you expect people to integrate, adapt and adopt the TC way of life when by your own admission "they cater for TC's" and as such, they are clearly not welcomed at this particular bar?



I am sorry but you are digging a huge hole here.



AJ



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taraspring

Why am I 'digging a huge hole here'

First of all my guess is you do not live out here, if you do then I apologise but this island (TRNC) is my home and has been for the last 5 years. The Turkish Cypriots have been good to me and my wife and I will defend them until the last. There is no reason why anyone else cannot build a relationship with Turkish Cypriots if they want to. But there are those that can not be bothered and want to live the 'Little Britain' way of life.

Integration really is easy and it opens up so many doors. But if you do not want to do it then it is your problem.



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Stubs

Message 30:

'Shocked' Don't believe it, your a man of the world.



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AlsancakJack!!!!! you should change your name to Im Allright Jack !!!!!!!



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AJ



Your right, you can integrate with TC's as long as you dont go to the bar as it will cost you more than it will your TC friends.



Makes a lot of sense well done



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I can see exactly what AJ is saying and it is a problem not restricted to TRNC - go anywhere in Asia, Africa and even other parts of Europe and you will find dual level pricing - a local price and a tourist price. Normally this is an attempt to extract as much money from "rich" tourists as possible, but here is clearly being used to "filter" out undesirable customers. If some ex-pats can, however it is achieved, integrate to the degree that they are "accepted" as a local and charged the same, then good on them. If other ex-pats/visitors aren't accepted/accepting and vote with their feet, then the real losers are the bar owners that operate such a policy as there are plenty of other bars that will not over-charge.



As I am "only" a tourist - coming out on Saturday for two weeks - I am happy to learn of such practices and the names of the establishments operating them and avoid, an advantage of researching before travelling. Others will be caught out and complain...... tbc



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...cont'd.



One related question I have seen asked before but not seen properly answered - if Ibo's charge 55TL for 4 beers, what should I be paying in an "average" bar for a draught "pint" or 50cl bottle of Efes? likewise, how much should a diet coke be? I will then be able to make my own judgement about being ripped off or not and likewise vote with my feet or visit again. In the UK I can go to a Weatherspoons and pay 1.50 or 1.75 for a pint of ale or go to my local for better banter/atmosphere and pay 2.90 for the same - my money and my choice. It just happens that Johnny Foreigner will be charged the same as me in my local - but not by the hot-dog/Coca Cola stall vendor in Trafalgar Square!



Cheers,

Ralph



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in defence of AJ ,i know exactly where he his coming from .



i myself have walked past many time the coffee shops in alsancak whilst on holiday .



my neighbour tc allways stops to chat to me whilst we are on the road ,and he allways says come have a coffee with me ....im allways to busy ......so last year i stopped ,we had a coffee and water and sat and chatted for 1 hr ....next day i had other people asking me to stop "my friend " and have coffee.....i cleared my loft at home of old dolls from when my daughter was young ,last time i was out i gave my neighbours granddaughter these rather than throw out ......now i have more people offering me coffee than i could drink .



not about dolls ,more about me not stopping and walking by ,now wanting to stop and be part of where we live .



i only now shop in a very small area ,drink in a small area ,and eat in a small area



kav



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scotsguy



You need to get to know the staff to get the real prices.



Are you living here or just visiting?



What a rip off it shoild not matter imagine a bar in uk asking for more because you were a tourist !!



Blatant Racism & profiteering.



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ah well, market day today ! the biggest rip off of the week ! if you are an ex pat of course !



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They may not be interested in the expats or tourists but hold a sunday market just for that sector. double standards.



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aj i have always said we should intergrate but how can you intergrate with ibos if they dont want to. without our money the tc would be bankrupt. in the winter these bars restaurants and shops are happy to have us here. in the next few weeks all the bars will be getting there tourist price lists ready for the influx of uk people coming here for holiday. with the euro the way it is this would be a great opportunity for them to show people what a lovely and reasonable place to holiday. i also think charging people for going on the beach is criminal. i wont buy anything until i see a price list and if too expensive let my feet do the talking and walking out. i am getting a list of good bars and restaurants together and will be using the ones who dont rip me off. effes is between 3 and 4 lira no more.



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boycott the sunday market do not use it they will sooon get the message.



After all they are only jumping on the back of people that have donne the hard work lambousa pegasus carpenters.



Vote for discrimination with your feet DO NOT GO TO IBBOS



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that goes for everywhere nige if they rip us off or bad service walk away and boycott



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That is a little harsh Nigel,



It is only on a Saturday night that they have to charge more for drinks, as the band have him over a barrell. We went on Saturday and had one miller, one wine and soda and one Vodka and Coke and it came to 30TL. Yes it is expensive but no more than town on a Saturday.



When we went in on a Sunday, Miller went back to 4tl.



Alsancak Jack, you do make me laugh! The locals dont fight! Seriously are we talking about the same place?!



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kitty kat jac if he has got live music and that is why the place is packed there is no need to rip people off the extra revenue will pay the band. as for going back the next day and seeing you have been ripped off what comes to mind is get your head examined. i am sure if people go to watch the bands they would pay a small entrance fee. i say botcott



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kitty kat jac the same round in most places i have been would have been 18 lira and that includes saturday and entertainment



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Botcott?? New one on me!



Is it not catch 22 tho, he has to pay over 1000 for the band, but if he didnt have the band nobody would go. It is mainly locals that go as and they are not exactly well none to be big drinkers, yes he could charge an admission but then you get the debate as to why you should pay for entertainment?



Its your choice if you decide to go or not, doesnt make much difference, sit in a bar on your own and pay 3tl for a beer. I was just trying to help you understand the reasons for the pricing.



KKJ



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The moral to all this is, let your TC friends buy the drinks.

Sounds a good idea to me, what do you think Muhiddin?



Troodo.



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or sit across the road in a cheaper bar and listen for free,lol



kav



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We went in to "Iskele" daily on our recent trip to TRNC and we ate at all the local venues and shopped local. by the end of three weeks we were waved at by all the locals and conversed the best way we could with them. We were accepted, I am well street wise with pricing and the way things work. Lovely people and so friendly.



Dual pricing is not nice and we had the same in Lanzarote. If no prices are shown then ask....If you feel the pi@@ is being taken then turn around and go somewhere else.



Forum members that let others know about rip off bars etc are doing the users here a big favour, the bars may or may not learn a lesson.



Cheers.



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1000.....who are the band..."Take That"



1000tyl more like



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sempati had a live band on saturday night no extra for the drinks they had about 100 people in they would not have otherwise had so they madea good profit, people saw what the place had to offer and may goo back on a non music night.



Any place that charges non visitors to this island more than residents should be closed for racism and damaging the frail tourist industry .



bogeyman message 48 i agree I was in a butchers yesterday and he was unhappy abouyt cutting 2 lamb steaks off a leg he cut one off about 1.5 cm thick showed me I gave him the thubs up guzel what did he do cut the next one 3 inches thick !!!



told him in no uncertain terms he was taking the psis and walked out, never will I go in again.



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Ha yes i would say after thinking about it, it is likely to be TL.



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Hello,



Just read your posts as regards Ibo's Inn and agree, of course there should be one set price for drinks whether you are a local or not! I organise the market on Sunday independently of Ibo, he assured me that for that day they would have discounted prices on the bar! I noticed one post saying that the price of Miller did indeed go down on Sunday. The drinks on Sunday should be discounted ..



Hope to see you on Sunday, the market is still very new but getting busier every week



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Nice one KKJ.



Nige....maybe by putting your thumb up he thought that was the thickness of the next chop you wanted.



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There is a world of difference between integration and indoctrination AJ.



You may have wholeheartedly embraced your new homeland, but along the way appear to have lost the ability to distinguish right from wrong IMO.



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We have been going to NC for over 20years and have always known there was a two tier system. Surely these bars and shops should realise that by over charging they will not get repeat business. Tourists and locals alike will support the traders that do right by them, a quick hit for a few months does not pay in the long term. As was said earlier, we should look at the price list first. After many years you do know where to go and we cant wait for August.



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10/06/2009 14:27

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That's cheap, we have a place in England where the local wine bar charges 13.75p for a large wine and a pint of Lager , and more to the point people pay it !!!!!!!!!!!



bogeyman


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10/06/2009 15:39

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tho new one on me



icona


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We went to Ibo's had one round of drinks (3 shorts and a soda water 50 ytl) a cyp friend got the drinks. boss was there when told it was too much he just shrugged his shoulders but thats ok its clear he doesn't need the brits he is packed out with hundreds of locals we took the hint and went to Colony same round 34 ytl this was 3 years ago go where you accepted.



chick


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10/06/2009 16:22

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I have been going to N/C for over 20yrs and yes I accept a 2 tier system exists the cypriot wage is very low.

but daylight robbery is not acceptable, we wanted a battery for a watch went to the little shop in the back street and I asked how much 10tl,went to the big gold shop 5Tl.

Was over in NC 2 weeks ago met 4 different couples their first time in NC and said they would not go back again,firstly being ripped off and secondly the rubbish and general state of the Island.They thought we were mad, Maybe!!!!!!!



tonyhickey



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Remember one simple rule, no price list no bum on the seat



ilovekibris


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10/06/2009 16:26

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Guess you won't be going in there and standing up for justice and fair play then, AJ. Do you get your drinks cheaper for defending them against your ripped off countrymen?



scotsguy


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10/06/2009 21:46

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I do live here, but cannot see what difference that makes, shall I visit every bar and make friends first with the owners and tell them I stay here so I expect cheaper drinks, I don't think so, I just will not go back and same with any other bar that does likewise.



Theres plenty others that don't rip you off.



mia100max


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11/06/2009 00:05

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Miss ruby, you are saying that the prices will be discounted for the Sunday market, but that is not the point... until they realise that they cannot have a seperate price list for locals and ex pats, the place should be boycotted. As mentioned earlier... no price list.. no business. this is my motto now.



littlejohn


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11/06/2009 00:22

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tonyhickey - got it in one!!!

Been going to TRNC for years with only one problem and that was the upstairs bar near the castle in Kyrenia. Otherwise absolutely no problems. The locals and the mainland Turkish would rather give to you than take from you!!Have to say , some of the contributors to this forum would put anybody off the place but they do that even to their own country!!



Lilli



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hi littlejohn you are so right but i still think they should have charged an entrance fee. They could even make it redeemable against the drinks. The locals may only drink soft drinks whilst the drinkers are penalised. They do give but not in business. Its n old addage but here if its not working put the price up now. They do themselves no favours



MsGarnet


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11/06/2009 01:53

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mia100max - To be fair to Ms Ruby - she cannot change the mindset of some of TRNC's indigenous folk having two price levels - for whatever reason they exist (it has been said on this board, oftentimes to price out those few ex-pats that cause trouble and give a bad name to the overwhelming majority of courteous law abiding folk; but how can he or other Turkish cypriots tell one from the other, until the damage is done)?



She has gone out of her way to get Ibo to promise he will treat her Sunday market customers equally to everyone else who patronises his place - no doubt reminding him they have proved to be amongst the nicest, decent folk on the Island. So, I would think it is up to everyone who visits the market to continue to be as they have been every week since it started - that is, decent people who anyone would wish to welcome. It's a start, and hopefully other Turkish Cypriot businesses will see the light and realise it is individuals not nationalities that cause trouble.



decanddyl


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Surely this system of pricing is world wide, going back to 1975 when I served in Malta there was a three tier price system in operation then, locals, ex pats and tourist, this was mainly in the grocery shops where only locals could get certain items. The bars charged roughly the same but who knew after a couple of hours anyway.



Hector


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That was in 1975, the world has moved on. How about bars charging more to females? Would that be ok? Or higher for disabled?



AlsancakJack



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MsGarnet

Ref message 73:

The voice of reason

AJ



proger1



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World wide it certainly is decanddyl, try going into a souq in the middle east and admitting you are a tourist. The price might sound cheap but if you live there you can barter and reduce the price even more and if you bring a local with you who speaks the language it gets even cheaper. The best thing to do is then take that price to the store 3 down the street and tell them the best price you got and they will probably reduce it more.



As brits we are so used to standardised pricing we have forgotten about the sellers right to charge whatever they want, we have the right to agree or disagree. It has been proven several times that the british very rarely choose to argue about pricing and quality, we don't like to cause an uproar in a restaurant for example.

The rest of the world knows this and uses it as a business technique.



I don't like the idea of not seeing prices before hand but I have made that mistake before, its called life



stellasstar1



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Ms Ruby has left the Island, so the Sunday market will be closed for the next 3 weekends, until she gets back.. Nothing to do with the price of drinks.



decanddyl


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Hector, the world has moved on since 1975 but the practice of having different prices for people does not seem to have been eradicated. As proger says we Brits do not have the stomach for a good barter and accept the price quoted on many occasions. I even tried bartering in the Uk and my wife urged me not to.



nurseawful



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In defence of Ibo when we moved here in 2004 our builder tried to get us to pay for all the water connections on site I can't remember the exact figure, but Ibo intervened and went to see mr Namsoy and nearly lost his job defending us at that time. Long and short of it we ended up payin 503 for a water meter but without Ibo it would have been double.

And furthermore we were at the opening night of Ibo's and I must admit have not been there more than once a year since (only because they are all toooooo young for us) but have NEVER paid over the odds for a drink.

If you have a problem with Ibo I am sure he would rather you took it up with him I have his phone number but won't post it here without his permission, so if you want it e-mail me and I will get in touch with Ibo.

Chris



kavenkoy


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quite right message 80 .



best of chatting to IBO ,hes a very reliable chap and local businessman in other areas .



kav



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I will be giving Ibos bar a miss..... Plenty of other places to choose from in the area.



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