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lisa201168



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Hi to all in NC. Back here in UK after a drive to NC in 3 days and 2.5 weeks hols at the villa! I did the map reading and Lee did the driving - of course it went well..An amazing journey. And the whole time was FAB.

What I wanted to share with you was this week I went to a private health clinic (nothing wrong - my doing!!)and the lady who met me asked about my tan, I said had been to Cyprus, she said where, I proudly said NC. She said where, I said NC, outside Kyrenia, she said, yes a lovely place, my parents were thrown out of there. So I was taken back for a short time. I said, I have a villa there. She said you want to be careful there are more than 80 cases of greeks taking back brit homes and over 100 in process and will get worse for you all, I suggest you see your lawyer to seek advice.I wanted to respond but decided I would go elsewhere and complain about her justification to air her manner whilst in a working environment.Any thoughts on her what I call SERVERE point of view



Turtle


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Enter Mr Pike ?



lisa201168



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Sorry SEVERE.....not SERVERE....still having a wine to get over the horrible confrontation...



cronos


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Lisa....I'm confused,

Are you saying that this was the first time you were aware that there may be a problem in NC with properties built on GC title land ??



li n lee


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26/06/2009 00:37

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no she is fully aware merley airing the point that the uk is now fully aware of the issues in trnc what with tainted documentaries and unwanted media coverage



lisa201168



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I am fully aware having been to NC for the last 4 years. I just want to share this experience which was not that pleasant in the UK. Seems its spread widely. Not something I want to encounter frequently.



cronos


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I'm sorry....now I understand....you were making the point that the problem is now more widely known about in the UK.

Hopefully the wider publicity will counter the general ignorance in the UK about the Cyprus problem.

I'm convinced that the majority of UK citizens still think that Cyprus is a Greek Island !



Tiggy


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PIKEY......you are on...........cypwhinge, can you please cue Pikey.



lisa201168



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Exactly my point cronos. sorry if i wasnt clear.

I dont appreciate what I went through but need to know there is some kind of backing in the UK because it seems that its going to be needed and all the brits that have bought as hol homes or living in NC need to stand together in the UK by way of a uniform response which at that point I didnt have and feel very strongly that we should have. any takers.? or is there already that I am unknown to that I can join. I am willing to fight here in the UK.



Turtle


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Lisa, most of the people that make comments on NC are generally not well up on the situation and have very little knowledge about NC.



My advice would be to sit them down and just briefly give them a few facts and truths and a little history of 1955 - 1974 and plant that little seed that makes them open their mind a little and you will be amazed that they come back and want to know more.



madturk


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had similar chat with a guy i met, said he was off to cyprus, i said north or south .

paphos he said. i go to the north i said.

your mad ,all land in the north is greek and you will lose your land.

the army in the north are nasty he had been told.

soon stopped him gloating ,with some home truths,

best one was have you got your title deeds to your villa in paphos yet. no he said and walked off.time people new the full facts



lisa201168



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Turtle, thx, didnt want to bother with her but take your point. Down here in Hinckley, not far from you, it was a surprise to me thats all. I guess dont expect it on your doorstep. Aware for the future. I think there are so many stories but I enjoy my villa and will continue to do so and not be put off.

My sister bought just outsdie Paphos and two years later still without electricity and water and a builder who has smashed their windows, stolen property, he is due for prison and their house was never passed to be built so they are now moving from their corrupt laywer in the south to a lawyer in London. I've never had an issue from build to end. Explain that one. Cheers. Do you own in NC.



lisa201168



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madturk, read the post above re: sister....sums up your comments. thx and its cost them over £40k in fees so far!!!



andre 514


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the boss at my barber shop is a charmimg lady of greek cypriot descent:

preferring to keep my ears attached to my head I tend not too say anything about nc,

especially when having a razor cut



don't want to prejudge and I certainly don't think we should feel guilty it is not our dispute

but you may expect these sort of comments from the gang of four

mark not included: he ploughs an individual furrow and will tell me my video's connected wrong



cypwhine: one day when cyprus is free you will be able to talk with who you like and I can take you there pikey: scumbags, send the foreigners packing, you'll all cop it, I see two men approaching in white coats

harry roberts: I'm an ordinary bloke living 47 years in larnaca with not an axe to grind in my whole body

Ilovekibrismorethanyoulot but I am very concerned about car park attendants on the job, bah humbug



newlad



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Lisa,

Bless you,trust me things will be fine,

Paul.



lisa201168



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Am feeling an uplift from your support guys! but seriously if anything needs doing in UK, count on me.



newlad



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Lisa,

There are lots of things going on behind the scenes,chill out darl things will work out by the end of 2009,

Paul



lisa201168



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newlad, i'll remember your comments despite downing the wine in blighty right now counting down till August till back in NC! cheers to you.



newlad



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Lisa,

Coming out in Sept stay loose,

Paul.



Turtle


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LG, if you reverse everything you have just wrote you may be somewhere near the truth.



Take the bag off you head .....you may see the reality



lisa201168



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LG, I read your passionate post, points noted. But seems you are on here to be rude to me. Read my post above about the corrupt south side involving my sister. You might stop your verbal. No building permission as land didnt belong and property destroyed! She has videoed ready for TV documetary along with the 4 other victimised purchasers.

I would prefer to be called otherwise but in your eyes seek to call me carpetbagger which I find offensive. You are allowed your personal opinion. Seemingly, you are not enjoying the late life you should be by being on this site.



Stubs


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Lisa



Having read your original post how would you feel in this womans position?



There is no doubt that there have been some horrible things happened on both sides but none of the wrongs make them the rights of today.



Building problems seems to be an issue all over the med given what has happened in Spain, the south and the north of Cyprus. Is it the case that us brits are too trusting or do we leave our brains at the airports?



waddo


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LG,

As a snivel servant you have access to better information regarding the mid 50's through to the mid 70's so you should understand the situation quite well. Also as a snivel servant you are under obligation to keep your personal ideas to yourself. Therefore I do not think that you do work for the Civil Service at all and simply spout your own brand of ideas in the hopes it will put people off living/working in the TRNC. Greeks have no historical claim to this Island so why should they simply own it because they were willing to kill off the resident population?



andre 514


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26/06/2009 09:00

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lg,



from a particular viewpoint I see the sense of your arguments

but within your frustrated reply there are several things I would like to query



firstly carpetbaggers refers to the prime movers in an operation not innocent parties

assuming your phrase is true about the two communities not being able to "get on",

if a person believes cyprus cannot ever be banged to together again as one state,

putting some hapless pensioners out of their home won't restore anyone's loss at all



but it is of course quite possible for different people to own the same property:

the former gc claimant has an "internationaly recognised" deed paper regarding some scrubland,

the family now living there built a house with locally-accepted but disputed ownership rights:

whom do you think could actually collect payment by selling their "ownership"?



psst- wanna buy a place with "undisputed" ownership?

try one of the cyprus builders who mortgaged your flat, no dispute, he still owns the place!



nurseawful



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Lisa

I take it this lady was a Doctor if so and you felt threatened by what she said you can complain to the General Medical Council about her conduct.



Troodo


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Damn these TC’s, they should have all lined up to be shot instead of fighting for survival.



Troodo.



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Lg,

Yes their are crooks and thieves wherever you go. Their are also people on forums like you who post offensive comments and try to wind people up. But in a way i thank-you for your comments and scaremongering tactics because it allows me to buy more apartments on the cheap. Long live the TRNC............



Blackpoolfan


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Cypwine is logged on, 11.30 gmt what pearls of wisdom i wonder are about to come our way? An ideal thread for captain pugwash....................



christ1979


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re: message 29



its a crying shame people like you are happy to buy on the "cheap" as you put it & contribute to someone elses missery. Saying that fingers crossed you may end up getting a knock on your door in the UK in the near future to take your property here from you & maybe just maybe sell it on the "cheap"!



begonia


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Whatever post this person holds at the clinic you should report her to the Manager or whatever. It simply

is totally unprofessional behaviour. She is employed to serve you not harrass you however strong her opinions.

Good Luck !



Tiggy


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26/06/2009 14:05

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The cyprus-forum "simple servants club" seems to be gearing up for another afternoon of anti TRNC propoganda on this forum.....thank f*c@ they are not able to play loud japanese music down the connection....Tokyo Rose aka as cypwhinge would be in her element.........awaiting the arrival of ....ILK, wrote: !!!



chick


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I am puzzled to why this tread was started, everyone knows the history and politics of the situation so why keep dragging it up???????????????



Blackpoolfan


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christ1979

Another new member or alias???

Have you been drinking because i don't understand the grammar of your post? I will try to explain so you can understand. I buy property yes to rent out and to holiday in. I pay my taxes and invest my hard earned money within the TRNC therefore contributing to it's economy. My property in the uk is not in my name so i will be ok thank-you, as for the TRNC i presume the Greeks will knock on my door and ask for my keys as the field belongs to them. I say bring it on.............



Blackpoolfan


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Tiggy message 33

No i think cypswine would be dressed in his sailor suit looking like a rent boy off the Love Boat, singing im forever blowing "Bubbles"......................



redtom


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Lost geezer I personally dont think you have any knowledge whatsoever about the cyprus problem. If you were as you should want us to believe that your a civil servant . Isnt it a wonder the UK has so many problems. When ill educated Buffoons like yourself have a say in policy making. Tommy



waddo


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This looks like just another attack of the so called "Teachers" and Lecturers" along with the GC "Professor's" who have no students and therefore nothing better to do with their time on a Friday.



Go open a fish and chip shop somewhere - its what you lot are good at after all. In fact go open another one in the UK, 90% of them are owned and staffed by people who were thrown out of there ancestral Limassol homes after all - even through they are still only 30 years old.



I give up, you were found out before you could murder everyone you had forced into isolation, you lost - get behind it and get on with life.



AlsancakJack



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Lostgeezer



Message 28:

'With regard to property titles in the ROC, there are crooks in all parts of the world. In the ROC there is a legal system to gain redress,'



You really are lost aren't you. Yep that 'legal system' you talk about of course has benefited 100's if not 1000's of non GC's to get their title deeds (not!). Tell me about the falsification/alteration of TC owned title deeds held by the ROC land registry and how that will be addressed by your so called 'legal system'.



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Dear AJ,



re 39



We still await the proof of this "falsification/alteration of TC owned title deeds held by the ROC land registry" and again I ask - WHY is this only news, now? - you didn't revert last time, when asked..





Once again.. the RoC must hang their heads in shame re the deeds fiasco - and once again - I'd point you to the UK and Commonwealth Web site - search under Cyprus - there is a warning about buying in Cyprus - it has been there for years ...



It's not like folk weren't warned...



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Andre said



harry roberts: I'm an ordinary bloke living 47 years in larnaca with not an axe to grind in my whole body





Wrong oh so completey wrong get your facts right please



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m&m's



Does the warning cover both North & South Cyprus?



AlsancakJack



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Mark

I have seen the evidence from two TC families that were displaced from Paphos and there is a group of twenty plus TC former Paphos land owners (growing all the time) that are awaiting legal direction from their legal team.

You have to be careful who you employ in the ROC Land Registry office!



Stubs


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AJ



Out of interest why are they awaiting legal direction? There already is procedures in place in the south for displaced TC's.



This is where the land issue potentially gets even messier. If a TC has been given GC land in the north and subsequently sold it, either totally or in part, would they really have the right to claim back their land in the south?



mmmmmm



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Dear ROBnJo



re msg 42



>>The process of buying property either in the north or south of the island is similar to that in the UK and most developed countries, yet there are many pitfalls for the unwary, particularly if you are buying off plan.<<



http://ukincyprus.fco.gov.uk/en/help-for-british-nationals/living-in-cyprus/buying-property



It's been there a LONG time - covering all of Cyprus



re msg 43



AJ



Thanks for responding - NOW - I appreciate why you couldn't say more.. I await to see the fall out...



IF it is proven that their has been shenanigans the RoC will lose all "cred" re LR filings..and officials involved should go to prison



harryroberts


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Whatever post this person holds at the clinic you should report her to the Manager or whatever. It simply



is totally unprofessional behaviour. She is employed to serve you not harrass you however strong her opinions.



Good Luck !



what did she do wrong apart from tell the truth and advise lisa201168 to see a laywer sounds like advice to me.

i cannot understand what was so offensive.



madturk


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lost geezer, the tcs have done nothing wrong .they are victims ,made to suffer. turkey intervened to save the tcs, its them who have embargos against them . why not turkey.

so if it means selling a bit of land to boost the encomny ,why not.

let greece ,turkey and the eu sort compo.

i vote lisa for ous u.k ambassitor



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madturk wrote : "so if it means selling a bit of land to boost the encomny ,why not."



Your attitude sums up how Brit buyers have been shafted by uncaring Turks flogging them Greek property.



madturk


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of course the bubble and squeaks have left all turkish land in the south untouched. are they cutting the grass and painting the windows to make them look nice for when the tcs come home.



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Well me Duck tek na notice .

I had some barmy GC ranting about Tony Blair how he had sold the GC's down the river when trying to book a day trip to NC a few years ago .The next year he was selling the trip to NC what some people will do for money.

As to HR fancy naming yourself after a notorious police murder Andrew!!



andre 514


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ilk use your loaf, get your hampsteads into something more useful, (or are you mutt and jeff?)

by taking this frog and toad, and starting a bull and cow, you are driving us all lakes of kilarney

yes the north is cream crackered, seas full of richard the thirds, rubbish making a pen-and-ink

but nothing some tourist bread and honey or a few oxford scholars couldn't fix...

there will be no daisy roots march in from the south, or eu and I will be very long brown bread



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Stubs

Ref message 44.



'Out of interest why are they awaiting legal direction? There already is procedures in place in the south for displaced TC's.'



I tell you what, how about you suggesting that directly to them and see what answer you get.



begonia


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Harry Roberts.............Would you like to visit a health professional and listen to their political opinions when you are there to seek medical help ?



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