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cooper


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Here we go again folk !!



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Just like that! This is just to keep it above 14



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As most of you know Sev and Tek (phase1 blockE1 ) sadly lost there youngest son in a car accident in Cyprus on the 3 Sept.



As well as the appartment, they were building a luxurious villa in cyprus for their retirement. We spoke to them yesterday and at present want it known that they would like to sell both properties as they have mixed feelongs about Cyprus at present. The villa is almost complete with the best fittings money can buy. No expense has been spared and is located on the way to the Accupolco.(just outside work to complete)



If anyone wants to know more please contact me on L.Fine@SKY.COM and I will put you in contact with them



thanks



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our hearts go out to Sev & Tek, lovely people, we are thinking of them at this sad time Eve & Ron xx



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Jean and I don't know Sev and Tek but as parents we can imagine what a terrible tragedy they have experienced.

Please pass on our condolences if any of you speak with them.

Steve and Jean



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I know Sev & Tek, they are my neighbours. What a dreadful loss! My heart goes out to them. I am so sorry.



I don't know what to say.



Lem



ebbern5


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It seems that the road in phase 1 has been repaired



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cant be bad 2 years down the line ...what a result



cooper


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Who said you were on the road to nowhere )



kavenkoy


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more like the road to hell ,lol



now theres a song



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change of subject i know,just got back to the uk,had a great week at phase 2 with my father.About the pergola folks!i really dont think you should get Ilker to put this in,the pool is shaded for most of the morning until the sun gets higher,the pool area then is shaded again about 4pm onwards,the only part that gets the sun virtually all day is where the pergola is gonna be.The area for sunbeds around the pool isnt that wide as you know,its virtually only as wide as a sunbed from the railings to the edge of the pool.Its fine at the moment because the site is half empty,but when full in a year or two there may not be enough room for all the individual sunbeds from the apts,then they'l be in the shade in the morning and late afternoon! the only other place that would be available is where the pergola is,that'll be shaded too! If you dont have a balcony with evening sun you will kiss the sun goodbye for the day about 4.30pm,balcony shaded,pool shaded,pergola no sun there either!thoughts?



Hammers


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I tend to agree with sporty, we were out in august, too many late nights prevented us from seeing much of the morning sun!! However you do loose the sun around the pool between 4 - 6pm depending on which side of the pool you were sitting, it drops behind the buildings. The area which keeps the sun the longest is where the pergola is planned to go. This is not too bad in the summer months but you will welcome the sun for as long as possible in the spring and autumn.

I don't think we need a solid roof like in phase one, but it does need something to finish it off. The communal seating suggested by niftyduo is a nice idea as some people do like a quieter area away from the pool. I thought of perhaps a lighter wooden structure with timber uprights around the edge of the circle like in phase one, but instead of the solid roof maybe timber struts coming into the centre, which are higher in the middle to create a roof effect. Then some sections could have fabric weaving to create shade.



gemma


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Hi Sporty. Glad you enjoyed your days sunbathing. Can I just point out that if you had been here in June-July-August NO Way would you have been able to Lay ANYWHERE round that pool as the temp is in the upper 40"s and into the 50"s some days.

I swam at 7am in full sun and again at 5pm in full sun. Mid-day ( for about 3 hours ) the poolside was deserted as the heat was impossible. There was no-where to hide without going indoors.

The season is fast coming to a close now and getting shorter by the day. Hence the sun moving quickly and lots of shade.

My Vote remains with the orig: plan. Bring on the Pergola please IKER.



GEMMA



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cont from message 12



Some people have the fabric weaving on their roof pergola's and it looks really nice. This way some areas would have shade and some could be left in the sun, this might suit everyone. I don't know if this sort of structure can be made, but it's just a suggestion.



gemma


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Just been reading some back issues on the pergola again.

Some one suggested Pot Plants ! whos going to water them several times a day in high summer.

Lots of picnic tables and bbq with umbrellas. Who is going to clean all this up?



Oh we will you all say. Sorry folks -- it dont work like that.



I picked a black bin liner of rubbish up a couple of weeks ago. And the sad thing is ---no one noticed the rubbish had gone !!!!



Mind you a couple of gnomes would be nice. JOKE folks ***JOKE



cooper


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You might be joking gemma but i think this would look quite fitting around the pool - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/21/article-1172293-048D9855000005DC-275_468x651.jpg



Cooper



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you will find plenty of gnomes sitting in government offices for sure

kav



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If I remember, we pay a management company.... MEPS maybe, who do all our site maintenance including cleaning. I applaud your effort Gemma and thank you for it but if MEPS are not doing their job we should ask for a refund. I believe Bahar is back with us about the end of September.



stickle


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Must agree with gemma. The heat in summer is fierce and there is a need for shade. anyone watching young children in the pool at this time would require the shade. The original plan and contract is what we signed up for and this included the pergola. The sun and the wind would weather the cloth and it would soon deteriorate. Treatment here would be expensive for the cloth. we must also remember the wind here is strong and gusts can be fierce. damage could easily be done to the material. Anything around the pool like plants, tables etc can lead to stains on the pool surrounds. Already done in some areas with spilt sun tan lotion. A need to be vigilant as not everyone is as careful as those on the forum.



stickle


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Nifty, Meps are doing their job. However, if the mess is from the communal area we have the resposibility not to abuse it. Cigarette ends around the pool and abandoned other goods are not a maintainence company responsibility: who are contracted for a weekly clean. We have a clear specification on what they will do. There is a clear responsibilty for all of us to avoid litter and ensure that high standards are maintained to simply say it is the responsibility of MEPS is to avoid the real issue.



woodies


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Have to agree with Gemma and Stickle,we are in phase three but we will have the same problems,the point about woven fabric is valid,it is surprising how dirty it gets in a few weeks and when we visited in August/Sept it was very windy at times,we can only imagine what it is like in winter so we only put ours up when we visit. A solid structure is what we were promised and that is what should be installed.

Are there any more phase three owners out there and if so have you been in the pool yet,it was due to open three days after we left, our timeing was always poor.



Hammers


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Good point about the wind damage to the cloth, i just thought that it was a suitable material as people have used it on their roof pergola's. It was only a suggestion, as it seems that some people want shade and others prefer the sun. I know that when we stayed on phase one, their pergola was only used for storage of chairs and sun loungers and was quite dark to sit under with the solid roof. But i do think that most of us agree it definitely needs some sort of sructure to finish it off. Does anyone know what our pergola is ment to look like? I heard that it was going to be a lighter structure than in phase one, so ours might not create solid shade anyway, just a thought!!



High Priest


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22/09/2009 20:27

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Hi,



I think first + foremost Ilker should be asked if he is willing to finish the area. It doesn't bode well with me that it is still like it is 18 months down the line. If he is, can we see the plan + what is he proposing, if we don't want a pergola what are our options for the same cost. Then at least we have something to work with.

Pots, eating/drinking areas are definitely a no. Who is going to water, who's going to clear the mess. We need something with no maintenance at all.



Should any new planting or pots be provided I think Block E should be first in line. This block was left off the plan when the communal areas were planned.



Possibly a smaller pergola than phase 1 would suit all. This could be off-set, leaving a sunny area for sun lovers whilst providing shade in hot months. However to divert from the original plan will probably result in us having nothing at all - apart from wires and a waste pipe, of course.



sporty


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its certainly a difficult one isnt it,i would definately be against the whole area taken up by a pergola,but as somebody suggested maybe 50/50,with a smaller shaded area leaving some of the area open for sunbeds,i do see the point of the heat in june,july,august but their are 9 more months in the year where you'd be glad of as much sun in that area as possible,i'm hoping to be out for another couple of weeks in oct,its such a great place to be.!!



johnny p


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all we want is ilker to finish the job we have no say in it anyway .



niftyduo


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I'm glad the discussion has sparked off again. It is good to get as many opinions as possible and maybe we will end up with a good compromise. For me a phase 1 pergola is the very bottom of the list but the are does need finishing off. As Gemma pointed out, we need something suitable for all seasons . Keep the ideas coming guys



sporty


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ok,how about this, a shower by the pool?aswell/instead of?Pool rules-shower before entering the pool,anybody been back to their apt yet,to have a shower and get rid of lotions each time they go for a swim?then who'll pay for the water used etc etc,i dont think it'll ever be perfect so i'm just going to make the most of what time we get there.



cooper


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After making contact with all the residents it has been decided that we will have this installed to keep both adults & kids alike amused - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvV9bLgWpKo&feature=related the music is on 24/7 so you can sing along whenever you wish )



sporty


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have to hand it to you cooper,thats really funny!!



niftyduo


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How about a daily flash mob to entertain like this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EYAUazLI9k&annotation_id=annotation_72265&feature=iv



cooper


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Cheers sporty but i cant take all the credit for that, it was Gemma's idea.



Very good nifty, now that would be amusing.



Cooper



niftyduo


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niftyduo are back on site tomorrow looking forward to breakfast in the morning sun and catching up with all our friends and neighbours



High Priest


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Hi All,



Is anyone aware of any further developments on Kav 2 re previously discussed things, eg Pergola (or not) gate, walls + dare I say deeds. Not heard much for a while ! Will be there soon and can't wait



HP.



Struben


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Sorry, HP, absolutely nothing!!! Its almost as if we no longer exist. Kavanlar obviously feel that they do not have to explain anything to us - we only bought their development. Kept a number of people employed during the whole process of the building.



As for answering e-mails regarding the outstanding issues - also nothing.



Quite honestly at a loss what to do now.



Have a safe flight over - weather still great.



High Priest


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We will have to get a representation from Kav 2 down to the office on a Sat. morning when Ilker is normally in + put our probs. directly to him.



HP.



liz w



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they have been clearing the builders huts this week, now they are breaking up the concrete bases and carting them away ,somewhere!!! they also disturbed a wasps nest in the wall yesterday and they are back this morning still tidying away all the rubbish, so at least things are moving on phase 4.



Liz



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Hi There

Anybody any idea when Phase 5 will be complete and ready to move in ???



Jim



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jimmyboy (37)



i went around 4 and 5 last for a nosey .

5 was further on than 4 ,with kitchens etc in and walls painted .



no bathrooms in some though yet ,there was just one guy on site as it was early evening and he was just glossing all the balcony railings .



pool looked good,the road areas are in but not tarmaced over yet .....could be 3 years ,lol



kav



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Ok Kav thanks for the info



I will be out in 3 weeks and was told they should be ready



so i can only hope for 2010!!!



Jim



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39 ...yes it will most certainly be ready by then ,4 promised for december now i believe ?



incidentally the plot thats cleared infront of 5 is that to be built on ? was asking last week and some say yes ,some say no .



kav



liz w



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Getting back to the Pergola topic!!



When we left last night we had a quick bite at the Pizza King, they have the same sort of thing thats on the roofs ! would that not be a good idea with sail cloth that would be removable in the winter or Autumn when people want to catch all the rays that they can ? just a thought.



Liz x

p.s.



we all had a lovely time, it was great just chilling out and meeting friend in and around the pool.



sporty


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i'm over again in 2 wks time for a fortnight~cant wait!!



Hammers


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Hi liz

I did suggest the trellis with weaving idea in message 12 & 14, but was told that the wind would damage it and it would not look very nice for long. Didn't think about it being taken down during wintertime. Think we need to find out what kavanlars plans are and what sort of sructure they have planned anyway!!



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Phase 4 people (and I suspect there are not many) will be glad to know there is almost frightening activity on their site. Yes, workman have been spotted and more than one! As Liz mentioned, the builders huts and the concrete base has been entirely removed and now the sewers and drains are going in at a fair pace. The swimming pool is tiled inside and they are busy tiling the outer surround. Internally, the electricians are are fiting plug tops and lights sockets etc. Most but not all the blocks have windows and all have the wrought iron balcony rails. Of course, there is not a workman in sight on phase 5 even though they are near to completion.



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I have been watching the messaging on here and it does seem that Ilker/ Kavanlar is OK while money is coming in, in the way of stage payments. But once they stop, they are not interested any more. No snagging gets done and any problems that become noticed once the main work has been done are totally ignored.

My partner Jean works for a builder here in UK, as a Sales Negotiator. She feels that one thing builders, like many companies, do not like is bad publicity. If that is true in TRNC then maybe a suggestion to Ilker that if our problems and out dissatisfaction are not addressed very quickly, then we may have to contact the newspapers

( Cyprus Today?) to let more people know what we are having to put up with! I know that many of us have tried in vain get Ilker to cooperate but all we get are snubs, or promises that never get fulfilled.

Does anyone have a major problem or fear with this?

If not, then I will email Ilker and Hulya to let them know what we intend to do.

Steve n



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blimey thats a bit harsh,i would be more concerned if the few things were left after the site and all phases have been finished and they have left the site completely,i for one wouldnt want to be a part of this strategy,it may backfire on you because if you name and shame they may live up to your expectations!You would also find it difficult to approach Kavanlar on any future issues that may arise with the site,i can only speak for myself of course,but i'm happy with my apt and i'm happy with the site and also i'm not too bothered about the pergola now either. Everyone may have a different opinion but i dont want to be a part of it.



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Deeds come to mind. I think Kavanlar will be difficult when + if they ever happen if we go to such lengths at this moment in time. To my knowledge I don.t think anyone has recently asked Ilker about finishing off the site.

It hasn.t been reported on here. I still think the best way forward is for a few of us to visit the office, be very reasonable about it + ask for dates from the man. Last time I asked him in July he said all would be done ie pergola, gate, walls after phase 3 is complete. I personally don.t know where they are with phase 3. If it is complete I think we are in a good place to demand action. We are out 14 Oct. so lets get together then.



HP



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phase 3 is up and running they even have water in the pool, all done very quickly! It looks good .



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I take all your comments, I was simply suggesting a possible route. I understand that it could cause more problems.

If anyone is considering meeting with Ilker or Hulya soon, I will be over 24th - 31st October, so count me in.

Steve



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We will also be over on the 24th and would be willing to be part of a delegation to speak to ilker regarding completion of the site.



Stuart



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Great,



We are there 14 - 26 Oct so if nothing has happened when you arrive we will go + see them.



HP.



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Reported some damp and damage to Ilker Tuesday. Repair completed today. Perhaps, it may be that some messages are not forwarded. Doubt if direct confrontation will work



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relax you guys, everything is getting done. The world is a different place now and North Cyprus is not is not immune from the recession. Kavanlar is probably prioritising and making sure that the apartments that people are waiting for are making progress. Non-essentials are on the back burner but everything will be done in time. There is plenty going on, snagging is still being done so all that is required is patience but no delegations, it will get us nowhere.



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Hi all

Things are different in northern cyprus and there is no rush to do anything, but saying that it would be lovely to get our complex up to the standard that we think it should be by now. i am over on the 15th of october for about three weeks and looking forward to having a drink with you all, and hopefully a BBQ around the pool i think it would be a good idea to invite ilka to the BBQ as i am sure he would like to see how proud the community is on the kavanlar development.

Marine and Jeff thanks for all you have done whilst we were away and we will speak soon John and Karrie



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Any update on Phase 5 completion???



Jim



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It is very close to completion, kitchen units etc fitted, all blocks have been painted externally and sanitary fiitings have been ordered. Apart from water tanks and meter cupboards, there is little left to do so it could be finished this year, you never know.



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Ok Nifty thanks for the update



Jim



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I emailed Ilker and Hulya about 4 times recently to ask for repairs to be done, mainly the water pump that has not been working for a while. I had no replies until yesterday! Hulya said he had instructed the plumber to sort out all the water problems. Fingers crossed. Jean is out there tomorrow with her daughter and I will come out next Saturday. Hope you are all well and that the weather is still good.

Steve and Jean,

Apt 6, Block E, Phase 2.



cooper


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We said let there be LIGHT and there was LIGHT



NO MORE TORCHES !!! even the dustbin area is lit up.



http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo235/cooper_06/lettherebelight002.jpg



Photo kindly taken by Gemma



Thanks Gemma

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Thats good i wont need to use my balcony lights in the evenings! The dustbin man.lol



liz w



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thank god, cause it was very dark in our corner!!!



cooper


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Its the electrician you want to be thanking liz god had nowt to do with it



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Sorry Liz, it is still dark in your corner! That one didn't light up.



Good picture Mr Cooper, just like you.



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Hello Al,

while I was over in October, I went to see Ilker to thank him for sorting out our water pump and the leaks on the roof tank and the en suite sink.

While there I asked him when the kocans might be ready. he said they were being written, but that we had to pay 1000 towards the transformer!. I explained that it was not in my contract to pay that money and that i was not willing to pay it. Ilker said he would not hand over the deeds until I had paid it.

I have since contacted my advocate, Naomi Mehmet, who said that I am under no obligation to pay the 1000, and could, if I chose, send solicitors letters to Ilker, or let the courts decide which, as we know, takes forever and can costs thousands more.

Has anyone else been pressured like this recently? If so what have you done about it or what should we all do about the situation?

Steve



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We were there in October and our solicitor phoned Ilker whilst we were in her office, He said he paid 160,000

for total outlay of transformer includind 60,000 for cabling and unless he recoups the money he is in the deep mire, as this sum was not accounted for.



We reluctantly paid including about 700.00for transfer fees for government and solicitor but uptill today we have received no deeds. (December 09)



We are in phase 1



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Does everyone have to pay the 1000 fee for this transformer or is it just the Brits?



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Do you seriously want an answer to that qustion Lem?



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Has anyone either on phase 1 or 2 received their Title Deeds yet?



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Hi Stusparks, i put the question of the issue of title deeds forward in a recent question & answer service given by Naomi Mehmet, her reply can be seen in this link, question number 7 - http://www.living-in-northern-cyprus.com/review/2009/12/legal-advice-3/



Cooper



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Thanks for the info cooper. Looks like we have a long wait.



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Prior to deed exchange and the paying of 1,000 quid should we not be insisting that Kavanlar finish off our site (phase 2) ie. pergola or at least finish off the pool area, gated entrance, building of wall between phase 2 + 4/5, underpinning walls, painting pool railings + getting all lights working. Because once deed exchange has been done it will all be our responsibility. Just a thought.

HP.



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message 71.



once you exchange you have no chance ...infact you probably got no chance now as they dont want to know .



we have waited 18monts to get small tarmac area redone ,now its been dont only because they wanted their extra 1k extortion electricity money,

that was a cock up 12foot patch job,the fact we have no pool lighs for a year...damp and flakey painting on the base of each block....or a supporting wall falling down doesnt bother them now.



kav



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HAPPY NEW YEAR! to everyone.



Hoping that 2010 brings title deeds, repairs, pergolas, etc etc.



well we can dream can't we! LOL

Steve and Jean



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Hi All



has everybody recieved email from meps regarding payments of maintenance and float money ?



in defence of meps, whom i think are doing a very good job looking after our sites and investments they cant provide good service for free.

for what ever reason lets all make a effort to get payments to them on time or in advance.

when we agreed to buy ,we agreed to pay maintenance charges ......and if anybody doesnt now like that they should sell and move on.

harsh but true.



send money out with friends or visits or bank transfer



kav



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unfortunately this happens on most complexes, it happened to us, some people NEVER pay! and what can you do! also some sell and leave without paying arrears! this is one reason we sold and left our complex. It goes against the grain, when the non payers are splashing away in the pool with their families and friends. Meaning the payers of course end up paying MORE!



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difference with us is none payers wont splash around in pool whilst im on site everon .....we have one tool that thinks he doesnt have to pay ,i aint met him after 2 years he hides away like a rat in a hole .....would deal with it though if and when we meet up



kav



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yes kav, I know who you mean, I've seen him!!!!!!!!!!! he still benefits from lighting, cleaning, dustbins etc, makes your blood boil doesn't it x



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not guilty,i paid in advance!Cant wait to get over there soon and use the place.



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same as me sporty cant wait to get back out

,bloody cold in uk at moment and should have stayed for extra week in cyp...hard to imagine last weeks moan was to a waiter down the harbour at 3am to put an extra log on the fire lol.



everon im sure your friends will still be enjoying their stay in moscow ,i mean lancashire ...chat soon



kav



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kav, they cant wait to get back 'home' I keep telling them how lovely and warm it is here, oh well, just going to have lunch on the patio (again) have a nice day x



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Kavenkoy



If they don't pay, when they sell why can't the overdue payment be taken out of their sale proceeds by solicitor ( with interest !)



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Agree with you Kav, i'm like Sporty and most others and pay in advance although due to a administrative error the Email i received had me down as owing maintenance money but i have my receipt so once i contacted Meps they amended their records immediately.



Cooper



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dutty 81



i think thats the overall plan and what they should do .i know ilker has no payments no deeds etc etc .



the tool we have thinks because he doesnt want to sell at this time then he above "the law" and perhaps better than the rest ......everydog has its day and all that .



we dont have any major issues on1 ,but we cant expect meps to run efficiently if money from the owners isnt coming in ,after all they are employed by us .



kav



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I have no idea whom Kavenkoy is referring to as a 'non payer of management fees' but I certainly know one person on the Kavanlar development who is not paying. The reason for this is between the apartment owner and Kavanlar and, I would suggest, is nobody else's business. In this case, there is a very good reason for non-payment. If you want to take up this kind of matter on an open forum, then name the person that you have in mind - what are you afraid of if you are in full possession of the facts - or perhaps you aren't? What point is there in referring to somebody as a 'tool' who hides in a 'rat hole'? Come, come my dear, don't be shy!



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I agree Kav



I think what numpties like this don't realise is that on a complex and managed estates everyone has to work as a team and there is no 'I' in team. I am sure he will come knocking on your door for some help at some point in the future



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message to 84

Hi Keith

For your information the residents of Kavenkoy phase 1 have an ongoing Maintenance contract with MEPS and NOT with Kavanlar Construction. Therefore any ongoing dispute you have with Kavanlar is I agree nobody else's business. However, non payment of Phase 1 community fees is the indeed the business of every owner on Phase 1, surely there can be no dispute about that? Perhaps Kavenkoy is a Gentleman who does not wish to get into a slanging match on the forum but still pays his dues! Can I suggest you perhaps have a meeting with the other residents.



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dearest nostradamus



my email is there for you to communicate directly and in private with myself .i will gladly swap long stories ,chats and telephone numbers .

if you are a genuine owner or "friend to owner" and you wish to build a friendship and community great ,lets chat .



if you want to treat me as a fool that will pay bills for others then dont .im straight talking and kind of easy to get on with .....but nobodys mug



kav



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These Pictures have been kindly taken by Gemma showing Phase 2's Pagoda -



http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo235/cooper_06/finished003.jpg



http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo235/cooper_06/finished002.jpg



Thanks Gemma



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well,i for one am really glad its small!Dont know what others think,i just felt with a big one like in phase 1,we would be cramped for places for sunbeds by the pool when the site is busy. I'd have been happy for it not to be there,we could always have another group barbie again and catch it on fire like johns melted table,if we dont like it. lol, oh seeing those photos makes me want to book a flight and get out there again!



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Dont get too exited folks---- this is probable the cafe bar that we all voted NOT to have. They took great pains to make sure the electric and water pipes were somewhere in the middle !!!!



Or it could be -- as we said last year ' The Magic Roundabout '



Gemma



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Gemma, it is an Aviary - I have already seen photos of the birds that Nifty Duo will be bringing over!!! Sorry I cannot show them on the Forum





If I am wrong, I think it will be great for the Coffee Bar, and I vote you make all the goodies to eat. I know your reputation for cooking, mind I think we have a few good ladies in the Complex, who just might help!!!!



Marlene



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Straight from the horses mouth as they say-



Its---- wait for it ------- THE PERGOLA------- in its finished state.



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well guys that pergola looks good .



gemma you say "finished state" surely not quite finished ,does it have the roof weaving to go on ?



think its a fair compromise between sunbed space and shade,and i think it looks good



kav



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Just got to have the central pipes cut off, the railings placed on our dividing walls, a secure gate, pool railings painted, lights working and we may have a finished complex. But is that just wishfull thinking.



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Hello everyone! I didn't realise that the forum was back up and running.

Hope everyone is well. We are over 27th March for 10 days.Hope thec weather is better there than it is over here.

Steve and Jean



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Hi Kav



The message I got was--- No roof------ If a roof was put on the Belediye would make us take it all down !!!





Cant see the point of a pergola without a roof but then again I am one of those who wants a choice of whether to fry or chill in July and Aug.



Gemma



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I think we should float in the pool as a duck house and claim expenses



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I can't see the point in this pergola at the side of a pool, it should be in a garden with plants growing up around it, it would give it a bit of character at the moment it wouldn't do anything for me with or without a roof, it's not big enough to get sunbeds under it for shade anyway.



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could we turn it into an ice-cream parlour?



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Gemma, are you serious about the Pergola - is this the finished product?



Well, I suppose if this is the case, we can always have it removed, if it serves no purpose.



I think the Big Boss of Kavanlar is telling Porkie Pies!!



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Everything gets smaller on each phase, I can't wait to see phase V pergola,



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phase5 pergola is a small umberella ,but you have to take it in turns holding up for the week



kav



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They could always employ Mary Poppins )



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Guess what - Phase 2's Pergola is on the way to completion, watch this space, we will get our resident Photographer to take photos in a few days - Marion makes a good job of it.



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